Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why they would make 7th and 10th graders move to a new school if their inbounds school change. They should have just 6th and 9th graders implement it in the first school, so that 7th and 10th graders do not have to move to a new school, which is really disruptive.

Then they'd be opening Woodward and Crown with no one but ninth graders there. That's not efficient, and leaves a lot of unnecessary overcrowding.

It’s not just about efficiency. It’s about emotional toll on so many kids. We could be talking about thousands of kids here. They’re not just numbers.

Kids have been dealing with changing schools for decades. They are more resilient than we give them credit for.

Yeah other kids are resilient as long as it’s not impacting your kids.

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What changes does option 3 bring for you and the people you know?

I have yet to see a single person actually affected meaningfully by option 3 in favor of option 3. It’s all people who think they know what’s best for other people’s kids.

I’m affected positively by option 3. My kids (very very young not even in school yet) would go from Wheaton to WJ. And it’s not really that far from us either. But I know that’s selfish - it really does seem like a ridiculous option that negatively impacts so many others so I realize it will likely not happen like it is drawn up

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What changes does option 3 bring for you and the people you know?

I have yet to see a single person actually affected meaningfully by option 3 in favor of option 3. It’s all people who think they know what’s best for other people’s kids.

I’m affected positively by option 3. My kids (very very young not even in school yet) would go from Wheaton to WJ. And it’s not really that far from us either. But I know that’s selfish - it really does seem like a ridiculous option that negatively impacts so many others so I realize it will likely not happen like it is drawn up

Yeah. Our kids are in the part of SCES moved from Northwood to Blair so I would also like that.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe what makes the most sense is to create more low income housing in the west part of the county then the farms rates at those schools will increase and it will be balanced.

I live in west county and agree. Diversify neighborhoods through housing policy and send kids to schools that minimize commuting

Agreed. But so far there is a ton of pushback on this. So it's left to MCPS to do the work the county can't manage.

What? No. That’s not the role of the schools.

I’m more concerned about my kid being in a school with a high number of ESL students.

Well these choices impact the schools and the quality of education that students receive.

The most offensive thing about this thread is how people talk about low income kids (which we all know in this county are mainly Black and Latino but of course some are White and Asian), as though they are all the same. They are all disruptive, none of them want to learn, their families are all bad. The rich White and Asian (and some Latino) kids are well-behaved and come from good families. GMAFB.

Most low-income kids come from families that care about their kids' education. Most low-income kids want to learn. But they are disproportionately placed in schools with much higher percentages of kids that are disruptive, whose home circumstances prevent them from learning. And in these schools there are numerous kids that want and can do advanced classes, but the numbers aren't quite enough to have the variety of classes that are available in the wealthier schools. These are tangible ways that MCPS education is directly impacted by housing segregation. Not to mention, having less diversity at the wealthy schools is not great for those kids either. I attended one of those school many years ago. I very much wish it had been more diverse.

I don't know what the answer is. I very much sympathize with families (of all backgrounds) that do not want their kids to have a long bus ride to school. I would not want that for my kid. But let's stop pretending that segregation doesn't impact education or that low-income kids don't want to learn. That's a pretty offensive and blatantly incorrect assumption.

Fwiw I’ve read all pages of this thread and no one has stated anything like what you said.

I have definitely seen these attitudes in this thread and commonly expressed on DCUM

I’m sure you have seen them on DCUM but not on this thread. You’ve made up a straw man in order to make a moral judgement.

Also, we're now talking about economic segregation, not racial or ethnic (although admittedly there's a lot of history that driving correlations between the two). I'm all for diversity at our schools as long as they can afford the UMC incomes and housing costs that go with it. However, I don't want poor, disruptive kids with all kinds of behavioral challenges at my schools. I don't think any of us do. And if there are smart, driven less affluent kids who want to attend, then give them the opportunity to attend. Oh wait, the county already does that.

Thanks for sharing an example of exactly the attitude I was referring to.

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What changes does option 3 bring for you and the people you know?

I have yet to see a single person actually affected meaningfully by option 3 in favor of option 3. It’s all people who think they know what’s best for other people’s kids.

I’m affected positively by option 3. My kids (very very young not even in school yet) would go from Wheaton to WJ. And it’s not really that far from us either. But I know that’s selfish - it really does seem like a ridiculous option that negatively impacts so many others so I realize it will likely not happen like it is drawn up

Ours would go from Einstein to BCC, which I see as positive on one hand but negative in other ways. Getting to Bethesda from our house in traffic takes significantly longer than getting to Einstein, so managing afterschool activities, school events, and even meeting up with their friends would be a real headache. I also personally like being at a school where there we don't have to worry about "keeping up with the Joneses." It's a traadeoff but given the option we'd rather our kids attend a school in our neighborhood. If we had wanted our kids to attend Bethesda schools, we would have bought or rented an apartment in Bethesda rather than a house in SIlver Spring.

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Anonymous wrote:JFC, none of the 4 are real options - they are showing you an option that focus on each one of the 4 priorities in FAA. The options the Superintendent will chose from, to recommend to try BOE, haven't been shared yet.

What MCPS staff allowed the consultants to release these 4 options, when none of them are actual options anyone will be choosing from, and why MCPS staff and consultants are holding all these meetings, which is a huge waste of time and resources, is beyond me

So wait, non of these options are even reak? WTF is the point? When will the real options be presented? This is super dumb.

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Anonymous wrote:JFC, none of the 4 are real options - they are showing you an option that focus on each one of the 4 priorities in FAA. The options the Superintendent will chose from, to recommend to try BOE, haven't been shared yet.

What MCPS staff allowed the consultants to release these 4 options, when none of them are actual options anyone will be choosing from, and why MCPS staff and consultants are holding all these meetings, which is a huge waste of time and resources, is beyond me

So wait, non of these options are even reak? WTF is the point? When will the real options be presented? This is super dumb.

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Anonymous wrote:JFC, none of the 4 are real options - they are showing you an option that focus on each one of the 4 priorities in FAA. The options the Superintendent will chose from, to recommend to try BOE, haven't been shared yet.

What MCPS staff allowed the consultants to release these 4 options, when none of them are actual options anyone will be choosing from, and why MCPS staff and consultants are holding all these meetings, which is a huge waste of time and resources, is beyond me

So wait, non of these options are even reak? WTF is the point? When will the real options be presented? This is super dumb.

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Well according to the MCPS website they are options that will be “refined.” I wouldn’t bank on random internet poster’s statements that they aren’t at least somewhat indicative of what the eventual option will be.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why they would make 7th and 10th graders move to a new school if their inbounds school change. They should have just 6th and 9th graders implement it in the first school, so that 7th and 10th graders do not have to move to a new school, which is really disruptive.

Then they'd be opening Woodward and Crown with no one but ninth graders there. That's not efficient, and leaves a lot of unnecessary overcrowding.

It’s not just about efficiency. It’s about emotional toll on so many kids. We could be talking about thousands of kids here. They’re not just numbers.

Kids have been dealing with changing schools for decades. They are more resilient than we give them credit for.

Yeah other kids are resilient as long as it’s not impacting your kids.

Also we’ve heard the resiliency line all through covid. Guess what? The kids were not resilient, and there is plenty of data now to show that.

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Anonymous wrote:JFC, none of the 4 are real options - they are showing you an option that focus on each one of the 4 priorities in FAA. The options the Superintendent will chose from, to recommend to try BOE, haven't been shared yet.

What MCPS staff allowed the consultants to release these 4 options, when none of them are actual options anyone will be choosing from, and why MCPS staff and consultants are holding all these meetings, which is a huge waste of time and resources, is beyond me

So wait, non of these options are even reak? WTF is the point? When will the real options be presented? This is super dumb.

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Well according to the MCPS website they are options that will be “refined.” I wouldn’t bank on random internet poster’s statements that they aren’t at least somewhat indicative of what the eventual option will be.

I hope they will be refined the way a caterpillar is refined into a butterfly.

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What changes does option 3 bring for you and the people you know?

I have yet to see a single person actually affected meaningfully by option 3 in favor of option 3. It’s all people who think they know what’s best for other people’s kids.

I’m affected positively by option 3. My kids (very very young not even in school yet) would go from Wheaton to WJ. And it’s not really that far from us either. But I know that’s selfish - it really does seem like a ridiculous option that negatively impacts so many others so I realize it will likely not happen like it is drawn up

Ours would go from Einstein to BCC, which I see as positive on one hand but negative in other ways. Getting to Bethesda from our house in traffic takes significantly longer than getting to Einstein, so managing afterschool activities, school events, and even meeting up with their friends would be a real headache. I also personally like being at a school where there we don't have to worry about "keeping up with the Joneses." It's a traadeoff but given the option we'd rather our kids attend a school in our neighborhood. If we had wanted our kids to attend Bethesda schools, we would have bought or rented an apartment in Bethesda rather than a house in SIlver Spring.

Are you zoned for Woodlin.ES? There is a 5 minute difference right now between driving to Einstein from Woodside Park vs driving to BCC. Einstein is overcrowded. The Woodlin ES area is an obvious choice to relieve overcrowding at Einstein because you are not that close to Einstein and BCC is not that much further.

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Anonymous wrote:JFC, none of the 4 are real options - they are showing you an option that focus on each one of the 4 priorities in FAA. The options the Superintendent will chose from, to recommend to try BOE, haven't been shared yet.

What MCPS staff allowed the consultants to release these 4 options, when none of them are actual options anyone will be choosing from, and why MCPS staff and consultants are holding all these meetings, which is a huge waste of time and resources, is beyond me

So wait, non of these options are even reak? WTF is the point? When will the real options be presented? This is super dumb.

September

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Anonymous wrote:

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What changes does option 3 bring for you and the people you know?

I have yet to see a single person actually affected meaningfully by option 3 in favor of option 3. It’s all people who think they know what’s best for other people’s kids.

I’m affected positively by option 3. My kids (very very young not even in school yet) would go from Wheaton to WJ. And it’s not really that far from us either. But I know that’s selfish - it really does seem like a ridiculous option that negatively impacts so many others so I realize it will likely not happen like it is drawn up

Ours would go from Einstein to BCC, which I see as positive on one hand but negative in other ways. Getting to Bethesda from our house in traffic takes significantly longer than getting to Einstein, so managing afterschool activities, school events, and even meeting up with their friends would be a real headache. I also personally like being at a school where there we don't have to worry about "keeping up with the Joneses." It's a traadeoff but given the option we'd rather our kids attend a school in our neighborhood. If we had wanted our kids to attend Bethesda schools, we would have bought or rented an apartment in Bethesda rather than a house in SIlver Spring.

Are you zoned for Woodlin.ES? There is a 5 minute difference right now between driving to Einstein from Woodside Park vs driving to BCC. Einstein is overcrowded. The Woodlin ES area is an obvious choice to relieve overcrowding at Einstein because you are not that close to Einstein and BCC is not that much further.

Option 3 sends all of Woodlin to Northwood, not BCC.

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Anonymous wrote:JFC, none of the 4 are real options - they are showing you an option that focus on each one of the 4 priorities in FAA. The options the Superintendent will chose from, to recommend to try BOE, haven't been shared yet.

What MCPS staff allowed the consultants to release these 4 options, when none of them are actual options anyone will be choosing from, and why MCPS staff and consultants are holding all these meetings, which is a huge waste of time and resources, is beyond me

So wait, non of these options are even reak? WTF is the point? When will the real options be presented? This is super dumb.

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Well according to the MCPS website they are options that will be “refined.” I wouldn’t bank on random internet poster’s statements that they aren’t at least somewhat indicative of what the eventual option will be.

I hope they will be refined the way a caterpillar is refined into a butterfly.

Thank you for this.

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What changes does option 3 bring for you and the people you know?

I have yet to see a single person actually affected meaningfully by option 3 in favor of option 3. It’s all people who think they know what’s best for other people’s kids.

I’m affected positively by option 3. My kids (very very young not even in school yet) would go from Wheaton to WJ. And it’s not really that far from us either. But I know that’s selfish - it really does seem like a ridiculous option that negatively impacts so many others so I realize it will likely not happen like it is drawn up

Ours would go from Einstein to BCC, which I see as positive on one hand but negative in other ways. Getting to Bethesda from our house in traffic takes significantly longer than getting to Einstein, so managing afterschool activities, school events, and even meeting up with their friends would be a real headache. I also personally like being at a school where there we don't have to worry about "keeping up with the Joneses." It's a traadeoff but given the option we'd rather our kids attend a school in our neighborhood. If we had wanted our kids to attend Bethesda schools, we would have bought or rented an apartment in Bethesda rather than a house in SIlver Spring.

Are you zoned for Woodlin.ES? There is a 5 minute difference right now between driving to Einstein from Woodside Park vs driving to BCC. Einstein is overcrowded. The Woodlin ES area is an obvious choice to relieve overcrowding at Einstein because you are not that close to Einstein and BCC is not that much further.

Option 3 does not have Woodlin in BCC? They are probably at Glen Haven or Flora Singer.