Biden’s latest Poll numbers

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National polls don’t tell us anything when you get elected by the electoral college aka battleground states. Are we seeing the same changes in the independents in those states?

Interestingly 538 has Biden leading in a new model that splits the difference between battleground state polls (with Trump still leading) and what it terms “fundamentals.” We will see how this new methodology pans out.

I saw a Newsweek article (so grain of salt this) that had a poll that said one in twenty Trump voters are switching to Biden this time. I didn’t care enough to go looking for the original source and the cross tabs, but if that’s the case, Herr Drumpf is cooked like one of his favorite ketchup-covered steaks.

Needs more push-polling!

You seem oddly distressed by this. Two polls and you had to run and use an emoji in two separate replies; are you insecure? I thought you were certain Trump would win? That’s what you guys always say.

Somebody else is pretty worried too: https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/112649824679207686

He genuinely thinks he can win the election with polls in May and June. The election isn't ever decided until October. Has he got those Haley voters back? He's in for an (unpleasant) surprise in November.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s done. Start to plan for a Trump presidency. Biden throw this one away with his Israel play.

I stated this several times back in nov/dec on the original 2000 pages of the gaza thread and i was told i was nuts and that “no one would be talking about gaza in 6 months”.

Well, here we are.

Biden sold himself to zionists and now america as we know it is over

Immigration. Economy. Crime.

forgot Education

Immigration. Economy. Crime. Education.

The federal govt has little impact on Education, it’s a state and local
Issue.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

National polls don’t tell us anything when you get elected by the electoral college aka battleground states. Are we seeing the same changes in the independents in those states?

Interestingly 538 has Biden leading in a new model that splits the difference between battleground state polls (with Trump still leading) and what it terms “fundamentals.” We will see how this new methodology pans out.

Oh, a new model. Yes, yes! I guess the previous one was depressing all the democrats.

Democrats have won or ourperformed every poll that has mattered since 2017.

No one is depressed.

Biden under performed in the 2020 election relative to polling data leading up to the election but he still won the necessary electoral votes by a comfortable margin because the GOP incumbent was a very weak candidate that independent/swing voters were willing to show up to vote out of office. Biden is now a very unpopular and elderly incumbent that in any normal election would have little chance of being re-elected but thanks to the moronic GOP's addiction to Trumpism, Biden should and will be our president until 2029. Yes, a large percentage of the GOP base will inexplicably show up to vote for Trump once again but for the same reasons they did in 2020, the sane and sensible independent/swing voters that will decide the 2024 election will not be duped into voting for the Trump madness like they did in 2016. Thank you swing voters not being fooled more than once.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

National polls don’t tell us anything when you get elected by the electoral college aka battleground states. Are we seeing the same changes in the independents in those states?

Interestingly 538 has Biden leading in a new model that splits the difference between battleground state polls (with Trump still leading) and what it terms “fundamentals.” We will see how this new methodology pans out.

Oh, a new model. Yes, yes! I guess the previous one was depressing all the democrats.

Democrats have won or ourperformed every poll that has mattered since 2017.

No one is depressed.

Biden under performed in the 2020 election relative to polling data leading up to the election but he still won the necessary electoral votes by a comfortable margin because the GOP incumbent was a very weak candidate that independent/swing voters were willing to show up to vote out of office. Biden is now a very unpopular and elderly incumbent that in any normal election would have little chance of being re-elected but thanks to the moronic GOP's addiction to Trumpism, Biden should and will be our president until 2029. Yes, a large percentage of the GOP base will inexplicably show up to vote for Trump once again but for the same reasons they did in 2020, the sane and sensible independent/swing voters that will decide the 2024 election will not be duped into voting for the Trump madness like they did in 2016. Thank you swing voters not being fooled more than once.

Biden won in 2020 due to 100k votes across four swing states. All these swing states show consistent to even large leads for Trump. Trump wins those four states, he will win the electoral college. It doesn't matter if Biden racks up massive and even bigger majorities in California. It matters if he loses Arizona and Georgia and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. And right now he is.

This is an election where it is not wise to make predictions for this fall. But at this point Georgia is probably a loss for Biden and Nevada is now in play. All the others are within margin of error but Trump still persistently leads. And turnout will be key.

That's what matters. Biden is behind in thr swing states and all signs show to lackluster turnout and enthusiasm among critical demographics he needs to win. The swing state wins in 2020 were so small that just a tiny dip in turnout flips them to Trump.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

National polls don’t tell us anything when you get elected by the electoral college aka battleground states. Are we seeing the same changes in the independents in those states?

Interestingly 538 has Biden leading in a new model that splits the difference between battleground state polls (with Trump still leading) and what it terms “fundamentals.” We will see how this new methodology pans out.

Oh, a new model. Yes, yes! I guess the previous one was depressing all the democrats.

Democrats have won or ourperformed every poll that has mattered since 2017.

No one is depressed.

Biden under performed in the 2020 election relative to polling data leading up to the election but he still won the necessary electoral votes by a comfortable margin because the GOP incumbent was a very weak candidate that independent/swing voters were willing to show up to vote out of office. Biden is now a very unpopular and elderly incumbent that in any normal election would have little chance of being re-elected but thanks to the moronic GOP's addiction to Trumpism, Biden should and will be our president until 2029. Yes, a large percentage of the GOP base will inexplicably show up to vote for Trump once again but for the same reasons they did in 2020, the sane and sensible independent/swing voters that will decide the 2024 election will not be duped into voting for the Trump madness like they did in 2016. Thank you swing voters not being fooled more than once.

Biden won in 2020 due to 100k votes across four swing states. All these swing states show consistent to even large leads for Trump. Trump wins those four states, he will win the electoral college. It doesn't matter if Biden racks up massive and even bigger majorities in California. It matters if he loses Arizona and Georgia and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. And right now he is.

This is an election where it is not wise to make predictions for this fall. But at this point Georgia is probably a loss for Biden and Nevada is now in play. All the others are within margin of error but Trump still persistently leads. And turnout will be key.

That's what matters. Biden is behind in thr swing states and all signs show to lackluster turnout and enthusiasm among critical demographics he needs to win. The swing state wins in 2020 were so small that just a tiny dip in turnout flips them to Trump.

You are basing your opinion on polling that has been routinely wrong for a decade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

National polls don’t tell us anything when you get elected by the electoral college aka battleground states. Are we seeing the same changes in the independents in those states?

Interestingly 538 has Biden leading in a new model that splits the difference between battleground state polls (with Trump still leading) and what it terms “fundamentals.” We will see how this new methodology pans out.

Oh, a new model. Yes, yes! I guess the previous one was depressing all the democrats.

Democrats have won or ourperformed every poll that has mattered since 2017.

No one is depressed.

Biden under performed in the 2020 election relative to polling data leading up to the election but he still won the necessary electoral votes by a comfortable margin because the GOP incumbent was a very weak candidate that independent/swing voters were willing to show up to vote out of office. Biden is now a very unpopular and elderly incumbent that in any normal election would have little chance of being re-elected but thanks to the moronic GOP's addiction to Trumpism, Biden should and will be our president until 2029. Yes, a large percentage of the GOP base will inexplicably show up to vote for Trump once again but for the same reasons they did in 2020, the sane and sensible independent/swing voters that will decide the 2024 election will not be duped into voting for the Trump madness like they did in 2016. Thank you swing voters not being fooled more than once.

Biden won in 2020 due to 100k votes across four swing states. All these swing states show consistent to even large leads for Trump. Trump wins those four states, he will win the electoral college. It doesn't matter if Biden racks up massive and even bigger majorities in California. It matters if he loses Arizona and Georgia and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. And right now he is.

This is an election where it is not wise to make predictions for this fall. But at this point Georgia is probably a loss for Biden and Nevada is now in play. All the others are within margin of error but Trump still persistently leads. And turnout will be key.

That's what matters. Biden is behind in thr swing states and all signs show to lackluster turnout and enthusiasm among critical demographics he needs to win. The swing state wins in 2020 were so small that just a tiny dip in turnout flips them to Trump.

And a tiny dip on Trump's side with the independents, Haley supporters, and abortion proponents, keeps them with Biden. There hasn't been an election result in two years that's been encouraging for the GOP. Trump supporters are putting FAR too much credence in these May/June polls.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:It’s done. Start to plan for a Trump presidency. Biden throw this one away with his Israel play.

I stated this several times back in nov/dec on the original 2000 pages of the gaza thread and i was told i was nuts and that “no one would be talking about gaza in 6 months”.

Well, here we are.

Biden sold himself to zionists and now america as we know it is over

Immigration. Economy. Crime.

forgot Education

Immigration. Economy. Crime. Education.

The federal govt has little impact on Education, it’s a state and local
Issue.

Actually, there are many federal rules, regulations, laws, and requirements regarding special education, 504 plans, recent immigrants, provision of second language services, Title I schools, discrimination, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

National polls don’t tell us anything when you get elected by the electoral college aka battleground states. Are we seeing the same changes in the independents in those states?

Interestingly 538 has Biden leading in a new model that splits the difference between battleground state polls (with Trump still leading) and what it terms “fundamentals.” We will see how this new methodology pans out.

Oh, a new model. Yes, yes! I guess the previous one was depressing all the democrats.

Democrats have won or ourperformed every poll that has mattered since 2017.

No one is depressed.

Biden under performed in the 2020 election relative to polling data leading up to the election but he still won the necessary electoral votes by a comfortable margin because the GOP incumbent was a very weak candidate that independent/swing voters were willing to show up to vote out of office. Biden is now a very unpopular and elderly incumbent that in any normal election would have little chance of being re-elected but thanks to the moronic GOP's addiction to Trumpism, Biden should and will be our president until 2029. Yes, a large percentage of the GOP base will inexplicably show up to vote for Trump once again but for the same reasons they did in 2020, the sane and sensible independent/swing voters that will decide the 2024 election will not be duped into voting for the Trump madness like they did in 2016. Thank you swing voters not being fooled more than once.

Biden won in 2020 due to 100k votes across four swing states. All these swing states show consistent to even large leads for Trump. Trump wins those four states, he will win the electoral college. It doesn't matter if Biden racks up massive and even bigger majorities in California. It matters if he loses Arizona and Georgia and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. And right now he is.

This is an election where it is not wise to make predictions for this fall. But at this point Georgia is probably a loss for Biden and Nevada is now in play. All the others are within margin of error but Trump still persistently leads. And turnout will be key.

That's what matters. Biden is behind in thr swing states and all signs show to lackluster turnout and enthusiasm among critical demographics he needs to win. The swing state wins in 2020 were so small that just a tiny dip in turnout flips them to Trump.

It is possible for Trump to win. His opponent's weakness and the misguided fools that continue to support him make it possible. While it is possible for Trump to win, there still is no reasonable argument for why he should be POTUS again. Integrity is the most important trait for a POTUS to have and Trump simply doesn't have the integrity a worthy POTUS needs to have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

National polls don’t tell us anything when you get elected by the electoral college aka battleground states. Are we seeing the same changes in the independents in those states?

Interestingly 538 has Biden leading in a new model that splits the difference between battleground state polls (with Trump still leading) and what it terms “fundamentals.” We will see how this new methodology pans out.

Oh, a new model. Yes, yes! I guess the previous one was depressing all the democrats.

Democrats have won or ourperformed every poll that has mattered since 2017.

No one is depressed.

Biden under performed in the 2020 election relative to polling data leading up to the election but he still won the necessary electoral votes by a comfortable margin because the GOP incumbent was a very weak candidate that independent/swing voters were willing to show up to vote out of office. Biden is now a very unpopular and elderly incumbent that in any normal election would have little chance of being re-elected but thanks to the moronic GOP's addiction to Trumpism, Biden should and will be our president until 2029. Yes, a large percentage of the GOP base will inexplicably show up to vote for Trump once again but for the same reasons they did in 2020, the sane and sensible independent/swing voters that will decide the 2024 election will not be duped into voting for the Trump madness like they did in 2016. Thank you swing voters not being fooled more than once.

Biden won in 2020 due to 100k votes across four swing states. All these swing states show consistent to even large leads for Trump. Trump wins those four states, he will win the electoral college. It doesn't matter if Biden racks up massive and even bigger majorities in California. It matters if he loses Arizona and Georgia and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. And right now he is.

This is an election where it is not wise to make predictions for this fall. But at this point Georgia is probably a loss for Biden and Nevada is now in play. All the others are within margin of error but Trump still persistently leads. And turnout will be key.

That's what matters. Biden is behind in thr swing states and all signs show to lackluster turnout and enthusiasm among critical demographics he needs to win. The swing state wins in 2020 were so small that just a tiny dip in turnout flips them to Trump.

And a tiny dip on Trump's side with the independents, Haley supporters, and abortion proponents, keeps them with Biden. There hasn't been an election result in two years that's been encouraging for the GOP. Trump supporters are putting FAR too much credence in these May/June polls.

The most current polls for swing states still show a lead for Trump. 538 has Nevada with a Trump lead of nearly 3 points. Seems the independents that are swinging are not in the states that matter. We could be looking at an electoral win for Trump while losing the popular vote. Still too early to tell.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

National polls don’t tell us anything when you get elected by the electoral college aka battleground states. Are we seeing the same changes in the independents in those states?

Interestingly 538 has Biden leading in a new model that splits the difference between battleground state polls (with Trump still leading) and what it terms “fundamentals.” We will see how this new methodology pans out.

Oh, a new model. Yes, yes! I guess the previous one was depressing all the democrats.

Democrats have won or ourperformed every poll that has mattered since 2017.

No one is depressed.

Biden under performed in the 2020 election relative to polling data leading up to the election but he still won the necessary electoral votes by a comfortable margin because the GOP incumbent was a very weak candidate that independent/swing voters were willing to show up to vote out of office. Biden is now a very unpopular and elderly incumbent that in any normal election would have little chance of being re-elected but thanks to the moronic GOP's addiction to Trumpism, Biden should and will be our president until 2029. Yes, a large percentage of the GOP base will inexplicably show up to vote for Trump once again but for the same reasons they did in 2020, the sane and sensible independent/swing voters that will decide the 2024 election will not be duped into voting for the Trump madness like they did in 2016. Thank you swing voters not being fooled more than once.

Biden won in 2020 due to 100k votes across four swing states. All these swing states show consistent to even large leads for Trump. Trump wins those four states, he will win the electoral college. It doesn't matter if Biden racks up massive and even bigger majorities in California. It matters if he loses Arizona and Georgia and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. And right now he is.

This is an election where it is not wise to make predictions for this fall. But at this point Georgia is probably a loss for Biden and Nevada is now in play. All the others are within margin of error but Trump still persistently leads. And turnout will be key.

That's what matters. Biden is behind in thr swing states and all signs show to lackluster turnout and enthusiasm among critical demographics he needs to win. The swing state wins in 2020 were so small that just a tiny dip in turnout flips them to Trump.

And a tiny dip on Trump's side with the independents, Haley supporters, and abortion proponents, keeps them with Biden. There hasn't been an election result in two years that's been encouraging for the GOP. Trump supporters are putting FAR too much credence in these May/June polls.

The most current polls for swing states still show a lead for Trump. 538 has Nevada with a Trump lead of nearly 3 points. Seems the independents that are swinging are not in the states that matter. We could be looking at an electoral win for Trump while losing the popular vote. Still too early to tell.

It is way too early to tell. We won't really know until October. But Trump supporters are rolling out these polls like he's already won. And there's reason to believe those polls aren't going to manifest in actual cast votes.

[Anonymous]

Democrats have over performed vs the polls for years now.

Some of them make no sense when you look at the details. The latest Fox pool has Biden up by 2 points. With only 73% of the black vote. They had him at 79% just before the 2020 election. But he actually won 91%.

Motivated and engaged voters skew democratic. It shows up in polls and all the elections the last few years. With turnout likely to be lower than 2020, that also favors democrats. An over performance against polls is highly likely again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Democrats have over performed vs the polls for years now.

Some of them make no sense when you look at the details. The latest Fox pool has Biden up by 2 points. With only 73% of the black vote. They had him at 79% just before the 2020 election. But he actually won 91%.

Motivated and engaged voters skew democratic. It shows up in polls and all the elections the last few years. With turnout likely to be lower than 2020, that also favors democrats. An over performance against polls is highly likely again.

This is the kind of massaging that pollsters keep doing to make it look like Republicans got this in the bag, but we all remember the red wave that wasn’t. Biden and the Democrats did better in that election than just about any sitting president in like eighty years.

Trump is not going to become more cogent or less of a traitor or suddenly not a felon. The elected Republicans are not suddenly going to care about governing sensibly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

National polls don’t tell us anything when you get elected by the electoral college aka battleground states. Are we seeing the same changes in the independents in those states?

Interestingly 538 has Biden leading in a new model that splits the difference between battleground state polls (with Trump still leading) and what it terms “fundamentals.” We will see how this new methodology pans out.

Oh, a new model. Yes, yes! I guess the previous one was depressing all the democrats.

Democrats have won or ourperformed every poll that has mattered since 2017.

No one is depressed.

Biden under performed in the 2020 election relative to polling data leading up to the election but he still won the necessary electoral votes by a comfortable margin because the GOP incumbent was a very weak candidate that independent/swing voters were willing to show up to vote out of office. Biden is now a very unpopular and elderly incumbent that in any normal election would have little chance of being re-elected but thanks to the moronic GOP's addiction to Trumpism, Biden should and will be our president until 2029. Yes, a large percentage of the GOP base will inexplicably show up to vote for Trump once again but for the same reasons they did in 2020, the sane and sensible independent/swing voters that will decide the 2024 election will not be duped into voting for the Trump madness like they did in 2016. Thank you swing voters not being fooled more than once.

Biden won in 2020 due to 100k votes across four swing states. All these swing states show consistent to even large leads for Trump. Trump wins those four states, he will win the electoral college. It doesn't matter if Biden racks up massive and even bigger majorities in California. It matters if he loses Arizona and Georgia and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. And right now he is.

This is an election where it is not wise to make predictions for this fall. But at this point Georgia is probably a loss for Biden and Nevada is now in play. All the others are within margin of error but Trump still persistently leads. And turnout will be key.

That's what matters. Biden is behind in thr swing states and all signs show to lackluster turnout and enthusiasm among critical demographics he needs to win. The swing state wins in 2020 were so small that just a tiny dip in turnout flips them to Trump.

And a tiny dip on Trump's side with the independents, Haley supporters, and abortion proponents, keeps them with Biden. There hasn't been an election result in two years that's been encouraging for the GOP. Trump supporters are putting FAR too much credence in these May/June polls.

I would say far too many Democrats continue to have a misplaced faith in Biden. He has no natural base. He's never been remotely successful nationally until Obama plucked him from obscurity. He's now very old and obviously declining. No one is voting for Biden. They are only voting against Trump. And that is a dangerous game to play in what will likely be a low turnout election that will invariably come down to a few thousand voters in a handful of swing states - and Biden is presently losing all of them.

Democrats may have done well in recent elections, but I think they're being complacent at the presidential level. Biden is not a strong candidate. And there will be many who will vote split ticket. And many, many others who won't bother voting at all. This is a dismal election with both parties nominating their worst.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

National polls don’t tell us anything when you get elected by the electoral college aka battleground states. Are we seeing the same changes in the independents in those states?

Interestingly 538 has Biden leading in a new model that splits the difference between battleground state polls (with Trump still leading) and what it terms “fundamentals.” We will see how this new methodology pans out.

Oh, a new model. Yes, yes! I guess the previous one was depressing all the democrats.

Democrats have won or ourperformed every poll that has mattered since 2017.

No one is depressed.

Biden under performed in the 2020 election relative to polling data leading up to the election but he still won the necessary electoral votes by a comfortable margin because the GOP incumbent was a very weak candidate that independent/swing voters were willing to show up to vote out of office. Biden is now a very unpopular and elderly incumbent that in any normal election would have little chance of being re-elected but thanks to the moronic GOP's addiction to Trumpism, Biden should and will be our president until 2029. Yes, a large percentage of the GOP base will inexplicably show up to vote for Trump once again but for the same reasons they did in 2020, the sane and sensible independent/swing voters that will decide the 2024 election will not be duped into voting for the Trump madness like they did in 2016. Thank you swing voters not being fooled more than once.

Biden won in 2020 due to 100k votes across four swing states. All these swing states show consistent to even large leads for Trump. Trump wins those four states, he will win the electoral college. It doesn't matter if Biden racks up massive and even bigger majorities in California. It matters if he loses Arizona and Georgia and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. And right now he is.

This is an election where it is not wise to make predictions for this fall. But at this point Georgia is probably a loss for Biden and Nevada is now in play. All the others are within margin of error but Trump still persistently leads. And turnout will be key.

That's what matters. Biden is behind in thr swing states and all signs show to lackluster turnout and enthusiasm among critical demographics he needs to win. The swing state wins in 2020 were so small that just a tiny dip in turnout flips them to Trump.

And a tiny dip on Trump's side with the independents, Haley supporters, and abortion proponents, keeps them with Biden. There hasn't been an election result in two years that's been encouraging for the GOP. Trump supporters are putting FAR too much credence in these May/June polls.

I would say far too many Democrats continue to have a misplaced faith in Biden. He has no natural base. He's never been remotely successful nationally until Obama plucked him from obscurity. He's now very old and obviously declining. No one is voting for Biden. They are only voting against Trump. And that is a dangerous game to play in what will likely be a low turnout election that will invariably come down to a few thousand voters in a handful of swing states - and Biden is presently losing all of them.

Democrats may have done well in recent elections, but I think they're being complacent at the presidential level. Biden is not a strong candidate. And there will be many who will vote split ticket. And many, many others who won't bother voting at all. This is a dismal election with both parties nominating their worst.

I’d like to yeet the “both sides” garbage take into the sun. It is a brain dead take meant to serve the interests of the Republican Party. There is no both sides here at any level - party, president, state, local, hangers on, the GOP is worse in every way.

No matter how many times you and your fellow “but I’m a dem” Republicans moan about “both sides” people can see what the GOP is and what their plans are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Democrats have over performed vs the polls for years now.

Some of them make no sense when you look at the details. The latest Fox pool has Biden up by 2 points. With only 73% of the black vote. They had him at 79% just before the 2020 election. But he actually won 91%.

Motivated and engaged voters skew democratic. It shows up in polls and all the elections the last few years. With turnout likely to be lower than 2020, that also favors democrats. An over performance against polls is highly likely again.

+1 and all the swing state polls show Trump slightly ahead but with Democratic senate candidates with comfortable leads, which doesn’t make sense either.