Are Asian students at a disadvantage?
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Anonymous
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My son is Asian. Has dual citizenship and possibly a third citizenship to come.
He's no braniac - more of an athlete trying to use his sport to get him into good schools (He has a 3.91 UW GPA with about 8 APs but his test scores will likely be low) Is he going to have trouble getting into schools because he doesn't test as high as most Asians? We are hoping the coach who recruits him will help nudge him over the finish line a bit but it seems like coaches and admissions officers see an Asian kid and assume they will have a 1600 SAT and I'm not sure they will accept my child who does not. |
Anonymous
Citizenship doesn’t matter unless you’re full pay and actually international and coming from an international home address. Recruited athlete or on the bubble of recruited athlete (like talking to coach but coach can’t give him a likely letter or one of the team’s slots) is good if he is going for Ivy or NESCAC…or a D3 school in general. That takes him out of the general Asian male pile and puts him into the male athlete pile. Then the game changes. Unless his sport is squash or tennis, the male athlete pile will be not very Asian and he will stand out more. He needs to be on top of his recruiting conversations and cannot take his foot off the gas! |
Anonymous
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An Asian kid who is an athlete will actually stand out positively as one who goes against stereotypes.
But really, if your kid is working hard and taking challenging classes, there's no need to worry about which specific college they attend if they put together a good list of reaches, targets and safeties. The safeties will get them where they need to go if the reaches don't work out. It's not like some other countries where hiring looks heavily at where you went to college. Read this essay and look at some of the lists on the website that might apply to your kid, and I think you'll relax some. https://lesshighschoolstress.com/ |
Anonymous
| If you're concerned about this, I'm pretty sure CAL schools can't use race as part of their selection criteria. Also, thought this latest SCOTUS decision also made it illegal. |
Anonymous
+1. Asian non-athletes have more admission challenges than Asian athletes do. I know of someone who is Asian-American who got into a top-3 Ivy with only average grades, and a solid but not stellar SAT, but she was athletic in a sport other than tennis/squash/swimming. That moved her to the athletic pile - and out of the general pile - for admissions consideration. |
Anonymous
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An Asian athlete has better chances than an unathletic Asian, and particularly if he's not going into an Asian boy-heavy major.
Please be assured that his GPA matters more than his scores in this test-optional environment. He needs to keep up his GPA at all costs, and apply TO if you believe that his scores are doing him any favors. 8 APs is fine. |
Anonymous
| Not a brainiac with a 3.9 GPA? I guess that makes my kids fall into the learning disabilities category |
Anonymous
| Am I missing something? Wasn't the whole Supreme Court Anti-affirmative action case about this? It will be illegal for any school to use his race against him when he applies. |
Anonymous
NP here. Each group (Asians, whites and URMs) are competing against their own demographic from their respective high school. Colleges can only accept so many total students from each high school, so your peers are your competition. Some colleges will not admit to this, and others have only recently started admitting to this practice. As an Asian, if you are playing piano or violin (there might be other instruments thought of as "Asian heavy" now), and have high GPA and test score, and don't play a sport (other than racquet sports or golf) - then you are in the same pile as your Asian peers. Affirmative Action has nothing to do with anything, for the record, because URMs (and probably whites) are under separate consideration. You are competing against your own demographic. Also, be careful where you get your admissions information. There is much bad information regarding "pointy" and "well rounded" schools, for example. |
Anonymous
Cal schools still want diversity and use self identifying information in essays and zipcodes. |
Anonymous
This is the other side of the "model minority " myth. All Asians aren’t academic superstars. Most go to community colleges. Blame the tiger moms. |
Anonymous
if you are not academic superstar, can you even call yourself an Asian? |
Anonymous
There are different strata for Asians, just as for other groups. |
Anonymous
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My Asian boy gets good GPA in school but he does not do well in sports. I never see him study, but he is outside to play sports day and night. He has low muscle tone and average build, and that makes it more harder for him to do well in any sports. I wish he spends more time and effort into studies, but he does not listen to me.
My Asian girl does really poor in school and she has learning disabilities. I don't even know about her future. No matter how hard I push her to study, she gets passing score. I just hope that she can graduate & attend community college. She is into dance and singing, but there is no award/prize. |
Anonymous
| Yes. |