APS Closing Nottingham

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Anonymous wrote:My kids have been at N Arlington schools (elementary and middle) at peak overcrowding. Trailers for sure. But none of the other things you mention were an issue. Anyway, if it gets that bad they can put Nottingham back in action as a neighbor hood school.


You are wrong about this. Kids have to eat lunch at like ten now at our North Arlington elementary (and middle) schools. Cafeteria cannot accommodate.
And school is not overcrowded because everyone pulled their kid for private.

I don’t hate that trailers although I think it’s hilarious that we have kids in overcrowded schools and trailers rather efficiently use under-enrolled actual school buildings.

And the fact that trailers are a long term solution in Arlington. Our school has had them for probably more than 20 years; definitely more than a decade. That cracks me up as well. Idiots at APS. Cannot plan.


Because we have limited land and budget.


No actually, right now the issue is that we have a dumb plan to close a school and put kids in trailers at other schools.

For all of you who think trailers are just fine, good luck.


You say this as though trailers are a new practice and none of us have experience with them.

I do. They were in fact fine. My kids say they were fine. Calm down.


Look at all these pro APS groupies who are perfectly fine with trailers. Did APS staff find this thread?


I thought trailers were horrible…until my kids actually had classes in them. They truly are not bad at all. My kids (and their teachers) liked it because they had some independence.

Do the people complaining about trailers actually have kids in APS?

Funniest thing I realized recently on AEM. One of the biggest APE loudmouths’ kids just started in APS in the last year or so. So much of that screaming was *before* she even had kids in APS. Some people just enjoy complaining.


Yes a lot of the APEs have very young kids or kids not even in APS. A lot moved to private. They are just really loud but they don't have much actual experience with APS or public schools.


Page 73 of this thread is FILLED with anti-APE statements. How can you say that defending a post defending the predicate for their organization — opening schools — should be blocked and off topic?

Anyone who posts on here in defense of keeping Nottingham opening or questioning the APS staff is labeled “APE.” It appears to me that attackers are using it as a proxy to mean a wealthy, entitled, probably white North Arlingtonian. Again, not in APE, but planning on joining based solely on this thread.


Why is APE relevant to this thread and why are the last dozen comments about them? Do they have an opinion on Nottingham? Or is it because they are the proxy for white entitled North Arlington? Why are people so obsessed with this group? Cue 5 more pages of hysteria.


Yes, APE released a statement to Arlnow that they have concerns about the proposal and the anti-APEs lost their mind because the APEs didn’t speak out on masks but would speak out on this. Or something.

Queue a dozen questions about what their mission does and doesn’t entail and a whole lot of stereotyping nastiness about white North Arlington parents, and here we are.


Cue the queue?

People don't like APE because they are irrational and clueless. Plus, they shat on teachers and other parents for years.


Once again, APE was right about COVID. You were wrong. Your fire breathing is what is irrational here. Get over it. You were wrong.


No, given the info at the time they were not "right".


Huge swaths of this bastion of liberal wokeness wanted it open? What are you talking about? Science and history have judged your case and you were wrong.


Careful, your MAGA is showing, Mr. APE


People who wanted the schools open are not only APE they are also MAGA? Holy cow. You are delusional.


DP. The founder and current board are MAGA.
.

I wanted the schools open. I wasnt in APE. I have nothing to do with APE. You insist I am APE. I have voted democratic for decades. The democrats got the covid issue wrong. I am increasingly disagreeing with APS as I see their planning as short sighted. I am also not a Nottingham parent.


+1. The continuing hostility to people who wanted the schools open when it was objectively the right thing to do (in hindsight) baffles me. And while I’m not the PP, I have kids, and they were in daycare at the time because keeping them home was not a viable option for our family. They were nervous times for sure. A lot of fearmongering about remote risks from keeping schools open (ie healthy kids dying), and a lot of discounting of likely risks from keeping schools closed (ie behavioral problems, speech delays, addiction/suicide).

Overreacting based on limited data and an artificially narrow set of considerations seems to be the APS way. And while I hate how MAGA politicized this thing initially, the Left certainly did its part in locking it in. We have to recognize how we went wrong if we ever hope to do better in future.


Well said. My opinion of Arlington as a whole has been impacted by this. We are less rationale then I thought we were. Objectively, APS made a bad call. For lots of reasons. Some of which were valid. But still, objectively it was a bad call. I honestly can't believe how many in APS still can't or won't see that. It's bizarre. (And yes, I realize I will never change any of your minds.)
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Anonymous wrote:My kids have been at N Arlington schools (elementary and middle) at peak overcrowding. Trailers for sure. But none of the other things you mention were an issue. Anyway, if it gets that bad they can put Nottingham back in action as a neighbor hood school.


You are wrong about this. Kids have to eat lunch at like ten now at our North Arlington elementary (and middle) schools. Cafeteria cannot accommodate.
And school is not overcrowded because everyone pulled their kid for private.

I don’t hate that trailers although I think it’s hilarious that we have kids in overcrowded schools and trailers rather efficiently use under-enrolled actual school buildings.

And the fact that trailers are a long term solution in Arlington. Our school has had them for probably more than 20 years; definitely more than a decade. That cracks me up as well. Idiots at APS. Cannot plan.


Because we have limited land and budget.


No actually, right now the issue is that we have a dumb plan to close a school and put kids in trailers at other schools.

For all of you who think trailers are just fine, good luck.


You say this as though trailers are a new practice and none of us have experience with them.

I do. They were in fact fine. My kids say they were fine. Calm down.


Look at all these pro APS groupies who are perfectly fine with trailers. Did APS staff find this thread?


I thought trailers were horrible…until my kids actually had classes in them. They truly are not bad at all. My kids (and their teachers) liked it because they had some independence.

Do the people complaining about trailers actually have kids in APS?

Funniest thing I realized recently on AEM. One of the biggest APE loudmouths’ kids just started in APS in the last year or so. So much of that screaming was *before* she even had kids in APS. Some people just enjoy complaining.


Yes a lot of the APEs have very young kids or kids not even in APS. A lot moved to private. They are just really loud but they don't have much actual experience with APS or public schools.


Page 73 of this thread is FILLED with anti-APE statements. How can you say that defending a post defending the predicate for their organization — opening schools — should be blocked and off topic?

Anyone who posts on here in defense of keeping Nottingham opening or questioning the APS staff is labeled “APE.” It appears to me that attackers are using it as a proxy to mean a wealthy, entitled, probably white North Arlingtonian. Again, not in APE, but planning on joining based solely on this thread.


Why is APE relevant to this thread and why are the last dozen comments about them? Do they have an opinion on Nottingham? Or is it because they are the proxy for white entitled North Arlington? Why are people so obsessed with this group? Cue 5 more pages of hysteria.


Yes, APE released a statement to Arlnow that they have concerns about the proposal and the anti-APEs lost their mind because the APEs didn’t speak out on masks but would speak out on this. Or something.

Queue a dozen questions about what their mission does and doesn’t entail and a whole lot of stereotyping nastiness about white North Arlington parents, and here we are.


Cue the queue?

People don't like APE because they are irrational and clueless. Plus, they shat on teachers and other parents for years.


Once again, APE was right about COVID. You were wrong. Your fire breathing is what is irrational here. Get over it. You were wrong.


No, given the info at the time they were not "right".


Huge swaths of this bastion of liberal wokeness wanted it open? What are you talking about? Science and history have judged your case and you were wrong.


Careful, your MAGA is showing, Mr. APE


People who wanted the schools open are not only APE they are also MAGA? Holy cow. You are delusional.


DP. The founder and current board are MAGA.
.

I wanted the schools open. I wasnt in APE. I have nothing to do with APE. You insist I am APE. I have voted democratic for decades. The democrats got the covid issue wrong. I am increasingly disagreeing with APS as I see their planning as short sighted. I am also not a Nottingham parent.


+1. The continuing hostility to people who wanted the schools open when it was objectively the right thing to do (in hindsight) baffles me. And while I’m not the PP, I have kids, and they were in daycare at the time because keeping them home was not a viable option for our family. They were nervous times for sure. A lot of fearmongering about remote risks from keeping schools open (ie healthy kids dying), and a lot of discounting of likely risks from keeping schools closed (ie behavioral problems, speech delays, addiction/suicide).

Overreacting based on limited data and an artificially narrow set of considerations seems to be the APS way. And while I hate how MAGA politicized this thing initially, the Left certainly did its part in locking it in. We have to recognize how we went wrong if we ever hope to do better in future.


I remember the fearmongering and irrational screaming about virtual school, and total denialism of the risks of Covid.


Only people without children would say: “irrational screaming about virtual school.”


I have a kid and I would say characterize a bunch of the screaming about virtual school as irrational. Overblown, at a minimum. It wasn't always easy, but sometimes it was nice tbh, and it brought us closer together as a family. No regrets. I understand not everyone had that experience and that it was harder for some families to be alone with their kids all day while they still had to meet work goals - that part wasn't a cakewalk and there were some long nights. But overall I support the decisions the school board made. They worked for us and they worked for other families I know.
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Anonymous wrote:My kids have been at N Arlington schools (elementary and middle) at peak overcrowding. Trailers for sure. But none of the other things you mention were an issue. Anyway, if it gets that bad they can put Nottingham back in action as a neighbor hood school.


You are wrong about this. Kids have to eat lunch at like ten now at our North Arlington elementary (and middle) schools. Cafeteria cannot accommodate.
And school is not overcrowded because everyone pulled their kid for private.

I don’t hate that trailers although I think it’s hilarious that we have kids in overcrowded schools and trailers rather efficiently use under-enrolled actual school buildings.

And the fact that trailers are a long term solution in Arlington. Our school has had them for probably more than 20 years; definitely more than a decade. That cracks me up as well. Idiots at APS. Cannot plan.


Because we have limited land and budget.


No actually, right now the issue is that we have a dumb plan to close a school and put kids in trailers at other schools.

For all of you who think trailers are just fine, good luck.


You say this as though trailers are a new practice and none of us have experience with them.

I do. They were in fact fine. My kids say they were fine. Calm down.


Look at all these pro APS groupies who are perfectly fine with trailers. Did APS staff find this thread?


I thought trailers were horrible…until my kids actually had classes in them. They truly are not bad at all. My kids (and their teachers) liked it because they had some independence.

Do the people complaining about trailers actually have kids in APS?

Funniest thing I realized recently on AEM. One of the biggest APE loudmouths’ kids just started in APS in the last year or so. So much of that screaming was *before* she even had kids in APS. Some people just enjoy complaining.


Yes a lot of the APEs have very young kids or kids not even in APS. A lot moved to private. They are just really loud but they don't have much actual experience with APS or public schools.


Page 73 of this thread is FILLED with anti-APE statements. How can you say that defending a post defending the predicate for their organization — opening schools — should be blocked and off topic?

Anyone who posts on here in defense of keeping Nottingham opening or questioning the APS staff is labeled “APE.” It appears to me that attackers are using it as a proxy to mean a wealthy, entitled, probably white North Arlingtonian. Again, not in APE, but planning on joining based solely on this thread.


Why is APE relevant to this thread and why are the last dozen comments about them? Do they have an opinion on Nottingham? Or is it because they are the proxy for white entitled North Arlington? Why are people so obsessed with this group? Cue 5 more pages of hysteria.


Yes, APE released a statement to Arlnow that they have concerns about the proposal and the anti-APEs lost their mind because the APEs didn’t speak out on masks but would speak out on this. Or something.

Queue a dozen questions about what their mission does and doesn’t entail and a whole lot of stereotyping nastiness about white North Arlington parents, and here we are.


Cue the queue?

People don't like APE because they are irrational and clueless. Plus, they shat on teachers and other parents for years.


Once again, APE was right about COVID. You were wrong. Your fire breathing is what is irrational here. Get over it. You were wrong.


No, given the info at the time they were not "right".


Huge swaths of this bastion of liberal wokeness wanted it open? What are you talking about? Science and history have judged your case and you were wrong.


Careful, your MAGA is showing, Mr. APE


People who wanted the schools open are not only APE they are also MAGA? Holy cow. You are delusional.


DP. The founder and current board are MAGA.
.

I wanted the schools open. I wasnt in APE. I have nothing to do with APE. You insist I am APE. I have voted democratic for decades. The democrats got the covid issue wrong. I am increasingly disagreeing with APS as I see their planning as short sighted. I am also not a Nottingham parent.


+1. The continuing hostility to people who wanted the schools open when it was objectively the right thing to do (in hindsight) baffles me. And while I’m not the PP, I have kids, and they were in daycare at the time because keeping them home was not a viable option for our family. They were nervous times for sure. A lot of fearmongering about remote risks from keeping schools open (ie healthy kids dying), and a lot of discounting of likely risks from keeping schools closed (ie behavioral problems, speech delays, addiction/suicide).

Overreacting based on limited data and an artificially narrow set of considerations seems to be the APS way. And while I hate how MAGA politicized this thing initially, the Left certainly did its part in locking it in. We have to recognize how we went wrong if we ever hope to do better in future.


I remember the fearmongering and irrational screaming about virtual school, and total denialism of the risks of Covid.


Only people without children would say: “irrational screaming about virtual school.”


Nope, try again. I have two kids and both were in virtual school in APS. It was not easy or good for either one of them, for different reasons, so we were not fans. Even so, I thought it was the best decision APS could have made under extremely difficult circumstances at the time. It was so very clear how completely unprepared APS would have been to open up in fall of 2020. No screaming from me. The people who were calling for opening schools back in 20-21 were just unhinged.

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Anonymous wrote:My kids have been at N Arlington schools (elementary and middle) at peak overcrowding. Trailers for sure. But none of the other things you mention were an issue. Anyway, if it gets that bad they can put Nottingham back in action as a neighbor hood school.


You are wrong about this. Kids have to eat lunch at like ten now at our North Arlington elementary (and middle) schools. Cafeteria cannot accommodate.
And school is not overcrowded because everyone pulled their kid for private.

I don’t hate that trailers although I think it’s hilarious that we have kids in overcrowded schools and trailers rather efficiently use under-enrolled actual school buildings.

And the fact that trailers are a long term solution in Arlington. Our school has had them for probably more than 20 years; definitely more than a decade. That cracks me up as well. Idiots at APS. Cannot plan.


Because we have limited land and budget.


No actually, right now the issue is that we have a dumb plan to close a school and put kids in trailers at other schools.

For all of you who think trailers are just fine, good luck.


You say this as though trailers are a new practice and none of us have experience with them.

I do. They were in fact fine. My kids say they were fine. Calm down.


Look at all these pro APS groupies who are perfectly fine with trailers. Did APS staff find this thread?


I thought trailers were horrible…until my kids actually had classes in them. They truly are not bad at all. My kids (and their teachers) liked it because they had some independence.

Do the people complaining about trailers actually have kids in APS?

Funniest thing I realized recently on AEM. One of the biggest APE loudmouths’ kids just started in APS in the last year or so. So much of that screaming was *before* she even had kids in APS. Some people just enjoy complaining.


Yes a lot of the APEs have very young kids or kids not even in APS. A lot moved to private. They are just really loud but they don't have much actual experience with APS or public schools.


Page 73 of this thread is FILLED with anti-APE statements. How can you say that defending a post defending the predicate for their organization — opening schools — should be blocked and off topic?

Anyone who posts on here in defense of keeping Nottingham opening or questioning the APS staff is labeled “APE.” It appears to me that attackers are using it as a proxy to mean a wealthy, entitled, probably white North Arlingtonian. Again, not in APE, but planning on joining based solely on this thread.


Why is APE relevant to this thread and why are the last dozen comments about them? Do they have an opinion on Nottingham? Or is it because they are the proxy for white entitled North Arlington? Why are people so obsessed with this group? Cue 5 more pages of hysteria.


Yes, APE released a statement to Arlnow that they have concerns about the proposal and the anti-APEs lost their mind because the APEs didn’t speak out on masks but would speak out on this. Or something.

Queue a dozen questions about what their mission does and doesn’t entail and a whole lot of stereotyping nastiness about white North Arlington parents, and here we are.


Cue the queue?

People don't like APE because they are irrational and clueless. Plus, they shat on teachers and other parents for years.


Once again, APE was right about COVID. You were wrong. Your fire breathing is what is irrational here. Get over it. You were wrong.


No, given the info at the time they were not "right".


Huge swaths of this bastion of liberal wokeness wanted it open? What are you talking about? Science and history have judged your case and you were wrong.


Careful, your MAGA is showing, Mr. APE


People who wanted the schools open are not only APE they are also MAGA? Holy cow. You are delusional.


DP. The founder and current board are MAGA.
.

I wanted the schools open. I wasnt in APE. I have nothing to do with APE. You insist I am APE. I have voted democratic for decades. The democrats got the covid issue wrong. I am increasingly disagreeing with APS as I see their planning as short sighted. I am also not a Nottingham parent.


+1. The continuing hostility to people who wanted the schools open when it was objectively the right thing to do (in hindsight) baffles me. And while I’m not the PP, I have kids, and they were in daycare at the time because keeping them home was not a viable option for our family. They were nervous times for sure. A lot of fearmongering about remote risks from keeping schools open (ie healthy kids dying), and a lot of discounting of likely risks from keeping schools closed (ie behavioral problems, speech delays, addiction/suicide).

Overreacting based on limited data and an artificially narrow set of considerations seems to be the APS way. And while I hate how MAGA politicized this thing initially, the Left certainly did its part in locking it in. We have to recognize how we went wrong if we ever hope to do better in future.


Well said. My opinion of Arlington as a whole has been impacted by this. We are less rationale then I thought we were. Objectively, APS made a bad call. For lots of reasons. Some of which were valid. But still, objectively it was a bad call. I honestly can't believe how many in APS still can't or won't see that. It's bizarre. (And yes, I realize I will never change any of your minds.)


You know the saying hindsight is 20/20? I think that applies here. APS wasn’t some weird outlier. All the area schools followed the same protocol. You just don’t live there, so I guess you didn’t notice? Of the DMV districts, APS was one of the smallest, so we weren’t the ones calling this shot when the area schools all decided to do the same thing. Move on, FFS. It’s more damaging to your psyche not to put it behind you than whatever damage the closures caused. It was a once in a lifetime event and we all did the best we could with the information we had. As always, some decisions weren’t the right ones in hindsight, but such is life. And that decision has absolutely no bearing on whether or not Nottingham should remain open now that the area is underenrolled.
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Anonymous wrote:My kids have been at N Arlington schools (elementary and middle) at peak overcrowding. Trailers for sure. But none of the other things you mention were an issue. Anyway, if it gets that bad they can put Nottingham back in action as a neighbor hood school.


You are wrong about this. Kids have to eat lunch at like ten now at our North Arlington elementary (and middle) schools. Cafeteria cannot accommodate.
And school is not overcrowded because everyone pulled their kid for private.

I don’t hate that trailers although I think it’s hilarious that we have kids in overcrowded schools and trailers rather efficiently use under-enrolled actual school buildings.

And the fact that trailers are a long term solution in Arlington. Our school has had them for probably more than 20 years; definitely more than a decade. That cracks me up as well. Idiots at APS. Cannot plan.


Because we have limited land and budget.


No actually, right now the issue is that we have a dumb plan to close a school and put kids in trailers at other schools.

For all of you who think trailers are just fine, good luck.


You say this as though trailers are a new practice and none of us have experience with them.

I do. They were in fact fine. My kids say they were fine. Calm down.


Look at all these pro APS groupies who are perfectly fine with trailers. Did APS staff find this thread?


I thought trailers were horrible…until my kids actually had classes in them. They truly are not bad at all. My kids (and their teachers) liked it because they had some independence.

Do the people complaining about trailers actually have kids in APS?

Funniest thing I realized recently on AEM. One of the biggest APE loudmouths’ kids just started in APS in the last year or so. So much of that screaming was *before* she even had kids in APS. Some people just enjoy complaining.


Yes a lot of the APEs have very young kids or kids not even in APS. A lot moved to private. They are just really loud but they don't have much actual experience with APS or public schools.


Page 73 of this thread is FILLED with anti-APE statements. How can you say that defending a post defending the predicate for their organization — opening schools — should be blocked and off topic?

Anyone who posts on here in defense of keeping Nottingham opening or questioning the APS staff is labeled “APE.” It appears to me that attackers are using it as a proxy to mean a wealthy, entitled, probably white North Arlingtonian. Again, not in APE, but planning on joining based solely on this thread.


Why is APE relevant to this thread and why are the last dozen comments about them? Do they have an opinion on Nottingham? Or is it because they are the proxy for white entitled North Arlington? Why are people so obsessed with this group? Cue 5 more pages of hysteria.


Yes, APE released a statement to Arlnow that they have concerns about the proposal and the anti-APEs lost their mind because the APEs didn’t speak out on masks but would speak out on this. Or something.

Queue a dozen questions about what their mission does and doesn’t entail and a whole lot of stereotyping nastiness about white North Arlington parents, and here we are.


Cue the queue?

People don't like APE because they are irrational and clueless. Plus, they shat on teachers and other parents for years.


Once again, APE was right about COVID. You were wrong. Your fire breathing is what is irrational here. Get over it. You were wrong.


No, given the info at the time they were not "right".


Huge swaths of this bastion of liberal wokeness wanted it open? What are you talking about? Science and history have judged your case and you were wrong.


Careful, your MAGA is showing, Mr. APE


People who wanted the schools open are not only APE they are also MAGA? Holy cow. You are delusional.


DP. The founder and current board are MAGA.
.

I wanted the schools open. I wasnt in APE. I have nothing to do with APE. You insist I am APE. I have voted democratic for decades. The democrats got the covid issue wrong. I am increasingly disagreeing with APS as I see their planning as short sighted. I am also not a Nottingham parent.


+1. The continuing hostility to people who wanted the schools open when it was objectively the right thing to do (in hindsight) baffles me. And while I’m not the PP, I have kids, and they were in daycare at the time because keeping them home was not a viable option for our family. They were nervous times for sure. A lot of fearmongering about remote risks from keeping schools open (ie healthy kids dying), and a lot of discounting of likely risks from keeping schools closed (ie behavioral problems, speech delays, addiction/suicide).

Overreacting based on limited data and an artificially narrow set of considerations seems to be the APS way. And while I hate how MAGA politicized this thing initially, the Left certainly did its part in locking it in. We have to recognize how we went wrong if we ever hope to do better in future.


I remember the fearmongering and irrational screaming about virtual school, and total denialism of the risks of Covid.


+1

It was nuts.
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Anonymous wrote:My kids have been at N Arlington schools (elementary and middle) at peak overcrowding. Trailers for sure. But none of the other things you mention were an issue. Anyway, if it gets that bad they can put Nottingham back in action as a neighbor hood school.


You are wrong about this. Kids have to eat lunch at like ten now at our North Arlington elementary (and middle) schools. Cafeteria cannot accommodate.
And school is not overcrowded because everyone pulled their kid for private.

I don’t hate that trailers although I think it’s hilarious that we have kids in overcrowded schools and trailers rather efficiently use under-enrolled actual school buildings.

And the fact that trailers are a long term solution in Arlington. Our school has had them for probably more than 20 years; definitely more than a decade. That cracks me up as well. Idiots at APS. Cannot plan.


Because we have limited land and budget.


No actually, right now the issue is that we have a dumb plan to close a school and put kids in trailers at other schools.

For all of you who think trailers are just fine, good luck.


You say this as though trailers are a new practice and none of us have experience with them.

I do. They were in fact fine. My kids say they were fine. Calm down.


Look at all these pro APS groupies who are perfectly fine with trailers. Did APS staff find this thread?


I thought trailers were horrible…until my kids actually had classes in them. They truly are not bad at all. My kids (and their teachers) liked it because they had some independence.

Do the people complaining about trailers actually have kids in APS?

Funniest thing I realized recently on AEM. One of the biggest APE loudmouths’ kids just started in APS in the last year or so. So much of that screaming was *before* she even had kids in APS. Some people just enjoy complaining.


Yes a lot of the APEs have very young kids or kids not even in APS. A lot moved to private. They are just really loud but they don't have much actual experience with APS or public schools.


Page 73 of this thread is FILLED with anti-APE statements. How can you say that defending a post defending the predicate for their organization — opening schools — should be blocked and off topic?

Anyone who posts on here in defense of keeping Nottingham opening or questioning the APS staff is labeled “APE.” It appears to me that attackers are using it as a proxy to mean a wealthy, entitled, probably white North Arlingtonian. Again, not in APE, but planning on joining based solely on this thread.


Why is APE relevant to this thread and why are the last dozen comments about them? Do they have an opinion on Nottingham? Or is it because they are the proxy for white entitled North Arlington? Why are people so obsessed with this group? Cue 5 more pages of hysteria.


Yes, APE released a statement to Arlnow that they have concerns about the proposal and the anti-APEs lost their mind because the APEs didn’t speak out on masks but would speak out on this. Or something.

Queue a dozen questions about what their mission does and doesn’t entail and a whole lot of stereotyping nastiness about white North Arlington parents, and here we are.


Cue the queue?

People don't like APE because they are irrational and clueless. Plus, they shat on teachers and other parents for years.


Once again, APE was right about COVID. You were wrong. Your fire breathing is what is irrational here. Get over it. You were wrong.


No, given the info at the time they were not "right".


Huge swaths of this bastion of liberal wokeness wanted it open? What are you talking about? Science and history have judged your case and you were wrong.


Careful, your MAGA is showing, Mr. APE


People who wanted the schools open are not only APE they are also MAGA? Holy cow. You are delusional.


DP. The founder and current board are MAGA.
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I wanted the schools open. I wasnt in APE. I have nothing to do with APE. You insist I am APE. I have voted democratic for decades. The democrats got the covid issue wrong. I am increasingly disagreeing with APS as I see their planning as short sighted. I am also not a Nottingham parent.


+1. The continuing hostility to people who wanted the schools open when it was objectively the right thing to do (in hindsight) baffles me. And while I’m not the PP, I have kids, and they were in daycare at the time because keeping them home was not a viable option for our family. They were nervous times for sure. A lot of fearmongering about remote risks from keeping schools open (ie healthy kids dying), and a lot of discounting of likely risks from keeping schools closed (ie behavioral problems, speech delays, addiction/suicide).

Overreacting based on limited data and an artificially narrow set of considerations seems to be the APS way. And while I hate how MAGA politicized this thing initially, the Left certainly did its part in locking it in. We have to recognize how we went wrong if we ever hope to do better in future.


I remember the fearmongering and irrational screaming about virtual school, and total denialism of the risks of Covid.


Only people without children would say: “irrational screaming about virtual school.”


People's opinions on this also depend on the age of their child at the time. I had a kid who was sent home in K and did 1st virtually. Virtual school was not developmentally appropriate for that age group. It was obvious and predictable at the time that it was a disaster. VDH guidelines for schools said kids in that age group should be prioritized and brought in for in-person instruction and whatever "alert" stage we were at during that school year (I have blessedly forgotten the lingo and terms), VDH guidance (which followed CDC guidance) was to teach those youngest kids in-person. APS and other NoVA school districts didn't do it. I believe they didn't do it because their teachers were going to revolt about it and they are in a tight labor market for teachers.

My child is now a rising 4th grader and I have 2 older kids who had normal schooling during those years. You can 100 percent see with this cohort that it was damaging to them. When it comes to reading skills, it's pretty hard to catch up after 3rd grade. There is a lot of research and evidence on this and the impact on this cohort of kids. At this point, it's facts.

At a minimum, not bringing in special education kids and the youngest kids during that time period was wrong. It was wrong then and we knew it and it happened anyway.

I don't think it's appropriate to whitewash this or pretend like it didn't happen.
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Anonymous wrote:My kids have been at N Arlington schools (elementary and middle) at peak overcrowding. Trailers for sure. But none of the other things you mention were an issue. Anyway, if it gets that bad they can put Nottingham back in action as a neighbor hood school.


You are wrong about this. Kids have to eat lunch at like ten now at our North Arlington elementary (and middle) schools. Cafeteria cannot accommodate.
And school is not overcrowded because everyone pulled their kid for private.

I don’t hate that trailers although I think it’s hilarious that we have kids in overcrowded schools and trailers rather efficiently use under-enrolled actual school buildings.

And the fact that trailers are a long term solution in Arlington. Our school has had them for probably more than 20 years; definitely more than a decade. That cracks me up as well. Idiots at APS. Cannot plan.


Because we have limited land and budget.


No actually, right now the issue is that we have a dumb plan to close a school and put kids in trailers at other schools.

For all of you who think trailers are just fine, good luck.


You say this as though trailers are a new practice and none of us have experience with them.

I do. They were in fact fine. My kids say they were fine. Calm down.


Look at all these pro APS groupies who are perfectly fine with trailers. Did APS staff find this thread?


I thought trailers were horrible…until my kids actually had classes in them. They truly are not bad at all. My kids (and their teachers) liked it because they had some independence.

Do the people complaining about trailers actually have kids in APS?

Funniest thing I realized recently on AEM. One of the biggest APE loudmouths’ kids just started in APS in the last year or so. So much of that screaming was *before* she even had kids in APS. Some people just enjoy complaining.


Yes a lot of the APEs have very young kids or kids not even in APS. A lot moved to private. They are just really loud but they don't have much actual experience with APS or public schools.


Page 73 of this thread is FILLED with anti-APE statements. How can you say that defending a post defending the predicate for their organization — opening schools — should be blocked and off topic?

Anyone who posts on here in defense of keeping Nottingham opening or questioning the APS staff is labeled “APE.” It appears to me that attackers are using it as a proxy to mean a wealthy, entitled, probably white North Arlingtonian. Again, not in APE, but planning on joining based solely on this thread.


Why is APE relevant to this thread and why are the last dozen comments about them? Do they have an opinion on Nottingham? Or is it because they are the proxy for white entitled North Arlington? Why are people so obsessed with this group? Cue 5 more pages of hysteria.


Yes, APE released a statement to Arlnow that they have concerns about the proposal and the anti-APEs lost their mind because the APEs didn’t speak out on masks but would speak out on this. Or something.

Queue a dozen questions about what their mission does and doesn’t entail and a whole lot of stereotyping nastiness about white North Arlington parents, and here we are.


Cue the queue?

People don't like APE because they are irrational and clueless. Plus, they shat on teachers and other parents for years.


Once again, APE was right about COVID. You were wrong. Your fire breathing is what is irrational here. Get over it. You were wrong.


No, given the info at the time they were not "right".


Huge swaths of this bastion of liberal wokeness wanted it open? What are you talking about? Science and history have judged your case and you were wrong.


Careful, your MAGA is showing, Mr. APE


People who wanted the schools open are not only APE they are also MAGA? Holy cow. You are delusional.


DP. The founder and current board are MAGA.
.

I wanted the schools open. I wasnt in APE. I have nothing to do with APE. You insist I am APE. I have voted democratic for decades. The democrats got the covid issue wrong. I am increasingly disagreeing with APS as I see their planning as short sighted. I am also not a Nottingham parent.


+1. The continuing hostility to people who wanted the schools open when it was objectively the right thing to do (in hindsight) baffles me. And while I’m not the PP, I have kids, and they were in daycare at the time because keeping them home was not a viable option for our family. They were nervous times for sure. A lot of fearmongering about remote risks from keeping schools open (ie healthy kids dying), and a lot of discounting of likely risks from keeping schools closed (ie behavioral problems, speech delays, addiction/suicide).

Overreacting based on limited data and an artificially narrow set of considerations seems to be the APS way. And while I hate how MAGA politicized this thing initially, the Left certainly did its part in locking it in. We have to recognize how we went wrong if we ever hope to do better in future.


I remember the fearmongering and irrational screaming about virtual school, and total denialism of the risks of Covid.


Only people without children would say: “irrational screaming about virtual school.”


Nope, try again. I have two kids and both were in virtual school in APS. It was not easy or good for either one of them, for different reasons, so we were not fans. Even so, I thought it was the best decision APS could have made under extremely difficult circumstances at the time. It was so very clear how completely unprepared APS would have been to open up in fall of 2020. No screaming from me. The people who were calling for opening schools back in 20-21 were just unhinged.



Plus, the way they treated teachers (during virtual class!) and other parents was inexcusable.
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Anonymous wrote:My kids have been at N Arlington schools (elementary and middle) at peak overcrowding. Trailers for sure. But none of the other things you mention were an issue. Anyway, if it gets that bad they can put Nottingham back in action as a neighbor hood school.


You are wrong about this. Kids have to eat lunch at like ten now at our North Arlington elementary (and middle) schools. Cafeteria cannot accommodate.
And school is not overcrowded because everyone pulled their kid for private.

I don’t hate that trailers although I think it’s hilarious that we have kids in overcrowded schools and trailers rather efficiently use under-enrolled actual school buildings.

And the fact that trailers are a long term solution in Arlington. Our school has had them for probably more than 20 years; definitely more than a decade. That cracks me up as well. Idiots at APS. Cannot plan.


Because we have limited land and budget.


No actually, right now the issue is that we have a dumb plan to close a school and put kids in trailers at other schools.

For all of you who think trailers are just fine, good luck.


You say this as though trailers are a new practice and none of us have experience with them.

I do. They were in fact fine. My kids say they were fine. Calm down.


Look at all these pro APS groupies who are perfectly fine with trailers. Did APS staff find this thread?


I thought trailers were horrible…until my kids actually had classes in them. They truly are not bad at all. My kids (and their teachers) liked it because they had some independence.

Do the people complaining about trailers actually have kids in APS?

Funniest thing I realized recently on AEM. One of the biggest APE loudmouths’ kids just started in APS in the last year or so. So much of that screaming was *before* she even had kids in APS. Some people just enjoy complaining.


Yes a lot of the APEs have very young kids or kids not even in APS. A lot moved to private. They are just really loud but they don't have much actual experience with APS or public schools.


Page 73 of this thread is FILLED with anti-APE statements. How can you say that defending a post defending the predicate for their organization — opening schools — should be blocked and off topic?

Anyone who posts on here in defense of keeping Nottingham opening or questioning the APS staff is labeled “APE.” It appears to me that attackers are using it as a proxy to mean a wealthy, entitled, probably white North Arlingtonian. Again, not in APE, but planning on joining based solely on this thread.


Why is APE relevant to this thread and why are the last dozen comments about them? Do they have an opinion on Nottingham? Or is it because they are the proxy for white entitled North Arlington? Why are people so obsessed with this group? Cue 5 more pages of hysteria.


Yes, APE released a statement to Arlnow that they have concerns about the proposal and the anti-APEs lost their mind because the APEs didn’t speak out on masks but would speak out on this. Or something.

Queue a dozen questions about what their mission does and doesn’t entail and a whole lot of stereotyping nastiness about white North Arlington parents, and here we are.


Cue the queue?

People don't like APE because they are irrational and clueless. Plus, they shat on teachers and other parents for years.


Once again, APE was right about COVID. You were wrong. Your fire breathing is what is irrational here. Get over it. You were wrong.


No, given the info at the time they were not "right".


Huge swaths of this bastion of liberal wokeness wanted it open? What are you talking about? Science and history have judged your case and you were wrong.


Careful, your MAGA is showing, Mr. APE


People who wanted the schools open are not only APE they are also MAGA? Holy cow. You are delusional.


DP. The founder and current board are MAGA.
.

I wanted the schools open. I wasnt in APE. I have nothing to do with APE. You insist I am APE. I have voted democratic for decades. The democrats got the covid issue wrong. I am increasingly disagreeing with APS as I see their planning as short sighted. I am also not a Nottingham parent.


+1. The continuing hostility to people who wanted the schools open when it was objectively the right thing to do (in hindsight) baffles me. And while I’m not the PP, I have kids, and they were in daycare at the time because keeping them home was not a viable option for our family. They were nervous times for sure. A lot of fearmongering about remote risks from keeping schools open (ie healthy kids dying), and a lot of discounting of likely risks from keeping schools closed (ie behavioral problems, speech delays, addiction/suicide).

Overreacting based on limited data and an artificially narrow set of considerations seems to be the APS way. And while I hate how MAGA politicized this thing initially, the Left certainly did its part in locking it in. We have to recognize how we went wrong if we ever hope to do better in future.


I remember the fearmongering and irrational screaming about virtual school, and total denialism of the risks of Covid.


Only people without children would say: “irrational screaming about virtual school.”


Nope, try again. I have two kids and both were in virtual school in APS. It was not easy or good for either one of them, for different reasons, so we were not fans. Even so, I thought it was the best decision APS could have made under extremely difficult circumstances at the time. It was so very clear how completely unprepared APS would have been to open up in fall of 2020. No screaming from me. The people who were calling for opening schools back in 20-21 were just unhinged.



OMG I’m sure I know you because you are the only person in the universe who says this. You also like spending all day with your only child, explaining the world to them and this was a little gift for you right?

Learning loss from “virtual” school is so well documented now both in Arlington and nationally that most intelligent people shut up. Putting aside, the social and emotional harms which are equally well documented on not only children but also parents.
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Anonymous wrote:My kids have been at N Arlington schools (elementary and middle) at peak overcrowding. Trailers for sure. But none of the other things you mention were an issue. Anyway, if it gets that bad they can put Nottingham back in action as a neighbor hood school.


You are wrong about this. Kids have to eat lunch at like ten now at our North Arlington elementary (and middle) schools. Cafeteria cannot accommodate.
And school is not overcrowded because everyone pulled their kid for private.

I don’t hate that trailers although I think it’s hilarious that we have kids in overcrowded schools and trailers rather efficiently use under-enrolled actual school buildings.

And the fact that trailers are a long term solution in Arlington. Our school has had them for probably more than 20 years; definitely more than a decade. That cracks me up as well. Idiots at APS. Cannot plan.


Because we have limited land and budget.


No actually, right now the issue is that we have a dumb plan to close a school and put kids in trailers at other schools.

For all of you who think trailers are just fine, good luck.


You say this as though trailers are a new practice and none of us have experience with them.

I do. They were in fact fine. My kids say they were fine. Calm down.


Look at all these pro APS groupies who are perfectly fine with trailers. Did APS staff find this thread?


I thought trailers were horrible…until my kids actually had classes in them. They truly are not bad at all. My kids (and their teachers) liked it because they had some independence.

Do the people complaining about trailers actually have kids in APS?

Funniest thing I realized recently on AEM. One of the biggest APE loudmouths’ kids just started in APS in the last year or so. So much of that screaming was *before* she even had kids in APS. Some people just enjoy complaining.


Yes a lot of the APEs have very young kids or kids not even in APS. A lot moved to private. They are just really loud but they don't have much actual experience with APS or public schools.


Page 73 of this thread is FILLED with anti-APE statements. How can you say that defending a post defending the predicate for their organization — opening schools — should be blocked and off topic?

Anyone who posts on here in defense of keeping Nottingham opening or questioning the APS staff is labeled “APE.” It appears to me that attackers are using it as a proxy to mean a wealthy, entitled, probably white North Arlingtonian. Again, not in APE, but planning on joining based solely on this thread.


Why is APE relevant to this thread and why are the last dozen comments about them? Do they have an opinion on Nottingham? Or is it because they are the proxy for white entitled North Arlington? Why are people so obsessed with this group? Cue 5 more pages of hysteria.


Yes, APE released a statement to Arlnow that they have concerns about the proposal and the anti-APEs lost their mind because the APEs didn’t speak out on masks but would speak out on this. Or something.

Queue a dozen questions about what their mission does and doesn’t entail and a whole lot of stereotyping nastiness about white North Arlington parents, and here we are.


Cue the queue?

People don't like APE because they are irrational and clueless. Plus, they shat on teachers and other parents for years.


Once again, APE was right about COVID. You were wrong. Your fire breathing is what is irrational here. Get over it. You were wrong.


No, given the info at the time they were not "right".


Huge swaths of this bastion of liberal wokeness wanted it open? What are you talking about? Science and history have judged your case and you were wrong.


Careful, your MAGA is showing, Mr. APE


People who wanted the schools open are not only APE they are also MAGA? Holy cow. You are delusional.


DP. The founder and current board are MAGA.
.

I wanted the schools open. I wasnt in APE. I have nothing to do with APE. You insist I am APE. I have voted democratic for decades. The democrats got the covid issue wrong. I am increasingly disagreeing with APS as I see their planning as short sighted. I am also not a Nottingham parent.


+1. The continuing hostility to people who wanted the schools open when it was objectively the right thing to do (in hindsight) baffles me. And while I’m not the PP, I have kids, and they were in daycare at the time because keeping them home was not a viable option for our family. They were nervous times for sure. A lot of fearmongering about remote risks from keeping schools open (ie healthy kids dying), and a lot of discounting of likely risks from keeping schools closed (ie behavioral problems, speech delays, addiction/suicide).

Overreacting based on limited data and an artificially narrow set of considerations seems to be the APS way. And while I hate how MAGA politicized this thing initially, the Left certainly did its part in locking it in. We have to recognize how we went wrong if we ever hope to do better in future.


Well said. My opinion of Arlington as a whole has been impacted by this. We are less rationale then I thought we were. Objectively, APS made a bad call. For lots of reasons. Some of which were valid. But still, objectively it was a bad call. I honestly can't believe how many in APS still can't or won't see that. It's bizarre. (And yes, I realize I will never change any of your minds.)


You know the saying hindsight is 20/20? I think that applies here. APS wasn’t some weird outlier. All the area schools followed the same protocol. You just don’t live there, so I guess you didn’t notice? Of the DMV districts, APS was one of the smallest, so we weren’t the ones calling this shot when the area schools all decided to do the same thing. Move on, FFS. It’s more damaging to your psyche not to put it behind you than whatever damage the closures caused. It was a once in a lifetime event and we all did the best we could with the information we had. As always, some decisions weren’t the right ones in hindsight, but such is life. And that decision has absolutely no bearing on whether or not Nottingham should remain open now that the area is underenrolled.


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Anonymous wrote:My kids have been at N Arlington schools (elementary and middle) at peak overcrowding. Trailers for sure. But none of the other things you mention were an issue. Anyway, if it gets that bad they can put Nottingham back in action as a neighbor hood school.


You are wrong about this. Kids have to eat lunch at like ten now at our North Arlington elementary (and middle) schools. Cafeteria cannot accommodate.
And school is not overcrowded because everyone pulled their kid for private.

I don’t hate that trailers although I think it’s hilarious that we have kids in overcrowded schools and trailers rather efficiently use under-enrolled actual school buildings.

And the fact that trailers are a long term solution in Arlington. Our school has had them for probably more than 20 years; definitely more than a decade. That cracks me up as well. Idiots at APS. Cannot plan.


Because we have limited land and budget.


No actually, right now the issue is that we have a dumb plan to close a school and put kids in trailers at other schools.

For all of you who think trailers are just fine, good luck.


You say this as though trailers are a new practice and none of us have experience with them.

I do. They were in fact fine. My kids say they were fine. Calm down.


Look at all these pro APS groupies who are perfectly fine with trailers. Did APS staff find this thread?


I thought trailers were horrible…until my kids actually had classes in them. They truly are not bad at all. My kids (and their teachers) liked it because they had some independence.

Do the people complaining about trailers actually have kids in APS?

Funniest thing I realized recently on AEM. One of the biggest APE loudmouths’ kids just started in APS in the last year or so. So much of that screaming was *before* she even had kids in APS. Some people just enjoy complaining.


Yes a lot of the APEs have very young kids or kids not even in APS. A lot moved to private. They are just really loud but they don't have much actual experience with APS or public schools.


Page 73 of this thread is FILLED with anti-APE statements. How can you say that defending a post defending the predicate for their organization — opening schools — should be blocked and off topic?

Anyone who posts on here in defense of keeping Nottingham opening or questioning the APS staff is labeled “APE.” It appears to me that attackers are using it as a proxy to mean a wealthy, entitled, probably white North Arlingtonian. Again, not in APE, but planning on joining based solely on this thread.


Why is APE relevant to this thread and why are the last dozen comments about them? Do they have an opinion on Nottingham? Or is it because they are the proxy for white entitled North Arlington? Why are people so obsessed with this group? Cue 5 more pages of hysteria.


Yes, APE released a statement to Arlnow that they have concerns about the proposal and the anti-APEs lost their mind because the APEs didn’t speak out on masks but would speak out on this. Or something.

Queue a dozen questions about what their mission does and doesn’t entail and a whole lot of stereotyping nastiness about white North Arlington parents, and here we are.


Cue the queue?

People don't like APE because they are irrational and clueless. Plus, they shat on teachers and other parents for years.


Once again, APE was right about COVID. You were wrong. Your fire breathing is what is irrational here. Get over it. You were wrong.


No, given the info at the time they were not "right".


Huge swaths of this bastion of liberal wokeness wanted it open? What are you talking about? Science and history have judged your case and you were wrong.


Careful, your MAGA is showing, Mr. APE


People who wanted the schools open are not only APE they are also MAGA? Holy cow. You are delusional.


DP. The founder and current board are MAGA.
.

I wanted the schools open. I wasnt in APE. I have nothing to do with APE. You insist I am APE. I have voted democratic for decades. The democrats got the covid issue wrong. I am increasingly disagreeing with APS as I see their planning as short sighted. I am also not a Nottingham parent.


+1. The continuing hostility to people who wanted the schools open when it was objectively the right thing to do (in hindsight) baffles me. And while I’m not the PP, I have kids, and they were in daycare at the time because keeping them home was not a viable option for our family. They were nervous times for sure. A lot of fearmongering about remote risks from keeping schools open (ie healthy kids dying), and a lot of discounting of likely risks from keeping schools closed (ie behavioral problems, speech delays, addiction/suicide).

Overreacting based on limited data and an artificially narrow set of considerations seems to be the APS way. And while I hate how MAGA politicized this thing initially, the Left certainly did its part in locking it in. We have to recognize how we went wrong if we ever hope to do better in future.


Well said. My opinion of Arlington as a whole has been impacted by this. We are less rationale then I thought we were. Objectively, APS made a bad call. For lots of reasons. Some of which were valid. But still, objectively it was a bad call. I honestly can't believe how many in APS still can't or won't see that. It's bizarre. (And yes, I realize I will never change any of your minds.)


You know the saying hindsight is 20/20? I think that applies here. APS wasn’t some weird outlier. All the area schools followed the same protocol. You just don’t live there, so I guess you didn’t notice? Of the DMV districts, APS was one of the smallest, so we weren’t the ones calling this shot when the area schools all decided to do the same thing. Move on, FFS. It’s more damaging to your psyche not to put it behind you than whatever damage the closures caused. It was a once in a lifetime event and we all did the best we could with the information we had. As always, some decisions weren’t the right ones in hindsight, but such is life. And that decision has absolutely no bearing on whether or not Nottingham should remain open now that the area is underenrolled.


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Anonymous wrote:My kids have been at N Arlington schools (elementary and middle) at peak overcrowding. Trailers for sure. But none of the other things you mention were an issue. Anyway, if it gets that bad they can put Nottingham back in action as a neighbor hood school.


You are wrong about this. Kids have to eat lunch at like ten now at our North Arlington elementary (and middle) schools. Cafeteria cannot accommodate.
And school is not overcrowded because everyone pulled their kid for private.

I don’t hate that trailers although I think it’s hilarious that we have kids in overcrowded schools and trailers rather efficiently use under-enrolled actual school buildings.

And the fact that trailers are a long term solution in Arlington. Our school has had them for probably more than 20 years; definitely more than a decade. That cracks me up as well. Idiots at APS. Cannot plan.


Because we have limited land and budget. :roll:


No actually, right now the issue is that we have a dumb plan to close a school and put kids in trailers at other schools.

For all of you who think trailers are just fine, good luck.


You say this as though trailers are a new practice and none of us have experience with them.

I do. They were in fact fine. My kids say they were fine. Calm down.


Look at all these pro APS groupies who are perfectly fine with trailers. Did APS staff find this thread?


I thought trailers were horrible…until my kids actually had classes in them. They truly are not bad at all. My kids (and their teachers) liked it because they had some independence.

Do the people complaining about trailers actually have kids in APS?

Funniest thing I realized recently on AEM. One of the biggest APE loudmouths’ kids just started in APS in the last year or so. So much of that screaming was *before* she even had kids in APS. Some people just enjoy complaining.


Yes a lot of the APEs have very young kids or kids not even in APS. A lot moved to private. They are just really loud but they don't have much actual experience with APS or public schools.


Page 73 of this thread is FILLED with anti-APE statements. How can you say that defending a post defending the predicate for their organization — opening schools — should be blocked and off topic?

Anyone who posts on here in defense of keeping Nottingham opening or questioning the APS staff is labeled “APE.” It appears to me that attackers are using it as a proxy to mean a wealthy, entitled, probably white North Arlingtonian. Again, not in APE, but planning on joining based solely on this thread.


Why is APE relevant to this thread and why are the last dozen comments about them? Do they have an opinion on Nottingham? Or is it because they are the proxy for white entitled North Arlington? Why are people so obsessed with this group? Cue 5 more pages of hysteria.


Yes, APE released a statement to Arlnow that they have concerns about the proposal and the anti-APEs lost their mind because the APEs didn’t speak out on masks but would speak out on this. Or something.

Queue a dozen questions about what their mission does and doesn’t entail and a whole lot of stereotyping nastiness about white North Arlington parents, and here we are.


Cue the queue?

People don't like APE because they are irrational and clueless. Plus, they shat on teachers and other parents for years.


Once again, APE was right about COVID. You were wrong. Your fire breathing is what is irrational here. Get over it. You were wrong.


No, given the info at the time they were not "right". :roll:


Huge swaths of this bastion of liberal wokeness wanted it open? What are you talking about? Science and history have judged your case and you were wrong.


Careful, your MAGA is showing, Mr. APE


People who wanted the schools open are not only APE they are also MAGA? Holy cow. You are delusional.


DP. The founder and current board are MAGA.
.

I wanted the schools open. I wasnt in APE. I have nothing to do with APE. You insist I am APE. I have voted democratic for decades. The democrats got the covid issue wrong. I am increasingly disagreeing with APS as I see their planning as short sighted. I am also not a Nottingham parent.


+1. The continuing hostility to people who wanted the schools open when it was objectively the right thing to do (in hindsight) baffles me. And while I’m not the PP, I have kids, and they were in daycare at the time because keeping them home was not a viable option for our family. They were nervous times for sure. A lot of fearmongering about remote risks from keeping schools open (ie healthy kids dying), and a lot of discounting of likely risks from keeping schools closed (ie behavioral problems, speech delays, addiction/suicide).

Overreacting based on limited data and an artificially narrow set of considerations seems to be the APS way. And while I hate how MAGA politicized this thing initially, the Left certainly did its part in locking it in. We have to recognize how we went wrong if we ever hope to do better in future.


I remember the fearmongering and irrational screaming about virtual school, and total denialism of the risks of Covid.


Only people without children would say: “irrational screaming about virtual school.”


Nope, try again. I have two kids and both were in virtual school in APS. It was not easy or good for either one of them, for different reasons, so we were not fans. Even so, I thought it was the best decision APS could have made under extremely difficult circumstances at the time. It was so very clear how completely unprepared APS would have been to open up in fall of 2020. No screaming from me. The people who were calling for opening schools back in 20-21 were just unhinged.



OMG I’m sure I know you because you are the only person in the universe who says this. You also like spending all day with your only child, explaining the world to them and this was a little gift for you right?

Learning loss from “virtual” school is so well documented now both in Arlington and nationally that most intelligent people shut up. Putting aside, the social and emotional harms which are equally well documented on not only children but also parents.


This posted to the wrong reply. It was for crazy lady who waxed poetic about her time with her kid during virtual. Apologies to this poster.
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Anonymous wrote:My kids have been at N Arlington schools (elementary and middle) at peak overcrowding. Trailers for sure. But none of the other things you mention were an issue. Anyway, if it gets that bad they can put Nottingham back in action as a neighbor hood school.


You are wrong about this. Kids have to eat lunch at like ten now at our North Arlington elementary (and middle) schools. Cafeteria cannot accommodate.
And school is not overcrowded because everyone pulled their kid for private.

I don’t hate that trailers although I think it’s hilarious that we have kids in overcrowded schools and trailers rather efficiently use under-enrolled actual school buildings.

And the fact that trailers are a long term solution in Arlington. Our school has had them for probably more than 20 years; definitely more than a decade. That cracks me up as well. Idiots at APS. Cannot plan.


Because we have limited land and budget.


No actually, right now the issue is that we have a dumb plan to close a school and put kids in trailers at other schools.

For all of you who think trailers are just fine, good luck.


You say this as though trailers are a new practice and none of us have experience with them.

I do. They were in fact fine. My kids say they were fine. Calm down.


Look at all these pro APS groupies who are perfectly fine with trailers. Did APS staff find this thread?


I thought trailers were horrible…until my kids actually had classes in them. They truly are not bad at all. My kids (and their teachers) liked it because they had some independence.

Do the people complaining about trailers actually have kids in APS?

Funniest thing I realized recently on AEM. One of the biggest APE loudmouths’ kids just started in APS in the last year or so. So much of that screaming was *before* she even had kids in APS. Some people just enjoy complaining.


Yes a lot of the APEs have very young kids or kids not even in APS. A lot moved to private. They are just really loud but they don't have much actual experience with APS or public schools.


Page 73 of this thread is FILLED with anti-APE statements. How can you say that defending a post defending the predicate for their organization — opening schools — should be blocked and off topic?

Anyone who posts on here in defense of keeping Nottingham opening or questioning the APS staff is labeled “APE.” It appears to me that attackers are using it as a proxy to mean a wealthy, entitled, probably white North Arlingtonian. Again, not in APE, but planning on joining based solely on this thread.


Why is APE relevant to this thread and why are the last dozen comments about them? Do they have an opinion on Nottingham? Or is it because they are the proxy for white entitled North Arlington? Why are people so obsessed with this group? Cue 5 more pages of hysteria.


Yes, APE released a statement to Arlnow that they have concerns about the proposal and the anti-APEs lost their mind because the APEs didn’t speak out on masks but would speak out on this. Or something.

Queue a dozen questions about what their mission does and doesn’t entail and a whole lot of stereotyping nastiness about white North Arlington parents, and here we are.


Cue the queue?

People don't like APE because they are irrational and clueless. Plus, they shat on teachers and other parents for years.


Once again, APE was right about COVID. You were wrong. Your fire breathing is what is irrational here. Get over it. You were wrong.


No, given the info at the time they were not "right".


Huge swaths of this bastion of liberal wokeness wanted it open? What are you talking about? Science and history have judged your case and you were wrong.


Careful, your MAGA is showing, Mr. APE


People who wanted the schools open are not only APE they are also MAGA? Holy cow. You are delusional.


DP. The founder and current board are MAGA.
.

I wanted the schools open. I wasnt in APE. I have nothing to do with APE. You insist I am APE. I have voted democratic for decades. The democrats got the covid issue wrong. I am increasingly disagreeing with APS as I see their planning as short sighted. I am also not a Nottingham parent.


+1. The continuing hostility to people who wanted the schools open when it was objectively the right thing to do (in hindsight) baffles me. And while I’m not the PP, I have kids, and they were in daycare at the time because keeping them home was not a viable option for our family. They were nervous times for sure. A lot of fearmongering about remote risks from keeping schools open (ie healthy kids dying), and a lot of discounting of likely risks from keeping schools closed (ie behavioral problems, speech delays, addiction/suicide).

Overreacting based on limited data and an artificially narrow set of considerations seems to be the APS way. And while I hate how MAGA politicized this thing initially, the Left certainly did its part in locking it in. We have to recognize how we went wrong if we ever hope to do better in future.


Well said. My opinion of Arlington as a whole has been impacted by this. We are less rationale then I thought we were. Objectively, APS made a bad call. For lots of reasons. Some of which were valid. But still, objectively it was a bad call. I honestly can't believe how many in APS still can't or won't see that. It's bizarre. (And yes, I realize I will never change any of your minds.)


You know the saying hindsight is 20/20? I think that applies here. APS wasn’t some weird outlier. All the area schools followed the same protocol. You just don’t live there, so I guess you didn’t notice? Of the DMV districts, APS was one of the smallest, so we weren’t the ones calling this shot when the area schools all decided to do the same thing. Move on, FFS. It’s more damaging to your psyche not to put it behind you than whatever damage the closures caused. It was a once in a lifetime event and we all did the best we could with the information we had. As always, some decisions weren’t the right ones in hindsight, but such is life. And that decision has absolutely no bearing on whether or not Nottingham should remain open now that the area is underenrolled.


Exactly


No, they didn't. For certain groups of kids (K-2 and special ed), they did what was best for the adults and we knew it was bad for these kids while it was happening. What is the big deal to just say it. I'm not mad about that fact anymore. My kids are fine. Some kids are really not fine. But I think the revisionist history is shady. Just say what really happened.
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Anonymous wrote:My kids have been at N Arlington schools (elementary and middle) at peak overcrowding. Trailers for sure. But none of the other things you mention were an issue. Anyway, if it gets that bad they can put Nottingham back in action as a neighbor hood school.


You are wrong about this. Kids have to eat lunch at like ten now at our North Arlington elementary (and middle) schools. Cafeteria cannot accommodate.
And school is not overcrowded because everyone pulled their kid for private.

I don’t hate that trailers although I think it’s hilarious that we have kids in overcrowded schools and trailers rather efficiently use under-enrolled actual school buildings.

And the fact that trailers are a long term solution in Arlington. Our school has had them for probably more than 20 years; definitely more than a decade. That cracks me up as well. Idiots at APS. Cannot plan.


Because we have limited land and budget.


No actually, right now the issue is that we have a dumb plan to close a school and put kids in trailers at other schools.

For all of you who think trailers are just fine, good luck.


You say this as though trailers are a new practice and none of us have experience with them.

I do. They were in fact fine. My kids say they were fine. Calm down.


Look at all these pro APS groupies who are perfectly fine with trailers. Did APS staff find this thread?


I thought trailers were horrible…until my kids actually had classes in them. They truly are not bad at all. My kids (and their teachers) liked it because they had some independence.

Do the people complaining about trailers actually have kids in APS?

Funniest thing I realized recently on AEM. One of the biggest APE loudmouths’ kids just started in APS in the last year or so. So much of that screaming was *before* she even had kids in APS. Some people just enjoy complaining.


Yes a lot of the APEs have very young kids or kids not even in APS. A lot moved to private. They are just really loud but they don't have much actual experience with APS or public schools.


Page 73 of this thread is FILLED with anti-APE statements. How can you say that defending a post defending the predicate for their organization — opening schools — should be blocked and off topic?

Anyone who posts on here in defense of keeping Nottingham opening or questioning the APS staff is labeled “APE.” It appears to me that attackers are using it as a proxy to mean a wealthy, entitled, probably white North Arlingtonian. Again, not in APE, but planning on joining based solely on this thread.


Why is APE relevant to this thread and why are the last dozen comments about them? Do they have an opinion on Nottingham? Or is it because they are the proxy for white entitled North Arlington? Why are people so obsessed with this group? Cue 5 more pages of hysteria.


Yes, APE released a statement to Arlnow that they have concerns about the proposal and the anti-APEs lost their mind because the APEs didn’t speak out on masks but would speak out on this. Or something.

Queue a dozen questions about what their mission does and doesn’t entail and a whole lot of stereotyping nastiness about white North Arlington parents, and here we are.


Cue the queue?

People don't like APE because they are irrational and clueless. Plus, they shat on teachers and other parents for years.


Once again, APE was right about COVID. You were wrong. Your fire breathing is what is irrational here. Get over it. You were wrong.


No, given the info at the time they were not "right".


Huge swaths of this bastion of liberal wokeness wanted it open? What are you talking about? Science and history have judged your case and you were wrong.


Careful, your MAGA is showing, Mr. APE


People who wanted the schools open are not only APE they are also MAGA? Holy cow. You are delusional.


DP. The founder and current board are MAGA.
.

I wanted the schools open. I wasnt in APE. I have nothing to do with APE. You insist I am APE. I have voted democratic for decades. The democrats got the covid issue wrong. I am increasingly disagreeing with APS as I see their planning as short sighted. I am also not a Nottingham parent.


+1. The continuing hostility to people who wanted the schools open when it was objectively the right thing to do (in hindsight) baffles me. And while I’m not the PP, I have kids, and they were in daycare at the time because keeping them home was not a viable option for our family. They were nervous times for sure. A lot of fearmongering about remote risks from keeping schools open (ie healthy kids dying), and a lot of discounting of likely risks from keeping schools closed (ie behavioral problems, speech delays, addiction/suicide).

Overreacting based on limited data and an artificially narrow set of considerations seems to be the APS way. And while I hate how MAGA politicized this thing initially, the Left certainly did its part in locking it in. We have to recognize how we went wrong if we ever hope to do better in future.


Well said. My opinion of Arlington as a whole has been impacted by this. We are less rationale then I thought we were. Objectively, APS made a bad call. For lots of reasons. Some of which were valid. But still, objectively it was a bad call. I honestly can't believe how many in APS still can't or won't see that. It's bizarre. (And yes, I realize I will never change any of your minds.)


You know the saying hindsight is 20/20? I think that applies here. APS wasn’t some weird outlier. All the area schools followed the same protocol. You just don’t live there, so I guess you didn’t notice? Of the DMV districts, APS was one of the smallest, so we weren’t the ones calling this shot when the area schools all decided to do the same thing. Move on, FFS. It’s more damaging to your psyche not to put it behind you than whatever damage the closures caused. It was a once in a lifetime event and we all did the best we could with the information we had. As always, some decisions weren’t the right ones in hindsight, but such is life. And that decision has absolutely no bearing on whether or not Nottingham should remain open now that the area is underenrolled.


Exactly


Some school systems got it right.


The ones with more space, fewer kids, ability to force testing (after tests were readily available), nutter politicians who denied covid risks?

Falls Church City happened to have an entire extra building they could use to spread out. Maybe having some swing space can help with future pandemics.
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Anonymous wrote:My kids have been at N Arlington schools (elementary and middle) at peak overcrowding. Trailers for sure. But none of the other things you mention were an issue. Anyway, if it gets that bad they can put Nottingham back in action as a neighbor hood school.


You are wrong about this. Kids have to eat lunch at like ten now at our North Arlington elementary (and middle) schools. Cafeteria cannot accommodate.
And school is not overcrowded because everyone pulled their kid for private.

I don’t hate that trailers although I think it’s hilarious that we have kids in overcrowded schools and trailers rather efficiently use under-enrolled actual school buildings.

And the fact that trailers are a long term solution in Arlington. Our school has had them for probably more than 20 years; definitely more than a decade. That cracks me up as well. Idiots at APS. Cannot plan.


Because we have limited land and budget.


No actually, right now the issue is that we have a dumb plan to close a school and put kids in trailers at other schools.

For all of you who think trailers are just fine, good luck.


You say this as though trailers are a new practice and none of us have experience with them.

I do. They were in fact fine. My kids say they were fine. Calm down.


Look at all these pro APS groupies who are perfectly fine with trailers. Did APS staff find this thread?


I thought trailers were horrible…until my kids actually had classes in them. They truly are not bad at all. My kids (and their teachers) liked it because they had some independence.

Do the people complaining about trailers actually have kids in APS?

Funniest thing I realized recently on AEM. One of the biggest APE loudmouths’ kids just started in APS in the last year or so. So much of that screaming was *before* she even had kids in APS. Some people just enjoy complaining.


Yes a lot of the APEs have very young kids or kids not even in APS. A lot moved to private. They are just really loud but they don't have much actual experience with APS or public schools.


Page 73 of this thread is FILLED with anti-APE statements. How can you say that defending a post defending the predicate for their organization — opening schools — should be blocked and off topic?

Anyone who posts on here in defense of keeping Nottingham opening or questioning the APS staff is labeled “APE.” It appears to me that attackers are using it as a proxy to mean a wealthy, entitled, probably white North Arlingtonian. Again, not in APE, but planning on joining based solely on this thread.


Why is APE relevant to this thread and why are the last dozen comments about them? Do they have an opinion on Nottingham? Or is it because they are the proxy for white entitled North Arlington? Why are people so obsessed with this group? Cue 5 more pages of hysteria.


Yes, APE released a statement to Arlnow that they have concerns about the proposal and the anti-APEs lost their mind because the APEs didn’t speak out on masks but would speak out on this. Or something.

Queue a dozen questions about what their mission does and doesn’t entail and a whole lot of stereotyping nastiness about white North Arlington parents, and here we are.


Cue the queue?

People don't like APE because they are irrational and clueless. Plus, they shat on teachers and other parents for years.


Once again, APE was right about COVID. You were wrong. Your fire breathing is what is irrational here. Get over it. You were wrong.


No, given the info at the time they were not "right".


Huge swaths of this bastion of liberal wokeness wanted it open? What are you talking about? Science and history have judged your case and you were wrong.


Careful, your MAGA is showing, Mr. APE


People who wanted the schools open are not only APE they are also MAGA? Holy cow. You are delusional.


DP. The founder and current board are MAGA.
.

I wanted the schools open. I wasnt in APE. I have nothing to do with APE. You insist I am APE. I have voted democratic for decades. The democrats got the covid issue wrong. I am increasingly disagreeing with APS as I see their planning as short sighted. I am also not a Nottingham parent.


+1. The continuing hostility to people who wanted the schools open when it was objectively the right thing to do (in hindsight) baffles me. And while I’m not the PP, I have kids, and they were in daycare at the time because keeping them home was not a viable option for our family. They were nervous times for sure. A lot of fearmongering about remote risks from keeping schools open (ie healthy kids dying), and a lot of discounting of likely risks from keeping schools closed (ie behavioral problems, speech delays, addiction/suicide).

Overreacting based on limited data and an artificially narrow set of considerations seems to be the APS way. And while I hate how MAGA politicized this thing initially, the Left certainly did its part in locking it in. We have to recognize how we went wrong if we ever hope to do better in future.


Well said. My opinion of Arlington as a whole has been impacted by this. We are less rationale then I thought we were. Objectively, APS made a bad call. For lots of reasons. Some of which were valid. But still, objectively it was a bad call. I honestly can't believe how many in APS still can't or won't see that. It's bizarre. (And yes, I realize I will never change any of your minds.)


You know the saying hindsight is 20/20? I think that applies here. APS wasn’t some weird outlier. All the area schools followed the same protocol. You just don’t live there, so I guess you didn’t notice? Of the DMV districts, APS was one of the smallest, so we weren’t the ones calling this shot when the area schools all decided to do the same thing. Move on, FFS. It’s more damaging to your psyche not to put it behind you than whatever damage the closures caused. It was a once in a lifetime event and we all did the best we could with the information we had. As always, some decisions weren’t the right ones in hindsight, but such is life. And that decision has absolutely no bearing on whether or not Nottingham should remain open now that the area is underenrolled.


Exactly


No, they didn't. For certain groups of kids (K-2 and special ed), they did what was best for the adults and we knew it was bad for these kids while it was happening. What is the big deal to just say it. I'm not mad about that fact anymore. My kids are fine. Some kids are really not fine. But I think the revisionist history is shady. Just say what really happened.


+1

I am still mad that Arlington vaccinated teachers BEFORE old people and then they didn’t go back.
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Anonymous wrote:My kids have been at N Arlington schools (elementary and middle) at peak overcrowding. Trailers for sure. But none of the other things you mention were an issue. Anyway, if it gets that bad they can put Nottingham back in action as a neighbor hood school.


You are wrong about this. Kids have to eat lunch at like ten now at our North Arlington elementary (and middle) schools. Cafeteria cannot accommodate.
And school is not overcrowded because everyone pulled their kid for private.

I don’t hate that trailers although I think it’s hilarious that we have kids in overcrowded schools and trailers rather efficiently use under-enrolled actual school buildings.

And the fact that trailers are a long term solution in Arlington. Our school has had them for probably more than 20 years; definitely more than a decade. That cracks me up as well. Idiots at APS. Cannot plan.


Because we have limited land and budget.


No actually, right now the issue is that we have a dumb plan to close a school and put kids in trailers at other schools.

For all of you who think trailers are just fine, good luck.


You say this as though trailers are a new practice and none of us have experience with them.

I do. They were in fact fine. My kids say they were fine. Calm down.


Look at all these pro APS groupies who are perfectly fine with trailers. Did APS staff find this thread?


I thought trailers were horrible…until my kids actually had classes in them. They truly are not bad at all. My kids (and their teachers) liked it because they had some independence.

Do the people complaining about trailers actually have kids in APS?

Funniest thing I realized recently on AEM. One of the biggest APE loudmouths’ kids just started in APS in the last year or so. So much of that screaming was *before* she even had kids in APS. Some people just enjoy complaining.


Yes a lot of the APEs have very young kids or kids not even in APS. A lot moved to private. They are just really loud but they don't have much actual experience with APS or public schools.


Page 73 of this thread is FILLED with anti-APE statements. How can you say that defending a post defending the predicate for their organization — opening schools — should be blocked and off topic?

Anyone who posts on here in defense of keeping Nottingham opening or questioning the APS staff is labeled “APE.” It appears to me that attackers are using it as a proxy to mean a wealthy, entitled, probably white North Arlingtonian. Again, not in APE, but planning on joining based solely on this thread.


Why is APE relevant to this thread and why are the last dozen comments about them? Do they have an opinion on Nottingham? Or is it because they are the proxy for white entitled North Arlington? Why are people so obsessed with this group? Cue 5 more pages of hysteria.


Yes, APE released a statement to Arlnow that they have concerns about the proposal and the anti-APEs lost their mind because the APEs didn’t speak out on masks but would speak out on this. Or something.

Queue a dozen questions about what their mission does and doesn’t entail and a whole lot of stereotyping nastiness about white North Arlington parents, and here we are.


Cue the queue?

People don't like APE because they are irrational and clueless. Plus, they shat on teachers and other parents for years.


Once again, APE was right about COVID. You were wrong. Your fire breathing is what is irrational here. Get over it. You were wrong.


No, given the info at the time they were not "right".


Huge swaths of this bastion of liberal wokeness wanted it open? What are you talking about? Science and history have judged your case and you were wrong.


Careful, your MAGA is showing, Mr. APE


People who wanted the schools open are not only APE they are also MAGA? Holy cow. You are delusional.


DP. The founder and current board are MAGA.
.

I wanted the schools open. I wasnt in APE. I have nothing to do with APE. You insist I am APE. I have voted democratic for decades. The democrats got the covid issue wrong. I am increasingly disagreeing with APS as I see their planning as short sighted. I am also not a Nottingham parent.


+1. The continuing hostility to people who wanted the schools open when it was objectively the right thing to do (in hindsight) baffles me. And while I’m not the PP, I have kids, and they were in daycare at the time because keeping them home was not a viable option for our family. They were nervous times for sure. A lot of fearmongering about remote risks from keeping schools open (ie healthy kids dying), and a lot of discounting of likely risks from keeping schools closed (ie behavioral problems, speech delays, addiction/suicide).

Overreacting based on limited data and an artificially narrow set of considerations seems to be the APS way. And while I hate how MAGA politicized this thing initially, the Left certainly did its part in locking it in. We have to recognize how we went wrong if we ever hope to do better in future.


Well said. My opinion of Arlington as a whole has been impacted by this. We are less rationale then I thought we were. Objectively, APS made a bad call. For lots of reasons. Some of which were valid. But still, objectively it was a bad call. I honestly can't believe how many in APS still can't or won't see that. It's bizarre. (And yes, I realize I will never change any of your minds.)


You know the saying hindsight is 20/20? I think that applies here. APS wasn’t some weird outlier. All the area schools followed the same protocol. You just don’t live there, so I guess you didn’t notice? Of the DMV districts, APS was one of the smallest, so we weren’t the ones calling this shot when the area schools all decided to do the same thing. Move on, FFS. It’s more damaging to your psyche not to put it behind you than whatever damage the closures caused. It was a once in a lifetime event and we all did the best we could with the information we had. As always, some decisions weren’t the right ones in hindsight, but such is life. And that decision has absolutely no bearing on whether or not Nottingham should remain open now that the area is underenrolled.


Exactly


No, they didn't. For certain groups of kids (K-2 and special ed), they did what was best for the adults and we knew it was bad for these kids while it was happening. What is the big deal to just say it. I'm not mad about that fact anymore. My kids are fine. Some kids are really not fine. But I think the revisionist history is shady. Just say what really happened.


I'll revise: the best information - and resources - we had at the time.

They started to bring back special ed kids in late fall. They were limited by staffing - teachers with vulnerable family members or with kids from other districts at home. Vaccines were a game changer.

We were all there - it's not revisionist.
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