Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m worried about Chauvin’s safety in prison. I can’t imagine what he’s feeling tonight. (K, flame me for sympathy for the devil, whatever. I like to look at things from the other side.)

Eric Nelson looked close to tears after the verdict—his glasses were even a little foggy. I can’t imagine what he feels either.

You can worry for both of us, because I am utterly unconcerned about how Chauvin will fare in prison.

I pity Chauvin, but he had a very long time to make his choice the day he knelt on Floyd's neck and killed him, so it's more of a sadness that he did this to himself when there were so many other choices he could have made.

That's it. It was never about race, just a overly aggressive guy who I believe wanted to show off to his subordinates. On how to subdue a combative guy on drugs with a criminal history.
Chauvin had a few things in his past that should have had him weeded out. It's sad for both men that made poor choices in life.

🙄 Chauvin didn't have to think to himself "I'm going to kill this guy because he's black" for this to have been about race. The willful ignorance of people who think like you is so exhausting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m worried about Chauvin’s safety in prison. I can’t imagine what he’s feeling tonight. (K, flame me for sympathy for the devil, whatever. I like to look at things from the other side.)

Eric Nelson looked close to tears after the verdict—his glasses were even a little foggy. I can’t imagine what he feels either.

You can worry for both of us, because I am utterly unconcerned about how Chauvin will fare in prison.

I pity Chauvin, but he had a very long time to make his choice the day he knelt on Floyd's neck and killed him, so it's more of a sadness that he did this to himself when there were so many other choices he could have made.

That's it. It was never about race, just a overly aggressive guy who I believe wanted to show off to his subordinates. On how to subdue a combative guy on drugs with a criminal history.
Chauvin had a few things in his past that should have had him weeded out. It's sad for both men that made poor choices in life.

🙄 Chauvin didn't have to think to himself "I'm going to kill this guy because he's black" for this to have been about race. The willful ignorance of people who think like you is so exhausting.

The ignorance of people like you that claim racism in every case involving a cop is what's exhausting. And it continues to provide a false political narrative which isn't helpful. It also deflects from the real issues.

[Anonymous]

^Okay 12:26. Please tell us what the real issues are?

[Anonymous]

Chauvin is a murderer. That was decided in a court of law. Deal with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^Okay 12:26. Please tell us what the real issues are?

DP. I'll chime in. Police brutality. Bad practices. Guns. Poverty. Lack of opportunity and jobs in poor areas. Criminality. Lack of political will. Fear.

Insisting everything is about racist cops glosses over the real problem and real solutions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^Okay 12:26. Please tell us what the real issues are?

DP. I'll chime in. Police brutality. Bad practices. Guns. Poverty. Lack of opportunity and jobs in poor areas. Criminality. Lack of political will. Fear.

Insisting everything is about racist cops glosses over the real problem and real solutions.

95% of your list is a result of systemic racism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^Okay 12:26. Please tell us what the real issues are?

DP. I'll chime in. Police brutality. Bad practices. Guns. Poverty. Lack of opportunity and jobs in poor areas. Criminality. Lack of political will. Fear.

Insisting everything is about racist cops glosses over the real problem and real solutions.

95% of your list is a result of systemic racism.

Nope. That’s not true. And you have NO metrics to back that up.

Try going one day not being a victim.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^Okay 12:26. Please tell us what the real issues are?

DP. I'll chime in. Police brutality. Bad practices. Guns. Poverty. Lack of opportunity and jobs in poor areas. Criminality. Lack of political will. Fear.

Insisting everything is about racist cops glosses over the real problem and real solutions.

95% of your list is a result of systemic racism.

Nope. That’s not true. And you have NO metrics to back that up.

Try going one day not being a victim.

NP. That info is out there if you want to find out. Police forces in America originated as slave patrols. This bullshit that systemic racism doesn’t exist in America makes you look, at best, and at the worst, outs you as a white supremacist. Try another tack. And stop telling posters that they don’t have proof/data because they won’t do the lifting of finding it for you. That’s a form of racism, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^Okay 12:26. Please tell us what the real issues are?

DP. I'll chime in. Police brutality. Bad practices. Guns. Poverty. Lack of opportunity and jobs in poor areas. Criminality. Lack of political will. Fear.

Insisting everything is about racist cops glosses over the real problem and real solutions.

95% of your list is a result of systemic racism.

You’re glossing over again. We can’t tackle these if you do that. This will take active effort and everyone has to do their part. When you cry victim you absolve a whole demographic swath of responsibility, which is dehumanizing if not racist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^Okay 12:26. Please tell us what the real issues are?

DP. I'll chime in. Police brutality. Bad practices. Guns. Poverty. Lack of opportunity and jobs in poor areas. Criminality. Lack of political will. Fear.

Insisting everything is about racist cops glosses over the real problem and real solutions.

95% of your list is a result of systemic racism.

Nope. That’s not true. And you have NO metrics to back that up.

Try going one day not being a victim.

NP. That info is out there if you want to find out. Police forces in America originated as slave patrols. This bullshit that systemic racism doesn’t exist in America makes you look, at best, and at the worst, outs you as a white supremacist. Try another tack. And stop telling posters that they don’t have proof/data because they won’t do the lifting of finding it for you. That’s a form of racism, too.

The Carolinas were not the entire country. You don't need to act like they were.

Police are valued by everyone, all people want a police force that they can depend upon. And police forces are valuable. Look at countries south of here with no tradition of city police forces.

We can improve our police. We also need to acknowledge their value instead of talk about abolishing them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^Okay 12:26. Please tell us what the real issues are?

DP. I'll chime in. Police brutality. Bad practices. Guns. Poverty. Lack of opportunity and jobs in poor areas. Criminality. Lack of political will. Fear.

Insisting everything is about racist cops glosses over the real problem and real solutions.

95% of your list is a result of systemic racism.

Nope. That’s not true. And you have NO metrics to back that up.

Try going one day not being a victim.

NP. That info is out there if you want to find out. Police forces in America originated as slave patrols. This bullshit that systemic racism doesn’t exist in America makes you look, at best, and at the worst, outs you as a white supremacist. Try another tack. And stop telling posters that they don’t have proof/data because they won’t do the lifting of finding it for you. That’s a form of racism, too.

The Carolinas were not the entire country. You don't need to act like they were.

Police are valued by everyone, all people want a police force that they can depend upon. And police forces are valuable. Look at countries south of here with no tradition of city police forces.

We can improve our police. We also need to acknowledge their value instead of talk about abolishing them.

Uh huh. It was not just the Carolinas. The police forces in the north started to control immigrants in the 1800s

You claim to want to fix the present police force, but you refuse to acknowledge how we got here. Those things don’t work together, and make you a liar. We also know that many modern police forces have been infiltrated by white supremacists. And no, I will not do the work of finding the data for you. If you really care, look.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^Okay 12:26. Please tell us what the real issues are?

DP. I'll chime in. Police brutality. Bad practices. Guns. Poverty. Lack of opportunity and jobs in poor areas. Criminality. Lack of political will. Fear.

Insisting everything is about racist cops glosses over the real problem and real solutions.

95% of your list is a result of systemic racism.

Nope. That’s not true. And you have NO metrics to back that up.

Try going one day not being a victim.

NP. That info is out there if you want to find out. Police forces in America originated as slave patrols. This bullshit that systemic racism doesn’t exist in America makes you look, at best, and at the worst, outs you as a white supremacist. Try another tack. And stop telling posters that they don’t have proof/data because they won’t do the lifting of finding it for you. That’s a form of racism, too.

The Carolinas were not the entire country. You don't need to act like they were.

Police are valued by everyone, all people want a police force that they can depend upon. And police forces are valuable. Look at countries south of here with no tradition of city police forces.

We can improve our police. We also need to acknowledge their value instead of talk about abolishing them.

Don’t bother arguing with this perpetual victim. Anyone who doesn’t agree with them is a racist.
They are clearly unhinged.

So...police in America didn’t start as slave patrols? And me stating the truth makes me a perpetual victim and unhinged? Got it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^Okay 12:26. Please tell us what the real issues are?

DP. I'll chime in. Police brutality. Bad practices. Guns. Poverty. Lack of opportunity and jobs in poor areas. Criminality. Lack of political will. Fear.

Insisting everything is about racist cops glosses over the real problem and real solutions.

95% of your list is a result of systemic racism.

Nope. That’s not true. And you have NO metrics to back that up.

Try going one day not being a victim.

NP. That info is out there if you want to find out. Police forces in America originated as slave patrols. This bullshit that systemic racism doesn’t exist in America makes you look, at best, and at the worst, outs you as a white supremacist. Try another tack. And stop telling posters that they don’t have proof/data because they won’t do the lifting of finding it for you. That’s a form of racism, too.

The Carolinas were not the entire country. You don't need to act like they were.

Police are valued by everyone, all people want a police force that they can depend upon. And police forces are valuable. Look at countries south of here with no tradition of city police forces.

We can improve our police. We also need to acknowledge their value instead of talk about abolishing them.

Don’t bother arguing with this perpetual victim. Anyone who doesn’t agree with them is a racist.
They are clearly unhinged.

So...police in America didn’t start as slave patrols? And me stating the truth makes me a perpetual victim and unhinged? Got it.

No, not all police in the country or even a lot of police departments.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^Okay 12:26. Please tell us what the real issues are?

DP. I'll chime in. Police brutality. Bad practices. Guns. Poverty. Lack of opportunity and jobs in poor areas. Criminality. Lack of political will. Fear.

Insisting everything is about racist cops glosses over the real problem and real solutions.

95% of your list is a result of systemic racism.

+1.

Poverty / poor areas: POC have systematically been able to generate less wealth than white Americans for various reasons, including predatory mortgage practices. Escaping poor areas is harder because of lower quality education. Etc.

Police brutality: POC are systematically, to put it one way, given less “benefit of the doubt” when they encounter the police.

Fear: given the above, would you not be afraid??

The list goes on. Do you me homework.