Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic

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Anonymous wrote:My big takeaway from this thread is that the state of basic science education in this country is dire indeed. JFC.

And not just science, but just... common sense.


Sharks are mammals.

They should have just put a cable on it, connected to the mothership.

Why no GPS?

Was the selfie from a guy trapped in the sub?


WTF people? I'm hoping some of these are trolls or maybe kids posting here.

To the poster who mocked me for asking about a potential fiber optic cable tether please see the link below. It looks like this might be a possibility in the future.

https://www.uri.edu/news/2021/05/compact-deployment-system-makes-exploring-deep-seas-easier/

I did some googling and many deep sea research vessels, including some manned vessels, ARE tethered to support ships. They are built around giant winches.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people think that the recovery of the submissive will be quick? Even if they are located and are alive and with oxygen, it’s not a quick lift to get them out. It will take days to lift this up to surface.

How many people really think this will be a rescue operation? Most people know this is hopeless.

Many on this thread haven’t gotten the memo.

Many on this thread are seriously lacking in the brain cell department. Adds to the entertainment.

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Anonymous wrote:I am like addicted to this story….

As a fan of the Titanic, I am hoping for a miracle that somehow these five people are able to survive + be recovered in time.

I know the chance of this occurring is very slim at best - however until the oxygen is due to run out, for the sake of their loved ones I am hoping for the best outcome.

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What is so annoying seeing online is that one of the people in the sub, a billionaire…..has a stepson who is posting pictures online which are clearly insensitive to say the least.

One showed him attending a Blink 182 concert over the wknd while today he posted a thirst trap photo of an OnlyFans model.

It is very clear that this stepson is already counting on his upcoming inheritance. 😠

So sick.
And disgusting too.

He is being so insensitive that rapper Cardi B even made a comment about him online today.

Looking at his photo, I’d venture to guess he may be neuro divergent. I’d hesitate to go after him for not having the expected reaction. I vote for giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Cardi B doesn't require the "even" she is pretty insightful at times (not saying she always acts wisely or with decorum but she doesn't come across as an idiot or unfeeling)

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Anonymous wrote:May I ask a dumb question?

We have pics of the Titanic wreck, so clearly someone has been down there before? How did they live to tell the tale?

Many submersibles have gone down there. Even Titan has gone down before and returned.

Didn’t James Cameron go down there?

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Anonymous wrote:I would love for there to be a happy ending to this horror story, but if there aren’t going to be any survivors, I hope they died really early on. Depressurization would be preferable to slowly running out of oxygen in a cramped space.

If you were going to go on a super risky excursion like this, would you bring a suicide method with you? Can you even buy cyanide pills?

I read that they had cyanide pills. Not sure if that's true or not.

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Anonymous wrote:May I ask a dumb question?

We have pics of the Titanic wreck, so clearly someone has been down there before? How did they live to tell the tale?

Many submersibles have gone down there. Even Titan has gone down before and returned.

Didn’t James Cameron go down there?

James Cameron went down 33 times. Was Titan less regulated than other subs?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My big takeaway from this thread is that the state of basic science education in this country is dire indeed. JFC.

And not just science, but just... common sense.


Sharks are mammals.

They should have just put a cable on it, connected to the mothership.

Why no GPS?

Was the selfie from a guy trapped in the sub?


WTF people? I'm hoping some of these are trolls or maybe kids posting here.

To the poster who mocked me for asking about a potential fiber optic cable tether please see the link below. It looks like this might be a possibility in the future.

https://www.uri.edu/news/2021/05/compact-deployment-system-makes-exploring-deep-seas-easier/

I did some googling and many deep sea research vessels, including some manned vessels, ARE tethered to support ships. They are built around giant winches.

It's not strong enough to lift 12,000 lbs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My big takeaway from this thread is that the state of basic science education in this country is dire indeed. JFC.

And not just science, but just... common sense.


Sharks are mammals.

They should have just put a cable on it, connected to the mothership.

Why no GPS?

Was the selfie from a guy trapped in the sub?


WTF people? I'm hoping some of these are trolls or maybe kids posting here.

To the poster who mocked me for asking about a potential fiber optic cable tether please see the link below. It looks like this might be a possibility in the future.

https://www.uri.edu/news/2021/05/compact-deployment-system-makes-exploring-deep-seas-easier/

I did some googling and many deep sea research vessels, including some manned vessels, ARE tethered to support ships. They are built around giant winches.

It's not strong enough to lift 12,000 lbs.

Right, I didn’t expect a fiber optic cable to lift a sub. I mentioned it as a possibility for communicating location.

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I hope these people are found and rescued, and that with their billions they will pay back the costs of being rescued from what I agree was entirely a vanity project at now great financial and emotional cost to the public.

I guess you feel the titanic victims themselves should have been billed for their rescue.

Traveling via a normal mode of transportation is not a vanity project, so no.

I don't care about the cost of this rescue mission. The government wastes so much money on a daily basis, this is a drop in the bucket. It's hard to get excited about this. Our tax dollars are often wasted. So what.

You don't have to get excited about this but on balance I think that it would be better the billionaires to pay for their own search and rescue missions instead of the taxpayers.

I can think of lots of ways to spare taxpayers. This barely registers.

Okay, but I'm not wrong.

Well you are, because they won't be billed.

LOL I am not saying they will be billed.

You've decided that you're right about who should pay and who shouldn't. Who agrees with you? Not the Coast Guard and US Government. So, what exactly are you right about? The government wastes a shit ton of money every day. And you think stopping these rare rescues would make even the slightest difference?

A lot of people agree with me but that isn't even the point, I think that if you sit and think for one minute whether a billionaire--one individual who has a THOUSAND million dollars--should pay for a rescue operation, or if it should be the US government which is financed in large part through working people, you should pick the billionaire.

And in case this wasn't clear, this is just a thought exercise.

Whatever. Get over it.

Who the hell are you again? Oh, right. Nobody.

Just like you. But at least there are better people than you out there who do the right thing and don't make petty decisions because they are jealous of the rich. I'm glad they call the shots and not you.

Yes, we’re alllll super jealous of the people dying two miles underwater with a full bank account they’ll never use. You’re a moron.

They aren't taking their money with them. Their survivors will still have it. And they won't have to spend a penny on the rescue. And that makes you big time mad.

They "won't have to spend a penny on rescue" because they are dead and will not be rescued. No, that doesn't make me "big time mad." You're a weirdo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do people think that the recovery of the submissive will be quick? Even if they are located and are alive and with oxygen, it’s not a quick lift to get them out. It will take days to lift this up to surface.

How many people really think this will be a rescue operation? Most people know this is hopeless.

Many on this thread haven’t gotten the memo.

They are down to last few hours of oxygen. The writing is on the wall for those not in the know.

The writing was on the wall days ago. People were so excited about the reports of bangs but obviously didn’t know that bangs were heard constantly in the search for mh370 and they never turned out to be anything.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My big takeaway from this thread is that the state of basic science education in this country is dire indeed. JFC.

And not just science, but just... common sense.


Sharks are mammals.

They should have just put a cable on it, connected to the mothership.

Why no GPS?

Was the selfie from a guy trapped in the sub?


WTF people? I'm hoping some of these are trolls or maybe kids posting here.

To the poster who mocked me for asking about a potential fiber optic cable tether please see the link below. It looks like this might be a possibility in the future.

https://www.uri.edu/news/2021/05/compact-deployment-system-makes-exploring-deep-seas-easier/

I did some googling and many deep sea research vessels, including some manned vessels, ARE tethered to support ships. They are built around giant winches.

It's not strong enough to lift 12,000 lbs.

Right, I didn’t expect a fiber optic cable to lift a sub. I mentioned it as a possibility for communicating location.

Even if they knew exactly where the sub was from the outset, is there ANY technology capable of lifting it to the surface from those depths? Not being snarky, genuine question.

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Anonymous wrote:

I hope these people are found and rescued, and that with their billions they will pay back the costs of being rescued from what I agree was entirely a vanity project at now great financial and emotional cost to the public.

I guess you feel the titanic victims themselves should have been billed for their rescue.

Traveling via a normal mode of transportation is not a vanity project, so no.

I don't care about the cost of this rescue mission. The government wastes so much money on a daily basis, this is a drop in the bucket. It's hard to get excited about this. Our tax dollars are often wasted. So what.

You don't have to get excited about this but on balance I think that it would be better the billionaires to pay for their own search and rescue missions instead of the taxpayers.

I can think of lots of ways to spare taxpayers. This barely registers.

Okay, but I'm not wrong.

Well you are, because they won't be billed.

LOL I am not saying they will be billed.

You've decided that you're right about who should pay and who shouldn't. Who agrees with you? Not the Coast Guard and US Government. So, what exactly are you right about? The government wastes a shit ton of money every day. And you think stopping these rare rescues would make even the slightest difference?

A lot of people agree with me but that isn't even the point, I think that if you sit and think for one minute whether a billionaire--one individual who has a THOUSAND million dollars--should pay for a rescue operation, or if it should be the US government which is financed in large part through working people, you should pick the billionaire.

And in case this wasn't clear, this is just a thought exercise.

Whatever. Get over it.

Who the hell are you again? Oh, right. Nobody.

Just like you. But at least there are better people than you out there who do the right thing and don't make petty decisions because they are jealous of the rich. I'm glad they call the shots and not you.

Yes, we’re alllll super jealous of the people dying two miles underwater with a full bank account they’ll never use. You’re a moron.

They aren't taking their money with them. Their survivors will still have it. And they won't have to spend a penny on the rescue. And that makes you big time mad.

They "won't have to spend a penny on rescue" because they are dead and will not be rescued. No, that doesn't make me "big time mad." You're a weirdo.

You think the money went? Poof! Oh well. Guess it wouldn't occur to you to bill the estate.

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Many on this thread haven’t gotten the memo.


They are down to last few hours of oxygen. The writing is on the wall for those not in the know.

Most likely they are already dead from implosion. The sudden loss of contact makes this the most likely scenario and frankly, probably preferable to suffocating. Whether anything will be found/recovered is another story.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My big takeaway from this thread is that the state of basic science education in this country is dire indeed. JFC.

And not just science, but just... common sense.


Sharks are mammals.

They should have just put a cable on it, connected to the mothership.

Why no GPS?

Was the selfie from a guy trapped in the sub?


WTF people? I'm hoping some of these are trolls or maybe kids posting here.

To the poster who mocked me for asking about a potential fiber optic cable tether please see the link below. It looks like this might be a possibility in the future.

https://www.uri.edu/news/2021/05/compact-deployment-system-makes-exploring-deep-seas-easier/

I did some googling and many deep sea research vessels, including some manned vessels, ARE tethered to support ships. They are built around giant winches.

It's not strong enough to lift 12,000 lbs.

Right, I didn’t expect a fiber optic cable to lift a sub. I mentioned it as a possibility for communicating location.

If the cable became detached, you really don't get any information about location. Without doing any research, I imagine interial guidance is the only workable solution unless you have detailed maps of the ocean floor and sonar.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My big takeaway from this thread is that the state of basic science education in this country is dire indeed. JFC.

And not just science, but just... common sense.


Sharks are mammals.

They should have just put a cable on it, connected to the mothership.

Why no GPS?

Was the selfie from a guy trapped in the sub?


WTF people? I'm hoping some of these are trolls or maybe kids posting here.

To the poster who mocked me for asking about a potential fiber optic cable tether please see the link below. It looks like this might be a possibility in the future.

https://www.uri.edu/news/2021/05/compact-deployment-system-makes-exploring-deep-seas-easier/

I did some googling and many deep sea research vessels, including some manned vessels, ARE tethered to support ships. They are built around giant winches.

It's not strong enough to lift 12,000 lbs.

Right, I didn’t expect a fiber optic cable to lift a sub. I mentioned it as a possibility for communicating location.

Even if they knew exactly where the sub was from the outset, is there ANY technology capable of lifting it to the surface from those depths? Not being snarky, genuine question.

I assume that they were looking at the possibility that the sun was entangled in debris or something vs loss of all power. Apparently, that happened with another sub and they were able to send down a second vessel to maneuver it free.