2028 Girls Lacrosse

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Anonymous wrote:The time to move is after 7th grade. The longer you wait, the tougher it is.

Ugh, having buyer’s remorse. Oh well. Next year.

Why already?

Just feel like I missed the boat on a good MD team. Not saying my kid would make it just feel like I would’ve liked to see how she matched up in tryouts. Grass is always greener, tho.

Gets harder each year after 6th grade. The top clubs had 90-100 girls at tryouts and they are only looking to fill 2-5 spots depending on the team.

You have to have elite speed, size or combination to stand out

More on "speed and size". Let me offer a counterpoint. I know of multiple offers from top 5 MD teams to 2028s this year that certainly weren't based on size, and much more on elite skill, than speed. You also need to factor in head to head experience, camps or clinics, guest practices, etc. Agree a player can't just show up and make a team out of nowhere without some eye catching components to her game; I just think the speed and size talk is a bit overdone when there are multiple paths to get noticed, and definitely when discussing 13-year olds at the beginning, or in the middle, of growth spurts.

Just curious, but how are you specifically aware of the reasons underlying multiple offers to top MD clubs. You don’t sound like a coach or are you just full of crap?

The prior post said “you have to have elite size and speed, or combination”. I’m merely saying that that’s not necessarily the case. My view is informed by two offers to girls without size or “elite speed” that were offered in this cycle, that I personally know.

More broadly, I find the elite size and speed obsession—in a skill sport—limiting and erroneous. Even at the top of the D1 level, I can think of numerous examples of star players with neither. They are just damn good at lacrosse. No need to deter 13 year olds developing their game by telling them they can’t make it without specific genetic gifts. Certainly helps, but not the only way to get there.

So, not sure what I “sound like” to you, or why you seem frustrated, but I am sure of the points I offered.

So, since you brought it up, which team made offers to fill a gap?

No big deal on the parsing of your understanding of “elite” but don’t be a douche and call out girls who got offers from top MD teams (there aren’t that many) by calling into question their speed etc. You try to cover your insult with a backhanded compliment but anyone can see it for what it is. And if you don’t think it is an insult, don’t hide behind an anonymous post.

You are crazy. I'm a "douche" for saying that some girls can be SO GOOD at lacrosse that they don't need size (which is either there or not there) or "elite" speed (subjective, but on a range), to make a top 5 Maryland team? You can still be very fast, or have game speed, or be quick and dynamic, without having "elite" speed. That's somehow an "insult" to you? It's actually the opposite. Get a grip man. You apparently don't like to lose an argument, so you resort to name calling.

Your posts opining on the all powerful attributes of speed and size were also anonymous.

And you have no idea how many offers there were. Some were turned down... Recommend you take a deep breath.

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Anonymous wrote:The time to move is after 7th grade. The longer you wait, the tougher it is.

Ugh, having buyer’s remorse. Oh well. Next year.

Why already?

Just feel like I missed the boat on a good MD team. Not saying my kid would make it just feel like I would’ve liked to see how she matched up in tryouts. Grass is always greener, tho.

Gets harder each year after 6th grade. The top clubs had 90-100 girls at tryouts and they are only looking to fill 2-5 spots depending on the team.

You have to have elite speed, size or combination to stand out

More on "speed and size". Let me offer a counterpoint. I know of multiple offers from top 5 MD teams to 2028s this year that certainly weren't based on size, and much more on elite skill, than speed. You also need to factor in head to head experience, camps or clinics, guest practices, etc. Agree a player can't just show up and make a team out of nowhere without some eye catching components to her game; I just think the speed and size talk is a bit overdone when there are multiple paths to get noticed, and definitely when discussing 13-year olds at the beginning, or in the middle, of growth spurts.

Just curious, but how are you specifically aware of the reasons underlying multiple offers to top MD clubs. You don’t sound like a coach or are you just full of crap?

The prior post said “you have to have elite size and speed, or combination”. I’m merely saying that that’s not necessarily the case. My view is informed by two offers to girls without size or “elite speed” that were offered in this cycle, that I personally know.

More broadly, I find the elite size and speed obsession—in a skill sport—limiting and erroneous. Even at the top of the D1 level, I can think of numerous examples of star players with neither. They are just damn good at lacrosse. No need to deter 13 year olds developing their game by telling them they can’t make it without specific genetic gifts. Certainly helps, but not the only way to get there.

So, not sure what I “sound like” to you, or why you seem frustrated, but I am sure of the points I offered.

The combination of size, strength, and speed certainly helps. IMO if the NCAA adopts a 10v10 format the game will become more physical where size and speed will become a must. The UNCs, BCs, NWs of lacrosse will stack their rosters with players with these attributes. The proposed rules changes by Levy will not only take opportunities away from women, they will change the type of players recruited by the top programs. Let’s hope the rules committee does not adopt the proposed rules changes to ensure more girls continue to have opportunities to play in college.

Agreed, the idea alone of less field players seems completely backwards, which obviously will reduce roster size and end of day, lacrosse players in general.

And with more open space as a result of fewer field players the need will exist to fill that space with size and speed.

If there are two less field players as a result of the proposed rules changes will this mean 4-6 fewer players per team. If so, this equates to roughly 500-700 fewer D1 offers per year to high school girls.

I don’t like the proposed changes for this and many other reasons.

Agree with the above on the new rules.

[Anonymous]

Good news is the rules committee agreed today to keep play 12v12.

Lots is green card fouls now, which will slow the game down. But this includes flopping which is a good addition. Also, if I am understanding the rule correctly goals scored when a simultaneous foul is called will stay a goal. So the advantage is not taken away from the offensive player. Another good rule.

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Anonymous wrote:Good news is the rules committee agreed today to keep play 12v12.

Lots is green card fouls now, which will slow the game down. But this includes flopping which is a good addition. Also, if I am understanding the rule correctly goals scored when a simultaneous foul is called will stay a goal. So the advantage is not taken away from the offensive player. Another good rule.

Good news indeed. Thanks for the update!

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Anonymous wrote:The time to move is after 7th grade. The longer you wait, the tougher it is.

Ugh, having buyer’s remorse. Oh well. Next year.

Why already?

Just feel like I missed the boat on a good MD team. Not saying my kid would make it just feel like I would’ve liked to see how she matched up in tryouts. Grass is always greener, tho.

Gets harder each year after 6th grade. The top clubs had 90-100 girls at tryouts and they are only looking to fill 2-5 spots depending on the team.

You have to have elite speed, size or combination to stand out

More on "speed and size". Let me offer a counterpoint. I know of multiple offers from top 5 MD teams to 2028s this year that certainly weren't based on size, and much more on elite skill, than speed. You also need to factor in head to head experience, camps or clinics, guest practices, etc. Agree a player can't just show up and make a team out of nowhere without some eye catching components to her game; I just think the speed and size talk is a bit overdone when there are multiple paths to get noticed, and definitely when discussing 13-year olds at the beginning, or in the middle, of growth spurts.

Just curious, but how are you specifically aware of the reasons underlying multiple offers to top MD clubs. You don’t sound like a coach or are you just full of crap?

The prior post said “you have to have elite size and speed, or combination”. I’m merely saying that that’s not necessarily the case. My view is informed by two offers to girls without size or “elite speed” that were offered in this cycle, that I personally know.

More broadly, I find the elite size and speed obsession—in a skill sport—limiting and erroneous. Even at the top of the D1 level, I can think of numerous examples of star players with neither. They are just damn good at lacrosse. No need to deter 13 year olds developing their game by telling them they can’t make it without specific genetic gifts. Certainly helps, but not the only way to get there.

So, not sure what I “sound like” to you, or why you seem frustrated, but I am sure of the points I offered.

So, since you brought it up, which team made offers to fill a gap?

No big deal on the parsing of your understanding of “elite” but don’t be a douche and call out girls who got offers from top MD teams (there aren’t that many) by calling into question their speed etc. You try to cover your insult with a backhanded compliment but anyone can see it for what it is. And if you don’t think it is an insult, don’t hide behind an anonymous post.

You are crazy. I'm a "douche" for saying that some girls can be SO GOOD at lacrosse that they don't need size (which is either there or not there) or "elite" speed (subjective, but on a range), to make a top 5 Maryland team? You can still be very fast, or have game speed, or be quick and dynamic, without having "elite" speed. That's somehow an "insult" to you? It's actually the opposite. Get a grip man. You apparently don't like to lose an argument, so you resort to name calling.

Your posts opining on the all powerful attributes of speed and size were also anonymous.

And you have no idea how many offers there were. Some were turned down... Recommend you take a deep breath.

I was not the one posting on size and speed. I called you out for saying you had the inside scoop on two of the top MD team offer which is bull$hit.

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Anonymous wrote:The time to move is after 7th grade. The longer you wait, the tougher it is.

Ugh, having buyer’s remorse. Oh well. Next year.

Why already?

Just feel like I missed the boat on a good MD team. Not saying my kid would make it just feel like I would’ve liked to see how she matched up in tryouts. Grass is always greener, tho.

Gets harder each year after 6th grade. The top clubs had 90-100 girls at tryouts and they are only looking to fill 2-5 spots depending on the team.

You have to have elite speed, size or combination to stand out

More on "speed and size". Let me offer a counterpoint. I know of multiple offers from top 5 MD teams to 2028s this year that certainly weren't based on size, and much more on elite skill, than speed. You also need to factor in head to head experience, camps or clinics, guest practices, etc. Agree a player can't just show up and make a team out of nowhere without some eye catching components to her game; I just think the speed and size talk is a bit overdone when there are multiple paths to get noticed, and definitely when discussing 13-year olds at the beginning, or in the middle, of growth spurts.

Just curious, but how are you specifically aware of the reasons underlying multiple offers to top MD clubs. You don’t sound like a coach or are you just full of crap?

The prior post said “you have to have elite size and speed, or combination”. I’m merely saying that that’s not necessarily the case. My view is informed by two offers to girls without size or “elite speed” that were offered in this cycle, that I personally know.

More broadly, I find the elite size and speed obsession—in a skill sport—limiting and erroneous. Even at the top of the D1 level, I can think of numerous examples of star players with neither. They are just damn good at lacrosse. No need to deter 13 year olds developing their game by telling them they can’t make it without specific genetic gifts. Certainly helps, but not the only way to get there.

So, not sure what I “sound like” to you, or why you seem frustrated, but I am sure of the points I offered.

So, since you brought it up, which team made offers to fill a gap?

No big deal on the parsing of your understanding of “elite” but don’t be a douche and call out girls who got offers from top MD teams (there aren’t that many) by calling into question their speed etc. You try to cover your insult with a backhanded compliment but anyone can see it for what it is. And if you don’t think it is an insult, don’t hide behind an anonymous post.

You are crazy. I'm a "douche" for saying that some girls can be SO GOOD at lacrosse that they don't need size (which is either there or not there) or "elite" speed (subjective, but on a range), to make a top 5 Maryland team? You can still be very fast, or have game speed, or be quick and dynamic, without having "elite" speed. That's somehow an "insult" to you? It's actually the opposite. Get a grip man. You apparently don't like to lose an argument, so you resort to name calling.

Your posts opining on the all powerful attributes of speed and size were also anonymous.

And you have no idea how many offers there were. Some were turned down... Recommend you take a deep breath.

You won’t name the team you have the scoop on bc it is BS.

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Anonymous wrote:The time to move is after 7th grade. The longer you wait, the tougher it is.

Ugh, having buyer’s remorse. Oh well. Next year.

Why already?

Just feel like I missed the boat on a good MD team. Not saying my kid would make it just feel like I would’ve liked to see how she matched up in tryouts. Grass is always greener, tho.

Gets harder each year after 6th grade. The top clubs had 90-100 girls at tryouts and they are only looking to fill 2-5 spots depending on the team.

You have to have elite speed, size or combination to stand out

More on "speed and size". Let me offer a counterpoint. I know of multiple offers from top 5 MD teams to 2028s this year that certainly weren't based on size, and much more on elite skill, than speed. You also need to factor in head to head experience, camps or clinics, guest practices, etc. Agree a player can't just show up and make a team out of nowhere without some eye catching components to her game; I just think the speed and size talk is a bit overdone when there are multiple paths to get noticed, and definitely when discussing 13-year olds at the beginning, or in the middle, of growth spurts.

Just curious, but how are you specifically aware of the reasons underlying multiple offers to top MD clubs. You don’t sound like a coach or are you just full of crap?

The prior post said “you have to have elite size and speed, or combination”. I’m merely saying that that’s not necessarily the case. My view is informed by two offers to girls without size or “elite speed” that were offered in this cycle, that I personally know.

More broadly, I find the elite size and speed obsession—in a skill sport—limiting and erroneous. Even at the top of the D1 level, I can think of numerous examples of star players with neither. They are just damn good at lacrosse. No need to deter 13 year olds developing their game by telling them they can’t make it without specific genetic gifts. Certainly helps, but not the only way to get there.

So, not sure what I “sound like” to you, or why you seem frustrated, but I am sure of the points I offered.

So, since you brought it up, which team made offers to fill a gap?

No big deal on the parsing of your understanding of “elite” but don’t be a douche and call out girls who got offers from top MD teams (there aren’t that many) by calling into question their speed etc. You try to cover your insult with a backhanded compliment but anyone can see it for what it is. And if you don’t think it is an insult, don’t hide behind an anonymous post.

I am looking forward to the next steps on this thread after everyone starts drinking some wine tonight.

Saying "don’t hide behind an anonymous post" while posting anonymously on an anonymous forum is pure gold.

Yeah, that would work if I were calling girls out which I am not. Douche Dad is. He claims “personal” knowledge of two girls who lack speed and size - my point: you can make the overwhelmingly obvious point without mentioning a very limited universe of 13 y/o girls. That’s why he’s a douche.

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Anonymous wrote:The time to move is after 7th grade. The longer you wait, the tougher it is.

Ugh, having buyer’s remorse. Oh well. Next year.

Why already?

Just feel like I missed the boat on a good MD team. Not saying my kid would make it just feel like I would’ve liked to see how she matched up in tryouts. Grass is always greener, tho.

Gets harder each year after 6th grade. The top clubs had 90-100 girls at tryouts and they are only looking to fill 2-5 spots depending on the team.

You have to have elite speed, size or combination to stand out

More on "speed and size". Let me offer a counterpoint. I know of multiple offers from top 5 MD teams to 2028s this year that certainly weren't based on size, and much more on elite skill, than speed. You also need to factor in head to head experience, camps or clinics, guest practices, etc. Agree a player can't just show up and make a team out of nowhere without some eye catching components to her game; I just think the speed and size talk is a bit overdone when there are multiple paths to get noticed, and definitely when discussing 13-year olds at the beginning, or in the middle, of growth spurts.

Just curious, but how are you specifically aware of the reasons underlying multiple offers to top MD clubs. You don’t sound like a coach or are you just full of crap?

The prior post said “you have to have elite size and speed, or combination”. I’m merely saying that that’s not necessarily the case. My view is informed by two offers to girls without size or “elite speed” that were offered in this cycle, that I personally know.

More broadly, I find the elite size and speed obsession—in a skill sport—limiting and erroneous. Even at the top of the D1 level, I can think of numerous examples of star players with neither. They are just damn good at lacrosse. No need to deter 13 year olds developing their game by telling them they can’t make it without specific genetic gifts. Certainly helps, but not the only way to get there.

So, not sure what I “sound like” to you, or why you seem frustrated, but I am sure of the points I offered.

So, since you brought it up, which team made offers to fill a gap?

No big deal on the parsing of your understanding of “elite” but don’t be a douche and call out girls who got offers from top MD teams (there aren’t that many) by calling into question their speed etc. You try to cover your insult with a backhanded compliment but anyone can see it for what it is. And if you don’t think it is an insult, don’t hide behind an anonymous post.

I am looking forward to the next steps on this thread after everyone starts drinking some wine tonight.

Saying "don’t hide behind an anonymous post" while posting anonymously on an anonymous forum is pure gold.

Yeah, that would work if I were calling girls out which I am not. Douche Dad is. He claims “personal” knowledge of two girls who lack speed and size - my point: you can make the overwhelmingly obvious point without mentioning a very limited universe of 13 y/o girls. That’s why he’s a douche.

Hearing there are girls who lack speed and size yet still can make a top team actually gives me hope for my slow and small daughter.

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Anonymous wrote:The time to move is after 7th grade. The longer you wait, the tougher it is.

Ugh, having buyer’s remorse. Oh well. Next year.

Why already?

Just feel like I missed the boat on a good MD team. Not saying my kid would make it just feel like I would’ve liked to see how she matched up in tryouts. Grass is always greener, tho.

Gets harder each year after 6th grade. The top clubs had 90-100 girls at tryouts and they are only looking to fill 2-5 spots depending on the team.

You have to have elite speed, size or combination to stand out

More on "speed and size". Let me offer a counterpoint. I know of multiple offers from top 5 MD teams to 2028s this year that certainly weren't based on size, and much more on elite skill, than speed. You also need to factor in head to head experience, camps or clinics, guest practices, etc. Agree a player can't just show up and make a team out of nowhere without some eye catching components to her game; I just think the speed and size talk is a bit overdone when there are multiple paths to get noticed, and definitely when discussing 13-year olds at the beginning, or in the middle, of growth spurts.

Just curious, but how are you specifically aware of the reasons underlying multiple offers to top MD clubs. You don’t sound like a coach or are you just full of crap?

The prior post said “you have to have elite size and speed, or combination”. I’m merely saying that that’s not necessarily the case. My view is informed by two offers to girls without size or “elite speed” that were offered in this cycle, that I personally know.

More broadly, I find the elite size and speed obsession—in a skill sport—limiting and erroneous. Even at the top of the D1 level, I can think of numerous examples of star players with neither. They are just damn good at lacrosse. No need to deter 13 year olds developing their game by telling them they can’t make it without specific genetic gifts. Certainly helps, but not the only way to get there.

So, not sure what I “sound like” to you, or why you seem frustrated, but I am sure of the points I offered.

So, since you brought it up, which team made offers to fill a gap?

No big deal on the parsing of your understanding of “elite” but don’t be a douche and call out girls who got offers from top MD teams (there aren’t that many) by calling into question their speed etc. You try to cover your insult with a backhanded compliment but anyone can see it for what it is. And if you don’t think it is an insult, don’t hide behind an anonymous post.

I am looking forward to the next steps on this thread after everyone starts drinking some wine tonight.

Saying "don’t hide behind an anonymous post" while posting anonymously on an anonymous forum is pure gold.

Yeah, that would work if I were calling girls out which I am not. Douche Dad is. He claims “personal” knowledge of two girls who lack speed and size - my point: you can make the overwhelmingly obvious point without mentioning a very limited universe of 13 y/o girls. That’s why he’s a douche.

Lost argument; no insight; keep digging….

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I can't get over how nuts people are over 8th grade girls lacrosse

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Anonymous wrote:The time to move is after 7th grade. The longer you wait, the tougher it is.

Ugh, having buyer’s remorse. Oh well. Next year.

Why already?

Just feel like I missed the boat on a good MD team. Not saying my kid would make it just feel like I would’ve liked to see how she matched up in tryouts. Grass is always greener, tho.

Gets harder each year after 6th grade. The top clubs had 90-100 girls at tryouts and they are only looking to fill 2-5 spots depending on the team.

You have to have elite speed, size or combination to stand out

More on "speed and size". Let me offer a counterpoint. I know of multiple offers from top 5 MD teams to 2028s this year that certainly weren't based on size, and much more on elite skill, than speed. You also need to factor in head to head experience, camps or clinics, guest practices, etc. Agree a player can't just show up and make a team out of nowhere without some eye catching components to her game; I just think the speed and size talk is a bit overdone when there are multiple paths to get noticed, and definitely when discussing 13-year olds at the beginning, or in the middle, of growth spurts.

Just curious, but how are you specifically aware of the reasons underlying multiple offers to top MD clubs. You don’t sound like a coach or are you just full of crap?

The prior post said “you have to have elite size and speed, or combination”. I’m merely saying that that’s not necessarily the case. My view is informed by two offers to girls without size or “elite speed” that were offered in this cycle, that I personally know.

More broadly, I find the elite size and speed obsession—in a skill sport—limiting and erroneous. Even at the top of the D1 level, I can think of numerous examples of star players with neither. They are just damn good at lacrosse. No need to deter 13 year olds developing their game by telling them they can’t make it without specific genetic gifts. Certainly helps, but not the only way to get there.

So, not sure what I “sound like” to you, or why you seem frustrated, but I am sure of the points I offered.

So, since you brought it up, which team made offers to fill a gap?

No big deal on the parsing of your understanding of “elite” but don’t be a douche and call out girls who got offers from top MD teams (there aren’t that many) by calling into question their speed etc. You try to cover your insult with a backhanded compliment but anyone can see it for what it is. And if you don’t think it is an insult, don’t hide behind an anonymous post.

You are crazy. I'm a "douche" for saying that some girls can be SO GOOD at lacrosse that they don't need size (which is either there or not there) or "elite" speed (subjective, but on a range), to make a top 5 Maryland team? You can still be very fast, or have game speed, or be quick and dynamic, without having "elite" speed. That's somehow an "insult" to you? It's actually the opposite. Get a grip man. You apparently don't like to lose an argument, so you resort to name calling.

Your posts opining on the all powerful attributes of speed and size were also anonymous.

And you have no idea how many offers there were. Some were turned down... Recommend you take a deep breath.

I was not the one posting on size and speed. I called you out for saying you had the inside scoop on two of the top MD team offer which is bull$hit.

You don’t think parents and coaches talk? Pretty big group at Mid-Atlantic hanging out between games. I can see why no one would want to talk to you…but a lot of info is shared.

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I think it is the same three people who post here consistently.

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Anonymous wrote:The time to move is after 7th grade. The longer you wait, the tougher it is.

Ugh, having buyer’s remorse. Oh well. Next year.

Why already?

Just feel like I missed the boat on a good MD team. Not saying my kid would make it just feel like I would’ve liked to see how she matched up in tryouts. Grass is always greener, tho.

Gets harder each year after 6th grade. The top clubs had 90-100 girls at tryouts and they are only looking to fill 2-5 spots depending on the team.

You have to have elite speed, size or combination to stand out

More on "speed and size". Let me offer a counterpoint. I know of multiple offers from top 5 MD teams to 2028s this year that certainly weren't based on size, and much more on elite skill, than speed. You also need to factor in head to head experience, camps or clinics, guest practices, etc. Agree a player can't just show up and make a team out of nowhere without some eye catching components to her game; I just think the speed and size talk is a bit overdone when there are multiple paths to get noticed, and definitely when discussing 13-year olds at the beginning, or in the middle, of growth spurts.

Just curious, but how are you specifically aware of the reasons underlying multiple offers to top MD clubs. You don’t sound like a coach or are you just full of crap?

The prior post said “you have to have elite size and speed, or combination”. I’m merely saying that that’s not necessarily the case. My view is informed by two offers to girls without size or “elite speed” that were offered in this cycle, that I personally know.

More broadly, I find the elite size and speed obsession—in a skill sport—limiting and erroneous. Even at the top of the D1 level, I can think of numerous examples of star players with neither. They are just damn good at lacrosse. No need to deter 13 year olds developing their game by telling them they can’t make it without specific genetic gifts. Certainly helps, but not the only way to get there.

So, not sure what I “sound like” to you, or why you seem frustrated, but I am sure of the points I offered.

So, since you brought it up, which team made offers to fill a gap?

No big deal on the parsing of your understanding of “elite” but don’t be a douche and call out girls who got offers from top MD teams (there aren’t that many) by calling into question their speed etc. You try to cover your insult with a backhanded compliment but anyone can see it for what it is. And if you don’t think it is an insult, don’t hide behind an anonymous post.

You are crazy. I'm a "douche" for saying that some girls can be SO GOOD at lacrosse that they don't need size (which is either there or not there) or "elite" speed (subjective, but on a range), to make a top 5 Maryland team? You can still be very fast, or have game speed, or be quick and dynamic, without having "elite" speed. That's somehow an "insult" to you? It's actually the opposite. Get a grip man. You apparently don't like to lose an argument, so you resort to name calling.

Your posts opining on the all powerful attributes of speed and size were also anonymous.

And you have no idea how many offers there were. Some were turned down... Recommend you take a deep breath.

I was not the one posting on size and speed. I called you out for saying you had the inside scoop on two of the top MD team offer which is bull$hit.

You don’t think parents and coaches talk? Pretty big group at Mid-Atlantic hanging out between games. I can see why no one would want to talk to you…but a lot of info is shared.

Ooooh. So name the team, Douche.

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Anonymous wrote:The time to move is after 7th grade. The longer you wait, the tougher it is.

Ugh, having buyer’s remorse. Oh well. Next year.

Why already?

Just feel like I missed the boat on a good MD team. Not saying my kid would make it just feel like I would’ve liked to see how she matched up in tryouts. Grass is always greener, tho.

Gets harder each year after 6th grade. The top clubs had 90-100 girls at tryouts and they are only looking to fill 2-5 spots depending on the team.

You have to have elite speed, size or combination to stand out

More on "speed and size". Let me offer a counterpoint. I know of multiple offers from top 5 MD teams to 2028s this year that certainly weren't based on size, and much more on elite skill, than speed. You also need to factor in head to head experience, camps or clinics, guest practices, etc. Agree a player can't just show up and make a team out of nowhere without some eye catching components to her game; I just think the speed and size talk is a bit overdone when there are multiple paths to get noticed, and definitely when discussing 13-year olds at the beginning, or in the middle, of growth spurts.

Just curious, but how are you specifically aware of the reasons underlying multiple offers to top MD clubs. You don’t sound like a coach or are you just full of crap?

The prior post said “you have to have elite size and speed, or combination”. I’m merely saying that that’s not necessarily the case. My view is informed by two offers to girls without size or “elite speed” that were offered in this cycle, that I personally know.

More broadly, I find the elite size and speed obsession—in a skill sport—limiting and erroneous. Even at the top of the D1 level, I can think of numerous examples of star players with neither. They are just damn good at lacrosse. No need to deter 13 year olds developing their game by telling them they can’t make it without specific genetic gifts. Certainly helps, but not the only way to get there.

So, not sure what I “sound like” to you, or why you seem frustrated, but I am sure of the points I offered.

So, since you brought it up, which team made offers to fill a gap?

No big deal on the parsing of your understanding of “elite” but don’t be a douche and call out girls who got offers from top MD teams (there aren’t that many) by calling into question their speed etc. You try to cover your insult with a backhanded compliment but anyone can see it for what it is. And if you don’t think it is an insult, don’t hide behind an anonymous post.

You are crazy. I'm a "douche" for saying that some girls can be SO GOOD at lacrosse that they don't need size (which is either there or not there) or "elite" speed (subjective, but on a range), to make a top 5 Maryland team? You can still be very fast, or have game speed, or be quick and dynamic, without having "elite" speed. That's somehow an "insult" to you? It's actually the opposite. Get a grip man. You apparently don't like to lose an argument, so you resort to name calling.

Your posts opining on the all powerful attributes of speed and size were also anonymous.

And you have no idea how many offers there were. Some were turned down... Recommend you take a deep breath.

I was not the one posting on size and speed. I called you out for saying you had the inside scoop on two of the top MD team offer which is bull$hit.

You don’t think parents and coaches talk? Pretty big group at Mid-Atlantic hanging out between games. I can see why no one would want to talk to you…but a lot of info is shared.

Ooooh. So name the team, Douche.

Maybe if your weren’t such an incredibly disagreeable blowhard, someone would tell you.

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Ugh, having buyer’s remorse. Oh well. Next year.

Why already?

Just feel like I missed the boat on a good MD team. Not saying my kid would make it just feel like I would’ve liked to see how she matched up in tryouts. Grass is always greener, tho.

Gets harder each year after 6th grade. The top clubs had 90-100 girls at tryouts and they are only looking to fill 2-5 spots depending on the team.

You have to have elite speed, size or combination to stand out

More on "speed and size". Let me offer a counterpoint. I know of multiple offers from top 5 MD teams to 2028s this year that certainly weren't based on size, and much more on elite skill, than speed. You also need to factor in head to head experience, camps or clinics, guest practices, etc. Agree a player can't just show up and make a team out of nowhere without some eye catching components to her game; I just think the speed and size talk is a bit overdone when there are multiple paths to get noticed, and definitely when discussing 13-year olds at the beginning, or in the middle, of growth spurts.

Just curious, but how are you specifically aware of the reasons underlying multiple offers to top MD clubs. You don’t sound like a coach or are you just full of crap?

The prior post said “you have to have elite size and speed, or combination”. I’m merely saying that that’s not necessarily the case. My view is informed by two offers to girls without size or “elite speed” that were offered in this cycle, that I personally know.

More broadly, I find the elite size and speed obsession—in a skill sport—limiting and erroneous. Even at the top of the D1 level, I can think of numerous examples of star players with neither. They are just damn good at lacrosse. No need to deter 13 year olds developing their game by telling them they can’t make it without specific genetic gifts. Certainly helps, but not the only way to get there.

So, not sure what I “sound like” to you, or why you seem frustrated, but I am sure of the points I offered.

So, since you brought it up, which team made offers to fill a gap?

No big deal on the parsing of your understanding of “elite” but don’t be a douche and call out girls who got offers from top MD teams (there aren’t that many) by calling into question their speed etc. You try to cover your insult with a backhanded compliment but anyone can see it for what it is. And if you don’t think it is an insult, don’t hide behind an anonymous post.

You are crazy. I'm a "douche" for saying that some girls can be SO GOOD at lacrosse that they don't need size (which is either there or not there) or "elite" speed (subjective, but on a range), to make a top 5 Maryland team? You can still be very fast, or have game speed, or be quick and dynamic, without having "elite" speed. That's somehow an "insult" to you? It's actually the opposite. Get a grip man. You apparently don't like to lose an argument, so you resort to name calling.

Your posts opining on the all powerful attributes of speed and size were also anonymous.

And you have no idea how many offers there were. Some were turned down... Recommend you take a deep breath.

I was not the one posting on size and speed. I called you out for saying you had the inside scoop on two of the top MD team offer which is bull$hit.

You don’t think parents and coaches talk? Pretty big group at Mid-Atlantic hanging out between games. I can see why no one would want to talk to you…but a lot of info is shared.

Ooooh. So name the team, Douche.

If you continue to use that term on this page I am going to remove your posts and then all of your excellent arguments will be lost forever. Okay?