Official TJ Admissions Decisions Results for the Class of 2025

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the thing: literally no one benefits from a situation where huge numbers of students are admitted who have no business at TJ.

The people who are in charge of admissions at TJ have been for the better part of a decade now. They know what they’re doing. Everyone involved with this process knows that heads will roll if the Class of 2025 is an objective disaster. Cool your heels and wait and see what happens before you go crying that TJ will be ruined.

I'm picturing this comment to a backdrop of Native Americans being reassured by English settlers.

"They know what they're doing." That's the problem.

[Anonymous]

The true purpose of this whole TJ reform thing is about white liberals swapping Asians with more white students. White racists got what they wanted.

[Anonymous]

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The people who are in charge of admissions at TJ have been for the better part of a decade now. They know what they’re doing. Everyone involved with this process knows that heads will roll if the Class of 2025 is an objective disaster. Cool your heels and wait and see what happens before you go crying that TJ will be ruined.

If they know what they're doing, then that implies they admitted kids correctly for the better part of a decade. So, why the need for reforms if the committee already knew what it was doing?

In the past, the committee had a much more robust application packet to use for their holistic review. This year, they have GPA and a couple essays. Maybe that's sufficient for them to do a decent job. Maybe it isn't.

I want to see just how many Algebra I kids were admitted in the Class of 2025. If the number is comparable to previous years, then I'll feel reassured that the admissions crew knew what they were doing. If it's vastly larger than previous years, I'll assume that something went very wrong with the applications process, and the class of 2025 will be a complete disaster.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the thing: literally no one benefits from a situation where huge numbers of students are admitted who have no business at TJ.

The people who are in charge of admissions at TJ have been for the better part of a decade now. They know what they’re doing. Everyone involved with this process knows that heads will roll if the Class of 2025 is an objective disaster. Cool your heels and wait and see what happens before you go crying that TJ will be ruined.

I'm picturing this comment to a backdrop of Native Americans being reassured by English settlers.

…. That’s on the Mount Rushmore of most ignorant things ever said on this forum. And that’s a pretty high bar to clear.

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They probably wrote about it in their essays - which are fairly easily fact-checked these days.

I thought the essay was about solving a math problem, not open ended to talk about whatever you want.

There were multiple essays. They found most of the top kids for sure. A few may have been missed but that happens every year no matter what process they use.

Okay. That makes me feel much better about the process. I thought it was just GPA and one math problem solving essay, which could easily miss the top 10 in state Mathcounts and the AIME qualifiers.

That's right. No scope for exaggeration in an essay. Or rather that's the point. Get in the subjective flowery essay people that and definitely don't do an objective test that gets the serious people. I can just say I love math and science. Don't need to pass a pre-req to show I can do it. Less work for everyone now! That makes me feel so much better.

You don't know how admissions works apparently. Let the professionals handle this.

I hope it is not just professional manipulation to achieve a certain end result.

Here’s the thing: literally no one benefits from a situation where huge numbers of students are admitted who have no business at TJ.

The people who are in charge of admissions at TJ have been for the better part of a decade now. They know what they’re doing. Everyone involved with this process knows that heads will roll if the Class of 2025 is an objective disaster. Cool your heels and wait and see what happens before you go crying that TJ will be ruined.

I still like predictions and wagering myself. Let's see some real predictions on numbers of drop outs, average SAT scores, etc. There are so many know-it-alls on this forum, this should be entertaining.

Average SAT scores will drop because the admissions office is no longer overselecting for test taking ability. That much is obvious.

Number of drop outs will probably rise because the class is almost 20% bigger.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s the thing: literally no one benefits from a situation where huge numbers of students are admitted who have no business at TJ.

The people who are in charge of admissions at TJ have been for the better part of a decade now. They know what they’re doing. Everyone involved with this process knows that heads will roll if the Class of 2025 is an objective disaster. Cool your heels and wait and see what happens before you go crying that TJ will be ruined.

I'm picturing this comment to a backdrop of Native Americans being reassured by English settlers.

…. That’s on the Mount Rushmore of most ignorant things ever said on this forum. And that’s a pretty high bar to clear.

I'm not sure about any of this but pretty sure next years class will be about the same as the year befores.

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They probably wrote about it in their essays - which are fairly easily fact-checked these days.

I thought the essay was about solving a math problem, not open ended to talk about whatever you want.

There were multiple essays. They found most of the top kids for sure. A few may have been missed but that happens every year no matter what process they use.

Okay. That makes me feel much better about the process. I thought it was just GPA and one math problem solving essay, which could easily miss the top 10 in state Mathcounts and the AIME qualifiers.

That's right. No scope for exaggeration in an essay. Or rather that's the point. Get in the subjective flowery essay people that and definitely don't do an objective test that gets the serious people. I can just say I love math and science. Don't need to pass a pre-req to show I can do it. Less work for everyone now! That makes me feel so much better.

You don't know how admissions works apparently. Let the professionals handle this.

I hope it is not just professional manipulation to achieve a certain end result.

Here’s the thing: literally no one benefits from a situation where huge numbers of students are admitted who have no business at TJ.

The people who are in charge of admissions at TJ have been for the better part of a decade now. They know what they’re doing. Everyone involved with this process knows that heads will roll if the Class of 2025 is an objective disaster. Cool your heels and wait and see what happens before you go crying that TJ will be ruined.

I still like predictions and wagering myself. Let's see some real predictions on numbers of drop outs, average SAT scores, etc. There are so many know-it-alls on this forum, this should be entertaining.

Average SAT scores will drop because the admissions office is no longer overselecting for test taking ability. That much is obvious.

Number of drop outs will probably rise because the class is almost 20% bigger.

Really? I think the SATs will go up since they're more focused on innate ability rather than selecting some rich kids who got the answers at Curie.

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They probably wrote about it in their essays - which are fairly easily fact-checked these days.

I thought the essay was about solving a math problem, not open ended to talk about whatever you want.

There were multiple essays. They found most of the top kids for sure. A few may have been missed but that happens every year no matter what process they use.

Okay. That makes me feel much better about the process. I thought it was just GPA and one math problem solving essay, which could easily miss the top 10 in state Mathcounts and the AIME qualifiers.

That's right. No scope for exaggeration in an essay. Or rather that's the point. Get in the subjective flowery essay people that and definitely don't do an objective test that gets the serious people. I can just say I love math and science. Don't need to pass a pre-req to show I can do it. Less work for everyone now! That makes me feel so much better.

You don't know how admissions works apparently. Let the professionals handle this.

I hope it is not just professional manipulation to achieve a certain end result.

Here’s the thing: literally no one benefits from a situation where huge numbers of students are admitted who have no business at TJ.

The people who are in charge of admissions at TJ have been for the better part of a decade now. They know what they’re doing. Everyone involved with this process knows that heads will roll if the Class of 2025 is an objective disaster. Cool your heels and wait and see what happens before you go crying that TJ will be ruined.

I still like predictions and wagering myself. Let's see some real predictions on numbers of drop outs, average SAT scores, etc. There are so many know-it-alls on this forum, this should be entertaining.

Average SAT scores will drop because the admissions office is no longer overselecting for test taking ability. That much is obvious.

Number of drop outs will probably rise because the class is almost 20% bigger.

Really? I think the SATs will go up since they're more focused on innate ability rather than selecting some rich kids who got the answers at Curie.

Yes. Given the almighty wisdom of the professionals who are running the selection process in selecting for innate abilities, it should get better on every metric. SAT scores, STEM and other competitions, scholarships etc. I would wager my money on it.

[Anonymous]

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They probably wrote about it in their essays - which are fairly easily fact-checked these days.

I thought the essay was about solving a math problem, not open ended to talk about whatever you want.

There were multiple essays. They found most of the top kids for sure. A few may have been missed but that happens every year no matter what process they use.

Okay. That makes me feel much better about the process. I thought it was just GPA and one math problem solving essay, which could easily miss the top 10 in state Mathcounts and the AIME qualifiers.

That's right. No scope for exaggeration in an essay. Or rather that's the point. Get in the subjective flowery essay people that and definitely don't do an objective test that gets the serious people. I can just say I love math and science. Don't need to pass a pre-req to show I can do it. Less work for everyone now! That makes me feel so much better.

You don't know how admissions works apparently. Let the professionals handle this.

I hope it is not just professional manipulation to achieve a certain end result.

Here’s the thing: literally no one benefits from a situation where huge numbers of students are admitted who have no business at TJ.

The people who are in charge of admissions at TJ have been for the better part of a decade now. They know what they’re doing. Everyone involved with this process knows that heads will roll if the Class of 2025 is an objective disaster. Cool your heels and wait and see what happens before you go crying that TJ will be ruined.

I still like predictions and wagering myself. Let's see some real predictions on numbers of drop outs, average SAT scores, etc. There are so many know-it-alls on this forum, this should be entertaining.

Average SAT scores will drop because the admissions office is no longer overselecting for test taking ability. That much is obvious.

Number of drop outs will probably rise because the class is almost 20% bigger.

Really? I think the SATs will go up since they're more focused on innate ability rather than selecting some rich kids who got the answers at Curie.

Yes. Given the almighty wisdom of the professionals who are running the selection process in selecting for innate abilities, it should get better on every metric. SAT scores, STEM and other competitions, scholarships etc. I would wager my money on it.

SAT scores will go down. Promise. I don’t care and neither should anyone else, but they will. Absolutely no doubt in my mind.

STEM competition winners will remain about the same, because the top end of the class is going to be the same as it was to begin with.

Scholarship money and college outcomes will go up significantly because of the vastly improved academic environment than necessarily results from having a greater diversity or perspectives, strengths and interests. The school experience should improve by orders of magnitude - ESPECIALLY for the hard-STEM champions who will be better able to find their niche and identity at the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The true purpose of this whole TJ reform thing is about white liberals swapping Asians with more white students. White racists got what they wanted.

I was suspicious of this. Without reviewing 28 pages, did numbers come out yet proving it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The true purpose of this whole TJ reform thing is about white liberals swapping Asians with more white students. White racists got what they wanted.

I was suspicious of this. Without reviewing 28 pages, did numbers come out yet proving it?

I meant 70 something pages. wow

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The true purpose of this whole TJ reform thing is about white liberals swapping Asians with more white students. White racists got what they wanted.

I was suspicious of this. Without reviewing 28 pages, did numbers come out yet proving it?

White enrollment increased by around 5%. Asian enrollment decreased around 20%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The true purpose of this whole TJ reform thing is about white liberals swapping Asians with more white students. White racists got what they wanted.

I was suspicious of this. Without reviewing 28 pages, did numbers come out yet proving it?

Short answer. Yes. That's exactly what happened.

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They probably wrote about it in their essays - which are fairly easily fact-checked these days.

I thought the essay was about solving a math problem, not open ended to talk about whatever you want.

There were multiple essays. They found most of the top kids for sure. A few may have been missed but that happens every year no matter what process they use.

Okay. That makes me feel much better about the process. I thought it was just GPA and one math problem solving essay, which could easily miss the top 10 in state Mathcounts and the AIME qualifiers.

That's right. No scope for exaggeration in an essay. Or rather that's the point. Get in the subjective flowery essay people that and definitely don't do an objective test that gets the serious people. I can just say I love math and science. Don't need to pass a pre-req to show I can do it. Less work for everyone now! That makes me feel so much better.

You don't know how admissions works apparently. Let the professionals handle this.

I hope it is not just professional manipulation to achieve a certain end result.

Here’s the thing: literally no one benefits from a situation where huge numbers of students are admitted who have no business at TJ.

The people who are in charge of admissions at TJ have been for the better part of a decade now. They know what they’re doing. Everyone involved with this process knows that heads will roll if the Class of 2025 is an objective disaster. Cool your heels and wait and see what happens before you go crying that TJ will be ruined.

I still like predictions and wagering myself. Let's see some real predictions on numbers of drop outs, average SAT scores, etc. There are so many know-it-alls on this forum, this should be entertaining.

Average SAT scores will drop because the admissions office is no longer overselecting for test taking ability. That much is obvious.

Number of drop outs will probably rise because the class is almost 20% bigger.

Really? I think the SATs will go up since they're more focused on innate ability rather than selecting some rich kids who got the answers at Curie.

Yes. Given the almighty wisdom of the professionals who are running the selection process in selecting for innate abilities, it should get better on every metric. SAT scores, STEM and other competitions, scholarships etc. I would wager my money on it.

SAT scores will go down. Promise. I don’t care and neither should anyone else, but they will. Absolutely no doubt in my mind.

STEM competition winners will remain about the same, because the top end of the class is going to be the same as it was to begin with.

Scholarship money and college outcomes will go up significantly because of the vastly improved academic environment than necessarily results from having a greater diversity or perspectives, strengths and interests. The school experience should improve by orders of magnitude - ESPECIALLY for the hard-STEM champions who will be better able to find their niche and identity at the school.

In other words, Utopia.

[Anonymous]

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They probably wrote about it in their essays - which are fairly easily fact-checked these days.

I thought the essay was about solving a math problem, not open ended to talk about whatever you want.

There were multiple essays. They found most of the top kids for sure. A few may have been missed but that happens every year no matter what process they use.

Okay. That makes me feel much better about the process. I thought it was just GPA and one math problem solving essay, which could easily miss the top 10 in state Mathcounts and the AIME qualifiers.

That's right. No scope for exaggeration in an essay. Or rather that's the point. Get in the subjective flowery essay people that and definitely don't do an objective test that gets the serious people. I can just say I love math and science. Don't need to pass a pre-req to show I can do it. Less work for everyone now! That makes me feel so much better.

You don't know how admissions works apparently. Let the professionals handle this.

I hope it is not just professional manipulation to achieve a certain end result.

Here’s the thing: literally no one benefits from a situation where huge numbers of students are admitted who have no business at TJ.

The people who are in charge of admissions at TJ have been for the better part of a decade now. They know what they’re doing. Everyone involved with this process knows that heads will roll if the Class of 2025 is an objective disaster. Cool your heels and wait and see what happens before you go crying that TJ will be ruined.

I still like predictions and wagering myself. Let's see some real predictions on numbers of drop outs, average SAT scores, etc. There are so many know-it-alls on this forum, this should be entertaining.

Average SAT scores will drop because the admissions office is no longer overselecting for test taking ability. That much is obvious.

Number of drop outs will probably rise because the class is almost 20% bigger.

Really? I think the SATs will go up since they're more focused on innate ability rather than selecting some rich kids who got the answers at Curie.

Yes. Given the almighty wisdom of the professionals who are running the selection process in selecting for innate abilities, it should get better on every metric. SAT scores, STEM and other competitions, scholarships etc. I would wager my money on it.

SAT scores will go down. Promise. I don’t care and neither should anyone else, but they will. Absolutely no doubt in my mind.

STEM competition winners will remain about the same, because the top end of the class is going to be the same as it was to begin with.

Scholarship money and college outcomes will go up significantly because of the vastly improved academic environment than necessarily results from having a greater diversity or perspectives, strengths and interests. The school experience should improve by orders of magnitude - ESPECIALLY for the hard-STEM champions who will be better able to find their niche and identity at the school.

In other words, Utopia.

Thank you for pinching these knuckleheads...