Are you for real? I really hope you're trolling. I'm afraid you're not. |
1. What criminal matter has the United States opened into former VP Joe Biden or his son, Hunter? That is what the treaty refers to. Also, if there were such a legal matter, it's not the President's job to get help, nor should he, considering Biden may be his 2020 opponent. 2. We don't need a transcript when we have the texts. And these texts are crystal clear. 3. There's evidence of a cover-up in the texts. Pompeo lied on national TV to cover up. Pence is trying to play dumb to cover up. 4. The White House and State Dept are refusing to turn over documents and make witnesses available for a legitimate Congressional impeachment inquiry. That's obstruction. |
The ambassador is part of Trump’s administration. He can remove her if he chooses. Notice how there has been no vote, as traditional, which would allow Rs to participate in the investigation. That’s very telling. I was wondering why all the speculative threads were at the top of this sub-forum. Now I know why.... |
This is a smoking gun against Trump? |
Sure he can. He can remove any and all ambassadors, good ones and bad ones. Should he? Well, he's the president. He's supposed to have sense and wisdom and, where he's lacking those, good advisors. But he removed an experienced career ambassador because Giuliani didn't like her, because she was obstructing his efforts to ... make Ukraine investigate Biden for political campaign purposes. Volker's testimony and texts/emails + all of the public and published facts of the spring and summer = BAD. |
Just because she’s a career diplomat doesn’t mean she should keep her job. I’m amazed at the outrage over Trump asking Ukraine to get to the bottom of whether or not Biden’s son was in the job as a favor to Biden, given the Steele dossier, and the FISA warrants that resulted from that. I’m also amazed that you believe that the texts - where it explicitly says that Trump said no quid-pro-quo, is a smoking gun. If Pelosi and Schiff are so sure of what they have, open the investigation process to a vote and let the Rs participate. |
This. Sounds to me like another crazy witch hunt. |
I really really hate Trump but this has too much of a bow on it. Bill Taylor seems like he was trying to set someone up with the comment. The other guy was smart to take it off text. I need to read the rest of the texts but I am looking forward to Bill Taylor coming in front of Congress - he seems like he may have some stories to tell. |
1. So, Joe Biden and his son, Hunter are off limits. As Kamala said, "leave Joe alone." LOL 2. Yes, the texts are crystal clear that there was no quid pro quo and that the effort was to ensure transparency and reforms on the part of Ukraine. 3. No evidence of cover up. Pompeo did not lie. Pence? LOL. Now, if you want to talk about Schiff and his lies..... he did get 4 Pinocchios. 4. NOPE. It is only "official" if there is a vote. Nancy can take a vote if she wants the docs. |
Comparing Giuliani to Steele -- you've lost it. I'd say you should have another coffee but it probably wouldn't hlep. |
Hah. Taylor knew what was going on, so did Sondland. So do we. |
yes, it is. that last text is an absolutely hysterical and canonical example of CYA. Anyone who can read and who has ever been remotely involved in tricky political situations can see that. |
Another? There *never has been* a crazy witch hunt. There was a legitimate investigation into Russian meddling in our last presidential election that Trump managed to make about himself. The findings of that investigation should be disturbing to all Americans. Now we have another legitimate investigation of obvious wrongdoing. It is unfortunate that you lack any moral compass and deceive yourself in this way in order to prop up your false hope in this worthless POTUS. |
Lots of spinners at it again this morning. What Trump did was impeachable. At its core, this is a President abusing his office to win an election. That is not acceptable, and you should not accept this from any President of any political party. It's funny how much clarity you'd have on this if the President was not of your party ![]() Whether he will be removed from office depends on whether public opinion is willing to let it slide, again, as they let many, many things slide since he started his campaign. The GOP Senators will not act unless their seats are in danger. If he is not removed from office, I hope the people will remove him at the ballot box. |
(also note the 5 hour time gap as Sonland goes offline to consult with his lawyers to figure out how to get out of the hole that Taylor has exposed.) |