Johnny Depp trial in Fairfax County

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Anonymous wrote:Standard to prove defamation:

To prove prima facie defamation, a plaintiff must show four things: 1) a false statement purporting to be fact; 2) publication or communication of that statement to a third person; 3) fault amounting to at least negligence; and 4) damages, or some harm caused to the person or entity who is the subject of the statement.

To prove 1 you need to prove that she herself did not believe she was in an abusive relationship when she wrote that article. And the article did not name him, so you are trying to say that she lied in saying she was in an abusive relationship. This bar is NOT met by JD.

2) This is met by publication in WAPO BUT is irrelevant if you have not proved #1

3/4) You have to prove that she has caused him injury via the op-ed. She may have caused him injury in many OTHER formats, but that op-ed did not cause the injury. Arguably, if you believe his side (and I frankly do not), the actual thing she did that damaged his career is contribute to his hand injury. That set back the production of Pirates 4 by a month and cost disney a crap ton of money and officially made him not just chronically late and occasionally unreliable, but a straight up liability. But that is not what he is suing her for, he's suing her for an op-ed published after their divorce and after the toxicity of their relationship and his substance abuse problems were WELL reported on. The problem with claiming the op-ed caused in injury is that so much injury was caused before.

So the only piece he has in the bag is #2. He does not have 1/3/4 when you consider the fact that what this actual legal case orbits around is the op-ed, not all this extra information they are presenting.

Judge did not dismiss the case at the close of JD's case; therefore judge disagrees with you.

The reasoning to bring the suit was legally sound, but they still need to prove it. The judge did not agree it was provable, just that it was a legitimate complaint.

If Heard's lawyers established that it was impossible for Depp to prove his claims trial, the judge should have dismissed it on a motion for summary judgment. It wasn't dismissed, though I heard they tried to get it thrown out 3 times. Therefore, the jury will decide if the claim, as described in the jury instruction, has been proven. Not the judge and not the readers of DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Standard to prove defamation:

To prove prima facie defamation, a plaintiff must show four things: 1) a false statement purporting to be fact; 2) publication or communication of that statement to a third person; 3) fault amounting to at least negligence; and 4) damages, or some harm caused to the person or entity who is the subject of the statement.

To prove 1 you need to prove that she herself did not believe she was in an abusive relationship when she wrote that article. And the article did not name him, so you are trying to say that she lied in saying she was in an abusive relationship. This bar is NOT met by JD.

2) This is met by publication in WAPO BUT is irrelevant if you have not proved #1

3/4) You have to prove that she has caused him injury via the op-ed. She may have caused him injury in many OTHER formats, but that op-ed did not cause the injury. Arguably, if you believe his side (and I frankly do not), the actual thing she did that damaged his career is contribute to his hand injury. That set back the production of Pirates 4 by a month and cost disney a crap ton of money and officially made him not just chronically late and occasionally unreliable, but a straight up liability. But that is not what he is suing her for, he's suing her for an op-ed published after their divorce and after the toxicity of their relationship and his substance abuse problems were WELL reported on. The problem with claiming the op-ed caused in injury is that so much injury was caused before.

So the only piece he has in the bag is #2. He does not have 1/3/4 when you consider the fact that what this actual legal case orbits around is the op-ed, not all this extra information they are presenting.

Judge did not dismiss the case at the close of JD's case; therefore judge disagrees with you.

The reasoning to bring the suit was legally sound, but they still need to prove it. The judge did not agree it was provable, just that it was a legitimate complaint.

If Heard's lawyers established that it was impossible for Depp to prove his claims trial, the judge should have dismissed it on a motion for summary judgment. It wasn't dismissed, though I heard they tried to get it thrown out 3 times. Therefore, the jury will decide if the claim, as described in the jury instruction, has been proven. Not the judge and not the readers of DCUM.

NP. Correct, and he's definitely going to lose.

[Anonymous]

How long do these types of trials usually last? 6 weeks seems mindboggling.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it that Depp can't form a coherent sentence and an answer?
It is beyond painful to watch him mumble like a drugged person.

He probably IS a drugged person. His bodyguard just testified that he saw Depp use marijuana “daily.”

I simply cannot get over the chaotic way these people lived. They seem so miserable.

I don't know how he lived before Heard, but the two of them together seemed to result in a lot of chaos, arguments, wasted time, and wasted energy. Time could have been better spent with his kids...

While they did not appear to be violent or as toxic, his relationships prior to Vanessa Paradis were also volatile and substance fueled.

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Anonymous wrote:Amber switched her PR rep…I guess she realize how damaging the trial has been to her.

https://nypost.com/2022/05/01/amber-heard-fires-pr-team-days-before-shes-set-to-testify-after-tons-of-bad-press/

Amber didn't have a choice in this. She obviously knew how damaging it would be. And since he has no chance at winning on the merits, that makes it clear he's bankrupting himself to humiliate her.

Amber didn’t have a choice in changing her PR firm in the middle of a trial?

No she did not have a choice in participating in this event despite knowing that it would be a PR disaster. No PR rep is responsible for this being a mess, no one could have prevented it (beyond of course preventing the relationship itself and the choices of JD/AH)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Amber switched her PR rep…I guess she realize how damaging the trial has been to her.

https://nypost.com/2022/05/01/amber-heard-fires-pr-team-days-before-shes-set-to-testify-after-tons-of-bad-press/

Amber didn't have a choice in this. She obviously knew how damaging it would be. And since he has no chance at winning on the merits, that makes it clear he's bankrupting himself to humiliate her.

Amber didn’t have a choice in changing her PR firm in the middle of a trial?

No she did not have a choice in participating in this event despite knowing that it would be a PR disaster. No PR rep is responsible for this being a mess, no one could have prevented it (beyond of course preventing the relationship itself and the choices of JD/AH)

True…that’s why it makes no sense for her to change her PR firm now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Amber switched her PR rep…I guess she realize how damaging the trial has been to her.

https://nypost.com/2022/05/01/amber-heard-fires-pr-team-days-before-shes-set-to-testify-after-tons-of-bad-press/

Amber didn't have a choice in this. She obviously knew how damaging it would be. And since he has no chance at winning on the merits, that makes it clear he's bankrupting himself to humiliate her.

Amber didn’t have a choice in changing her PR firm in the middle of a trial?

No she did not have a choice in participating in this event despite knowing that it would be a PR disaster. No PR rep is responsible for this being a mess, no one could have prevented it (beyond of course preventing the relationship itself and the choices of JD/AH)

True…that’s why it makes no sense for her to change her PR firm now.

NP. Huh? In what way?

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Anonymous wrote:My god - what grown ass woman poops in her bed and leaves it on her husbands side as “practical joke”? She’s revolting and crazy.

What grown ass man dips his cut off finger in blood or paint and writes on the walls?

Don't be ridiculous. Amber's act was predetermined and truly disguisting.

That’s why I call her Amber Turd.

#mepoo

Things like this take away from the sincerity of the claim he was abused and lean in to the claim that this is all in the goal of humiliating her, FYI

What's the other option - to let her get away with it? She should be exposed for what she did, including her poop project.

[Anonymous]

Are Amber Heard's lawyers any good? As a layperson when I watch them and they don't seem to be any good at connecting with the witnesses. They are very aggressive.

[Anonymous]

The fact that the judge didn't grant the motion to dismiss doesn't mean that much. Judges are very sensitive to being reversed on appeal and are very cautious. You are much more easily reversed on appeal for excluding an entire case on a motion to strike than you are for allowing the case to just go forward. It means nothing other than this judge is playing it safe like most would and knows the chance of an appeal is likely. And, it is so obvious that no matter the outcome, one or both of these litigitious assholes are going to appeal to the Court of Appeals because neither one of them can just this thing go!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is it that Depp can't form a coherent sentence and an answer?
It is beyond painful to watch him mumble like a drugged person.

He probably IS a drugged person. His bodyguard just testified that he saw Depp use marijuana “daily.”

I simply cannot get over the chaotic way these people lived. They seem so miserable.

I don't know how he lived before Heard, but the two of them together seemed to result in a lot of chaos, arguments, wasted time, and wasted energy. Time could have been better spent with his kids...

His kids are in their 20s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are Amber Heard's lawyers any good? As a layperson when I watch them and they don't seem to be any good at connecting with the witnesses. They are very aggressive.

They’re all his witnesses so far. Why would they be trying to establish a connection?!

Of course her attorneys are good.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are Amber Heard's lawyers any good? As a layperson when I watch them and they don't seem to be any good at connecting with the witnesses. They are very aggressive.

They’re all his witnesses so far. Why would they be trying to establish a connection?!

Of course her attorneys are good.

Because they are not getting the results they need. Right now they look like bafoons.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are Amber Heard's lawyers any good? As a layperson when I watch them and they don't seem to be any good at connecting with the witnesses. They are very aggressive.

They’re all his witnesses so far. Why would they be trying to establish a connection?!

Of course her attorneys are good.

Yes, the Tik Tok stuff is ridiculous. Her lawyers have done fine. A lot of the criticism is coming from people who only have seen lawyers on TV and that's not how it works at all.

And yes, you approach a witness differently on cross examination. The rules are quote literally different regarding how you can ask them questions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My god - what grown ass woman poops in her bed and leaves it on her husbands side as “practical joke”? She’s revolting and crazy.

What grown ass man dips his cut off finger in blood or paint and writes on the walls?

Don't be ridiculous. Amber's act was predetermined and truly disguisting.

That’s why I call her Amber Turd.

#mepoo

Things like this take away from the sincerity of the claim he was abused and lean in to the claim that this is all in the goal of humiliating her, FYI

What's the other option - to let her get away with it? She should be exposed for what she did, including her poop project.

+1 At least he exposed her true colors and level of crazy. She'll never work again.