Man asked woman to leash her dog in a public park -- she called the police on him

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Question - I'm assuming there would not be this amount of outrage (or any at all) if she had not called the police? Or if she hadn't referred to him as 'African American'? What if she had just said 'F U, I'll do what I want and won't leash my dog' (asshole move for sure, but things like this surely happen every day among people of all races). I'm just trying to differentiate between racist behavior and being a run of the mill asshole (I am white, but have both been the asshole and had others of all races be the asshole to me throughout my life).

This may sound ignorant but I'm trying to understand.

It was the combination: calling him AA on a call to the police. She knew what that meant. Add in some lies about how he was threatening her (he had stopped even offering the dog treats by the time she made the call) and the fact that the tape shows him talking calmly while she fake-cries to punch up the effect on the 911 operator.

- white birdwatcher

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Question - I'm assuming there would not be this amount of outrage (or any at all) if she had not called the police? Or if she hadn't referred to him as 'African American'? What if she had just said 'F U, I'll do what I want and won't leash my dog' (asshole move for sure, but things like this surely happen every day among people of all races). I'm just trying to differentiate between racist behavior and being a run of the mill asshole (I am white, but have both been the asshole and had others of all races be the asshole to me throughout my life).

This may sound ignorant but I'm trying to understand.

I think we've exhausted the hypotheticals on this particular incident, and there is a lot of trolling going on. Why don't you start a new thread with your question?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Question - I'm assuming there would not be this amount of outrage (or any at all) if she had not called the police? Or if she hadn't referred to him as 'African American'? What if she had just said 'F U, I'll do what I want and won't leash my dog' (asshole move for sure, but things like this surely happen every day among people of all races). I'm just trying to differentiate between racist behavior and being a run of the mill asshole (I am white, but have both been the asshole and had others of all races be the asshole to me throughout my life).

This may sound ignorant but I'm trying to understand.

I think we've exhausted the hypotheticals on this particular incident, and there is a lot of trolling going on. Why don't you start a new thread with your question?

Yikes. Sorry I didn't read through all 75 pages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Question - I'm assuming there would not be this amount of outrage (or any at all) if she had not called the police? Or if she hadn't referred to him as 'African American'? What if she had just said 'F U, I'll do what I want and won't leash my dog' (asshole move for sure, but things like this surely happen every day among people of all races). I'm just trying to differentiate between racist behavior and being a run of the mill asshole (I am white, but have both been the asshole and had others of all races be the asshole to me throughout my life).

This may sound ignorant but I'm trying to understand.

She knew exactly what she was doing by saying "I'm going to tell them that an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN is threatening me". Then she said it again, before calling the police and claiming that he - excuse me, that an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN, was threatening her and her dog. In normal circumstances where there is conflict and someone feels strongly that they need police intervention/help, they call and explain what is happening. The operator will then ask for a description of the other party/suspect/perpetrator. By premeditating her fake distress and preempting the description, she planned to turn a very busy police department into a weapon by falsely claiming to be threatened by a *gasp* BLACK man. She was hoping that she would be seen as an innocent white woman who was being attacked in Central Park by a black man who would cause her harm. What she didn't know that she was getting was a Harvard grad who is on the Board of Directors of the Audobon Society.

When she got on the phone she began to wail about this AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN as if she were being attacked and even ended the call with a sense of urgency as if her life were in danger. This was unnecessary and racist.

White people are certainly able to experience conflict with black people and NOT be racist. She could have said "Mind your own business, jerk", "Don't give my dog treats, dork", or "F*ck off, birdman". She would have been rude, but not racist. If she truly felt threatened she could have just walked away, and certainly not aggressively approached him as shown at the start of the video.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Question - I'm assuming there would not be this amount of outrage (or any at all) if she had not called the police? Or if she hadn't referred to him as 'African American'? What if she had just said 'F U, I'll do what I want and won't leash my dog' (asshole move for sure, but things like this surely happen every day among people of all races). I'm just trying to differentiate between racist behavior and being a run of the mill asshole (I am white, but have both been the asshole and had others of all races be the asshole to me throughout my life).

This may sound ignorant but I'm trying to understand.

She knew exactly what she was doing by saying "I'm going to tell them that an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN is threatening me". Then she said it again, before calling the police and claiming that he - excuse me, that an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN, was threatening her and her dog. In normal circumstances where there is conflict and someone feels strongly that they need police intervention/help, they call and explain what is happening. The operator will then ask for a description of the other party/suspect/perpetrator. By premeditating her fake distress and preempting the description, she planned to turn a very busy police department into a weapon by falsely claiming to be threatened by a *gasp* BLACK man. She was hoping that she would be seen as an innocent white woman who was being attacked in Central Park by a black man who would cause her harm. What she didn't know that she was getting was a Harvard grad who is on the Board of Directors of the Audobon Society.

When she got on the phone she began to wail about this AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN as if she were being attacked and even ended the call with a sense of urgency as if her life were in danger. This was unnecessary and racist.

White people are certainly able to experience conflict with black people and NOT be racist. She could have said "Mind your own business, jerk", "Don't give my dog treats, dork", or "F*ck off, birdman". She would have been rude, but not racist. If she truly felt threatened she could have just walked away, and certainly not aggressively approached him as shown at the start of the video.

PP - thank you for this response, it was very helpful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Question - I'm assuming there would not be this amount of outrage (or any at all) if she had not called the police? Or if she hadn't referred to him as 'African American'? What if she had just said 'F U, I'll do what I want and won't leash my dog' (asshole move for sure, but things like this surely happen every day among people of all races). I'm just trying to differentiate between racist behavior and being a run of the mill asshole (I am white, but have both been the asshole and had others of all races be the asshole to me throughout my life).

This may sound ignorant but I'm trying to understand.

She knew exactly what she was doing by saying "I'm going to tell them that an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN is threatening me". Then she said it again, before calling the police and claiming that he - excuse me, that an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN, was threatening her and her dog. In normal circumstances where there is conflict and someone feels strongly that they need police intervention/help, they call and explain what is happening. The operator will then ask for a description of the other party/suspect/perpetrator. By premeditating her fake distress and preempting the description, she planned to turn a very busy police department into a weapon by falsely claiming to be threatened by a *gasp* BLACK man. She was hoping that she would be seen as an innocent white woman who was being attacked in Central Park by a black man who would cause her harm. What she didn't know that she was getting was a Harvard grad who is on the Board of Directors of the Audobon Society.

When she got on the phone she began to wail about this AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN as if she were being attacked and even ended the call with a sense of urgency as if her life were in danger. This was unnecessary and racist.

White people are certainly able to experience conflict with black people and NOT be racist. She could have said "Mind your own business, jerk", "Don't give my dog treats, dork", or "F*ck off, birdman". She would have been rude, but not racist. If she truly felt threatened she could have just walked away, and certainly not aggressively approached him as shown at the start of the video.

I think she was approaching him to ask him to stop videoing her. Is this just a thing now, we can all video each other all the time?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Woman loses her dog, her job, but gets the guy. I first suggested a rom com movie but have decided to change it into a musical. Maybe Idina Menzel could star. Cooper + Cooper is my current working title. I know we have suggested that bird watcher Cooper might be gay but in the musical he can be bi and found "the one." He feels bad about her getting media scrutiny and losing her job and her dog and goes to her apartment and they fall in love, get married and watch birdies together. Some of my songs include "Put a Leash on Me", "Birds Can't See Color," "Arrested by Love", and "I'm not Karen."

You are disgusting. Why do you think anyone - man or woman - would want to have a relationship with a skank Nazi like Amy Cooper? Just because your own options are limited to uncle leroy and cousin bubba does not mean that others are as indiscriminate as you...

Comments like uncle leroy and cousin bubba almost make you sound like you have some hidden prejudices. Where do you work as I don't want to support anyone that would employ you!

Fox News.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Question - I'm assuming there would not be this amount of outrage (or any at all) if she had not called the police? Or if she hadn't referred to him as 'African American'? What if she had just said 'F U, I'll do what I want and won't leash my dog' (asshole move for sure, but things like this surely happen every day among people of all races). I'm just trying to differentiate between racist behavior and being a run of the mill asshole (I am white, but have both been the asshole and had others of all races be the asshole to me throughout my life).

This may sound ignorant but I'm trying to understand.

She knew exactly what she was doing by saying "I'm going to tell them that an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN is threatening me". Then she said it again, before calling the police and claiming that he - excuse me, that an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN, was threatening her and her dog. In normal circumstances where there is conflict and someone feels strongly that they need police intervention/help, they call and explain what is happening. The operator will then ask for a description of the other party/suspect/perpetrator. By premeditating her fake distress and preempting the description, she planned to turn a very busy police department into a weapon by falsely claiming to be threatened by a *gasp* BLACK man. She was hoping that she would be seen as an innocent white woman who was being attacked in Central Park by a black man who would cause her harm. What she didn't know that she was getting was a Harvard grad who is on the Board of Directors of the Audobon Society.

When she got on the phone she began to wail about this AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN as if she were being attacked and even ended the call with a sense of urgency as if her life were in danger. This was unnecessary and racist.

White people are certainly able to experience conflict with black people and NOT be racist. She could have said "Mind your own business, jerk", "Don't give my dog treats, dork", or "F*ck off, birdman". She would have been rude, but not racist. If she truly felt threatened she could have just walked away, and certainly not aggressively approached him as shown at the start of the video.

Now that's just spouting nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Question - I'm assuming there would not be this amount of outrage (or any at all) if she had not called the police? Or if she hadn't referred to him as 'African American'? What if she had just said 'F U, I'll do what I want and won't leash my dog' (asshole move for sure, but things like this surely happen every day among people of all races). I'm just trying to differentiate between racist behavior and being a run of the mill asshole (I am white, but have both been the asshole and had others of all races be the asshole to me throughout my life).

This may sound ignorant but I'm trying to understand.

She knew exactly what she was doing by saying "I'm going to tell them that an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN is threatening me". Then she said it again, before calling the police and claiming that he - excuse me, that an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN, was threatening her and her dog. In normal circumstances where there is conflict and someone feels strongly that they need police intervention/help, they call and explain what is happening. The operator will then ask for a description of the other party/suspect/perpetrator. By premeditating her fake distress and preempting the description, she planned to turn a very busy police department into a weapon by falsely claiming to be threatened by a *gasp* BLACK man. She was hoping that she would be seen as an innocent white woman who was being attacked in Central Park by a black man who would cause her harm. What she didn't know that she was getting was a Harvard grad who is on the Board of Directors of the Audobon Society.

When she got on the phone she began to wail about this AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN as if she were being attacked and even ended the call with a sense of urgency as if her life were in danger. This was unnecessary and racist.

White people are certainly able to experience conflict with black people and NOT be racist. She could have said "Mind your own business, jerk", "Don't give my dog treats, dork", or "F*ck off, birdman". She would have been rude, but not racist. If she truly felt threatened she could have just walked away, and certainly not aggressively approached him as shown at the start of the video.

I think she was approaching him to ask him to stop videoing her. Is this just a thing now, we can all video each other all the time?

It's pretty appalling, isn't it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Question - I'm assuming there would not be this amount of outrage (or any at all) if she had not called the police? Or if she hadn't referred to him as 'African American'? What if she had just said 'F U, I'll do what I want and won't leash my dog' (asshole move for sure, but things like this surely happen every day among people of all races). I'm just trying to differentiate between racist behavior and being a run of the mill asshole (I am white, but have both been the asshole and had others of all races be the asshole to me throughout my life).

This may sound ignorant but I'm trying to understand.

She knew exactly what she was doing by saying "I'm going to tell them that an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN is threatening me". Then she said it again, before calling the police and claiming that he - excuse me, that an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN, was threatening her and her dog. In normal circumstances where there is conflict and someone feels strongly that they need police intervention/help, they call and explain what is happening. The operator will then ask for a description of the other party/suspect/perpetrator. By premeditating her fake distress and preempting the description, she planned to turn a very busy police department into a weapon by falsely claiming to be threatened by a *gasp* BLACK man. She was hoping that she would be seen as an innocent white woman who was being attacked in Central Park by a black man who would cause her harm. What she didn't know that she was getting was a Harvard grad who is on the Board of Directors of the Audobon Society.

When she got on the phone she began to wail about this AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN as if she were being attacked and even ended the call with a sense of urgency as if her life were in danger. This was unnecessary and racist.

White people are certainly able to experience conflict with black people and NOT be racist. She could have said "Mind your own business, jerk", "Don't give my dog treats, dork", or "F*ck off, birdman". She would have been rude, but not racist. If she truly felt threatened she could have just walked away, and certainly not aggressively approached him as shown at the start of the video.

I think she was approaching him to ask him to stop videoing her. Is this just a thing now, we can all video each other all the time?

If he didn't video the situation, he may be in jail right now. That's what happens when a white woman says that she is being threatened by a black man.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Question - I'm assuming there would not be this amount of outrage (or any at all) if she had not called the police? Or if she hadn't referred to him as 'African American'? What if she had just said 'F U, I'll do what I want and won't leash my dog' (asshole move for sure, but things like this surely happen every day among people of all races). I'm just trying to differentiate between racist behavior and being a run of the mill asshole (I am white, but have both been the asshole and had others of all races be the asshole to me throughout my life).

This may sound ignorant but I'm trying to understand.

She knew exactly what she was doing by saying "I'm going to tell them that an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN is threatening me". Then she said it again, before calling the police and claiming that he - excuse me, that an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN, was threatening her and her dog. In normal circumstances where there is conflict and someone feels strongly that they need police intervention/help, they call and explain what is happening. The operator will then ask for a description of the other party/suspect/perpetrator. By premeditating her fake distress and preempting the description, she planned to turn a very busy police department into a weapon by falsely claiming to be threatened by a *gasp* BLACK man. She was hoping that she would be seen as an innocent white woman who was being attacked in Central Park by a black man who would cause her harm. What she didn't know that she was getting was a Harvard grad who is on the Board of Directors of the Audobon Society.

When she got on the phone she began to wail about this AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN as if she were being attacked and even ended the call with a sense of urgency as if her life were in danger. This was unnecessary and racist.

White people are certainly able to experience conflict with black people and NOT be racist. She could have said "Mind your own business, jerk", "Don't give my dog treats, dork", or "F*ck off, birdman". She would have been rude, but not racist. If she truly felt threatened she could have just walked away, and certainly not aggressively approached him as shown at the start of the video.

I think she was approaching him to ask him to stop videoing her. Is this just a thing now, we can all video each other all the time?

Bullshit. So she was going to assault him? You want someone to stop filming you? Leave the area! Watch the video again, but only from the part of her call and with your eyes closed. Does her call paint an accurate picture of what was really happening?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Question - I'm assuming there would not be this amount of outrage (or any at all) if she had not called the police? Or if she hadn't referred to him as 'African American'? What if she had just said 'F U, I'll do what I want and won't leash my dog' (asshole move for sure, but things like this surely happen every day among people of all races). I'm just trying to differentiate between racist behavior and being a run of the mill asshole (I am white, but have both been the asshole and had others of all races be the asshole to me throughout my life).

This may sound ignorant but I'm trying to understand.

She knew exactly what she was doing by saying "I'm going to tell them that an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN is threatening me". Then she said it again, before calling the police and claiming that he - excuse me, that an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN, was threatening her and her dog. In normal circumstances where there is conflict and someone feels strongly that they need police intervention/help, they call and explain what is happening. The operator will then ask for a description of the other party/suspect/perpetrator. By premeditating her fake distress and preempting the description, she planned to turn a very busy police department into a weapon by falsely claiming to be threatened by a *gasp* BLACK man. She was hoping that she would be seen as an innocent white woman who was being attacked in Central Park by a black man who would cause her harm. What she didn't know that she was getting was a Harvard grad who is on the Board of Directors of the Audobon Society.

When she got on the phone she began to wail about this AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN as if she were being attacked and even ended the call with a sense of urgency as if her life were in danger. This was unnecessary and racist.

White people are certainly able to experience conflict with black people and NOT be racist. She could have said "Mind your own business, jerk", "Don't give my dog treats, dork", or "F*ck off, birdman". She would have been rude, but not racist. If she truly felt threatened she could have just walked away, and certainly not aggressively approached him as shown at the start of the video.

I think she was approaching him to ask him to stop videoing her. Is this just a thing now, we can all video each other all the time?

If he didn't video the situation, he may be in jail right now. That's what happens when a white woman says that she is being threatened by a black man.

He did threaten to poison her dog (or implied as much), by his own admission. Probably shocked that a “Karen” would go nuclear on him, but it was just a little bit misogynist to provoke someone like that and not expect a response, in New York of all places. I strongly doubt Cooper would have challenged a fellow black man with a bully breed in the same way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Question - I'm assuming there would not be this amount of outrage (or any at all) if she had not called the police? Or if she hadn't referred to him as 'African American'? What if she had just said 'F U, I'll do what I want and won't leash my dog' (asshole move for sure, but things like this surely happen every day among people of all races). I'm just trying to differentiate between racist behavior and being a run of the mill asshole (I am white, but have both been the asshole and had others of all races be the asshole to me throughout my life).

This may sound ignorant but I'm trying to understand.

She knew exactly what she was doing by saying "I'm going to tell them that an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN is threatening me". Then she said it again, before calling the police and claiming that he - excuse me, that an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN, was threatening her and her dog. In normal circumstances where there is conflict and someone feels strongly that they need police intervention/help, they call and explain what is happening. The operator will then ask for a description of the other party/suspect/perpetrator. By premeditating her fake distress and preempting the description, she planned to turn a very busy police department into a weapon by falsely claiming to be threatened by a *gasp* BLACK man. She was hoping that she would be seen as an innocent white woman who was being attacked in Central Park by a black man who would cause her harm. What she didn't know that she was getting was a Harvard grad who is on the Board of Directors of the Audobon Society.

When she got on the phone she began to wail about this AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN as if she were being attacked and even ended the call with a sense of urgency as if her life were in danger. This was unnecessary and racist.

White people are certainly able to experience conflict with black people and NOT be racist. She could have said "Mind your own business, jerk", "Don't give my dog treats, dork", or "F*ck off, birdman". She would have been rude, but not racist. If she truly felt threatened she could have just walked away, and certainly not aggressively approached him as shown at the start of the video.

Now that's just spouting nonsense.

DP. Why is it nonsense? Why couldn’t she take herself and her dog on over the the leash-free part of the park?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Question - I'm assuming there would not be this amount of outrage (or any at all) if she had not called the police? Or if she hadn't referred to him as 'African American'? What if she had just said 'F U, I'll do what I want and won't leash my dog' (asshole move for sure, but things like this surely happen every day among people of all races). I'm just trying to differentiate between racist behavior and being a run of the mill asshole (I am white, but have both been the asshole and had others of all races be the asshole to me throughout my life).

This may sound ignorant but I'm trying to understand.

She knew exactly what she was doing by saying "I'm going to tell them that an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN is threatening me". Then she said it again, before calling the police and claiming that he - excuse me, that an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN, was threatening her and her dog. In normal circumstances where there is conflict and someone feels strongly that they need police intervention/help, they call and explain what is happening. The operator will then ask for a description of the other party/suspect/perpetrator. By premeditating her fake distress and preempting the description, she planned to turn a very busy police department into a weapon by falsely claiming to be threatened by a *gasp* BLACK man. She was hoping that she would be seen as an innocent white woman who was being attacked in Central Park by a black man who would cause her harm. What she didn't know that she was getting was a Harvard grad who is on the Board of Directors of the Audobon Society.

When she got on the phone she began to wail about this AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN as if she were being attacked and even ended the call with a sense of urgency as if her life were in danger. This was unnecessary and racist.

White people are certainly able to experience conflict with black people and NOT be racist. She could have said "Mind your own business, jerk", "Don't give my dog treats, dork", or "F*ck off, birdman". She would have been rude, but not racist. If she truly felt threatened she could have just walked away, and certainly not aggressively approached him as shown at the start of the video.

I think she was approaching him to ask him to stop videoing her. Is this just a thing now, we can all video each other all the time?

If he didn't video the situation, he may be in jail right now. That's what happens when a white woman says that she is being threatened by a black man.

He did threaten to poison her dog (or implied as much), by his own admission. Probably shocked that a “Karen” would go nuclear on him, but it was just a little bit misogynist to provoke someone like that and not expect a response, in New York of all places. I strongly doubt Cooper would have challenged a fellow black man with a bully breed in the same way.

No, he didn't.

STOP BLAMING THE VICTIM.

So many nasty racists on this site. It's disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Here’s Kevin:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8365625/White-man-kicked-office-building-threatening-call-police-black-businessmen.html