Are you offended when someone says they “didnt want someone else to raise my kids”?

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Anonymous wrote:If your infant takes a 2-hr am nap and a 2-hr pm nap, and sleeps like 11-12 hours a night, then your infant is only awake 9 hours a day. All these folks saying, well my nanny only spent 3-4 waking hours with my kid...I mean, I get that "3" and "4" sound like small numbers, but it is a full 30-40% of your child's waking hours. That's of course a meaningful difference in what you could be spending if you stayed home (and again, that's assuming you have a very good napper).

I'm a FT working mom, btw.

Me again - also what is this talk about 3 year olds going to preschool 5 days a week from 9-1? The majority of the SAHMs in my area send their 3 yr olds to preschool for 3 mornings a week (pick up at lunch). Haven't you heard of the "3 days 3's"? It's very silly to make up all these numbers and schedules. Certainly pre-ES, of course SAHMs spend an appreciably larger percentage of their kids' waking hours with them than do most WOHM (at least those with fairly typical schedules). How silly to pretend otherwise!

Yes it is true most SAHM's that are wealthy and poor send their kids to 5 days of preschool because of the value it adds. For the poor it's free and for the wealthy it's not a big deal.

But if you give up an income and have to skrimp I understand you can't send your kids 5 days a week and that's fine, they will be fine.

I live in a UMC suburb. The wealthy SAHMs here do "3 day 3's" -- preschool 3 mornings a week. They don't see a value beyond that amount of preschool time for a 3 yr old.

Our SAHM do preschool 5 days and aftercare 2-3 days a week (easier than playdates which have to be planned). Aftercare just ended up being easier than trying to figure out playdate in the middle of dinner.

I find this very hard to believe! Here (again, wealthy area with lots of SAHMs) the typical schedule is:

3yr olds - preschool 3 mornings a week (typically 9 to noon)
4 yr olds (i.e. "pre-k" year) - 5 days a week (typically 9-1)...some families do "enrichment" add-ons until 3ish one or two days a week
Then no aftercare once in ES, but some after-school ECs, playground meet-ups, etc.

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Our preschool was around 3 hrs / 3 days for pre-3, and 4 hours / 4 days for pre-K. Anything beyond those hours typically falls under the daycare umbrella.

+1

This is why we had a full time nanny.

OP to get back to topic. No, I don’t get offended that someone is so myopic as to believe their singular view is correct. I pity their ignorance and judge them accordingly. Lots of great SAHMs, WOHMs, nannies, SAHDs, WOHDs, grandparents, etc. As long as all the kids’ needs get met physically and emotionally - it’s all good.

Can you provide a link to preschools with 3x a week for 3 hours.

We also have a full time nanny for the infant but our 3 year old does 5 days a week preschool, because I can't find one that does 3 days a week. NW ish area or Bethesda would work.

Any church or temple based preschool is like this if they are not also trying to be a daycare. Methodist, Presbyterian or Episcopal are the most likely to offer preschool and typically very affordable because you aren't having to pay a lot extra for overhead - the church already has the space. Standard schedule is often 9am-12pm, some offer a "lunch bunch" from 12-1 or 1:30 or something like that and some just include it for everyone. They often still use the classroom 5 days a week but its shared between two classes. Ie: 3 day 3's use the classroom on MWF and 2 day 2's use the same room on TTH.

Here are some links! These programs really aren't tough to find.

https://www.ccpcwns.com/copy-of-nursery-school

https://ccbcchildrenscenter.org/programs/

That took a long time to find.

The 1st one is a church so yea ... no thanks.

The 2nd requires 5 days a week for 3.5 or older and the program is 9-12:30 (which is only 30 minutes shorter than the one I talked about). So if you want to split hairs for 6 months your child can do 3 days a week and 1/2 hour shorter.

You definitely are spending a TON of time more with your 3 year old.

/s lol.

They are both located in churches, but neither program is religious.

I live in an UMC Chicago suburb. I can think of 6 preschools off the top of my head (4 run through churches or temples and 2 that are totally secular) that offer 3 day 3's programs.

Here's one highly regarded secular option, just for example:

https://www.tamarakdaycamp.com/pdf/school_forms/TCS%20Class%20Descriptions%202024.2025.pdf

And those 3 day 3's options (with the earlier pick up) are what most of the SAHMs do around here. The fact that you would not do a church or temple preschool or would pick 5 days a week is all fine and dandy, but besides the point. Your narrative that all (or even many) of the 3 yr old kids of SAHMs are in preschool five days a week well into the afternoon is totally false! Seriously stop embarrassing yourself!

So you had to go all the way to the midwest to find a pre-school with a 3 day option?

Are you actually looking for a 3 day preschool or not? Seems like not.

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Anonymous wrote:If your infant takes a 2-hr am nap and a 2-hr pm nap, and sleeps like 11-12 hours a night, then your infant is only awake 9 hours a day. All these folks saying, well my nanny only spent 3-4 waking hours with my kid...I mean, I get that "3" and "4" sound like small numbers, but it is a full 30-40% of your child's waking hours. That's of course a meaningful difference in what you could be spending if you stayed home (and again, that's assuming you have a very good napper).

I'm a FT working mom, btw.

Me again - also what is this talk about 3 year olds going to preschool 5 days a week from 9-1? The majority of the SAHMs in my area send their 3 yr olds to preschool for 3 mornings a week (pick up at lunch). Haven't you heard of the "3 days 3's"? It's very silly to make up all these numbers and schedules. Certainly pre-ES, of course SAHMs spend an appreciably larger percentage of their kids' waking hours with them than do most WOHM (at least those with fairly typical schedules). How silly to pretend otherwise!

Yes it is true most SAHM's that are wealthy and poor send their kids to 5 days of preschool because of the value it adds. For the poor it's free and for the wealthy it's not a big deal.

But if you give up an income and have to skrimp I understand you can't send your kids 5 days a week and that's fine, they will be fine.

I live in a UMC suburb. The wealthy SAHMs here do "3 day 3's" -- preschool 3 mornings a week. They don't see a value beyond that amount of preschool time for a 3 yr old.

Our SAHM do preschool 5 days and aftercare 2-3 days a week (easier than playdates which have to be planned). Aftercare just ended up being easier than trying to figure out playdate in the middle of dinner.

I find this very hard to believe! Here (again, wealthy area with lots of SAHMs) the typical schedule is:

3yr olds - preschool 3 mornings a week (typically 9 to noon)
4 yr olds (i.e. "pre-k" year) - 5 days a week (typically 9-1)...some families do "enrichment" add-ons until 3ish one or two days a week
Then no aftercare once in ES, but some after-school ECs, playground meet-ups, etc.

+1
Our preschool was around 3 hrs / 3 days for pre-3, and 4 hours / 4 days for pre-K. Anything beyond those hours typically falls under the daycare umbrella.

+1

This is why we had a full time nanny.

OP to get back to topic. No, I don’t get offended that someone is so myopic as to believe their singular view is correct. I pity their ignorance and judge them accordingly. Lots of great SAHMs, WOHMs, nannies, SAHDs, WOHDs, grandparents, etc. As long as all the kids’ needs get met physically and emotionally - it’s all good.

Can you provide a link to preschools with 3x a week for 3 hours.

We also have a full time nanny for the infant but our 3 year old does 5 days a week preschool, because I can't find one that does 3 days a week. NW ish area or Bethesda would work.

Any church or temple based preschool is like this if they are not also trying to be a daycare. Methodist, Presbyterian or Episcopal are the most likely to offer preschool and typically very affordable because you aren't having to pay a lot extra for overhead - the church already has the space. Standard schedule is often 9am-12pm, some offer a "lunch bunch" from 12-1 or 1:30 or something like that and some just include it for everyone. They often still use the classroom 5 days a week but its shared between two classes. Ie: 3 day 3's use the classroom on MWF and 2 day 2's use the same room on TTH.

Here are some links! These programs really aren't tough to find.

https://www.ccpcwns.com/copy-of-nursery-school

https://ccbcchildrenscenter.org/programs/

That took a long time to find.

The 1st one is a church so yea ... no thanks.

The 2nd requires 5 days a week for 3.5 or older and the program is 9-12:30 (which is only 30 minutes shorter than the one I talked about). So if you want to split hairs for 6 months your child can do 3 days a week and 1/2 hour shorter.

You definitely are spending a TON of time more with your 3 year old.

/s lol.

They are both located in churches, but neither program is religious.

I live in an UMC Chicago suburb. I can think of 6 preschools off the top of my head (4 run through churches or temples and 2 that are totally secular) that offer 3 day 3's programs.

Here's one highly regarded secular option, just for example:

https://www.tamarakdaycamp.com/pdf/school_forms/TCS%20Class%20Descriptions%202024.2025.pdf

And those 3 day 3's options (with the earlier pick up) are what most of the SAHMs do around here. The fact that you would not do a church or temple preschool or would pick 5 days a week is all fine and dandy, but besides the point. Your narrative that all (or even many) of the 3 yr old kids of SAHMs are in preschool five days a week well into the afternoon is totally false! Seriously stop embarrassing yourself!

So you had to go all the way to the midwest to find a pre-school with a 3 day option?

Lady, stop! I live in the Chicago area now. My SAHM sister in Northern Virginia sent her 3 year old to a 3 day 3's program. It happens to be through a temple preschool (which we know isn't your cup of tea, but it's filled with the kids of SAHMs who are home with mom Tuesday and Thursday all day and by noon on Monday, Wednesday, Friday). I know, I know, just pretend these don't exist, got it! The types of preschools you are apparently looking at are filled with the kids of WOHMs with nannies in the afternoon.

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Anonymous wrote:If your infant takes a 2-hr am nap and a 2-hr pm nap, and sleeps like 11-12 hours a night, then your infant is only awake 9 hours a day. All these folks saying, well my nanny only spent 3-4 waking hours with my kid...I mean, I get that "3" and "4" sound like small numbers, but it is a full 30-40% of your child's waking hours. That's of course a meaningful difference in what you could be spending if you stayed home (and again, that's assuming you have a very good napper).

I'm a FT working mom, btw.

Me again - also what is this talk about 3 year olds going to preschool 5 days a week from 9-1? The majority of the SAHMs in my area send their 3 yr olds to preschool for 3 mornings a week (pick up at lunch). Haven't you heard of the "3 days 3's"? It's very silly to make up all these numbers and schedules. Certainly pre-ES, of course SAHMs spend an appreciably larger percentage of their kids' waking hours with them than do most WOHM (at least those with fairly typical schedules). How silly to pretend otherwise!

Yes it is true most SAHM's that are wealthy and poor send their kids to 5 days of preschool because of the value it adds. For the poor it's free and for the wealthy it's not a big deal.

But if you give up an income and have to skrimp I understand you can't send your kids 5 days a week and that's fine, they will be fine.

I live in a UMC suburb. The wealthy SAHMs here do "3 day 3's" -- preschool 3 mornings a week. They don't see a value beyond that amount of preschool time for a 3 yr old.

Our SAHM do preschool 5 days and aftercare 2-3 days a week (easier than playdates which have to be planned). Aftercare just ended up being easier than trying to figure out playdate in the middle of dinner.

I find this very hard to believe! Here (again, wealthy area with lots of SAHMs) the typical schedule is:

3yr olds - preschool 3 mornings a week (typically 9 to noon)
4 yr olds (i.e. "pre-k" year) - 5 days a week (typically 9-1)...some families do "enrichment" add-ons until 3ish one or two days a week
Then no aftercare once in ES, but some after-school ECs, playground meet-ups, etc.

+1
Our preschool was around 3 hrs / 3 days for pre-3, and 4 hours / 4 days for pre-K. Anything beyond those hours typically falls under the daycare umbrella.

+1

This is why we had a full time nanny.

OP to get back to topic. No, I don’t get offended that someone is so myopic as to believe their singular view is correct. I pity their ignorance and judge them accordingly. Lots of great SAHMs, WOHMs, nannies, SAHDs, WOHDs, grandparents, etc. As long as all the kids’ needs get met physically and emotionally - it’s all good.

Can you provide a link to preschools with 3x a week for 3 hours.

We also have a full time nanny for the infant but our 3 year old does 5 days a week preschool, because I can't find one that does 3 days a week. NW ish area or Bethesda would work.

Any church or temple based preschool is like this if they are not also trying to be a daycare. Methodist, Presbyterian or Episcopal are the most likely to offer preschool and typically very affordable because you aren't having to pay a lot extra for overhead - the church already has the space. Standard schedule is often 9am-12pm, some offer a "lunch bunch" from 12-1 or 1:30 or something like that and some just include it for everyone. They often still use the classroom 5 days a week but its shared between two classes. Ie: 3 day 3's use the classroom on MWF and 2 day 2's use the same room on TTH.

Here are some links! These programs really aren't tough to find.

https://www.ccpcwns.com/copy-of-nursery-school

https://ccbcchildrenscenter.org/programs/

That took a long time to find.

The 1st one is a church so yea ... no thanks.

The 2nd requires 5 days a week for 3.5 or older and the program is 9-12:30 (which is only 30 minutes shorter than the one I talked about). So if you want to split hairs for 6 months your child can do 3 days a week and 1/2 hour shorter.

You definitely are spending a TON of time more with your 3 year old.

/s lol.

They are both located in churches, but neither program is religious.

I live in an UMC Chicago suburb. I can think of 6 preschools off the top of my head (4 run through churches or temples and 2 that are totally secular) that offer 3 day 3's programs.

Here's one highly regarded secular option, just for example:

https://www.tamarakdaycamp.com/pdf/school_forms/TCS%20Class%20Descriptions%202024.2025.pdf

And those 3 day 3's options (with the earlier pick up) are what most of the SAHMs do around here. The fact that you would not do a church or temple preschool or would pick 5 days a week is all fine and dandy, but besides the point. Your narrative that all (or even many) of the 3 yr old kids of SAHMs are in preschool five days a week well into the afternoon is totally false! Seriously stop embarrassing yourself!

So you had to go all the way to the midwest to find a pre-school with a 3 day option?

Are you actually looking for a 3 day preschool or not? Seems like not.

I had a nanny, i looked for a preschool for my kids at the time to prepare them for K, there was only a 5 day option. i had a nanny, I didn't need "day care", the only options were 5 days. Why is this so complicated for you.

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Anonymous wrote:Pp. I don’t necessarily think those women stayed home for their kids. They are just rich and don’t have to work.

Probably true for some, but the idea of staying home for your kids is not as crazy as so many working moms seem to want to think.

My H and I both sacrificed in many ways so one of us could stay home with our kids before they started full time school. We are not rich, far from it. I also ended up taking care of a few other kids of friends and relatives mostly so I could be home with my own kids.

Pp here. I don’t come from money but my husband does earn $$$. I stayed home for my kids. I worked hard for my degrees and my career. DH has a very demanding job so it was hard to do all the kid stuff plus work. Life is much easier now that I’m home full time.

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Anonymous wrote:If your infant takes a 2-hr am nap and a 2-hr pm nap, and sleeps like 11-12 hours a night, then your infant is only awake 9 hours a day. All these folks saying, well my nanny only spent 3-4 waking hours with my kid...I mean, I get that "3" and "4" sound like small numbers, but it is a full 30-40% of your child's waking hours. That's of course a meaningful difference in what you could be spending if you stayed home (and again, that's assuming you have a very good napper).

I'm a FT working mom, btw.

Me again - also what is this talk about 3 year olds going to preschool 5 days a week from 9-1? The majority of the SAHMs in my area send their 3 yr olds to preschool for 3 mornings a week (pick up at lunch). Haven't you heard of the "3 days 3's"? It's very silly to make up all these numbers and schedules. Certainly pre-ES, of course SAHMs spend an appreciably larger percentage of their kids' waking hours with them than do most WOHM (at least those with fairly typical schedules). How silly to pretend otherwise!

Yes it is true most SAHM's that are wealthy and poor send their kids to 5 days of preschool because of the value it adds. For the poor it's free and for the wealthy it's not a big deal.

But if you give up an income and have to skrimp I understand you can't send your kids 5 days a week and that's fine, they will be fine.

I live in a UMC suburb. The wealthy SAHMs here do "3 day 3's" -- preschool 3 mornings a week. They don't see a value beyond that amount of preschool time for a 3 yr old.

Our SAHM do preschool 5 days and aftercare 2-3 days a week (easier than playdates which have to be planned). Aftercare just ended up being easier than trying to figure out playdate in the middle of dinner.

I find this very hard to believe! Here (again, wealthy area with lots of SAHMs) the typical schedule is:

3yr olds - preschool 3 mornings a week (typically 9 to noon)
4 yr olds (i.e. "pre-k" year) - 5 days a week (typically 9-1)...some families do "enrichment" add-ons until 3ish one or two days a week
Then no aftercare once in ES, but some after-school ECs, playground meet-ups, etc.

+1
Our preschool was around 3 hrs / 3 days for pre-3, and 4 hours / 4 days for pre-K. Anything beyond those hours typically falls under the daycare umbrella.

+1

This is why we had a full time nanny.

OP to get back to topic. No, I don’t get offended that someone is so myopic as to believe their singular view is correct. I pity their ignorance and judge them accordingly. Lots of great SAHMs, WOHMs, nannies, SAHDs, WOHDs, grandparents, etc. As long as all the kids’ needs get met physically and emotionally - it’s all good.

Can you provide a link to preschools with 3x a week for 3 hours.

We also have a full time nanny for the infant but our 3 year old does 5 days a week preschool, because I can't find one that does 3 days a week. NW ish area or Bethesda would work.

Any church or temple based preschool is like this if they are not also trying to be a daycare. Methodist, Presbyterian or Episcopal are the most likely to offer preschool and typically very affordable because you aren't having to pay a lot extra for overhead - the church already has the space. Standard schedule is often 9am-12pm, some offer a "lunch bunch" from 12-1 or 1:30 or something like that and some just include it for everyone. They often still use the classroom 5 days a week but its shared between two classes. Ie: 3 day 3's use the classroom on MWF and 2 day 2's use the same room on TTH.

Here are some links! These programs really aren't tough to find.

https://www.ccpcwns.com/copy-of-nursery-school

https://ccbcchildrenscenter.org/programs/

That took a long time to find.

The 1st one is a church so yea ... no thanks.

The 2nd requires 5 days a week for 3.5 or older and the program is 9-12:30 (which is only 30 minutes shorter than the one I talked about). So if you want to split hairs for 6 months your child can do 3 days a week and 1/2 hour shorter.

You definitely are spending a TON of time more with your 3 year old.

/s lol.

They are both located in churches, but neither program is religious.

I live in an UMC Chicago suburb. I can think of 6 preschools off the top of my head (4 run through churches or temples and 2 that are totally secular) that offer 3 day 3's programs.

Here's one highly regarded secular option, just for example:

https://www.tamarakdaycamp.com/pdf/school_forms/TCS%20Class%20Descriptions%202024.2025.pdf

And those 3 day 3's options (with the earlier pick up) are what most of the SAHMs do around here. The fact that you would not do a church or temple preschool or would pick 5 days a week is all fine and dandy, but besides the point. Your narrative that all (or even many) of the 3 yr old kids of SAHMs are in preschool five days a week well into the afternoon is totally false! Seriously stop embarrassing yourself!

So you had to go all the way to the midwest to find a pre-school with a 3 day option?

Lady, stop! I live in the Chicago area now. My SAHM sister in Northern Virginia sent her 3 year old to a 3 day 3's program. It happens to be through a temple preschool (which we know isn't your cup of tea, but it's filled with the kids of SAHMs who are home with mom Tuesday and Thursday all day and by noon on Monday, Wednesday, Friday). I know, I know, just pretend these don't exist, got it! The types of preschools you are apparently looking at are filled with the kids of WOHMs with nannies in the afternoon.

I was not looking for a mommy and me type of situation since I had a nanny, I was looking for a preschool that prepared kids for K. It's not all that complex. All the programs in our area were 5 days a week 9-1.

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Anonymous wrote:If your infant takes a 2-hr am nap and a 2-hr pm nap, and sleeps like 11-12 hours a night, then your infant is only awake 9 hours a day. All these folks saying, well my nanny only spent 3-4 waking hours with my kid...I mean, I get that "3" and "4" sound like small numbers, but it is a full 30-40% of your child's waking hours. That's of course a meaningful difference in what you could be spending if you stayed home (and again, that's assuming you have a very good napper).

I'm a FT working mom, btw.

Me again - also what is this talk about 3 year olds going to preschool 5 days a week from 9-1? The majority of the SAHMs in my area send their 3 yr olds to preschool for 3 mornings a week (pick up at lunch). Haven't you heard of the "3 days 3's"? It's very silly to make up all these numbers and schedules. Certainly pre-ES, of course SAHMs spend an appreciably larger percentage of their kids' waking hours with them than do most WOHM (at least those with fairly typical schedules). How silly to pretend otherwise!

Yes it is true most SAHM's that are wealthy and poor send their kids to 5 days of preschool because of the value it adds. For the poor it's free and for the wealthy it's not a big deal.

But if you give up an income and have to skrimp I understand you can't send your kids 5 days a week and that's fine, they will be fine.

I live in a UMC suburb. The wealthy SAHMs here do "3 day 3's" -- preschool 3 mornings a week. They don't see a value beyond that amount of preschool time for a 3 yr old.

Our SAHM do preschool 5 days and aftercare 2-3 days a week (easier than playdates which have to be planned). Aftercare just ended up being easier than trying to figure out playdate in the middle of dinner.

I find this very hard to believe! Here (again, wealthy area with lots of SAHMs) the typical schedule is:

3yr olds - preschool 3 mornings a week (typically 9 to noon)
4 yr olds (i.e. "pre-k" year) - 5 days a week (typically 9-1)...some families do "enrichment" add-ons until 3ish one or two days a week
Then no aftercare once in ES, but some after-school ECs, playground meet-ups, etc.

+1
Our preschool was around 3 hrs / 3 days for pre-3, and 4 hours / 4 days for pre-K. Anything beyond those hours typically falls under the daycare umbrella.

+1

This is why we had a full time nanny.

OP to get back to topic. No, I don’t get offended that someone is so myopic as to believe their singular view is correct. I pity their ignorance and judge them accordingly. Lots of great SAHMs, WOHMs, nannies, SAHDs, WOHDs, grandparents, etc. As long as all the kids’ needs get met physically and emotionally - it’s all good.

Can you provide a link to preschools with 3x a week for 3 hours.

We also have a full time nanny for the infant but our 3 year old does 5 days a week preschool, because I can't find one that does 3 days a week. NW ish area or Bethesda would work.

Any church or temple based preschool is like this if they are not also trying to be a daycare. Methodist, Presbyterian or Episcopal are the most likely to offer preschool and typically very affordable because you aren't having to pay a lot extra for overhead - the church already has the space. Standard schedule is often 9am-12pm, some offer a "lunch bunch" from 12-1 or 1:30 or something like that and some just include it for everyone. They often still use the classroom 5 days a week but its shared between two classes. Ie: 3 day 3's use the classroom on MWF and 2 day 2's use the same room on TTH.

Here are some links! These programs really aren't tough to find.

https://www.ccpcwns.com/copy-of-nursery-school

https://ccbcchildrenscenter.org/programs/

That took a long time to find.

The 1st one is a church so yea ... no thanks.

The 2nd requires 5 days a week for 3.5 or older and the program is 9-12:30 (which is only 30 minutes shorter than the one I talked about). So if you want to split hairs for 6 months your child can do 3 days a week and 1/2 hour shorter.

You definitely are spending a TON of time more with your 3 year old.

/s lol.

They are both located in churches, but neither program is religious.

I live in an UMC Chicago suburb. I can think of 6 preschools off the top of my head (4 run through churches or temples and 2 that are totally secular) that offer 3 day 3's programs.

Here's one highly regarded secular option, just for example:

https://www.tamarakdaycamp.com/pdf/school_forms/TCS%20Class%20Descriptions%202024.2025.pdf

And those 3 day 3's options (with the earlier pick up) are what most of the SAHMs do around here. The fact that you would not do a church or temple preschool or would pick 5 days a week is all fine and dandy, but besides the point. Your narrative that all (or even many) of the 3 yr old kids of SAHMs are in preschool five days a week well into the afternoon is totally false! Seriously stop embarrassing yourself!

So you had to go all the way to the midwest to find a pre-school with a 3 day option?

Are you actually looking for a 3 day preschool or not? Seems like not.

My kids are school aged now but I’m pretty sure most schools have a 3 day option. They usually have a 2 day and a 3 day. 2 + 3 =5

We sent our child to country day school and they had a 3 day option.

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Anonymous wrote:If your infant takes a 2-hr am nap and a 2-hr pm nap, and sleeps like 11-12 hours a night, then your infant is only awake 9 hours a day. All these folks saying, well my nanny only spent 3-4 waking hours with my kid...I mean, I get that "3" and "4" sound like small numbers, but it is a full 30-40% of your child's waking hours. That's of course a meaningful difference in what you could be spending if you stayed home (and again, that's assuming you have a very good napper).

I'm a FT working mom, btw.

Me again - also what is this talk about 3 year olds going to preschool 5 days a week from 9-1? The majority of the SAHMs in my area send their 3 yr olds to preschool for 3 mornings a week (pick up at lunch). Haven't you heard of the "3 days 3's"? It's very silly to make up all these numbers and schedules. Certainly pre-ES, of course SAHMs spend an appreciably larger percentage of their kids' waking hours with them than do most WOHM (at least those with fairly typical schedules). How silly to pretend otherwise!

Yes it is true most SAHM's that are wealthy and poor send their kids to 5 days of preschool because of the value it adds. For the poor it's free and for the wealthy it's not a big deal.

But if you give up an income and have to skrimp I understand you can't send your kids 5 days a week and that's fine, they will be fine.

I live in a UMC suburb. The wealthy SAHMs here do "3 day 3's" -- preschool 3 mornings a week. They don't see a value beyond that amount of preschool time for a 3 yr old.

Our SAHM do preschool 5 days and aftercare 2-3 days a week (easier than playdates which have to be planned). Aftercare just ended up being easier than trying to figure out playdate in the middle of dinner.

I find this very hard to believe! Here (again, wealthy area with lots of SAHMs) the typical schedule is:

3yr olds - preschool 3 mornings a week (typically 9 to noon)
4 yr olds (i.e. "pre-k" year) - 5 days a week (typically 9-1)...some families do "enrichment" add-ons until 3ish one or two days a week
Then no aftercare once in ES, but some after-school ECs, playground meet-ups, etc.

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Our preschool was around 3 hrs / 3 days for pre-3, and 4 hours / 4 days for pre-K. Anything beyond those hours typically falls under the daycare umbrella.

+1

This is why we had a full time nanny.

OP to get back to topic. No, I don’t get offended that someone is so myopic as to believe their singular view is correct. I pity their ignorance and judge them accordingly. Lots of great SAHMs, WOHMs, nannies, SAHDs, WOHDs, grandparents, etc. As long as all the kids’ needs get met physically and emotionally - it’s all good.

Can you provide a link to preschools with 3x a week for 3 hours.

We also have a full time nanny for the infant but our 3 year old does 5 days a week preschool, because I can't find one that does 3 days a week. NW ish area or Bethesda would work.

Any church or temple based preschool is like this if they are not also trying to be a daycare. Methodist, Presbyterian or Episcopal are the most likely to offer preschool and typically very affordable because you aren't having to pay a lot extra for overhead - the church already has the space. Standard schedule is often 9am-12pm, some offer a "lunch bunch" from 12-1 or 1:30 or something like that and some just include it for everyone. They often still use the classroom 5 days a week but its shared between two classes. Ie: 3 day 3's use the classroom on MWF and 2 day 2's use the same room on TTH.

Here are some links! These programs really aren't tough to find.

https://www.ccpcwns.com/copy-of-nursery-school

https://ccbcchildrenscenter.org/programs/

That took a long time to find.

The 1st one is a church so yea ... no thanks.

The 2nd requires 5 days a week for 3.5 or older and the program is 9-12:30 (which is only 30 minutes shorter than the one I talked about). So if you want to split hairs for 6 months your child can do 3 days a week and 1/2 hour shorter.

You definitely are spending a TON of time more with your 3 year old.

/s lol.

They are both located in churches, but neither program is religious.

I live in an UMC Chicago suburb. I can think of 6 preschools off the top of my head (4 run through churches or temples and 2 that are totally secular) that offer 3 day 3's programs.

Here's one highly regarded secular option, just for example:

https://www.tamarakdaycamp.com/pdf/school_forms/TCS%20Class%20Descriptions%202024.2025.pdf

And those 3 day 3's options (with the earlier pick up) are what most of the SAHMs do around here. The fact that you would not do a church or temple preschool or would pick 5 days a week is all fine and dandy, but besides the point. Your narrative that all (or even many) of the 3 yr old kids of SAHMs are in preschool five days a week well into the afternoon is totally false! Seriously stop embarrassing yourself!

So you had to go all the way to the midwest to find a pre-school with a 3 day option?

Lady, stop! I live in the Chicago area now. My SAHM sister in Northern Virginia sent her 3 year old to a 3 day 3's program. It happens to be through a temple preschool (which we know isn't your cup of tea, but it's filled with the kids of SAHMs who are home with mom Tuesday and Thursday all day and by noon on Monday, Wednesday, Friday). I know, I know, just pretend these don't exist, got it! The types of preschools you are apparently looking at are filled with the kids of WOHMs with nannies in the afternoon.

I was not looking for a mommy and me type of situation since I had a nanny, I was looking for a preschool that prepared kids for K. It's not all that complex. All the programs in our area were 5 days a week 9-1.

What is wrong with you? Not the pp. I think you didn’t look hard enough.

Do you even know what mommy and me is? Lots of preschool kids have FT Nannie’s. They don’t want to send their kids to daycare and send kids for a few hours to preschool.

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Anonymous wrote:If your infant takes a 2-hr am nap and a 2-hr pm nap, and sleeps like 11-12 hours a night, then your infant is only awake 9 hours a day. All these folks saying, well my nanny only spent 3-4 waking hours with my kid...I mean, I get that "3" and "4" sound like small numbers, but it is a full 30-40% of your child's waking hours. That's of course a meaningful difference in what you could be spending if you stayed home (and again, that's assuming you have a very good napper).

I'm a FT working mom, btw.

Me again - also what is this talk about 3 year olds going to preschool 5 days a week from 9-1? The majority of the SAHMs in my area send their 3 yr olds to preschool for 3 mornings a week (pick up at lunch). Haven't you heard of the "3 days 3's"? It's very silly to make up all these numbers and schedules. Certainly pre-ES, of course SAHMs spend an appreciably larger percentage of their kids' waking hours with them than do most WOHM (at least those with fairly typical schedules). How silly to pretend otherwise!

Yes it is true most SAHM's that are wealthy and poor send their kids to 5 days of preschool because of the value it adds. For the poor it's free and for the wealthy it's not a big deal.

But if you give up an income and have to skrimp I understand you can't send your kids 5 days a week and that's fine, they will be fine.

I live in a UMC suburb. The wealthy SAHMs here do "3 day 3's" -- preschool 3 mornings a week. They don't see a value beyond that amount of preschool time for a 3 yr old.

Our SAHM do preschool 5 days and aftercare 2-3 days a week (easier than playdates which have to be planned). Aftercare just ended up being easier than trying to figure out playdate in the middle of dinner.

I find this very hard to believe! Here (again, wealthy area with lots of SAHMs) the typical schedule is:

3yr olds - preschool 3 mornings a week (typically 9 to noon)
4 yr olds (i.e. "pre-k" year) - 5 days a week (typically 9-1)...some families do "enrichment" add-ons until 3ish one or two days a week
Then no aftercare once in ES, but some after-school ECs, playground meet-ups, etc.

+1
Our preschool was around 3 hrs / 3 days for pre-3, and 4 hours / 4 days for pre-K. Anything beyond those hours typically falls under the daycare umbrella.

+1

This is why we had a full time nanny.

OP to get back to topic. No, I don’t get offended that someone is so myopic as to believe their singular view is correct. I pity their ignorance and judge them accordingly. Lots of great SAHMs, WOHMs, nannies, SAHDs, WOHDs, grandparents, etc. As long as all the kids’ needs get met physically and emotionally - it’s all good.

Can you provide a link to preschools with 3x a week for 3 hours.

We also have a full time nanny for the infant but our 3 year old does 5 days a week preschool, because I can't find one that does 3 days a week. NW ish area or Bethesda would work.

Any church or temple based preschool is like this if they are not also trying to be a daycare. Methodist, Presbyterian or Episcopal are the most likely to offer preschool and typically very affordable because you aren't having to pay a lot extra for overhead - the church already has the space. Standard schedule is often 9am-12pm, some offer a "lunch bunch" from 12-1 or 1:30 or something like that and some just include it for everyone. They often still use the classroom 5 days a week but its shared between two classes. Ie: 3 day 3's use the classroom on MWF and 2 day 2's use the same room on TTH.

Here are some links! These programs really aren't tough to find.

https://www.ccpcwns.com/copy-of-nursery-school

https://ccbcchildrenscenter.org/programs/

That took a long time to find.

The 1st one is a church so yea ... no thanks.

The 2nd requires 5 days a week for 3.5 or older and the program is 9-12:30 (which is only 30 minutes shorter than the one I talked about). So if you want to split hairs for 6 months your child can do 3 days a week and 1/2 hour shorter.

You definitely are spending a TON of time more with your 3 year old.

/s lol.

They are both located in churches, but neither program is religious.

I live in an UMC Chicago suburb. I can think of 6 preschools off the top of my head (4 run through churches or temples and 2 that are totally secular) that offer 3 day 3's programs.

Here's one highly regarded secular option, just for example:

https://www.tamarakdaycamp.com/pdf/school_forms/TCS%20Class%20Descriptions%202024.2025.pdf

And those 3 day 3's options (with the earlier pick up) are what most of the SAHMs do around here. The fact that you would not do a church or temple preschool or would pick 5 days a week is all fine and dandy, but besides the point. Your narrative that all (or even many) of the 3 yr old kids of SAHMs are in preschool five days a week well into the afternoon is totally false! Seriously stop embarrassing yourself!

So you had to go all the way to the midwest to find a pre-school with a 3 day option?

Lady, stop! I live in the Chicago area now. My SAHM sister in Northern Virginia sent her 3 year old to a 3 day 3's program. It happens to be through a temple preschool (which we know isn't your cup of tea, but it's filled with the kids of SAHMs who are home with mom Tuesday and Thursday all day and by noon on Monday, Wednesday, Friday). I know, I know, just pretend these don't exist, got it! The types of preschools you are apparently looking at are filled with the kids of WOHMs with nannies in the afternoon.

I was not looking for a mommy and me type of situation since I had a nanny, I was looking for a preschool that prepared kids for K. It's not all that complex. All the programs in our area were 5 days a week 9-1.

The 3 day 3's programs I'm talking about are NOT mommy and me; they are 100% drop-off. Most people are looking for their kid's 4 yr-old preschool year (i.e, the pre-k year) to be the year that prepares them for kindergarten. I do see a lot of SAHM choose a 5-day option for the pre-k year, not suggesting otherwise. But I thought we were talking about 3-year old options (in other words, kid still has two years of preschool before kinder). You most certainly did not look hard enough if you could not find a 3 morning a week drop-off option for your 3 yr old. (And then follow that the next year by a 5-day option that is focused on preparing them for kinder.)

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Anonymous wrote:If your infant takes a 2-hr am nap and a 2-hr pm nap, and sleeps like 11-12 hours a night, then your infant is only awake 9 hours a day. All these folks saying, well my nanny only spent 3-4 waking hours with my kid...I mean, I get that "3" and "4" sound like small numbers, but it is a full 30-40% of your child's waking hours. That's of course a meaningful difference in what you could be spending if you stayed home (and again, that's assuming you have a very good napper).

I'm a FT working mom, btw.

Me again - also what is this talk about 3 year olds going to preschool 5 days a week from 9-1? The majority of the SAHMs in my area send their 3 yr olds to preschool for 3 mornings a week (pick up at lunch). Haven't you heard of the "3 days 3's"? It's very silly to make up all these numbers and schedules. Certainly pre-ES, of course SAHMs spend an appreciably larger percentage of their kids' waking hours with them than do most WOHM (at least those with fairly typical schedules). How silly to pretend otherwise!

Yes it is true most SAHM's that are wealthy and poor send their kids to 5 days of preschool because of the value it adds. For the poor it's free and for the wealthy it's not a big deal.

But if you give up an income and have to skrimp I understand you can't send your kids 5 days a week and that's fine, they will be fine.

I live in a UMC suburb. The wealthy SAHMs here do "3 day 3's" -- preschool 3 mornings a week. They don't see a value beyond that amount of preschool time for a 3 yr old.

Our SAHM do preschool 5 days and aftercare 2-3 days a week (easier than playdates which have to be planned). Aftercare just ended up being easier than trying to figure out playdate in the middle of dinner.

I find this very hard to believe! Here (again, wealthy area with lots of SAHMs) the typical schedule is:

3yr olds - preschool 3 mornings a week (typically 9 to noon)
4 yr olds (i.e. "pre-k" year) - 5 days a week (typically 9-1)...some families do "enrichment" add-ons until 3ish one or two days a week
Then no aftercare once in ES, but some after-school ECs, playground meet-ups, etc.

+1
Our preschool was around 3 hrs / 3 days for pre-3, and 4 hours / 4 days for pre-K. Anything beyond those hours typically falls under the daycare umbrella.

+1

This is why we had a full time nanny.

OP to get back to topic. No, I don’t get offended that someone is so myopic as to believe their singular view is correct. I pity their ignorance and judge them accordingly. Lots of great SAHMs, WOHMs, nannies, SAHDs, WOHDs, grandparents, etc. As long as all the kids’ needs get met physically and emotionally - it’s all good.

Can you provide a link to preschools with 3x a week for 3 hours.

We also have a full time nanny for the infant but our 3 year old does 5 days a week preschool, because I can't find one that does 3 days a week. NW ish area or Bethesda would work.

Any church or temple based preschool is like this if they are not also trying to be a daycare. Methodist, Presbyterian or Episcopal are the most likely to offer preschool and typically very affordable because you aren't having to pay a lot extra for overhead - the church already has the space. Standard schedule is often 9am-12pm, some offer a "lunch bunch" from 12-1 or 1:30 or something like that and some just include it for everyone. They often still use the classroom 5 days a week but its shared between two classes. Ie: 3 day 3's use the classroom on MWF and 2 day 2's use the same room on TTH.

Here are some links! These programs really aren't tough to find.

https://www.ccpcwns.com/copy-of-nursery-school

https://ccbcchildrenscenter.org/programs/

That took a long time to find.

The 1st one is a church so yea ... no thanks.

The 2nd requires 5 days a week for 3.5 or older and the program is 9-12:30 (which is only 30 minutes shorter than the one I talked about). So if you want to split hairs for 6 months your child can do 3 days a week and 1/2 hour shorter.

You definitely are spending a TON of time more with your 3 year old.

/s lol.

They are both located in churches, but neither program is religious.

I live in an UMC Chicago suburb. I can think of 6 preschools off the top of my head (4 run through churches or temples and 2 that are totally secular) that offer 3 day 3's programs.

Here's one highly regarded secular option, just for example:

https://www.tamarakdaycamp.com/pdf/school_forms/TCS%20Class%20Descriptions%202024.2025.pdf

And those 3 day 3's options (with the earlier pick up) are what most of the SAHMs do around here. The fact that you would not do a church or temple preschool or would pick 5 days a week is all fine and dandy, but besides the point. Your narrative that all (or even many) of the 3 yr old kids of SAHMs are in preschool five days a week well into the afternoon is totally false! Seriously stop embarrassing yourself!

So you had to go all the way to the midwest to find a pre-school with a 3 day option?

Lady, stop! I live in the Chicago area now. My SAHM sister in Northern Virginia sent her 3 year old to a 3 day 3's program. It happens to be through a temple preschool (which we know isn't your cup of tea, but it's filled with the kids of SAHMs who are home with mom Tuesday and Thursday all day and by noon on Monday, Wednesday, Friday). I know, I know, just pretend these don't exist, got it! The types of preschools you are apparently looking at are filled with the kids of WOHMs with nannies in the afternoon.

I was not looking for a mommy and me type of situation since I had a nanny, I was looking for a preschool that prepared kids for K. It's not all that complex. All the programs in our area were 5 days a week 9-1.

The 3 day 3's programs I'm talking about are NOT mommy and me; they are 100% drop-off. Most people are looking for their kid's 4 yr-old preschool year (i.e, the pre-k year) to be the year that prepares them for kindergarten. I do see a lot of SAHM choose a 5-day option for the pre-k year, not suggesting otherwise. But I thought we were talking about 3-year old options (in other words, kid still has two years of preschool before kinder). You most certainly did not look hard enough if you could not find a 3 morning a week drop-off option for your 3 yr old. (And then follow that the next year by a 5-day option that is focused on preparing them for kinder.)

That must be it, I only looked at one place and never looked at others. LOL, okay that's it. Dude, there are waiting lists for places and you think i'm gonna find a plethora of 3 day 2 hour programs (what is even the point).

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I've heard this numerous times, mostly from older relatives who were SAHP. It's a boneheaded thing to say, but I brush it off and don't let it bother me. I was a SAHM for 3 years, and now work full time from home. Both arrangements presented their own set of challenges, and both were (are) extraordinarily rewarding in their own way. My kids have thrived in daycare, which was well-run and staffed by wonderful caring teachers whom the kids still speak fondly about, years later. Could it have worked well if I had SAH and dropped out of the workforce? Perhaps. But it was the right choice at the right time for my family.

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Anonymous wrote:If your infant takes a 2-hr am nap and a 2-hr pm nap, and sleeps like 11-12 hours a night, then your infant is only awake 9 hours a day. All these folks saying, well my nanny only spent 3-4 waking hours with my kid...I mean, I get that "3" and "4" sound like small numbers, but it is a full 30-40% of your child's waking hours. That's of course a meaningful difference in what you could be spending if you stayed home (and again, that's assuming you have a very good napper).

I'm a FT working mom, btw.

Me again - also what is this talk about 3 year olds going to preschool 5 days a week from 9-1? The majority of the SAHMs in my area send their 3 yr olds to preschool for 3 mornings a week (pick up at lunch). Haven't you heard of the "3 days 3's"? It's very silly to make up all these numbers and schedules. Certainly pre-ES, of course SAHMs spend an appreciably larger percentage of their kids' waking hours with them than do most WOHM (at least those with fairly typical schedules). How silly to pretend otherwise!

Yes it is true most SAHM's that are wealthy and poor send their kids to 5 days of preschool because of the value it adds. For the poor it's free and for the wealthy it's not a big deal.

But if you give up an income and have to skrimp I understand you can't send your kids 5 days a week and that's fine, they will be fine.

I live in a UMC suburb. The wealthy SAHMs here do "3 day 3's" -- preschool 3 mornings a week. They don't see a value beyond that amount of preschool time for a 3 yr old.

Our SAHM do preschool 5 days and aftercare 2-3 days a week (easier than playdates which have to be planned). Aftercare just ended up being easier than trying to figure out playdate in the middle of dinner.

I find this very hard to believe! Here (again, wealthy area with lots of SAHMs) the typical schedule is:

3yr olds - preschool 3 mornings a week (typically 9 to noon)
4 yr olds (i.e. "pre-k" year) - 5 days a week (typically 9-1)...some families do "enrichment" add-ons until 3ish one or two days a week
Then no aftercare once in ES, but some after-school ECs, playground meet-ups, etc.

+1
Our preschool was around 3 hrs / 3 days for pre-3, and 4 hours / 4 days for pre-K. Anything beyond those hours typically falls under the daycare umbrella.

+1

This is why we had a full time nanny.

OP to get back to topic. No, I don’t get offended that someone is so myopic as to believe their singular view is correct. I pity their ignorance and judge them accordingly. Lots of great SAHMs, WOHMs, nannies, SAHDs, WOHDs, grandparents, etc. As long as all the kids’ needs get met physically and emotionally - it’s all good.

Can you provide a link to preschools with 3x a week for 3 hours.

We also have a full time nanny for the infant but our 3 year old does 5 days a week preschool, because I can't find one that does 3 days a week. NW ish area or Bethesda would work.

Any church or temple based preschool is like this if they are not also trying to be a daycare. Methodist, Presbyterian or Episcopal are the most likely to offer preschool and typically very affordable because you aren't having to pay a lot extra for overhead - the church already has the space. Standard schedule is often 9am-12pm, some offer a "lunch bunch" from 12-1 or 1:30 or something like that and some just include it for everyone. They often still use the classroom 5 days a week but its shared between two classes. Ie: 3 day 3's use the classroom on MWF and 2 day 2's use the same room on TTH.

Here are some links! These programs really aren't tough to find.

https://www.ccpcwns.com/copy-of-nursery-school

https://ccbcchildrenscenter.org/programs/

That took a long time to find.

The 1st one is a church so yea ... no thanks.

The 2nd requires 5 days a week for 3.5 or older and the program is 9-12:30 (which is only 30 minutes shorter than the one I talked about). So if you want to split hairs for 6 months your child can do 3 days a week and 1/2 hour shorter.

You definitely are spending a TON of time more with your 3 year old.

/s lol.

They are both located in churches, but neither program is religious.

I live in an UMC Chicago suburb. I can think of 6 preschools off the top of my head (4 run through churches or temples and 2 that are totally secular) that offer 3 day 3's programs.

Here's one highly regarded secular option, just for example:

https://www.tamarakdaycamp.com/pdf/school_forms/TCS%20Class%20Descriptions%202024.2025.pdf

And those 3 day 3's options (with the earlier pick up) are what most of the SAHMs do around here. The fact that you would not do a church or temple preschool or would pick 5 days a week is all fine and dandy, but besides the point. Your narrative that all (or even many) of the 3 yr old kids of SAHMs are in preschool five days a week well into the afternoon is totally false! Seriously stop embarrassing yourself!

So you had to go all the way to the midwest to find a pre-school with a 3 day option?

Lady, stop! I live in the Chicago area now. My SAHM sister in Northern Virginia sent her 3 year old to a 3 day 3's program. It happens to be through a temple preschool (which we know isn't your cup of tea, but it's filled with the kids of SAHMs who are home with mom Tuesday and Thursday all day and by noon on Monday, Wednesday, Friday). I know, I know, just pretend these don't exist, got it! The types of preschools you are apparently looking at are filled with the kids of WOHMs with nannies in the afternoon.

I was not looking for a mommy and me type of situation since I had a nanny, I was looking for a preschool that prepared kids for K. It's not all that complex. All the programs in our area were 5 days a week 9-1.

The 3 day 3's programs I'm talking about are NOT mommy and me; they are 100% drop-off. Most people are looking for their kid's 4 yr-old preschool year (i.e, the pre-k year) to be the year that prepares them for kindergarten. I do see a lot of SAHM choose a 5-day option for the pre-k year, not suggesting otherwise. But I thought we were talking about 3-year old options (in other words, kid still has two years of preschool before kinder). You most certainly did not look hard enough if you could not find a 3 morning a week drop-off option for your 3 yr old. (And then follow that the next year by a 5-day option that is focused on preparing them for kinder.)

I know my area must have 20+ preschools. I would estimate half or more had a 3 day option.

I used to work and send my kid to a preschool with extended care. Even that school let me start off with 3 days. You just need another kid to take the 2 days. Not everyone wants 5 days. There were so many options at that school. 2 days half day to 5 days full day. They charged basically the same for 3 days as 5 days. If it was 1000 for 5 days, I probably paid 800 for 3 days or something like that. And if you wanted half day va full day, the price difference was also small.

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I'm a FT working mom, btw.

Me again - also what is this talk about 3 year olds going to preschool 5 days a week from 9-1? The majority of the SAHMs in my area send their 3 yr olds to preschool for 3 mornings a week (pick up at lunch). Haven't you heard of the "3 days 3's"? It's very silly to make up all these numbers and schedules. Certainly pre-ES, of course SAHMs spend an appreciably larger percentage of their kids' waking hours with them than do most WOHM (at least those with fairly typical schedules). How silly to pretend otherwise!

Yes it is true most SAHM's that are wealthy and poor send their kids to 5 days of preschool because of the value it adds. For the poor it's free and for the wealthy it's not a big deal.

But if you give up an income and have to skrimp I understand you can't send your kids 5 days a week and that's fine, they will be fine.

I live in a UMC suburb. The wealthy SAHMs here do "3 day 3's" -- preschool 3 mornings a week. They don't see a value beyond that amount of preschool time for a 3 yr old.

Our SAHM do preschool 5 days and aftercare 2-3 days a week (easier than playdates which have to be planned). Aftercare just ended up being easier than trying to figure out playdate in the middle of dinner.

I find this very hard to believe! Here (again, wealthy area with lots of SAHMs) the typical schedule is:

3yr olds - preschool 3 mornings a week (typically 9 to noon)
4 yr olds (i.e. "pre-k" year) - 5 days a week (typically 9-1)...some families do "enrichment" add-ons until 3ish one or two days a week
Then no aftercare once in ES, but some after-school ECs, playground meet-ups, etc.

+1
Our preschool was around 3 hrs / 3 days for pre-3, and 4 hours / 4 days for pre-K. Anything beyond those hours typically falls under the daycare umbrella.

+1

This is why we had a full time nanny.

OP to get back to topic. No, I don’t get offended that someone is so myopic as to believe their singular view is correct. I pity their ignorance and judge them accordingly. Lots of great SAHMs, WOHMs, nannies, SAHDs, WOHDs, grandparents, etc. As long as all the kids’ needs get met physically and emotionally - it’s all good.

Can you provide a link to preschools with 3x a week for 3 hours.

We also have a full time nanny for the infant but our 3 year old does 5 days a week preschool, because I can't find one that does 3 days a week. NW ish area or Bethesda would work.

Any church or temple based preschool is like this if they are not also trying to be a daycare. Methodist, Presbyterian or Episcopal are the most likely to offer preschool and typically very affordable because you aren't having to pay a lot extra for overhead - the church already has the space. Standard schedule is often 9am-12pm, some offer a "lunch bunch" from 12-1 or 1:30 or something like that and some just include it for everyone. They often still use the classroom 5 days a week but its shared between two classes. Ie: 3 day 3's use the classroom on MWF and 2 day 2's use the same room on TTH.

Here are some links! These programs really aren't tough to find.

https://www.ccpcwns.com/copy-of-nursery-school

https://ccbcchildrenscenter.org/programs/

That took a long time to find.

The 1st one is a church so yea ... no thanks.

The 2nd requires 5 days a week for 3.5 or older and the program is 9-12:30 (which is only 30 minutes shorter than the one I talked about). So if you want to split hairs for 6 months your child can do 3 days a week and 1/2 hour shorter.

You definitely are spending a TON of time more with your 3 year old.

/s lol.

They are both located in churches, but neither program is religious.

I live in an UMC Chicago suburb. I can think of 6 preschools off the top of my head (4 run through churches or temples and 2 that are totally secular) that offer 3 day 3's programs.

Here's one highly regarded secular option, just for example:

https://www.tamarakdaycamp.com/pdf/school_forms/TCS%20Class%20Descriptions%202024.2025.pdf

And those 3 day 3's options (with the earlier pick up) are what most of the SAHMs do around here. The fact that you would not do a church or temple preschool or would pick 5 days a week is all fine and dandy, but besides the point. Your narrative that all (or even many) of the 3 yr old kids of SAHMs are in preschool five days a week well into the afternoon is totally false! Seriously stop embarrassing yourself!

So you had to go all the way to the midwest to find a pre-school with a 3 day option?

Lady, stop! I live in the Chicago area now. My SAHM sister in Northern Virginia sent her 3 year old to a 3 day 3's program. It happens to be through a temple preschool (which we know isn't your cup of tea, but it's filled with the kids of SAHMs who are home with mom Tuesday and Thursday all day and by noon on Monday, Wednesday, Friday). I know, I know, just pretend these don't exist, got it! The types of preschools you are apparently looking at are filled with the kids of WOHMs with nannies in the afternoon.

I was not looking for a mommy and me type of situation since I had a nanny, I was looking for a preschool that prepared kids for K. It's not all that complex. All the programs in our area were 5 days a week 9-1.

The 3 day 3's programs I'm talking about are NOT mommy and me; they are 100% drop-off. Most people are looking for their kid's 4 yr-old preschool year (i.e, the pre-k year) to be the year that prepares them for kindergarten. I do see a lot of SAHM choose a 5-day option for the pre-k year, not suggesting otherwise. But I thought we were talking about 3-year old options (in other words, kid still has two years of preschool before kinder). You most certainly did not look hard enough if you could not find a 3 morning a week drop-off option for your 3 yr old. (And then follow that the next year by a 5-day option that is focused on preparing them for kinder.)

I know my area must have 20+ preschools. I would estimate half or more had a 3 day option.

I used to work and send my kid to a preschool with extended care. Even that school let me start off with 3 days. You just need another kid to take the 2 days. Not everyone wants 5 days. There were so many options at that school. 2 days half day to 5 days full day. They charged basically the same for 3 days as 5 days. If it was 1000 for 5 days, I probably paid 800 for 3 days or something like that. And if you wanted half day va full day, the price difference was also small.

My oldest went to a preschool (which we happened to LOVE!) that sounds very similar...you could kind of build your week how you needed to in terms of number of days, lunch pick up versus extended days, etc., because the school could usually find a kid for the room that wanted the hours/days that you did not. When this kid was 3, I was WOHM with a nanny so we did 5 mornings a week. Pretty much all the other 3 yr olds in that room doing 5 days also had WOHMs, except for one little girl whose SAHM had just had twins!

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Anonymous wrote:If your infant takes a 2-hr am nap and a 2-hr pm nap, and sleeps like 11-12 hours a night, then your infant is only awake 9 hours a day. All these folks saying, well my nanny only spent 3-4 waking hours with my kid...I mean, I get that "3" and "4" sound like small numbers, but it is a full 30-40% of your child's waking hours. That's of course a meaningful difference in what you could be spending if you stayed home (and again, that's assuming you have a very good napper).

I'm a FT working mom, btw.

Me again - also what is this talk about 3 year olds going to preschool 5 days a week from 9-1? The majority of the SAHMs in my area send their 3 yr olds to preschool for 3 mornings a week (pick up at lunch). Haven't you heard of the "3 days 3's"? It's very silly to make up all these numbers and schedules. Certainly pre-ES, of course SAHMs spend an appreciably larger percentage of their kids' waking hours with them than do most WOHM (at least those with fairly typical schedules). How silly to pretend otherwise!

Yes it is true most SAHM's that are wealthy and poor send their kids to 5 days of preschool because of the value it adds. For the poor it's free and for the wealthy it's not a big deal.

But if you give up an income and have to skrimp I understand you can't send your kids 5 days a week and that's fine, they will be fine.

I live in a UMC suburb. The wealthy SAHMs here do "3 day 3's" -- preschool 3 mornings a week. They don't see a value beyond that amount of preschool time for a 3 yr old.

Our SAHM do preschool 5 days and aftercare 2-3 days a week (easier than playdates which have to be planned). Aftercare just ended up being easier than trying to figure out playdate in the middle of dinner.

I find this very hard to believe! Here (again, wealthy area with lots of SAHMs) the typical schedule is:

3yr olds - preschool 3 mornings a week (typically 9 to noon)
4 yr olds (i.e. "pre-k" year) - 5 days a week (typically 9-1)...some families do "enrichment" add-ons until 3ish one or two days a week
Then no aftercare once in ES, but some after-school ECs, playground meet-ups, etc.

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Our preschool was around 3 hrs / 3 days for pre-3, and 4 hours / 4 days for pre-K. Anything beyond those hours typically falls under the daycare umbrella.

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This is why we had a full time nanny.

OP to get back to topic. No, I don’t get offended that someone is so myopic as to believe their singular view is correct. I pity their ignorance and judge them accordingly. Lots of great SAHMs, WOHMs, nannies, SAHDs, WOHDs, grandparents, etc. As long as all the kids’ needs get met physically and emotionally - it’s all good.

Can you provide a link to preschools with 3x a week for 3 hours.

We also have a full time nanny for the infant but our 3 year old does 5 days a week preschool, because I can't find one that does 3 days a week. NW ish area or Bethesda would work.

Any church or temple based preschool is like this if they are not also trying to be a daycare. Methodist, Presbyterian or Episcopal are the most likely to offer preschool and typically very affordable because you aren't having to pay a lot extra for overhead - the church already has the space. Standard schedule is often 9am-12pm, some offer a "lunch bunch" from 12-1 or 1:30 or something like that and some just include it for everyone. They often still use the classroom 5 days a week but its shared between two classes. Ie: 3 day 3's use the classroom on MWF and 2 day 2's use the same room on TTH.

Here are some links! These programs really aren't tough to find.

https://www.ccpcwns.com/copy-of-nursery-school

https://ccbcchildrenscenter.org/programs/

That took a long time to find.

The 1st one is a church so yea ... no thanks.

The 2nd requires 5 days a week for 3.5 or older and the program is 9-12:30 (which is only 30 minutes shorter than the one I talked about). So if you want to split hairs for 6 months your child can do 3 days a week and 1/2 hour shorter.

You definitely are spending a TON of time more with your 3 year old.

/s lol.

They are both located in churches, but neither program is religious.

I live in an UMC Chicago suburb. I can think of 6 preschools off the top of my head (4 run through churches or temples and 2 that are totally secular) that offer 3 day 3's programs.

Here's one highly regarded secular option, just for example:

https://www.tamarakdaycamp.com/pdf/school_forms/TCS%20Class%20Descriptions%202024.2025.pdf

And those 3 day 3's options (with the earlier pick up) are what most of the SAHMs do around here. The fact that you would not do a church or temple preschool or would pick 5 days a week is all fine and dandy, but besides the point. Your narrative that all (or even many) of the 3 yr old kids of SAHMs are in preschool five days a week well into the afternoon is totally false! Seriously stop embarrassing yourself!

So you had to go all the way to the midwest to find a pre-school with a 3 day option?

Are you actually looking for a 3 day preschool or not? Seems like not.

I had a nanny, i looked for a preschool for my kids at the time to prepare them for K, there was only a 5 day option. i had a nanny, I didn't need "day care", the only options were 5 days. Why is this so complicated for you.

I guess you don’t google well. These options exist but somehow only you can’t find them. Oh well.

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Anonymous wrote:If your infant takes a 2-hr am nap and a 2-hr pm nap, and sleeps like 11-12 hours a night, then your infant is only awake 9 hours a day. All these folks saying, well my nanny only spent 3-4 waking hours with my kid...I mean, I get that "3" and "4" sound like small numbers, but it is a full 30-40% of your child's waking hours. That's of course a meaningful difference in what you could be spending if you stayed home (and again, that's assuming you have a very good napper).

I'm a FT working mom, btw.

Me again - also what is this talk about 3 year olds going to preschool 5 days a week from 9-1? The majority of the SAHMs in my area send their 3 yr olds to preschool for 3 mornings a week (pick up at lunch). Haven't you heard of the "3 days 3's"? It's very silly to make up all these numbers and schedules. Certainly pre-ES, of course SAHMs spend an appreciably larger percentage of their kids' waking hours with them than do most WOHM (at least those with fairly typical schedules). How silly to pretend otherwise!

Yes it is true most SAHM's that are wealthy and poor send their kids to 5 days of preschool because of the value it adds. For the poor it's free and for the wealthy it's not a big deal.

But if you give up an income and have to skrimp I understand you can't send your kids 5 days a week and that's fine, they will be fine.

I live in a UMC suburb. The wealthy SAHMs here do "3 day 3's" -- preschool 3 mornings a week. They don't see a value beyond that amount of preschool time for a 3 yr old.

Our SAHM do preschool 5 days and aftercare 2-3 days a week (easier than playdates which have to be planned). Aftercare just ended up being easier than trying to figure out playdate in the middle of dinner.

I find this very hard to believe! Here (again, wealthy area with lots of SAHMs) the typical schedule is:

3yr olds - preschool 3 mornings a week (typically 9 to noon)
4 yr olds (i.e. "pre-k" year) - 5 days a week (typically 9-1)...some families do "enrichment" add-ons until 3ish one or two days a week
Then no aftercare once in ES, but some after-school ECs, playground meet-ups, etc.

+1
Our preschool was around 3 hrs / 3 days for pre-3, and 4 hours / 4 days for pre-K. Anything beyond those hours typically falls under the daycare umbrella.

+1

This is why we had a full time nanny.

OP to get back to topic. No, I don’t get offended that someone is so myopic as to believe their singular view is correct. I pity their ignorance and judge them accordingly. Lots of great SAHMs, WOHMs, nannies, SAHDs, WOHDs, grandparents, etc. As long as all the kids’ needs get met physically and emotionally - it’s all good.

Can you provide a link to preschools with 3x a week for 3 hours.

We also have a full time nanny for the infant but our 3 year old does 5 days a week preschool, because I can't find one that does 3 days a week. NW ish area or Bethesda would work.

Any church or temple based preschool is like this if they are not also trying to be a daycare. Methodist, Presbyterian or Episcopal are the most likely to offer preschool and typically very affordable because you aren't having to pay a lot extra for overhead - the church already has the space. Standard schedule is often 9am-12pm, some offer a "lunch bunch" from 12-1 or 1:30 or something like that and some just include it for everyone. They often still use the classroom 5 days a week but its shared between two classes. Ie: 3 day 3's use the classroom on MWF and 2 day 2's use the same room on TTH.

Here are some links! These programs really aren't tough to find.

https://www.ccpcwns.com/copy-of-nursery-school

https://ccbcchildrenscenter.org/programs/

That took a long time to find.

The 1st one is a church so yea ... no thanks.

The 2nd requires 5 days a week for 3.5 or older and the program is 9-12:30 (which is only 30 minutes shorter than the one I talked about). So if you want to split hairs for 6 months your child can do 3 days a week and 1/2 hour shorter.

You definitely are spending a TON of time more with your 3 year old.

/s lol.

They are both located in churches, but neither program is religious.

I live in an UMC Chicago suburb. I can think of 6 preschools off the top of my head (4 run through churches or temples and 2 that are totally secular) that offer 3 day 3's programs.

Here's one highly regarded secular option, just for example:

https://www.tamarakdaycamp.com/pdf/school_forms/TCS%20Class%20Descriptions%202024.2025.pdf

And those 3 day 3's options (with the earlier pick up) are what most of the SAHMs do around here. The fact that you would not do a church or temple preschool or would pick 5 days a week is all fine and dandy, but besides the point. Your narrative that all (or even many) of the 3 yr old kids of SAHMs are in preschool five days a week well into the afternoon is totally false! Seriously stop embarrassing yourself!

So you had to go all the way to the midwest to find a pre-school with a 3 day option?

Lady, stop! I live in the Chicago area now. My SAHM sister in Northern Virginia sent her 3 year old to a 3 day 3's program. It happens to be through a temple preschool (which we know isn't your cup of tea, but it's filled with the kids of SAHMs who are home with mom Tuesday and Thursday all day and by noon on Monday, Wednesday, Friday). I know, I know, just pretend these don't exist, got it! The types of preschools you are apparently looking at are filled with the kids of WOHMs with nannies in the afternoon.

I was not looking for a mommy and me type of situation since I had a nanny, I was looking for a preschool that prepared kids for K. It's not all that complex. All the programs in our area were 5 days a week 9-1.

The 3 day 3's programs I'm talking about are NOT mommy and me; they are 100% drop-off. Most people are looking for their kid's 4 yr-old preschool year (i.e, the pre-k year) to be the year that prepares them for kindergarten. I do see a lot of SAHM choose a 5-day option for the pre-k year, not suggesting otherwise. But I thought we were talking about 3-year old options (in other words, kid still has two years of preschool before kinder). You most certainly did not look hard enough if you could not find a 3 morning a week drop-off option for your 3 yr old. (And then follow that the next year by a 5-day option that is focused on preparing them for kinder.)

That must be it, I only looked at one place and never looked at others. LOL, okay that's it. Dude, there are waiting lists for places and you think i'm gonna find a plethora of 3 day 2 hour programs (what is even the point).

Dude, you’re gonna have a hard time in the future if preschool was a challenge.

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Anonymous wrote:If your infant takes a 2-hr am nap and a 2-hr pm nap, and sleeps like 11-12 hours a night, then your infant is only awake 9 hours a day. All these folks saying, well my nanny only spent 3-4 waking hours with my kid...I mean, I get that "3" and "4" sound like small numbers, but it is a full 30-40% of your child's waking hours. That's of course a meaningful difference in what you could be spending if you stayed home (and again, that's assuming you have a very good napper).

I'm a FT working mom, btw.

Me again - also what is this talk about 3 year olds going to preschool 5 days a week from 9-1? The majority of the SAHMs in my area send their 3 yr olds to preschool for 3 mornings a week (pick up at lunch). Haven't you heard of the "3 days 3's"? It's very silly to make up all these numbers and schedules. Certainly pre-ES, of course SAHMs spend an appreciably larger percentage of their kids' waking hours with them than do most WOHM (at least those with fairly typical schedules). How silly to pretend otherwise!

Yes it is true most SAHM's that are wealthy and poor send their kids to 5 days of preschool because of the value it adds. For the poor it's free and for the wealthy it's not a big deal.

But if you give up an income and have to skrimp I understand you can't send your kids 5 days a week and that's fine, they will be fine.

I live in a UMC suburb. The wealthy SAHMs here do "3 day 3's" -- preschool 3 mornings a week. They don't see a value beyond that amount of preschool time for a 3 yr old.

Our SAHM do preschool 5 days and aftercare 2-3 days a week (easier than playdates which have to be planned). Aftercare just ended up being easier than trying to figure out playdate in the middle of dinner.

I find this very hard to believe! Here (again, wealthy area with lots of SAHMs) the typical schedule is:

3yr olds - preschool 3 mornings a week (typically 9 to noon)
4 yr olds (i.e. "pre-k" year) - 5 days a week (typically 9-1)...some families do "enrichment" add-ons until 3ish one or two days a week
Then no aftercare once in ES, but some after-school ECs, playground meet-ups, etc.

+1
Our preschool was around 3 hrs / 3 days for pre-3, and 4 hours / 4 days for pre-K. Anything beyond those hours typically falls under the daycare umbrella.

+1

This is why we had a full time nanny.

OP to get back to topic. No, I don’t get offended that someone is so myopic as to believe their singular view is correct. I pity their ignorance and judge them accordingly. Lots of great SAHMs, WOHMs, nannies, SAHDs, WOHDs, grandparents, etc. As long as all the kids’ needs get met physically and emotionally - it’s all good.

Can you provide a link to preschools with 3x a week for 3 hours.

We also have a full time nanny for the infant but our 3 year old does 5 days a week preschool, because I can't find one that does 3 days a week. NW ish area or Bethesda would work.

Any church or temple based preschool is like this if they are not also trying to be a daycare. Methodist, Presbyterian or Episcopal are the most likely to offer preschool and typically very affordable because you aren't having to pay a lot extra for overhead - the church already has the space. Standard schedule is often 9am-12pm, some offer a "lunch bunch" from 12-1 or 1:30 or something like that and some just include it for everyone. They often still use the classroom 5 days a week but its shared between two classes. Ie: 3 day 3's use the classroom on MWF and 2 day 2's use the same room on TTH.

Here are some links! These programs really aren't tough to find.

https://www.ccpcwns.com/copy-of-nursery-school

https://ccbcchildrenscenter.org/programs/

That took a long time to find.

The 1st one is a church so yea ... no thanks.

The 2nd requires 5 days a week for 3.5 or older and the program is 9-12:30 (which is only 30 minutes shorter than the one I talked about). So if you want to split hairs for 6 months your child can do 3 days a week and 1/2 hour shorter.

You definitely are spending a TON of time more with your 3 year old.

/s lol.

They are both located in churches, but neither program is religious.

I live in an UMC Chicago suburb. I can think of 6 preschools off the top of my head (4 run through churches or temples and 2 that are totally secular) that offer 3 day 3's programs.

Here's one highly regarded secular option, just for example:

https://www.tamarakdaycamp.com/pdf/school_forms/TCS%20Class%20Descriptions%202024.2025.pdf

And those 3 day 3's options (with the earlier pick up) are what most of the SAHMs do around here. The fact that you would not do a church or temple preschool or would pick 5 days a week is all fine and dandy, but besides the point. Your narrative that all (or even many) of the 3 yr old kids of SAHMs are in preschool five days a week well into the afternoon is totally false! Seriously stop embarrassing yourself!

So you had to go all the way to the midwest to find a pre-school with a 3 day option?

Are you actually looking for a 3 day preschool or not? Seems like not.

There are a bunch in NW and Bethesda as well as in Westchester, where I used to live. The preschool all of my kids went to even had a lunch bunch.