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Anonymous wrote:So anyway, over under on how many centreville and Chantilly kids get moved to Westfield?


Isn't Chantilly considered a "neighborhood school?" So many families in the Greenbrier, Brookfield and Poplar Tree neighborhoods that are all walkers to the school. Would they really move kids who walk to school now miles away and have to move them by bus?


The school board is looking to alleviate overcrowding, and there is a real issue at centreville and chantilly. Sure it might be fixed six or seven years in the future, assuming the taxpayers approve a massive expansion, but that over browsing is an issue today. If they are serious about addressing under capacity or over capacity issues, they must do something at these two schools.



Where are you zoned? Some of the biggest advocates for “doing something” for Chantilly live elsewhere and have their own motives. They are fervently trying to game potential boundary changes so other kids get moved and their kids stay at their current schools.

If you are personally looking to move from Chantilly to Westfield, please let us know.


Misdirection. They just passed Policy 8130 and overcrowding is one of the big four factors.

Your whataboutism goes against the policy that they just passed this summer. I didn’t write the policy, the school board did. Talk to them.


You didn’t answer the question. Where are YOU zoned?


Crickets, of course.

They push boundary changes that affect other people’s kids with the hope their own boundaries will be untouched.


Immaterial. Centreville is overcapacity. Chantilly is too. That is a fact.


Quite material.

Where are your kids zoned?


The board makes the decisions. They’ve decided that overcrowded schools will be moved.

If you don’t like it, talk to your reps.


Of course the School Board makes the decisions, dimwit.

Now tell us where you’re zoned so we can assess why you have such an interest in kids getting moved out of Centreville and Chantilly.


You first, madam.


You’re the one so interested in moving kids out of those two schools. Tell us where you’re zoned.


Why are you so mad at me? I’m just conveying to you that centreville and chantilly are grossly overcapacity, and the fix is more than five years away.

Take it up with the school board.



Centreville is down 125 kids from last year and the last CIP had Centreville at 104% in 2028-29. It’s not going to be grossly overcrowded, and is slated to be expanded in any event.

So why are you worried about Centreville? Where do you have kids?


Centreville is currently 118% capacity with modulars and 127%(!!!) without. Projection without modulars is 113% in SY28-29. Their goal is to get rid of modulars.

Tell me how centreville isn’t grossly overcapacity?


You’re using last year’s numbers, when the enrollment is down over 125 kids this year. And who is to say the families wouldn’t prefer to stay at the school with a modular rather than be redistricted? FCPS has long treated modulars, although not trailers, the same as permanent classrooms when calculating capacity.


Even using this year’s number, centreville is at 119% without modulars. That’s just simple math.

Dunne has made it clear the goal is to eliminate modulars.

Those centreville kids need relief now.


Debatable when there’s an 8% decline in overcrowding in one year, there’s already a plan to expand Centreville, and Dunne doesn’t even represent the school. He can redistrict West Potomac and Mount Vernon if he’s so concerned about capacity imbalances.

If there are Centreville or Chantilly families looking for “relief,” they’d be identifying themselves as such and speaking up here. You’re just trying to construct a series of moves that you think would keep all of Great Falls at Langley, even when kids live at opposite ends of the county.


Why shouldn’t centreville and chantilly get relief now? Sure they’ll possibly have an expanded school many years from now, if taxpayers ultimately decide to fund the expansion, but that doesn’t alleviate the significant overcrowding concerns now at the schools.

The school board says that modulars are a safety concern. They are looking to get rid of them at every school -presumably your kids’ too.

What makes centreville so special that it should not be included in the county wide boundary changes?


If this is the case, why are they moving the Brookfield ES kids into them for the next 2.5 years? Remodeling yes, but safety first! Ditto for the entire sixth grade at Greenbrier East who are now in trailers.
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Anonymous wrote:So anyway, over under on how many centreville and Chantilly kids get moved to Westfield?


Isn't Chantilly considered a "neighborhood school?" So many families in the Greenbrier, Brookfield and Poplar Tree neighborhoods that are all walkers to the school. Would they really move kids who walk to school now miles away and have to move them by bus?


The school board is looking to alleviate overcrowding, and there is a real issue at centreville and chantilly. Sure it might be fixed six or seven years in the future, assuming the taxpayers approve a massive expansion, but that over browsing is an issue today. If they are serious about addressing under capacity or over capacity issues, they must do something at these two schools.



Where are you zoned? Some of the biggest advocates for “doing something” for Chantilly live elsewhere and have their own motives. They are fervently trying to game potential boundary changes so other kids get moved and their kids stay at their current schools.

If you are personally looking to move from Chantilly to Westfield, please let us know.


Misdirection. They just passed Policy 8130 and overcrowding is one of the big four factors.

Your whataboutism goes against the policy that they just passed this summer. I didn’t write the policy, the school board did. Talk to them.


You didn’t answer the question. Where are YOU zoned?


Crickets, of course.

They push boundary changes that affect other people’s kids with the hope their own boundaries will be untouched.


Immaterial. Centreville is overcapacity. Chantilly is too. That is a fact.


Quite material.

Where are your kids zoned?


The board makes the decisions. They’ve decided that overcrowded schools will be moved.

If you don’t like it, talk to your reps.


Of course the School Board makes the decisions, dimwit.

Now tell us where you’re zoned so we can assess why you have such an interest in kids getting moved out of Centreville and Chantilly.


You first, madam.


You’re the one so interested in moving kids out of those two schools. Tell us where you’re zoned.


Why are you so mad at me? I’m just conveying to you that centreville and chantilly are grossly overcapacity, and the fix is more than five years away.

Take it up with the school board.



Centreville is down 125 kids from last year and the last CIP had Centreville at 104% in 2028-29. It’s not going to be grossly overcrowded, and is slated to be expanded in any event.

So why are you worried about Centreville? Where do you have kids?


Centreville is currently 118% capacity with modulars and 127%(!!!) without. Projection without modulars is 113% in SY28-29. Their goal is to get rid of modulars.

Tell me how centreville isn’t grossly overcapacity?


You’re using last year’s numbers, when the enrollment is down over 125 kids this year. And who is to say the families wouldn’t prefer to stay at the school with a modular rather than be redistricted? FCPS has long treated modulars, although not trailers, the same as permanent classrooms when calculating capacity.


Even using this year’s number, centreville is at 119% without modulars. That’s just simple math.

Dunne has made it clear the goal is to eliminate modulars.

Those centreville kids need relief now.


Debatable when there’s an 8% decline in overcrowding in one year, there’s already a plan to expand Centreville, and Dunne doesn’t even represent the school. He can redistrict West Potomac and Mount Vernon if he’s so concerned about capacity imbalances.

If there are Centreville or Chantilly families looking for “relief,” they’d be identifying themselves as such and speaking up here. You’re just trying to construct a series of moves that you think would keep all of Great Falls at Langley, even when kids live at opposite ends of the county.


DP with zero skin in this game (my kids are zoned to Oakton even though we are physically closer to Chantilly and South Lakes and we're fine with that). I'm not sure how these are even part of the same conversation -- kids that are zoned to Centreville or Chantilly wouldn't be the same kids that are zoned to Langley, so why is this a competition? Are you concerned that kids from Chantilly will break rezoned to Herndon but you'd rather rezone kids from Langley to Herndon? I don't understand what this argument is about. And what about Westfield? Aren't kids that go to Westfield closer to Chantilly and Herndon, too?
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Anonymous wrote:So anyway, over under on how many centreville and Chantilly kids get moved to Westfield?


Isn't Chantilly considered a "neighborhood school?" So many families in the Greenbrier, Brookfield and Poplar Tree neighborhoods that are all walkers to the school. Would they really move kids who walk to school now miles away and have to move them by bus?


The school board is looking to alleviate overcrowding, and there is a real issue at centreville and chantilly. Sure it might be fixed six or seven years in the future, assuming the taxpayers approve a massive expansion, but that over browsing is an issue today. If they are serious about addressing under capacity or over capacity issues, they must do something at these two schools.



Where are you zoned? Some of the biggest advocates for “doing something” for Chantilly live elsewhere and have their own motives. They are fervently trying to game potential boundary changes so other kids get moved and their kids stay at their current schools.

If you are personally looking to move from Chantilly to Westfield, please let us know.


Misdirection. They just passed Policy 8130 and overcrowding is one of the big four factors.

Your whataboutism goes against the policy that they just passed this summer. I didn’t write the policy, the school board did. Talk to them.


You didn’t answer the question. Where are YOU zoned?


Crickets, of course.

They push boundary changes that affect other people’s kids with the hope their own boundaries will be untouched.


Immaterial. Centreville is overcapacity. Chantilly is too. That is a fact.


Quite material.

Where are your kids zoned?


The board makes the decisions. They’ve decided that overcrowded schools will be moved.

If you don’t like it, talk to your reps.


Of course the School Board makes the decisions, dimwit.

Now tell us where you’re zoned so we can assess why you have such an interest in kids getting moved out of Centreville and Chantilly.


You first, madam.


You’re the one so interested in moving kids out of those two schools. Tell us where you’re zoned.


Why are you so mad at me? I’m just conveying to you that centreville and chantilly are grossly overcapacity, and the fix is more than five years away.

Take it up with the school board.



Centreville is down 125 kids from last year and the last CIP had Centreville at 104% in 2028-29. It’s not going to be grossly overcrowded, and is slated to be expanded in any event.

So why are you worried about Centreville? Where do you have kids?


Centreville is currently 118% capacity with modulars and 127%(!!!) without. Projection without modulars is 113% in SY28-29. Their goal is to get rid of modulars.

Tell me how centreville isn’t grossly overcapacity?


You’re using last year’s numbers, when the enrollment is down over 125 kids this year. And who is to say the families wouldn’t prefer to stay at the school with a modular rather than be redistricted? FCPS has long treated modulars, although not trailers, the same as permanent classrooms when calculating capacity.


Even using this year’s number, centreville is at 119% without modulars. That’s just simple math.

Dunne has made it clear the goal is to eliminate modulars.

Those centreville kids need relief now.


Debatable when there’s an 8% decline in overcrowding in one year, there’s already a plan to expand Centreville, and Dunne doesn’t even represent the school. He can redistrict West Potomac and Mount Vernon if he’s so concerned about capacity imbalances.

If there are Centreville or Chantilly families looking for “relief,” they’d be identifying themselves as such and speaking up here. You’re just trying to construct a series of moves that you think would keep all of Great Falls at Langley, even when kids live at opposite ends of the county.


Why shouldn’t centreville and chantilly get relief now? Sure they’ll possibly have an expanded school many years from now, if taxpayers ultimately decide to fund the expansion, but that doesn’t alleviate the significant overcrowding concerns now at the schools.

The school board says that modulars are a safety concern. They are looking to get rid of them at every school -presumably your kids’ too.

What makes centreville so special that it should not be included in the county wide boundary changes?


If this is the case, why are they moving the Brookfield ES kids into them for the next 2.5 years? Remodeling yes, but safety first! Ditto for the entire sixth grade at Greenbrier East who are now in trailers.


Where else do you propose they put kids when their school is being remodeled?
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Anonymous wrote:So anyway, over under on how many centreville and Chantilly kids get moved to Westfield?


Isn't Chantilly considered a "neighborhood school?" So many families in the Greenbrier, Brookfield and Poplar Tree neighborhoods that are all walkers to the school. Would they really move kids who walk to school now miles away and have to move them by bus?


The school board is looking to alleviate overcrowding, and there is a real issue at centreville and chantilly. Sure it might be fixed six or seven years in the future, assuming the taxpayers approve a massive expansion, but that over browsing is an issue today. If they are serious about addressing under capacity or over capacity issues, they must do something at these two schools.



Where are you zoned? Some of the biggest advocates for “doing something” for Chantilly live elsewhere and have their own motives. They are fervently trying to game potential boundary changes so other kids get moved and their kids stay at their current schools.

If you are personally looking to move from Chantilly to Westfield, please let us know.


Misdirection. They just passed Policy 8130 and overcrowding is one of the big four factors.

Your whataboutism goes against the policy that they just passed this summer. I didn’t write the policy, the school board did. Talk to them.


You didn’t answer the question. Where are YOU zoned?


Crickets, of course.

They push boundary changes that affect other people’s kids with the hope their own boundaries will be untouched.


Immaterial. Centreville is overcapacity. Chantilly is too. That is a fact.


Quite material.

Where are your kids zoned?


The board makes the decisions. They’ve decided that overcrowded schools will be moved.

If you don’t like it, talk to your reps.


Of course the School Board makes the decisions, dimwit.

Now tell us where you’re zoned so we can assess why you have such an interest in kids getting moved out of Centreville and Chantilly.


You first, madam.


You’re the one so interested in moving kids out of those two schools. Tell us where you’re zoned.


Why are you so mad at me? I’m just conveying to you that centreville and chantilly are grossly overcapacity, and the fix is more than five years away.

Take it up with the school board.



Centreville is down 125 kids from last year and the last CIP had Centreville at 104% in 2028-29. It’s not going to be grossly overcrowded, and is slated to be expanded in any event.

So why are you worried about Centreville? Where do you have kids?


Centreville is currently 118% capacity with modulars and 127%(!!!) without. Projection without modulars is 113% in SY28-29. Their goal is to get rid of modulars.

Tell me how centreville isn’t grossly overcapacity?


You’re using last year’s numbers, when the enrollment is down over 125 kids this year. And who is to say the families wouldn’t prefer to stay at the school with a modular rather than be redistricted? FCPS has long treated modulars, although not trailers, the same as permanent classrooms when calculating capacity.


Even using this year’s number, centreville is at 119% without modulars. That’s just simple math.

Dunne has made it clear the goal is to eliminate modulars.

Those centreville kids need relief now.


Debatable when there’s an 8% decline in overcrowding in one year, there’s already a plan to expand Centreville, and Dunne doesn’t even represent the school. He can redistrict West Potomac and Mount Vernon if he’s so concerned about capacity imbalances.

If there are Centreville or Chantilly families looking for “relief,” they’d be identifying themselves as such and speaking up here. You’re just trying to construct a series of moves that you think would keep all of Great Falls at Langley, even when kids live at opposite ends of the county.


Why shouldn’t centreville and chantilly get relief now? Sure they’ll possibly have an expanded school many years from now, if taxpayers ultimately decide to fund the expansion, but that doesn’t alleviate the significant overcrowding concerns now at the schools.

The school board says that modulars are a safety concern. They are looking to get rid of them at every school -presumably your kids’ too.

What makes centreville so special that it should not be included in the county wide boundary changes?


If this is the case, why are they moving the Brookfield ES kids into them for the next 2.5 years? Remodeling yes, but safety first! Ditto for the entire sixth grade at Greenbrier East who are now in trailers.


Where else do you propose they put kids when their school is being remodeled?

That’s the point. An earlier PP was suggesting modulars never be used, which would mean in the event of renovations, the entire county would have to adjust its boundaries to absorb the seats until they were finished being built. That’s not going to happen.
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Anonymous wrote:So anyway, over under on how many centreville and Chantilly kids get moved to Westfield?


Isn't Chantilly considered a "neighborhood school?" So many families in the Greenbrier, Brookfield and Poplar Tree neighborhoods that are all walkers to the school. Would they really move kids who walk to school now miles away and have to move them by bus?


The school board is looking to alleviate overcrowding, and there is a real issue at centreville and chantilly. Sure it might be fixed six or seven years in the future, assuming the taxpayers approve a massive expansion, but that over browsing is an issue today. If they are serious about addressing under capacity or over capacity issues, they must do something at these two schools.



Where are you zoned? Some of the biggest advocates for “doing something” for Chantilly live elsewhere and have their own motives. They are fervently trying to game potential boundary changes so other kids get moved and their kids stay at their current schools.

If you are personally looking to move from Chantilly to Westfield, please let us know.


Misdirection. They just passed Policy 8130 and overcrowding is one of the big four factors.

Your whataboutism goes against the policy that they just passed this summer. I didn’t write the policy, the school board did. Talk to them.


You didn’t answer the question. Where are YOU zoned?


Crickets, of course.

They push boundary changes that affect other people’s kids with the hope their own boundaries will be untouched.


Immaterial. Centreville is overcapacity. Chantilly is too. That is a fact.


Quite material.

Where are your kids zoned?


The board makes the decisions. They’ve decided that overcrowded schools will be moved.

If you don’t like it, talk to your reps.


Of course the School Board makes the decisions, dimwit.

Now tell us where you’re zoned so we can assess why you have such an interest in kids getting moved out of Centreville and Chantilly.


You first, madam.


You’re the one so interested in moving kids out of those two schools. Tell us where you’re zoned.


Why are you so mad at me? I’m just conveying to you that centreville and chantilly are grossly overcapacity, and the fix is more than five years away.

Take it up with the school board.



Centreville is down 125 kids from last year and the last CIP had Centreville at 104% in 2028-29. It’s not going to be grossly overcrowded, and is slated to be expanded in any event.

So why are you worried about Centreville? Where do you have kids?


Centreville is currently 118% capacity with modulars and 127%(!!!) without. Projection without modulars is 113% in SY28-29. Their goal is to get rid of modulars.

Tell me how centreville isn’t grossly overcapacity?


You’re using last year’s numbers, when the enrollment is down over 125 kids this year. And who is to say the families wouldn’t prefer to stay at the school with a modular rather than be redistricted? FCPS has long treated modulars, although not trailers, the same as permanent classrooms when calculating capacity.


Even using this year’s number, centreville is at 119% without modulars. That’s just simple math.

Dunne has made it clear the goal is to eliminate modulars.

Those centreville kids need relief now.


Debatable when there’s an 8% decline in overcrowding in one year, there’s already a plan to expand Centreville, and Dunne doesn’t even represent the school. He can redistrict West Potomac and Mount Vernon if he’s so concerned about capacity imbalances.

If there are Centreville or Chantilly families looking for “relief,” they’d be identifying themselves as such and speaking up here. You’re just trying to construct a series of moves that you think would keep all of Great Falls at Langley, even when kids live at opposite ends of the county.


DP with zero skin in this game (my kids are zoned to Oakton even though we are physically closer to Chantilly and South Lakes and we're fine with that). I'm not sure how these are even part of the same conversation -- kids that are zoned to Centreville or Chantilly wouldn't be the same kids that are zoned to Langley, so why is this a competition? Are you concerned that kids from Chantilly will break rezoned to Herndon but you'd rather rezone kids from Langley to Herndon? I don't understand what this argument is about. And what about Westfield? Aren't kids that go to Westfield closer to Chantilly and Herndon, too?


They want kids from Centreville or Chantilly moved to Westfield and kids from Westfield moved into Herndon. Then, with more kids at Herndon, which now has hundreds of vacancies, they’ll argue kids in Great Falls who live much closer to Herndon than Langley should remain at Langley.

The concern about overcrowding at other schools is feigned. They only care about a “fix” is if it fills up a school they don’t want to attend.
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Anonymous wrote:So anyway, over under on how many centreville and Chantilly kids get moved to Westfield?


Isn't Chantilly considered a "neighborhood school?" So many families in the Greenbrier, Brookfield and Poplar Tree neighborhoods that are all walkers to the school. Would they really move kids who walk to school now miles away and have to move them by bus?


The school board is looking to alleviate overcrowding, and there is a real issue at centreville and chantilly. Sure it might be fixed six or seven years in the future, assuming the taxpayers approve a massive expansion, but that over browsing is an issue today. If they are serious about addressing under capacity or over capacity issues, they must do something at these two schools.



Where are you zoned? Some of the biggest advocates for “doing something” for Chantilly live elsewhere and have their own motives. They are fervently trying to game potential boundary changes so other kids get moved and their kids stay at their current schools.

If you are personally looking to move from Chantilly to Westfield, please let us know.


Misdirection. They just passed Policy 8130 and overcrowding is one of the big four factors.

Your whataboutism goes against the policy that they just passed this summer. I didn’t write the policy, the school board did. Talk to them.


You didn’t answer the question. Where are YOU zoned?


Crickets, of course.

They push boundary changes that affect other people’s kids with the hope their own boundaries will be untouched.


Immaterial. Centreville is overcapacity. Chantilly is too. That is a fact.


Quite material.

Where are your kids zoned?


The board makes the decisions. They’ve decided that overcrowded schools will be moved.

If you don’t like it, talk to your reps.


Of course the School Board makes the decisions, dimwit.

Now tell us where you’re zoned so we can assess why you have such an interest in kids getting moved out of Centreville and Chantilly.


You first, madam.


You’re the one so interested in moving kids out of those two schools. Tell us where you’re zoned.


Why are you so mad at me? I’m just conveying to you that centreville and chantilly are grossly overcapacity, and the fix is more than five years away.

Take it up with the school board.



Centreville is down 125 kids from last year and the last CIP had Centreville at 104% in 2028-29. It’s not going to be grossly overcrowded, and is slated to be expanded in any event.

So why are you worried about Centreville? Where do you have kids?


Centreville is currently 118% capacity with modulars and 127%(!!!) without. Projection without modulars is 113% in SY28-29. Their goal is to get rid of modulars.

Tell me how centreville isn’t grossly overcapacity?


You’re using last year’s numbers, when the enrollment is down over 125 kids this year. And who is to say the families wouldn’t prefer to stay at the school with a modular rather than be redistricted? FCPS has long treated modulars, although not trailers, the same as permanent classrooms when calculating capacity.


Even using this year’s number, centreville is at 119% without modulars. That’s just simple math.

Dunne has made it clear the goal is to eliminate modulars.

Those centreville kids need relief now.


Debatable when there’s an 8% decline in overcrowding in one year, there’s already a plan to expand Centreville, and Dunne doesn’t even represent the school. He can redistrict West Potomac and Mount Vernon if he’s so concerned about capacity imbalances.

If there are Centreville or Chantilly families looking for “relief,” they’d be identifying themselves as such and speaking up here. You’re just trying to construct a series of moves that you think would keep all of Great Falls at Langley, even when kids live at opposite ends of the county.


Why shouldn’t centreville and chantilly get relief now? Sure they’ll possibly have an expanded school many years from now, if taxpayers ultimately decide to fund the expansion, but that doesn’t alleviate the significant overcrowding concerns now at the schools.

The school board says that modulars are a safety concern. They are looking to get rid of them at every school -presumably your kids’ too.

What makes centreville so special that it should not be included in the county wide boundary changes?


If this is the case, why are they moving the Brookfield ES kids into them for the next 2.5 years? Remodeling yes, but safety first! Ditto for the entire sixth grade at Greenbrier East who are now in trailers.


Where else do you propose they put kids when their school is being remodeled?

That’s the point. An earlier PP was suggesting modulars never be used, which would mean in the event of renovations, the entire county would have to adjust its boundaries to absorb the seats until they were finished being built. That’s not going to happen.


Installing a modular is cheaper than building an addition but there are some significant sunk costs associated with the modulars currently installed or that will soon be needed. And teachers often prefer teaching in modulars since they can be quieter.

If you ask parents whether they’d prefer being redistricted or sticking with a modular many would prefer the latter. If FCPS tries to avoid modulars entirely, that will mean more boundary changes and will raise all the questions around grandfathering and transportation they keep side-stepping.
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Anonymous wrote:So anyway, over under on how many centreville and Chantilly kids get moved to Westfield?


Isn't Chantilly considered a "neighborhood school?" So many families in the Greenbrier, Brookfield and Poplar Tree neighborhoods that are all walkers to the school. Would they really move kids who walk to school now miles away and have to move them by bus?


The school board is looking to alleviate overcrowding, and there is a real issue at centreville and chantilly. Sure it might be fixed six or seven years in the future, assuming the taxpayers approve a massive expansion, but that over browsing is an issue today. If they are serious about addressing under capacity or over capacity issues, they must do something at these two schools.



Where are you zoned? Some of the biggest advocates for “doing something” for Chantilly live elsewhere and have their own motives. They are fervently trying to game potential boundary changes so other kids get moved and their kids stay at their current schools.

If you are personally looking to move from Chantilly to Westfield, please let us know.


Misdirection. They just passed Policy 8130 and overcrowding is one of the big four factors.

Your whataboutism goes against the policy that they just passed this summer. I didn’t write the policy, the school board did. Talk to them.


You didn’t answer the question. Where are YOU zoned?


Crickets, of course.

They push boundary changes that affect other people’s kids with the hope their own boundaries will be untouched.


Immaterial. Centreville is overcapacity. Chantilly is too. That is a fact.


Quite material.

Where are your kids zoned?


The board makes the decisions. They’ve decided that overcrowded schools will be moved.

If you don’t like it, talk to your reps.


Of course the School Board makes the decisions, dimwit.

Now tell us where you’re zoned so we can assess why you have such an interest in kids getting moved out of Centreville and Chantilly.


You first, madam.


You’re the one so interested in moving kids out of those two schools. Tell us where you’re zoned.


Why are you so mad at me? I’m just conveying to you that centreville and chantilly are grossly overcapacity, and the fix is more than five years away.

Take it up with the school board.



Centreville is down 125 kids from last year and the last CIP had Centreville at 104% in 2028-29. It’s not going to be grossly overcrowded, and is slated to be expanded in any event.

So why are you worried about Centreville? Where do you have kids?


Centreville is currently 118% capacity with modulars and 127%(!!!) without. Projection without modulars is 113% in SY28-29. Their goal is to get rid of modulars.

Tell me how centreville isn’t grossly overcapacity?


You’re using last year’s numbers, when the enrollment is down over 125 kids this year. And who is to say the families wouldn’t prefer to stay at the school with a modular rather than be redistricted? FCPS has long treated modulars, although not trailers, the same as permanent classrooms when calculating capacity.


Even using this year’s number, centreville is at 119% without modulars. That’s just simple math.

Dunne has made it clear the goal is to eliminate modulars.

Those centreville kids need relief now.


Debatable when there’s an 8% decline in overcrowding in one year, there’s already a plan to expand Centreville, and Dunne doesn’t even represent the school. He can redistrict West Potomac and Mount Vernon if he’s so concerned about capacity imbalances.

If there are Centreville or Chantilly families looking for “relief,” they’d be identifying themselves as such and speaking up here. You’re just trying to construct a series of moves that you think would keep all of Great Falls at Langley, even when kids live at opposite ends of the county.


Why shouldn’t centreville and chantilly get relief now? Sure they’ll possibly have an expanded school many years from now, if taxpayers ultimately decide to fund the expansion, but that doesn’t alleviate the significant overcrowding concerns now at the schools.

The school board says that modulars are a safety concern. They are looking to get rid of them at every school -presumably your kids’ too.

What makes centreville so special that it should not be included in the county wide boundary changes?


If this is the case, why are they moving the Brookfield ES kids into them for the next 2.5 years? Remodeling yes, but safety first! Ditto for the entire sixth grade at Greenbrier East who are now in trailers.


Where else do you propose they put kids when their school is being remodeled?

That’s the point. An earlier PP was suggesting modulars never be used, which would mean in the event of renovations, the entire county would have to adjust its boundaries to absorb the seats until they were finished being built. That’s not going to happen.


DP, I don't think the case being made is that modulars should "never" be used (e.g. in case of needed swing space during a renovation), I think it's that modulars shouldn't be used as a long-term capacity solution because of safety, equity/fairness, and the declining condition/durability of the county's current modulars. Use of modulars should aim to be "scaled back significantly" is probably more representative of the SB and FCPS and most people's feeling about them.
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Anonymous wrote:So anyway, over under on how many centreville and Chantilly kids get moved to Westfield?


Isn't Chantilly considered a "neighborhood school?" So many families in the Greenbrier, Brookfield and Poplar Tree neighborhoods that are all walkers to the school. Would they really move kids who walk to school now miles away and have to move them by bus?


The school board is looking to alleviate overcrowding, and there is a real issue at centreville and chantilly. Sure it might be fixed six or seven years in the future, assuming the taxpayers approve a massive expansion, but that over browsing is an issue today. If they are serious about addressing under capacity or over capacity issues, they must do something at these two schools.



Where are you zoned? Some of the biggest advocates for “doing something” for Chantilly live elsewhere and have their own motives. They are fervently trying to game potential boundary changes so other kids get moved and their kids stay at their current schools.

If you are personally looking to move from Chantilly to Westfield, please let us know.


Misdirection. They just passed Policy 8130 and overcrowding is one of the big four factors.

Your whataboutism goes against the policy that they just passed this summer. I didn’t write the policy, the school board did. Talk to them.


You didn’t answer the question. Where are YOU zoned?


Crickets, of course.

They push boundary changes that affect other people’s kids with the hope their own boundaries will be untouched.


Immaterial. Centreville is overcapacity. Chantilly is too. That is a fact.


Quite material.

Where are your kids zoned?


The board makes the decisions. They’ve decided that overcrowded schools will be moved.

If you don’t like it, talk to your reps.


Of course the School Board makes the decisions, dimwit.

Now tell us where you’re zoned so we can assess why you have such an interest in kids getting moved out of Centreville and Chantilly.


You first, madam.


You’re the one so interested in moving kids out of those two schools. Tell us where you’re zoned.


Why are you so mad at me? I’m just conveying to you that centreville and chantilly are grossly overcapacity, and the fix is more than five years away.

Take it up with the school board.



Centreville is down 125 kids from last year and the last CIP had Centreville at 104% in 2028-29. It’s not going to be grossly overcrowded, and is slated to be expanded in any event.

So why are you worried about Centreville? Where do you have kids?


Centreville is currently 118% capacity with modulars and 127%(!!!) without. Projection without modulars is 113% in SY28-29. Their goal is to get rid of modulars.

Tell me how centreville isn’t grossly overcapacity?


You’re using last year’s numbers, when the enrollment is down over 125 kids this year. And who is to say the families wouldn’t prefer to stay at the school with a modular rather than be redistricted? FCPS has long treated modulars, although not trailers, the same as permanent classrooms when calculating capacity.


Even using this year’s number, centreville is at 119% without modulars. That’s just simple math.

Dunne has made it clear the goal is to eliminate modulars.

Those centreville kids need relief now.


Debatable when there’s an 8% decline in overcrowding in one year, there’s already a plan to expand Centreville, and Dunne doesn’t even represent the school. He can redistrict West Potomac and Mount Vernon if he’s so concerned about capacity imbalances.

If there are Centreville or Chantilly families looking for “relief,” they’d be identifying themselves as such and speaking up here. You’re just trying to construct a series of moves that you think would keep all of Great Falls at Langley, even when kids live at opposite ends of the county.


Why shouldn’t centreville and chantilly get relief now? Sure they’ll possibly have an expanded school many years from now, if taxpayers ultimately decide to fund the expansion, but that doesn’t alleviate the significant overcrowding concerns now at the schools.

The school board says that modulars are a safety concern. They are looking to get rid of them at every school -presumably your kids’ too.

What makes centreville so special that it should not be included in the county wide boundary changes?


If this is the case, why are they moving the Brookfield ES kids into them for the next 2.5 years? Remodeling yes, but safety first! Ditto for the entire sixth grade at Greenbrier East who are now in trailers.


Where else do you propose they put kids when their school is being remodeled?

That’s the point. An earlier PP was suggesting modulars never be used, which would mean in the event of renovations, the entire county would have to adjust its boundaries to absorb the seats until they were finished being built. That’s not going to happen.


DP, I don't think the case being made is that modulars should "never" be used (e.g. in case of needed swing space during a renovation), I think it's that modulars shouldn't be used as a long-term capacity solution because of safety, equity/fairness, and the declining condition/durability of the county's current modulars. Use of modulars should aim to be "scaled back significantly" is probably more representative of the SB and FCPS and most people's feeling about them.


That sounds nice as an aspirational goal but modulars are needed in some instances given the poor long-term planning that has plagued FCPS for many years.

If they redistrict a ton of kids, they won’t be able to grandfather them because they won’t have enough buses to run multiple transportation routes while the changes are being phased in. Ask families whether they prefer a modular at their school or having their high school kids forced to switch high schools as rising sophomores or juniors.
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Anonymous wrote:So anyway, over under on how many centreville and Chantilly kids get moved to Westfield?


Isn't Chantilly considered a "neighborhood school?" So many families in the Greenbrier, Brookfield and Poplar Tree neighborhoods that are all walkers to the school. Would they really move kids who walk to school now miles away and have to move them by bus?


The school board is looking to alleviate overcrowding, and there is a real issue at centreville and chantilly. Sure it might be fixed six or seven years in the future, assuming the taxpayers approve a massive expansion, but that over browsing is an issue today. If they are serious about addressing under capacity or over capacity issues, they must do something at these two schools.



Where are you zoned? Some of the biggest advocates for “doing something” for Chantilly live elsewhere and have their own motives. They are fervently trying to game potential boundary changes so other kids get moved and their kids stay at their current schools.

If you are personally looking to move from Chantilly to Westfield, please let us know.


Misdirection. They just passed Policy 8130 and overcrowding is one of the big four factors.

Your whataboutism goes against the policy that they just passed this summer. I didn’t write the policy, the school board did. Talk to them.


You didn’t answer the question. Where are YOU zoned?


Crickets, of course.

They push boundary changes that affect other people’s kids with the hope their own boundaries will be untouched.


Immaterial. Centreville is overcapacity. Chantilly is too. That is a fact.


Quite material.

Where are your kids zoned?


The board makes the decisions. They’ve decided that overcrowded schools will be moved.

If you don’t like it, talk to your reps.


Of course the School Board makes the decisions, dimwit.

Now tell us where you’re zoned so we can assess why you have such an interest in kids getting moved out of Centreville and Chantilly.


You first, madam.


You’re the one so interested in moving kids out of those two schools. Tell us where you’re zoned.


Why are you so mad at me? I’m just conveying to you that centreville and chantilly are grossly overcapacity, and the fix is more than five years away.

Take it up with the school board.



Centreville is down 125 kids from last year and the last CIP had Centreville at 104% in 2028-29. It’s not going to be grossly overcrowded, and is slated to be expanded in any event.

So why are you worried about Centreville? Where do you have kids?


Centreville is currently 118% capacity with modulars and 127%(!!!) without. Projection without modulars is 113% in SY28-29. Their goal is to get rid of modulars.

Tell me how centreville isn’t grossly overcapacity?


You’re using last year’s numbers, when the enrollment is down over 125 kids this year. And who is to say the families wouldn’t prefer to stay at the school with a modular rather than be redistricted? FCPS has long treated modulars, although not trailers, the same as permanent classrooms when calculating capacity.


Even using this year’s number, centreville is at 119% without modulars. That’s just simple math.

Dunne has made it clear the goal is to eliminate modulars.

Those centreville kids need relief now.


Debatable when there’s an 8% decline in overcrowding in one year, there’s already a plan to expand Centreville, and Dunne doesn’t even represent the school. He can redistrict West Potomac and Mount Vernon if he’s so concerned about capacity imbalances.

If there are Centreville or Chantilly families looking for “relief,” they’d be identifying themselves as such and speaking up here. You’re just trying to construct a series of moves that you think would keep all of Great Falls at Langley, even when kids live at opposite ends of the county.


Why shouldn’t centreville and chantilly get relief now? Sure they’ll possibly have an expanded school many years from now, if taxpayers ultimately decide to fund the expansion, but that doesn’t alleviate the significant overcrowding concerns now at the schools.

The school board says that modulars are a safety concern. They are looking to get rid of them at every school -presumably your kids’ too.

What makes centreville so special that it should not be included in the county wide boundary changes?


If this is the case, why are they moving the Brookfield ES kids into them for the next 2.5 years? Remodeling yes, but safety first! Ditto for the entire sixth grade at Greenbrier East who are now in trailers.


Where else do you propose they put kids when their school is being remodeled?

That’s the point. An earlier PP was suggesting modulars never be used, which would mean in the event of renovations, the entire county would have to adjust its boundaries to absorb the seats until they were finished being built. That’s not going to happen.


DP, I don't think the case being made is that modulars should "never" be used (e.g. in case of needed swing space during a renovation), I think it's that modulars shouldn't be used as a long-term capacity solution because of safety, equity/fairness, and the declining condition/durability of the county's current modulars. Use of modulars should aim to be "scaled back significantly" is probably more representative of the SB and FCPS and most people's feeling about them.

I agree with this. Modulars are the immediate solution with the long term solution being expansion or boundary adjustment (or in other cases to wait it out if it’s an abnormal growth trend.) The high schools with modulars are:

- McLean, which will likely be alleviated by moving attendance islands.
- Marshall, which will likely be alleviated by sending its western boundaries to Madison.
- Annandale, which may no longer need modulars due to the downward trend in enrollment.
- Centreville, which is being expanded.
- Robinson, which is projected to grow more dependent on its modular, but could benefit from Centreville’s expansion (ie all of Union Mill stays at Centreville instead of being a split feeder)
- Chantilly, which is the most challenging case, as it already has fairly tight boundaries, and is difficult to expand due to its footprint. This would be the only instance of having to choose between bussing kids to further away high schools or keeping them in modulars, I think. (Again, this is only with regards to modulars.)
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It costs somewhere around $2.5 million to install a modular at a high school. How many millions is FCPS going to eat because they’ve now decided to switch course and no longer treat modulars as the equivalent of other classroom space?

And how much higher will the transportation costs be with a bunch of boundary changes, assuming that at least rising seniors are grandfathered?
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Anonymous wrote:It costs somewhere around $2.5 million to install a modular at a high school. How many millions is FCPS going to eat because they’ve now decided to switch course and no longer treat modulars as the equivalent of other classroom space?

And how much higher will the transportation costs be with a bunch of boundary changes, assuming that at least rising seniors are grandfathered?


It’s probably worth raising these questions to your school board rep. People on here are just describing what board members have said.
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Anonymous wrote:It costs somewhere around $2.5 million to install a modular at a high school. How many millions is FCPS going to eat because they’ve now decided to switch course and no longer treat modulars as the equivalent of other classroom space?

And how much higher will the transportation costs be with a bunch of boundary changes, assuming that at least rising seniors are grandfathered?


It’s probably worth raising these questions to your school board rep. People on here are just describing what board members have said.


The 10:25 post includes a lot of predictions that go well beyond what SB members have said, no?

Reid has also said most of the changes will relate to ES but the prior post also focuses on HS, not ES.
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Anonymous wrote:So anyway, over under on how many centreville and Chantilly kids get moved to Westfield?


Isn't Chantilly considered a "neighborhood school?" So many families in the Greenbrier, Brookfield and Poplar Tree neighborhoods that are all walkers to the school. Would they really move kids who walk to school now miles away and have to move them by bus?


The school board is looking to alleviate overcrowding, and there is a real issue at centreville and chantilly. Sure it might be fixed six or seven years in the future, assuming the taxpayers approve a massive expansion, but that over browsing is an issue today. If they are serious about addressing under capacity or over capacity issues, they must do something at these two schools.



Where are you zoned? Some of the biggest advocates for “doing something” for Chantilly live elsewhere and have their own motives. They are fervently trying to game potential boundary changes so other kids get moved and their kids stay at their current schools.

If you are personally looking to move from Chantilly to Westfield, please let us know.


Misdirection. They just passed Policy 8130 and overcrowding is one of the big four factors.

Your whataboutism goes against the policy that they just passed this summer. I didn’t write the policy, the school board did. Talk to them.


You didn’t answer the question. Where are YOU zoned?


Crickets, of course.

They push boundary changes that affect other people’s kids with the hope their own boundaries will be untouched.


Immaterial. Centreville is overcapacity. Chantilly is too. That is a fact.


Quite material.

Where are your kids zoned?


The board makes the decisions. They’ve decided that overcrowded schools will be moved.

If you don’t like it, talk to your reps.


Of course the School Board makes the decisions, dimwit.

Now tell us where you’re zoned so we can assess why you have such an interest in kids getting moved out of Centreville and Chantilly.


You first, madam.


You’re the one so interested in moving kids out of those two schools. Tell us where you’re zoned.


Why are you so mad at me? I’m just conveying to you that centreville and chantilly are grossly overcapacity, and the fix is more than five years away.

Take it up with the school board.



Centreville is down 125 kids from last year and the last CIP had Centreville at 104% in 2028-29. It’s not going to be grossly overcrowded, and is slated to be expanded in any event.

So why are you worried about Centreville? Where do you have kids?


Centreville is currently 118% capacity with modulars and 127%(!!!) without. Projection without modulars is 113% in SY28-29. Their goal is to get rid of modulars.

Tell me how centreville isn’t grossly overcapacity?


You’re using last year’s numbers, when the enrollment is down over 125 kids this year. And who is to say the families wouldn’t prefer to stay at the school with a modular rather than be redistricted? FCPS has long treated modulars, although not trailers, the same as permanent classrooms when calculating capacity.


Even using this year’s number, centreville is at 119% without modulars. That’s just simple math.

Dunne has made it clear the goal is to eliminate modulars.

Those centreville kids need relief now.


Debatable when there’s an 8% decline in overcrowding in one year, there’s already a plan to expand Centreville, and Dunne doesn’t even represent the school. He can redistrict West Potomac and Mount Vernon if he’s so concerned about capacity imbalances.

If there are Centreville or Chantilly families looking for “relief,” they’d be identifying themselves as such and speaking up here. You’re just trying to construct a series of moves that you think would keep all of Great Falls at Langley, even when kids live at opposite ends of the county.


Why shouldn’t centreville and chantilly get relief now? Sure they’ll possibly have an expanded school many years from now, if taxpayers ultimately decide to fund the expansion, but that doesn’t alleviate the significant overcrowding concerns now at the schools.

The school board says that modulars are a safety concern. They are looking to get rid of them at every school -presumably your kids’ too.

What makes centreville so special that it should not be included in the county wide boundary changes?


If this is the case, why are they moving the Brookfield ES kids into them for the next 2.5 years? Remodeling yes, but safety first! Ditto for the entire sixth grade at Greenbrier East who are now in trailers.


Where else do you propose they put kids when their school is being remodeled?

That’s the point. An earlier PP was suggesting modulars never be used, which would mean in the event of renovations, the entire county would have to adjust its boundaries to absorb the seats until they were finished being built. That’s not going to happen.


DP, I don't think the case being made is that modulars should "never" be used (e.g. in case of needed swing space during a renovation), I think it's that modulars shouldn't be used as a long-term capacity solution because of safety, equity/fairness, and the declining condition/durability of the county's current modulars. Use of modulars should aim to be "scaled back significantly" is probably more representative of the SB and FCPS and most people's feeling about them.

I agree with this. Modulars are the immediate solution with the long term solution being expansion or boundary adjustment (or in other cases to wait it out if it’s an abnormal growth trend.) The high schools with modulars are:

- McLean, which will likely be alleviated by moving attendance islands.
- Marshall, which will likely be alleviated by sending its western boundaries to Madison.
- Annandale, which may no longer need modulars due to the downward trend in enrollment.
- Centreville, which is being expanded.
- Robinson, which is projected to grow more dependent on its modular, but could benefit from Centreville’s expansion (ie all of Union Mill stays at Centreville instead of being a split feeder)
- Chantilly, which is the most challenging case, as it already has fairly tight boundaries, and is difficult to expand due to its footprint. This would be the only instance of having to choose between bussing kids to further away high schools or keeping them in modulars, I think. (Again, this is only with regards to modulars.)


Northern part of chantilly could go to Westfield or south lakes, southern part could go to centreville.

Centreville expansion is years away, and hasn’t even been fully approved by taxpayers.

Options abound.
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Anonymous wrote:It costs somewhere around $2.5 million to install a modular at a high school. How many millions is FCPS going to eat because they’ve now decided to switch course and no longer treat modulars as the equivalent of other classroom space?

And how much higher will the transportation costs be with a bunch of boundary changes, assuming that at least rising seniors are grandfathered?


It’s probably worth raising these questions to your school board rep. People on here are just describing what board members have said.


The 10:25 post includes a lot of predictions that go well beyond what SB members have said, no?

Reid has also said most of the changes will relate to ES but the prior post also focuses on HS, not ES.


When she says that the moves will focus on the elementary schools, I hear that as maybe changing those es borders, which will then feed those kids up to a different feeder.

They already pushed the consultant through with a no bid contract, I would not rest easy. They are going for broke here. Don’t believe me? Go read Dunne’s newsletters.
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Anonymous wrote:It costs somewhere around $2.5 million to install a modular at a high school. How many millions is FCPS going to eat because they’ve now decided to switch course and no longer treat modulars as the equivalent of other classroom space?

And how much higher will the transportation costs be with a bunch of boundary changes, assuming that at least rising seniors are grandfathered?


It’s probably worth raising these questions to your school board rep. People on here are just describing what board members have said.


The 10:25 post includes a lot of predictions that go well beyond what SB members have said, no?

Reid has also said most of the changes will relate to ES but the prior post also focuses on HS, not ES.

Reid said most of the changes would be at the ES level, but they can’t fix capacity issues at the high school level without making some changes. The McLean example removes two attendance islands (school board priority) and two split feeders (school board priority.) The Marshall example impacts the Westbriar attendance island whether it’s absorbed by the South Lakes pyramid or Madison (school board priority) and Wolf Trap which is a split feeder. The Robinson/Centreville example is another example of a split feeder that sends half its students to a further away high school (school board priority.)
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