7/24/23 Trial of Usman Shahid -- driver who killed two Oakton teens

[Anonymous]

I asked this a while back but will Usman Shahid stay in the Fairfax County Jail long term? I tried to search for an answer. Where do convicts spend their years’ long sentences?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I asked this a while back but will Usman Shahid stay in the Fairfax County Jail long term? I tried to search for an answer. Where do convicts spend their years’ long sentences?

This was answered pages ago. He stays in FFX Jail until a space is open in state prison if his sentence is over 12 months.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jury went home an hour ago and will return tomorrow.

https://www.dcnewsnow.com/news/local-news/virginia/fairfax-county/tearful-testimony-ahead-of-sentencing-for-driver-in-crash-that-killed-oakton-high-school-students/

From the same source:
Prosecutors told jurors that they had spoken with the victims’ families, who “all agree he doesn’t need to be sentenced to the max” and recommended a sentence that’s “enough time to be a measurement of the crime he committed, but not to match the pain because that sentence would be infinite.”

Criminal trials don't help the victims as much as the community. If I were them I'd act the same way not caring too much as long as the person wasn't a threat to me and caring more about the civil trial.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From that link:

'Shahid took the stand last, telling the courtroom tearfully that he was deeply sorry for his actions and the pain he caused the victims.

"He said he was in “full regret with the actions he’s done.”"

Sure.
Crocodile tears that say " I could have cared less about the girls at the time, but I don't want to go to jail".
Not working for him.

I doubt it. He is a young kid with life in turmoil before he even graduated high school and probably has mental trauma from the accident and aftermath plus fear of future, likely his tears were very natural.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:10 years is the max per charge? So 20 years total? Or 5 years per count? Maximum punishment should be necessary. Why do we not have mandatory minimums? This POS deserves to rot.

In Virginia, involuntary manslaughter is a Class 5 felony that can result in maximum of 10 years, plus a fine of up to $2,500. However, a judge may reduce the sentence to less than one year in jail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Men who harm young girls do not fare well in prison.

What nonsense? He was an inexperienced high school teen driver who tragically hit pedestrians in a crash, not a criminal rapist or pedo harming you g girls. This is insane.

[Anonymous]

This is a county court, not the feds. He will go to some low level DOC camp if anything, not some hard prison.

He took the stand today and had an opportunity to apologize to the family but he didn't. He made a very general insincere apology, he called his actions "irresponsible". He seemed to have been reading his statement and kept stumbling on words. Definitely wasn't coming from the heart!

Meanwhile 2 of his friends actually shed tears while making their statements. He was dry eyed the whole time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From that link:

'Shahid took the stand last, telling the courtroom tearfully that he was deeply sorry for his actions and the pain he caused the victims.

"He said he was in “full regret with the actions he’s done.”"

Sure.
Crocodile tears that say " I could have cared less about the girls at the time, but I don't want to go to jail".
Not working for him.

I doubt it. He is a young kid with life in turmoil before he even graduated high school and probably has mental trauma from the accident and aftermath plus fear of future, likely his tears were very natural.

Did he ever get his license and has he been driving at VT?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From that link:

'Shahid took the stand last, telling the courtroom tearfully that he was deeply sorry for his actions and the pain he caused the victims.

"He said he was in “full regret with the actions he’s done.”"

Sure.
Crocodile tears that say " I could have cared less about the girls at the time, but I don't want to go to jail".
Not working for him.

I doubt it. He is a young kid with life in turmoil before he even graduated high school and probably has mental trauma from the accident and aftermath plus fear of future, likely his tears were very natural.

+1 And this is why parents, teachers, and faith leaders should guide kids and teens towards making good choices, not indulge them with too many material things, encourage a strong work ethic (school and/or job), and realize that poor choices, even accidental ones, can have life- changing consequences. We do teens no favors in letting them think they shouldn't face consequences and punishment for their actions, criminal or otherwise. (Same goes for the drunk girl who sped and killed the bride in Florida, the Raiders football player who sped into the young woman and her dog in Nevada, etc)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a county court, not the feds. He will go to some low level DOC camp if anything, not some hard prison.

He took the stand today and had an opportunity to apologize to the family but he didn't. He made a very general insincere apology, he called his actions "irresponsible". He seemed to have been reading his statement and kept stumbling on words. Definitely wasn't coming from the heart!

Meanwhile 2 of his friends actually shed tears while making their statements. He was dry eyed the whole time.

You have it backwards. The Feds have “camps” for their white collar crimes. Like where Madoff is. Shahid was convicted of a state crime and will go to a VA prison. Unless he commits additional infractions while in jail or prison he will likely be in a minimum security facility but not as nice as where Madoff is.

[Anonymous]

His "sorry for my actions" is not an admission of guilt. He's leaving that door open for appeal. His atty prepared a carefully worded statement that sounds apologetic at first glance, but still leaves room for Shahid to contest the judge's rulings, undermining the validity of the verdict.

He's sorry for his actions, but really it was the other guy's fault (that's what he means).

Was he wearing a sweater and a light blue shirt? Anyone who was there?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If he had just taken the plea deal he would have had a shorter sentence and back on with his life soon after that. It may still not be that long but this would likely have been the least painful way. I guess we will see how effective the jury trial was for the sentencing and civil trial. Doesn't seem like the sentencing will be today so no one can tell yet.

What deal was offered??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If he had just taken the plea deal he would have had a shorter sentence and back on with his life soon after that. It may still not be that long but this would likely have been the least painful way. I guess we will see how effective the jury trial was for the sentencing and civil trial. Doesn't seem like the sentencing will be today so no one can tell yet.

What deal was offered??

Read up on court cases and plea deals vs trials if you are interested

[Anonymous]

He was offered 5 years and with a plea deal you only do 65 percent of the time so he would of done 2 years and a month good behavior 2 years tops

[Anonymous]

We also can’t forget they can definitely file for a appeal