Consolidated VA Elections Thread

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Anonymous wrote:I am surprised people think that if Youngkin is elected Virginia will suddenly turn into Texas if Roe v Wade is overturned and outlaw abortion. The average Virginian is pretty moderate (socially liberal leaning and fiscally conservative leaning). They might be anti-abortion for their own choices but they’re not ones to tell others what to do or impose their personal beliefs on someone else and are pro-choice for others.

I do not see the majority of Virginians finding pro-life measures and outlawing abortion to be a priority and in fact most will find it too overreaching and indecent. They will not support this in the numbers you suggest, not at all.

I have lived in Virginia all my life all over the commonwealth. Virginians aren’t known to be extreme on either end. So this knee jerk reaction that Virginians are chomping at the bit and just waiting for Youngkin to get elected so abortion can be banned is offensive. First there would have to be a law on his desk to sign. I don’t think it will get to that point, not anytime soon.

So stop painting Virginians as extreme right pro life marching single issue voter crazy trains. We’re not.


Youngkin's supporters are extreme. The book banning, 'stolen election' ranting, support of the insurrection, etc. are all perfect examples of this.

We know that Youngkin wants to criminalize abortion because of his own public statements on the issue.


PP here, so your reply is a perfect example. You are generalizing all Youngkin voters as extreme based on what? Because Youngkin said he was concerned about election integrity, because SOME supporters were concerned about sexually explicit books being taught in high school, and I’m not sure which supporters said they were in support of the insurrection. Did Youngkin ever say he was in support of the insurrection? If so I’d honestly love to see a citation/link so I can educate myself.

Your post clearly shows you don’t know Virginia state politics or average Virginians. We’re not having a bonfire to burn books. We’re not chaining ourselves together blocking the entrance to Planned Parenthood. I watched in horror on January 6, I even turned someone in to the FBI. The average Virginian doesn’t take kindly to people making false generalizations or stereotypes about us, especially ones that are so way off base. And it will have the opposite effect as intended like that LP shenanigans on Friday. It will only make us like you less, when we prefer just to play well with others and get along.


DP. I don't think you are an extremist and I don't think my neighbors are extremists. I think Sears is an extremist and I think Youngkin is courting extremists. Will he continue to court them after he's elected? Probably.



So yes, I'm voting for abortion in this election. Because Republicans (I used to be one) have made this election about abortion. I am also very concerned about education. But first, abortion.


No -YOU have made this election about abortion. I have heard little about the topic from either candidate


Very true. I used to be a one-issue voter - I'm pro-choice and that was all I cared about. No longer. My number one issue right now is education and the dumbing down of our public schools.


So we agree that Youngkin is the best choice for education!


Absolutely.
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Anonymous wrote:They are both slimy rich a-holes who got ahead by screwing people over. There is no good pick. It’s the lesser of two evils and who will do less damage.


Sorry to disappoint, but Youngkin's not an ahole at all. He hasn't screwed anyone over, nor has he ever been investigated for anything. McAuliffe however, has a history of doing both.


I take it you’re not familiar with how private equity works. Screwing people over is the foundation of the industry.


McAuliffe invested a lot of money in private equity funds; he just wasn’t trustworthy enough to manage one. Not surprising, since he would have had to disclose that he had been under investigation by the SEC for visa fraud at GreenTech Automotive.

Shameful
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Anonymous wrote:Jamaican born Republican Winsome Sears is on the Mark Levin Show right now. She's incredible!


+1
Really like her.


Sure, let’s pass out guns in schools. That will keep kids safe.
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Anonymous wrote:Jamaican born Republican Winsome Sears is on the Mark Levin Show right now. She's incredible!


+1
Really like her.


Sure, let’s pass out guns in schools. That will keep kids safe.


Get a grip.
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Anonymous wrote:The GOP is on the offense against:
- democracy / voting rights
- women’s rights
- LGBTQ+
- truth/facts

Any one of those is a deal breaker for me.

We don’t want any of that in VA.


Please elaborate. How are are democracy/voting rights in danger? How are women's rights in danger? How are LGBTQ+ rights in danger? What truth/facts are you disputing? We'll wait.


Well, I’ve had a few beers so hopefully this is coherent.

1) Jan 6th was <10 months ago and the GOP continues to push The Big Lie. They have been pushing restrictions on voters and election officials.
https://www.theregreview.org/2021/09/21/spencer-the-false-flag-of-political-accountability-in-election-reform/

How long did it take Youngkin to say Biden won the election? Months.

2) The GOP - and Youngkin - want to restrict abortions. For example, Y said that he would support a ban of abortions past 20 weeks. Shocking that he even said that given that he’s hiding his true intentions.
“I just want Virginians to know I will stand for life,” he added, saying “these are not squishy issues. These are absolute issues.”

“When I’m governor and I have a majority in the House, we can start going on offense. But as a campaign topic, sadly, that in fact won’t win my independent votes that I have to get.

3) The GOP has been fighting transgender rights. Republicans are attempting to connect the rape/assault in LoCo to transgender bathrooms. Youngkin has implied this as well. Youngkin has also said he doesn’t support marriage equality.

4) Youngkin was pushing “election integrity” as a top priority, supporting Trump’s Big Lie. Again, it took him months to admit Biden won. He’s pushing other GOP lies about CRT, etc:
“So on day one, we are going to ban teaching critical race theory in our schools”

I reject any candidate who hasn’t denounced the current GOP crazy, let alone embrace it as Youngkin has.
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Anonymous wrote:^^ nice attempt at deflection. -DP


Glenn Youngkin’s opposition to abortion rights isn’t a “deflection,” it’s a major issue in this election.


PP made claims about the GOP he/she/they couldn’t back up. You chose to deflect from the BS claim by making another BS claim that you can’t back up either. Please provide citation that Youngkin will ban abortions. Thanks!
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Anonymous wrote:Jamaican born Republican Winsome Sears is on the Mark Levin Show right now. She's incredible!


+1
Really like her.


Because she said she’d support a heartbeat ban on abortion?
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Anonymous wrote:I am surprised people think that if Youngkin is elected Virginia will suddenly turn into Texas if Roe v Wade is overturned and outlaw abortion. The average Virginian is pretty moderate (socially liberal leaning and fiscally conservative leaning). They might be anti-abortion for their own choices but they’re not ones to tell others what to do or impose their personal beliefs on someone else and are pro-choice for others.

I do not see the majority of Virginians finding pro-life measures and outlawing abortion to be a priority and in fact most will find it too overreaching and indecent. They will not support this in the numbers you suggest, not at all.

I have lived in Virginia all my life all over the commonwealth. Virginians aren’t known to be extreme on either end. So this knee jerk reaction that Virginians are chomping at the bit and just waiting for Youngkin to get elected so abortion can be banned is offensive. First there would have to be a law on his desk to sign. I don’t think it will get to that point, not anytime soon.

So stop painting Virginians as extreme right pro life marching single issue voter crazy trains. We’re not.


Are you kidding? We are talking about the VA GOP legislators here. From 2012-2020, the VA Republicans forced women to get a vaginal probe and 24-hr waiting period before getting an abortion. This was happening up until LAST YEAR when the Ds took over.

And the 2021 Rs are even crazier than the 2012 Rs. Of course they will try to pull that Texas crap here.



Link to the bolded?


https://www.virginiamercury.com/2020/01/29/virginia-lawmakers-vote-to-repeal-mandatory-ultrasound-waiting-period-for-abortion/


Nope, nothing in there about a vaginal probe requirement from 2012-2020. Wrong.


I posted a clarification *almost immediately* after I posted that. And a few times since.

Try to keep up.
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Anonymous wrote:^^ nice attempt at deflection. -DP


Glenn Youngkin’s opposition to abortion rights isn’t a “deflection,” it’s a major issue in this election.


PP made claims about the GOP he/she/they couldn’t back up. You chose to deflect from the BS claim by making another BS claim that you can’t back up either. Please provide citation that Youngkin will ban abortions. Thanks!

You can listen to Youngkin’s own words.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^ nice attempt at deflection. -DP


Glenn Youngkin’s opposition to abortion rights isn’t a “deflection,” it’s a major issue in this election.


PP made claims about the GOP he/she/they couldn’t back up. You chose to deflect from the BS claim by making another BS claim that you can’t back up either. Please provide citation that Youngkin will ban abortions. Thanks!

You can listen to Youngkin’s own words.



I don’t hear him saying he will ban all abortions?
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Anonymous wrote:Jamaican born Republican Winsome Sears is on the Mark Levin Show right now. She's incredible!


+1
Really like her.


Because she said she’d support a heartbeat ban on abortion?


https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/570859-virginia-gop-lieutenant-governor-nominee-says-she-would-support-heartbeat

Virginia Republican lieutenant gubernatorial nominee Winsome Sears said on Friday that she would support heartbeat abortion legislation amid the fallout over a Texas law that bans abortion as early as six weeks into a pregnancy.

"Well, I can tell you that would be me, that I would support [it]," Sears told Newsmax on Friday.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jamaican born Republican Winsome Sears is on the Mark Levin Show right now. She's incredible!


+1
Really like her.


Because she said she’d support a heartbeat ban on abortion?


https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/570859-virginia-gop-lieutenant-governor-nominee-says-she-would-support-heartbeat

Virginia Republican lieutenant gubernatorial nominee Winsome Sears said on Friday that she would support heartbeat abortion legislation amid the fallout over a Texas law that bans abortion as early as six weeks into a pregnancy.

"Well, I can tell you that would be me, that I would support [it]," Sears told Newsmax on Friday.


Lieutenant Governors don’t make decisions/laws like this on their own. Get a clue.
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Anonymous wrote:Terry is a nut job.


Is that really the best you can do? How sad.



Ok Terry is a grifter with sleazy business practices.


Youngkin is a private equity sleaze bag who got rich by dismantling businesses and laying off working class people.



I can't wait to see the links I just know you're going to provide!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jamaican born Republican Winsome Sears is on the Mark Levin Show right now. She's incredible!


+1
Really like her.


Because she said she’d support a heartbeat ban on abortion?


https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/570859-virginia-gop-lieutenant-governor-nominee-says-she-would-support-heartbeat

Virginia Republican lieutenant gubernatorial nominee Winsome Sears said on Friday that she would support heartbeat abortion legislation amid the fallout over a Texas law that bans abortion as early as six weeks into a pregnancy.

"Well, I can tell you that would be me, that I would support [it]," Sears told Newsmax on Friday.


Lieutenant Governors don’t make decisions/laws like this on their own. Get a clue.


LG has the tie-breaking vote in the senate when needed. That could be very significant over the next couple of years, including on abortion.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Terry is a nut job.


Is that really the best you can do? How sad.



Ok Terry is a grifter with sleazy business practices.


Youngkin is a private equity sleaze bag who got rich by dismantling businesses and laying off working class people.



I can't wait to see the links I just know you're going to provide!


Don’t you know what private equity is?
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