Trapped/Re-aging Families, How are you having the conversation?

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone going to mention the first two tiers of boys college recruiting are MLS Club academies then MLS Next teams
Both are BY and school grades are not on anyone's radar

Its because with BY "trapped" players are playing up not down.

Playing up means playing in an older age group
Trapped players today hardly ever play up since they are the youngest in their age group

Yeah, for the vast majority of fall/q4 players they will actually be playing with kids in their own grade for once in their playing careers. The focus on a tiny number of August kids who might play with kids a grade lower than them is purely caused by on one Mr Delusional August Guy.

It will be interesting to see how these players do and how they’ll adapt. Many will be put into leadership positions they don’t have prior experience with having always been the youngest.

My Q4 player on a MLS Next team has one kid from his school on his team and they're in different grades

Why people keeping talking about being friends in the same grade when the players go to all different schools is ludicrously silly

I don't mean playing with kids from their school, I mean Q4s getting to play with kids their age or younger instead of being the youngest... Everyone knows at these big clubs most of the kids are coming from different schools. I don't see anyone talking about playing with friends from school here (at least within the last 20 or so pages). Though, it is US Soccer's theory that, for the very small percentage that can/will do that, it will keep them invested in soccer longer than the BY cohorts.

It's for the ulittles - for them to all be on grade.

It also settles 80% of trapped player issues.

It was NOT done to fix RAE, as it does not, just shifts the window.

This was discussed unto death in the original 1000 page opus thread. You may not agree with it, but it is a done deal.

100% reguarding "on grade" exactly what people have been saying for over a year.

Now we have crazy crazytown trying to change SY (School Year) to SY (Seasonal Year) so after they get what they want (changing from BY to SY) they can move the goalposts again trying to say grade in school isnt important. When in reality is is very important and what was used to justify the change from BY to SY (school year) in the first place.

So dishonest.

School years are dates set by state/school district. So soccer had to create a compromise school year at the national level. Hence 8/1 to 7/31. Always been dates, this grades thing is just someone constantly throwing a dead cat on the table to take the oxygen out of the room.

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You tell your kid about the new age cutoff. Kids with serious soccer futures for college or Pro will just say, OK

If your kid has a meltdown, save as much money and time as you can and go Rec

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone going to mention the first two tiers of boys college recruiting are MLS Club academies then MLS Next teams
Both are BY and school grades are not on anyone's radar

Its because with BY "trapped" players are playing up not down.

Playing up means playing in an older age group
Trapped players today hardly ever play up since they are the youngest in their age group

Yeah, for the vast majority of fall/q4 players they will actually be playing with kids in their own grade for once in their playing careers. The focus on a tiny number of August kids who might play with kids a grade lower than them is purely caused by on one Mr Delusional August Guy.

It will be interesting to see how these players do and how they’ll adapt. Many will be put into leadership positions they don’t have prior experience with having always been the youngest.

My Q4 player on a MLS Next team has one kid from his school on his team and they're in different grades

Why people keeping talking about being friends in the same grade when the players go to all different schools is ludicrously silly

I don't mean playing with kids from their school, I mean Q4s getting to play with kids their age or younger instead of being the youngest... Everyone knows at these big clubs most of the kids are coming from different schools. I don't see anyone talking about playing with friends from school here (at least within the last 20 or so pages). Though, it is US Soccer's theory that, for the very small percentage that can/will do that, it will keep them invested in soccer longer than the BY cohorts.

It's for the ulittles - for them to all be on grade.

It also settles 80% of trapped player issues.

It was NOT done to fix RAE, as it does not, just shifts the window.

This was discussed unto death in the original 1000 page opus thread. You may not agree with it, but it is a done deal.

100% reguarding "on grade" exactly what people have been saying for over a year.

Now we have crazy crazytown trying to change SY (School Year) to SY (Seasonal Year) so after they get what they want (changing from BY to SY) they can move the goalposts again trying to say grade in school isnt important. When in reality is is very important and what was used to justify the change from BY to SY (school year) in the first place.

So dishonest.

School years are dates set by state/school district. So soccer had to create a compromise school year at the national level. Hence 8/1 to 7/31. Always been dates, this grades thing is just someone constantly throwing a dead cat on the table to take the oxygen out of the room.

What is your agenda? You sit on this thread all day long

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone going to mention the first two tiers of boys college recruiting are MLS Club academies then MLS Next teams
Both are BY and school grades are not on anyone's radar

Its because with BY "trapped" players are playing up not down.

Playing up means playing in an older age group
Trapped players today hardly ever play up since they are the youngest in their age group

Yeah, for the vast majority of fall/q4 players they will actually be playing with kids in their own grade for once in their playing careers. The focus on a tiny number of August kids who might play with kids a grade lower than them is purely caused by on one Mr Delusional August Guy.

It will be interesting to see how these players do and how they’ll adapt. Many will be put into leadership positions they don’t have prior experience with having always been the youngest.

My Q4 player on a MLS Next team has one kid from his school on his team and they're in different grades

Why people keeping talking about being friends in the same grade when the players go to all different schools is ludicrously silly

I don't mean playing with kids from their school, I mean Q4s getting to play with kids their age or younger instead of being the youngest... Everyone knows at these big clubs most of the kids are coming from different schools. I don't see anyone talking about playing with friends from school here (at least within the last 20 or so pages). Though, it is US Soccer's theory that, for the very small percentage that can/will do that, it will keep them invested in soccer longer than the BY cohorts.

It's for the ulittles - for them to all be on grade.

It also settles 80% of trapped player issues.

It was NOT done to fix RAE, as it does not, just shifts the window.

This was discussed unto death in the original 1000 page opus thread. You may not agree with it, but it is a done deal.

100% reguarding "on grade" exactly what people have been saying for over a year.

Now we have crazy crazytown trying to change SY (School Year) to SY (Seasonal Year) so after they get what they want (changing from BY to SY) they can move the goalposts again trying to say grade in school isnt important. When in reality is is very important and what was used to justify the change from BY to SY (school year) in the first place.

So dishonest.

School years are dates set by state/school district. So soccer had to create a compromise school year at the national level. Hence 8/1 to 7/31. Always been dates, this grades thing is just someone constantly throwing a dead cat on the table to take the oxygen out of the room.

What is your agenda? You sit on this thread all day long

Yeah, you figured that guy out! He has the evil agenda of providing accurate and correct information on an online discussion board. Dun dun dun! You cracked the case Sherlock!

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone going to mention the first two tiers of boys college recruiting are MLS Club academies then MLS Next teams
Both are BY and school grades are not on anyone's radar

Its because with BY "trapped" players are playing up not down.

Playing up means playing in an older age group
Trapped players today hardly ever play up since they are the youngest in their age group

Yeah, for the vast majority of fall/q4 players they will actually be playing with kids in their own grade for once in their playing careers. The focus on a tiny number of August kids who might play with kids a grade lower than them is purely caused by on one Mr Delusional August Guy.

It will be interesting to see how these players do and how they’ll adapt. Many will be put into leadership positions they don’t have prior experience with having always been the youngest.

My Q4 player on a MLS Next team has one kid from his school on his team and they're in different grades

Why people keeping talking about being friends in the same grade when the players go to all different schools is ludicrously silly

I don't mean playing with kids from their school, I mean Q4s getting to play with kids their age or younger instead of being the youngest... Everyone knows at these big clubs most of the kids are coming from different schools. I don't see anyone talking about playing with friends from school here (at least within the last 20 or so pages). Though, it is US Soccer's theory that, for the very small percentage that can/will do that, it will keep them invested in soccer longer than the BY cohorts.

It's for the ulittles - for them to all be on grade.

It also settles 80% of trapped player issues.

It was NOT done to fix RAE, as it does not, just shifts the window.

This was discussed unto death in the original 1000 page opus thread. You may not agree with it, but it is a done deal.

100% reguarding "on grade" exactly what people have been saying for over a year.

Now we have crazy crazytown trying to change SY (School Year) to SY (Seasonal Year) so after they get what they want (changing from BY to SY) they can move the goalposts again trying to say grade in school isnt important. When in reality is is very important and what was used to justify the change from BY to SY (school year) in the first place.

So dishonest.

School years are dates set by state/school district. So soccer had to create a compromise school year at the national level. Hence 8/1 to 7/31. Always been dates, this grades thing is just someone constantly throwing a dead cat on the table to take the oxygen out of the room.

What is your agenda? You sit on this thread all day long

Yeah, you figured that guy out! He has the evil agenda of providing accurate and correct information on an online discussion board. Dun dun dun! You cracked the case Sherlock!

You sound like you have issues.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone going to mention the first two tiers of boys college recruiting are MLS Club academies then MLS Next teams
Both are BY and school grades are not on anyone's radar

Its because with BY "trapped" players are playing up not down.

Playing up means playing in an older age group
Trapped players today hardly ever play up since they are the youngest in their age group

Yeah, for the vast majority of fall/q4 players they will actually be playing with kids in their own grade for once in their playing careers. The focus on a tiny number of August kids who might play with kids a grade lower than them is purely caused by on one Mr Delusional August Guy.

It will be interesting to see how these players do and how they’ll adapt. Many will be put into leadership positions they don’t have prior experience with having always been the youngest.

My Q4 player on a MLS Next team has one kid from his school on his team and they're in different grades

Why people keeping talking about being friends in the same grade when the players go to all different schools is ludicrously silly

I don't mean playing with kids from their school, I mean Q4s getting to play with kids their age or younger instead of being the youngest... Everyone knows at these big clubs most of the kids are coming from different schools. I don't see anyone talking about playing with friends from school here (at least within the last 20 or so pages). Though, it is US Soccer's theory that, for the very small percentage that can/will do that, it will keep them invested in soccer longer than the BY cohorts.

It's for the ulittles - for them to all be on grade.

It also settles 80% of trapped player issues.

It was NOT done to fix RAE, as it does not, just shifts the window.

This was discussed unto death in the original 1000 page opus thread. You may not agree with it, but it is a done deal.

100% reguarding "on grade" exactly what people have been saying for over a year.

Now we have crazy crazytown trying to change SY (School Year) to SY (Seasonal Year) so after they get what they want (changing from BY to SY) they can move the goalposts again trying to say grade in school isnt important. When in reality is is very important and what was used to justify the change from BY to SY (school year) in the first place.

So dishonest.

School years are dates set by state/school district. So soccer had to create a compromise school year at the national level. Hence 8/1 to 7/31. Always been dates, this grades thing is just someone constantly throwing a dead cat on the table to take the oxygen out of the room.

What is your agenda? You sit on this thread all day long

Yeah, you figured that guy out! He has the evil agenda of providing accurate and correct information on an online discussion board. Dun dun dun! You cracked the case Sherlock!

You sound like you have issues.

This whole thread has issues. Who gives a sh*t about the age shift? It ain’t the kids…

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone going to mention the first two tiers of boys college recruiting are MLS Club academies then MLS Next teams
Both are BY and school grades are not on anyone's radar

Its because with BY "trapped" players are playing up not down.

Playing up means playing in an older age group
Trapped players today hardly ever play up since they are the youngest in their age group

Yeah, for the vast majority of fall/q4 players they will actually be playing with kids in their own grade for once in their playing careers. The focus on a tiny number of August kids who might play with kids a grade lower than them is purely caused by on one Mr Delusional August Guy.

It will be interesting to see how these players do and how they’ll adapt. Many will be put into leadership positions they don’t have prior experience with having always been the youngest.

My Q4 player on a MLS Next team has one kid from his school on his team and they're in different grades

Why people keeping talking about being friends in the same grade when the players go to all different schools is ludicrously silly

I don't mean playing with kids from their school, I mean Q4s getting to play with kids their age or younger instead of being the youngest... Everyone knows at these big clubs most of the kids are coming from different schools. I don't see anyone talking about playing with friends from school here (at least within the last 20 or so pages). Though, it is US Soccer's theory that, for the very small percentage that can/will do that, it will keep them invested in soccer longer than the BY cohorts.

It's for the ulittles - for them to all be on grade.

It also settles 80% of trapped player issues.

It was NOT done to fix RAE, as it does not, just shifts the window.

This was discussed unto death in the original 1000 page opus thread. You may not agree with it, but it is a done deal.

100% reguarding "on grade" exactly what people have been saying for over a year.

Now we have crazy crazytown trying to change SY (School Year) to SY (Seasonal Year) so after they get what they want (changing from BY to SY) they can move the goalposts again trying to say grade in school isnt important. When in reality is is very important and what was used to justify the change from BY to SY (school year) in the first place.

So dishonest.

School years are dates set by state/school district. So soccer had to create a compromise school year at the national level. Hence 8/1 to 7/31. Always been dates, this grades thing is just someone constantly throwing a dead cat on the table to take the oxygen out of the room.

What is your agenda? You sit on this thread all day long

Yeah, you figured that guy out! He has the evil agenda of providing accurate and correct information on an online discussion board. Dun dun dun! You cracked the case Sherlock!

You sound like you have issues.

This whole thread has issues. Who gives a sh*t about the age shift? It ain’t the kids…

The only people who should give a shit are the Aug kids who are really young for their grade. Throws a wrench in things but it’s not the end of the world. Certainly not worth pages and pages of discussion.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone going to mention the first two tiers of boys college recruiting are MLS Club academies then MLS Next teams
Both are BY and school grades are not on anyone's radar

Its because with BY "trapped" players are playing up not down.

Playing up means playing in an older age group
Trapped players today hardly ever play up since they are the youngest in their age group

Yeah, for the vast majority of fall/q4 players they will actually be playing with kids in their own grade for once in their playing careers. The focus on a tiny number of August kids who might play with kids a grade lower than them is purely caused by on one Mr Delusional August Guy.

It will be interesting to see how these players do and how they’ll adapt. Many will be put into leadership positions they don’t have prior experience with having always been the youngest.

My Q4 player on a MLS Next team has one kid from his school on his team and they're in different grades

Why people keeping talking about being friends in the same grade when the players go to all different schools is ludicrously silly

I don't mean playing with kids from their school, I mean Q4s getting to play with kids their age or younger instead of being the youngest... Everyone knows at these big clubs most of the kids are coming from different schools. I don't see anyone talking about playing with friends from school here (at least within the last 20 or so pages). Though, it is US Soccer's theory that, for the very small percentage that can/will do that, it will keep them invested in soccer longer than the BY cohorts.

It's for the ulittles - for them to all be on grade.

It also settles 80% of trapped player issues.

It was NOT done to fix RAE, as it does not, just shifts the window.

This was discussed unto death in the original 1000 page opus thread. You may not agree with it, but it is a done deal.

100% reguarding "on grade" exactly what people have been saying for over a year.

Now we have crazy crazytown trying to change SY (School Year) to SY (Seasonal Year) so after they get what they want (changing from BY to SY) they can move the goalposts again trying to say grade in school isnt important. When in reality is is very important and what was used to justify the change from BY to SY (school year) in the first place.

So dishonest.

School years are dates set by state/school district. So soccer had to create a compromise school year at the national level. Hence 8/1 to 7/31. Always been dates, this grades thing is just someone constantly throwing a dead cat on the table to take the oxygen out of the room.

What is your agenda? You sit on this thread all day long

Yeah, you figured that guy out! He has the evil agenda of providing accurate and correct information on an online discussion board. Dun dun dun! You cracked the case Sherlock!

You sound like you have issues.

This whole thread has issues. Who gives a sh*t about the age shift? It ain’t the kids…

The only people who should give a shit are the Aug kids who are really young for their grade. Throws a wrench in things but it’s not the end of the world. Certainly not worth pages and pages of discussion.

But what if this one poster has this particular case and wants everyone else to know? It's beyond played out at this point, but they're not going to stop.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone going to mention the first two tiers of boys college recruiting are MLS Club academies then MLS Next teams
Both are BY and school grades are not on anyone's radar

Its because with BY "trapped" players are playing up not down.

Playing up means playing in an older age group
Trapped players today hardly ever play up since they are the youngest in their age group

Yeah, for the vast majority of fall/q4 players they will actually be playing with kids in their own grade for once in their playing careers. The focus on a tiny number of August kids who might play with kids a grade lower than them is purely caused by on one Mr Delusional August Guy.

It will be interesting to see how these players do and how they’ll adapt. Many will be put into leadership positions they don’t have prior experience with having always been the youngest.

My Q4 player on a MLS Next team has one kid from his school on his team and they're in different grades

Why people keeping talking about being friends in the same grade when the players go to all different schools is ludicrously silly

I don't mean playing with kids from their school, I mean Q4s getting to play with kids their age or younger instead of being the youngest... Everyone knows at these big clubs most of the kids are coming from different schools. I don't see anyone talking about playing with friends from school here (at least within the last 20 or so pages). Though, it is US Soccer's theory that, for the very small percentage that can/will do that, it will keep them invested in soccer longer than the BY cohorts.

It's for the ulittles - for them to all be on grade.

It also settles 80% of trapped player issues.

It was NOT done to fix RAE, as it does not, just shifts the window.

This was discussed unto death in the original 1000 page opus thread. You may not agree with it, but it is a done deal.

100% reguarding "on grade" exactly what people have been saying for over a year.

Now we have crazy crazytown trying to change SY (School Year) to SY (Seasonal Year) so after they get what they want (changing from BY to SY) they can move the goalposts again trying to say grade in school isnt important. When in reality is is very important and what was used to justify the change from BY to SY (school year) in the first place.

So dishonest.

School years are dates set by state/school district. So soccer had to create a compromise school year at the national level. Hence 8/1 to 7/31. Always been dates, this grades thing is just someone constantly throwing a dead cat on the table to take the oxygen out of the room.

What is your agenda? You sit on this thread all day long

Yeah, you figured that guy out! He has the evil agenda of providing accurate and correct information on an online discussion board. Dun dun dun! You cracked the case Sherlock!

You sound like you have issues.

This whole thread has issues. Who gives a sh*t about the age shift? It ain’t the kids…

The only people who should give a shit are the Aug kids who are really young for their grade. Throws a wrench in things but it’s not the end of the world. Certainly not worth pages and pages of discussion.

And the kids that are really old for their grade and are switching age groups and have to find new teams. Also, kids who are currently really old for their age group under BY who are going to have their team upended with many kids bigger than them for the first time. And the bulk of the summer born kids that are going from mid aged in an age group to the youngest and likely will have to find new teams as they get bumped down a notch. Just those kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone going to mention the first two tiers of boys college recruiting are MLS Club academies then MLS Next teams
Both are BY and school grades are not on anyone's radar

Its because with BY "trapped" players are playing up not down.

Playing up means playing in an older age group
Trapped players today hardly ever play up since they are the youngest in their age group

Yeah, for the vast majority of fall/q4 players they will actually be playing with kids in their own grade for once in their playing careers. The focus on a tiny number of August kids who might play with kids a grade lower than them is purely caused by on one Mr Delusional August Guy.

It will be interesting to see how these players do and how they’ll adapt. Many will be put into leadership positions they don’t have prior experience with having always been the youngest.

My Q4 player on a MLS Next team has one kid from his school on his team and they're in different grades

Why people keeping talking about being friends in the same grade when the players go to all different schools is ludicrously silly

I don't mean playing with kids from their school, I mean Q4s getting to play with kids their age or younger instead of being the youngest... Everyone knows at these big clubs most of the kids are coming from different schools. I don't see anyone talking about playing with friends from school here (at least within the last 20 or so pages). Though, it is US Soccer's theory that, for the very small percentage that can/will do that, it will keep them invested in soccer longer than the BY cohorts.

It's for the ulittles - for them to all be on grade.

It also settles 80% of trapped player issues.

It was NOT done to fix RAE, as it does not, just shifts the window.

This was discussed unto death in the original 1000 page opus thread. You may not agree with it, but it is a done deal.

100% reguarding "on grade" exactly what people have been saying for over a year.

Now we have crazy crazytown trying to change SY (School Year) to SY (Seasonal Year) so after they get what they want (changing from BY to SY) they can move the goalposts again trying to say grade in school isnt important. When in reality is is very important and what was used to justify the change from BY to SY (school year) in the first place.

So dishonest.

School years are dates set by state/school district. So soccer had to create a compromise school year at the national level. Hence 8/1 to 7/31. Always been dates, this grades thing is just someone constantly throwing a dead cat on the table to take the oxygen out of the room.

What is your agenda? You sit on this thread all day long

Yeah, you figured that guy out! He has the evil agenda of providing accurate and correct information on an online discussion board. Dun dun dun! You cracked the case Sherlock!

You sound like you have issues.

This whole thread has issues. Who gives a sh*t about the age shift? It ain’t the kids…

The only people who should give a shit are the Aug kids who are really young for their grade. Throws a wrench in things but it’s not the end of the world. Certainly not worth pages and pages of discussion.

Its worth understanding what being a young Aug or even Sept birthday means. If your kid is good and shows talent It's better for them to roster on the grade up team so things dont get weird when its time for college recruiting. Players like this can and likely will guest with the grade down team at tournamants. I could also see them being added to the younger group for things like Talent IDs. It would be ironic if young Aug/Sept birthdays as long as they were rostered on a team thats a grade up would get more opportunities because they could play on grade down teams for special events.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone going to mention the first two tiers of boys college recruiting are MLS Club academies then MLS Next teams
Both are BY and school grades are not on anyone's radar

Its because with BY "trapped" players are playing up not down.

Playing up means playing in an older age group
Trapped players today hardly ever play up since they are the youngest in their age group

Yeah, for the vast majority of fall/q4 players they will actually be playing with kids in their own grade for once in their playing careers. The focus on a tiny number of August kids who might play with kids a grade lower than them is purely caused by on one Mr Delusional August Guy.

It will be interesting to see how these players do and how they’ll adapt. Many will be put into leadership positions they don’t have prior experience with having always been the youngest.

My Q4 player on a MLS Next team has one kid from his school on his team and they're in different grades

Why people keeping talking about being friends in the same grade when the players go to all different schools is ludicrously silly

I don't mean playing with kids from their school, I mean Q4s getting to play with kids their age or younger instead of being the youngest... Everyone knows at these big clubs most of the kids are coming from different schools. I don't see anyone talking about playing with friends from school here (at least within the last 20 or so pages). Though, it is US Soccer's theory that, for the very small percentage that can/will do that, it will keep them invested in soccer longer than the BY cohorts.

It's for the ulittles - for them to all be on grade.

It also settles 80% of trapped player issues.

It was NOT done to fix RAE, as it does not, just shifts the window.

This was discussed unto death in the original 1000 page opus thread. You may not agree with it, but it is a done deal.

100% reguarding "on grade" exactly what people have been saying for over a year.

Now we have crazy crazytown trying to change SY (School Year) to SY (Seasonal Year) so after they get what they want (changing from BY to SY) they can move the goalposts again trying to say grade in school isnt important. When in reality is is very important and what was used to justify the change from BY to SY (school year) in the first place.

So dishonest.

School years are dates set by state/school district. So soccer had to create a compromise school year at the national level. Hence 8/1 to 7/31. Always been dates, this grades thing is just someone constantly throwing a dead cat on the table to take the oxygen out of the room.

What is your agenda? You sit on this thread all day long

Yeah, you figured that guy out! He has the evil agenda of providing accurate and correct information on an online discussion board. Dun dun dun! You cracked the case Sherlock!

You sound like you have issues.

This whole thread has issues. Who gives a sh*t about the age shift? It ain’t the kids…

The only people who should give a shit are the Aug kids who are really young for their grade. Throws a wrench in things but it’s not the end of the world. Certainly not worth pages and pages of discussion.

Its worth understanding what being a young Aug or even Sept birthday means. If your kid is good and shows talent It's better for them to roster on the grade up team so things dont get weird when its time for college recruiting. Players like this can and likely will guest with the grade down team at tournamants. I could also see them being added to the younger group for things like Talent IDs. It would be ironic if young Aug/Sept birthdays as long as they were rostered on a team thats a grade up would get more opportunities because they could play on grade down teams for special events.

I could see them playing on age, like clubs said that is how they are going to roster kids. On age. Oldest is a gift not to be thrown away to advantage some guy's Sept daughter who keeps trying to reverse engineer the rules to help his DD at the expense of others.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone going to mention the first two tiers of boys college recruiting are MLS Club academies then MLS Next teams
Both are BY and school grades are not on anyone's radar

Its because with BY "trapped" players are playing up not down.

Playing up means playing in an older age group
Trapped players today hardly ever play up since they are the youngest in their age group

Yeah, for the vast majority of fall/q4 players they will actually be playing with kids in their own grade for once in their playing careers. The focus on a tiny number of August kids who might play with kids a grade lower than them is purely caused by on one Mr Delusional August Guy.

It will be interesting to see how these players do and how they’ll adapt. Many will be put into leadership positions they don’t have prior experience with having always been the youngest.

My Q4 player on a MLS Next team has one kid from his school on his team and they're in different grades

Why people keeping talking about being friends in the same grade when the players go to all different schools is ludicrously silly

I don't mean playing with kids from their school, I mean Q4s getting to play with kids their age or younger instead of being the youngest... Everyone knows at these big clubs most of the kids are coming from different schools. I don't see anyone talking about playing with friends from school here (at least within the last 20 or so pages). Though, it is US Soccer's theory that, for the very small percentage that can/will do that, it will keep them invested in soccer longer than the BY cohorts.

It's for the ulittles - for them to all be on grade.

It also settles 80% of trapped player issues.

It was NOT done to fix RAE, as it does not, just shifts the window.

This was discussed unto death in the original 1000 page opus thread. You may not agree with it, but it is a done deal.

100% reguarding "on grade" exactly what people have been saying for over a year.

Now we have crazy crazytown trying to change SY (School Year) to SY (Seasonal Year) so after they get what they want (changing from BY to SY) they can move the goalposts again trying to say grade in school isnt important. When in reality is is very important and what was used to justify the change from BY to SY (school year) in the first place.

So dishonest.

School years are dates set by state/school district. So soccer had to create a compromise school year at the national level. Hence 8/1 to 7/31. Always been dates, this grades thing is just someone constantly throwing a dead cat on the table to take the oxygen out of the room.

What is your agenda? You sit on this thread all day long

Yeah, you figured that guy out! He has the evil agenda of providing accurate and correct information on an online discussion board. Dun dun dun! You cracked the case Sherlock!

You sound like you have issues.

This whole thread has issues. Who gives a sh*t about the age shift? It ain’t the kids…

The only people who should give a shit are the Aug kids who are really young for their grade. Throws a wrench in things but it’s not the end of the world. Certainly not worth pages and pages of discussion.

Its worth understanding what being a young Aug or even Sept birthday means. If your kid is good and shows talent It's better for them to roster on the grade up team so things dont get weird when its time for college recruiting. Players like this can and likely will guest with the grade down team at tournamants. I could also see them being added to the younger group for things like Talent IDs. It would be ironic if young Aug/Sept birthdays as long as they were rostered on a team thats a grade up would get more opportunities because they could play on grade down teams for special events.

I could see them playing on age, like clubs said that is how they are going to roster kids. On age. Oldest is a gift not to be thrown away to advantage some guy's Sept daughter who keeps trying to reverse engineer the rules to help his DD at the expense of others.

What are you talking about?

Time to take a step back.

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Need some advice. DD is a top player on a household name top team in ECNL and the only younger on her team.

Do I stay on current team and play against good players but be trapped?

Do I drop down to the grade level team and be their top player but not be as challenged.

I think the club would like her to drop down but think they would allow her to stay up if I pushed.

I am leaning towards pushing to keep her up and not sure how that will go over.

There are alternative clubs but none as good as our current one.

Recruiting will start so need to make the decision and just live with it.

Will coaches overlook her if she is trapped when very few off grade kids will be out there now with the age group changes.

Is it better to develop or stand out

Does it all really matter in the first place or is this not really a problem either way

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Anonymous wrote:Need some advice. DD is a top player on a household name top team in ECNL and the only younger on her team.

Do I stay on current team and play against good players but be trapped?

Do I drop down to the grade level team and be their top player but not be as challenged.

I think the club would like her to drop down but think they would allow her to stay up if I pushed.

I am leaning towards pushing to keep her up and not sure how that will go over.

There are alternative clubs but none as good as our current one.

Recruiting will start so need to make the decision and just live with it.

Will coaches overlook her if she is trapped when very few off grade kids will be out there now with the age group changes.

Is it better to develop or stand out

Does it all really matter in the first place or is this not really a problem either way

It only matters if your kid is younger than their grade level SY 8/1-7/31 eligibility window team.

If they're older than the SY 8/1-7/31 eligibility window likely from being held back they will have to play whatever grwade level team they're eligible for. What this means is in club soccer you cant gain any advantage over other players by degrading/regrading.

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The best situation if you had a younger than the eligibility window but grade up player would be to roster them "up" on the correct grade level team for development.

Ideally your club would be aware that your kid could also play down. This way they'd have 2x the number of teams they could play with for tournamants. Also for things like Talent IDs they'd be pretty much guaranteed an invite at the lover level bevause they're playing and developing at a higher level than everyone else their age.