Trapped/Re-aging Families, How are you having the conversation?

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone going to mention the first two tiers of boys college recruiting are MLS Club academies then MLS Next teams
Both are BY and school grades are not on anyone's radar

Its because with BY "trapped" players are playing up not down.

Playing up means playing in an older age group
Trapped players today hardly ever play up since they are the youngest in their age group

Yeah, for the vast majority of fall/q4 players they will actually be playing with kids in their own grade for once in their playing careers. The focus on a tiny number of August kids who might play with kids a grade lower than them is purely caused by on one Mr Delusional August Guy.

It will be interesting to see how these players do and how they’ll adapt. Many will be put into leadership positions they don’t have prior experience with having always been the youngest.

My Q4 player on a MLS Next team has one kid from his school on his team and they're in different grades

Why people keeping talking about being friends in the same grade when the players go to all different schools is ludicrously silly

Yet being able to play with your "grade level cohort" was one of the primary reasons for changing from BY to SY.

So many plot holes

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone going to mention the first two tiers of boys college recruiting are MLS Club academies then MLS Next teams
Both are BY and school grades are not on anyone's radar

Its because with BY "trapped" players are playing up not down.

Playing up means playing in an older age group
Trapped players today hardly ever play up since they are the youngest in their age group

Yeah, for the vast majority of fall/q4 players they will actually be playing with kids in their own grade for once in their playing careers. The focus on a tiny number of August kids who might play with kids a grade lower than them is purely caused by on one Mr Delusional August Guy.

It will be interesting to see how these players do and how they’ll adapt. Many will be put into leadership positions they don’t have prior experience with having always been the youngest.

My Q4 player on a MLS Next team has one kid from his school on his team and they're in different grades

Why people keeping talking about being friends in the same grade when the players go to all different schools is ludicrously silly

I don't mean playing with kids from their school, I mean Q4s getting to play with kids their age or younger instead of being the youngest... Everyone knows at these big clubs most of the kids are coming from different schools. I don't see anyone talking about playing with friends from school here (at least within the last 20 or so pages). Though, it is US Soccer's theory that, for the very small percentage that can/will do that, it will keep them invested in soccer longer than the BY cohorts.

[Anonymous]

You are all silly. Your back to the same arguments that were being made over a year ago. It's a done deal can we focus on what actual clubs are doing to facilitate the transition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone going to mention the first two tiers of boys college recruiting are MLS Club academies then MLS Next teams
Both are BY and school grades are not on anyone's radar

Its because with BY "trapped" players are playing up not down.

Playing up means playing in an older age group
Trapped players today hardly ever play up since they are the youngest in their age group

Yeah, for the vast majority of fall/q4 players they will actually be playing with kids in their own grade for once in their playing careers. The focus on a tiny number of August kids who might play with kids a grade lower than them is purely caused by on one Mr Delusional August Guy.

It will be interesting to see how these players do and how they’ll adapt. Many will be put into leadership positions they don’t have prior experience with having always been the youngest.

My Q4 player on a MLS Next team has one kid from his school on his team and they're in different grades

Why people keeping talking about being friends in the same grade when the players go to all different schools is ludicrously silly

I don't mean playing with kids from their school, I mean Q4s getting to play with kids their age or younger instead of being the youngest... Everyone knows at these big clubs most of the kids are coming from different schools. I don't see anyone talking about playing with friends from school here (at least within the last 20 or so pages). Though, it is US Soccer's theory that, for the very small percentage that can/will do that, it will keep them invested in soccer longer than the BY cohorts.

It's for the ulittles - for them to all be on grade.

It also settles 80% of trapped player issues.

It was NOT done to fix RAE, as it does not, just shifts the window.

This was discussed unto death in the original 1000 page opus thread. You may not agree with it, but it is a done deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You are all silly. Your back to the same arguments that were being made over a year ago. It's a done deal can we focus on what actual clubs are doing to facilitate the transition.

We have been trying to do that... Whenever large clubs post what is happening it gets posted here, it just then tends to get buried by a certain someone...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone going to mention the first two tiers of boys college recruiting are MLS Club academies then MLS Next teams
Both are BY and school grades are not on anyone's radar

Its because with BY "trapped" players are playing up not down.

Playing up means playing in an older age group
Trapped players today hardly ever play up since they are the youngest in their age group

Yeah, for the vast majority of fall/q4 players they will actually be playing with kids in their own grade for once in their playing careers. The focus on a tiny number of August kids who might play with kids a grade lower than them is purely caused by on one Mr Delusional August Guy.

It will be interesting to see how these players do and how they’ll adapt. Many will be put into leadership positions they don’t have prior experience with having always been the youngest.

My Q4 player on a MLS Next team has one kid from his school on his team and they're in different grades

Why people keeping talking about being friends in the same grade when the players go to all different schools is ludicrously silly

I don't mean playing with kids from their school, I mean Q4s getting to play with kids their age or younger instead of being the youngest... Everyone knows at these big clubs most of the kids are coming from different schools. I don't see anyone talking about playing with friends from school here (at least within the last 20 or so pages). Though, it is US Soccer's theory that, for the very small percentage that can/will do that, it will keep them invested in soccer longer than the BY cohorts.

So should ECNL switch back in 5 years because a September 1st or August 1st cutoff makes July Q4 players the youngest and we need a system where nobody is the youngest? 😂
Maybe we start doing 30 day cutoffs instead of 12 month periods

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone going to mention the first two tiers of boys college recruiting are MLS Club academies then MLS Next teams
Both are BY and school grades are not on anyone's radar

Its because with BY "trapped" players are playing up not down.

Playing up means playing in an older age group
Trapped players today hardly ever play up since they are the youngest in their age group

Yeah, for the vast majority of fall/q4 players they will actually be playing with kids in their own grade for once in their playing careers. The focus on a tiny number of August kids who might play with kids a grade lower than them is purely caused by on one Mr Delusional August Guy.

It will be interesting to see how these players do and how they’ll adapt. Many will be put into leadership positions they don’t have prior experience with having always been the youngest.

My Q4 player on a MLS Next team has one kid from his school on his team and they're in different grades

Why people keeping talking about being friends in the same grade when the players go to all different schools is ludicrously silly

I don't mean playing with kids from their school, I mean Q4s getting to play with kids their age or younger instead of being the youngest... Everyone knows at these big clubs most of the kids are coming from different schools. I don't see anyone talking about playing with friends from school here (at least within the last 20 or so pages). Though, it is US Soccer's theory that, for the very small percentage that can/will do that, it will keep them invested in soccer longer than the BY cohorts.

So should ECNL switch back in 5 years because a September 1st or August 1st cutoff makes July Q4 players the youngest and we need a system where nobody is the youngest? 😂
Maybe we start doing 30 day cutoffs instead of 12 month periods

No? I don't see where I am saying that at all? It is literally just a post pointing out obvious things.

[Anonymous]

Each age group should be 11-months, so which month is the oldest/youngest keeps changing!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone going to mention the first two tiers of boys college recruiting are MLS Club academies then MLS Next teams
Both are BY and school grades are not on anyone's radar

Its because with BY "trapped" players are playing up not down.

Playing up means playing in an older age group
Trapped players today hardly ever play up since they are the youngest in their age group

Yeah, for the vast majority of fall/q4 players they will actually be playing with kids in their own grade for once in their playing careers. The focus on a tiny number of August kids who might play with kids a grade lower than them is purely caused by on one Mr Delusional August Guy.

It will be interesting to see how these players do and how they’ll adapt. Many will be put into leadership positions they don’t have prior experience with having always been the youngest.

My Q4 player on a MLS Next team has one kid from his school on his team and they're in different grades

Why people keeping talking about being friends in the same grade when the players go to all different schools is ludicrously silly

I don't mean playing with kids from their school, I mean Q4s getting to play with kids their age or younger instead of being the youngest... Everyone knows at these big clubs most of the kids are coming from different schools. I don't see anyone talking about playing with friends from school here (at least within the last 20 or so pages). Though, it is US Soccer's theory that, for the very small percentage that can/will do that, it will keep them invested in soccer longer than the BY cohorts.

It's for the ulittles - for them to all be on grade.

It also settles 80% of trapped player issues.

It was NOT done to fix RAE, as it does not, just shifts the window.

This was discussed unto death in the original 1000 page opus thread. You may not agree with it, but it is a done deal.

100% reguarding "on grade" exactly what people have been saying for over a year.

Now we have crazy crazytown trying to change SY (School Year) to SY (Seasonal Year) so after they get what they want (changing from BY to SY) they can move the goalposts again trying to say grade in school isnt important. When in reality is is very important and what was used to justify the change from BY to SY (school year) in the first place.

So dishonest.

[Anonymous]

My take will be vary unpopular but for kids who are age wise ahead of there grade it should be an automatic 2nd team.... School grades matter for recruiting.

The rest will work out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My take will be vary unpopular but for kids who are age wise ahead of there grade it should be an automatic 2nd team.... School grades matter for recruiting.

The rest will work out.

Know of any exceptional players not recruited because of a grade issue?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My take will be vary unpopular but for kids who are age wise ahead of there grade it should be an automatic 2nd team.... School grades matter for recruiting.

The rest will work out.

Know of any exceptional players not recruited because of a grade issue?

Yeah it happens every year at a top 5 national club. If the grades arent in order the DOC wont even talk to a college coach on behalf of the player.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My take will be vary unpopular but for kids who are age wise ahead of there grade it should be an automatic 2nd team.... School grades matter for recruiting.

The rest will work out.

Know of any exceptional players not recruited because of a grade issue?

Yeah it happens every year at a top 5 national club. If the grades arent in order the DOC wont even talk to a college coach on behalf of the player.

Not GPA
The school class grade

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone going to mention the first two tiers of boys college recruiting are MLS Club academies then MLS Next teams
Both are BY and school grades are not on anyone's radar

Its because with BY "trapped" players are playing up not down.

Playing up means playing in an older age group
Trapped players today hardly ever play up since they are the youngest in their age group

Yeah, for the vast majority of fall/q4 players they will actually be playing with kids in their own grade for once in their playing careers. The focus on a tiny number of August kids who might play with kids a grade lower than them is purely caused by on one Mr Delusional August Guy.

It will be interesting to see how these players do and how they’ll adapt. Many will be put into leadership positions they don’t have prior experience with having always been the youngest.

My Q4 player on a MLS Next team has one kid from his school on his team and they're in different grades

Why people keeping talking about being friends in the same grade when the players go to all different schools is ludicrously silly

I don't mean playing with kids from their school, I mean Q4s getting to play with kids their age or younger instead of being the youngest... Everyone knows at these big clubs most of the kids are coming from different schools. I don't see anyone talking about playing with friends from school here (at least within the last 20 or so pages). Though, it is US Soccer's theory that, for the very small percentage that can/will do that, it will keep them invested in soccer longer than the BY cohorts.

It's for the ulittles - for them to all be on grade.

It also settles 80% of trapped player issues.

It was NOT done to fix RAE, as it does not, just shifts the window.

This was discussed unto death in the original 1000 page opus thread. You may not agree with it, but it is a done deal.

100% reguarding "on grade" exactly what people have been saying for over a year.

Now we have crazy crazytown trying to change SY (School Year) to SY (Seasonal Year) so after they get what they want (changing from BY to SY) they can move the goalposts again trying to say grade in school isnt important. When in reality is is very important and what was used to justify the change from BY to SY (school year) in the first place.

So dishonest.

Hey Delusional August Guy, it is literally called Seasonal year by USYS idiot! https://www.usyouthsoccer.org/news/2025/03/05/us-youth-soccer-us-club-soccer-and-ayso-returning-to-seasonal-year-age-group-formation-in-2026/

"US Youth Soccer, US Club Soccer, and AYSO Returning to Seasonal-Year Age Group Formation in 2026 "

I know you are delusional, and dumb, and you can't spell but I thought you could at least read! Oh well!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My take will be vary unpopular but for kids who are age wise ahead of there grade it should be an automatic 2nd team.... School grades matter for recruiting.

The rest will work out.

I would rather have weight maximums for each age groups. Guess we can all make up rules that don't matter and won't be used. Thinking about trolling every forum with this arguing that this is such a a great idea that if you don't agree you kid is terrible at soccer and very young. I will go at it no stop day and night until I get a real hobby.