Navy Elementary New Principal

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe instead of communicating on this anonymous forum endlessly with no solutions someone should set up a parent meeting for coffee somewhere instead of just plotting a not so secret overthrow at another school? Or a what's app chat?

I think a staff meeting is more important than a parent meeting. Parents (like whoever drafted that email) do not represent the entire staff. Not one of those issues in the email was actually a staff concern.

I wish we could actually find out what the real concerns are. The email said the teachers perceive his management style as exacerbating their issues. We still have yet to hear what they are.

The email also said “we urge all families to take the principal evaluation survey…it is crucial we express our dissatisfaction with the current leadership.”

Why did the sub think it was appropriate to forward this email on to entire classes???

Also who gave the sub everyone’s email address? Did she use fcps resources to get this email distribution? Parents gave their email addresses to fcps with the trust that our emails were to be used only for school purposes. This is clearly a violation of trust and perhaps even more.

You are 100% correct. It’s my understanding she did indeed use FCPS resources to get access to the parent emails. It is completely inappropriate for an FCPS employee to circulate propaganda against the principal like this.

That has got to be a MAJOR violation of FCPS rules. I'm a little mad that parent emails are now distributed publicly. How is FCPS going to respond to this?

Hopefully by terminating her. I don’t give a damn if there’s a sub shortage - I don’t want her working in the schools. I encourage all of you to please speak with the principal about this.

Youre all crazy…

a) leave the teachers alone. You are grasping at straws and turning this into something that its not. Ridiculous. Just stop. Youre going to argue this cause thats what “you” do, but stop, you look bad. Move on.

B) Amos is probably a good guy, able to be a good principal, but he hasnt earned the respect of the teachers… simple as that. That goes a long way and the parents who comment on here about all the nonsense-you dont understand that and thats ok- but leave the teachers alone. Its awful. I am not saying that means Amos shouldnt be in his position but he NEEDS to do better go fix the the staff climate.

C) This isnt about Jon, stop it. You sound dumb. Navy is a close community, for better or worse, parents and staff alike. Nothing will ever be perfect in any school, but there IS a problem there right now, and it has to do with accepting change, yes; but also current administration isnt doing their part in supporting the issue— denying they exist is not being a leader.

D) stop pulling the race card. Whoever started that, youre the worst kind of person there is. Creating problems that dont belong in the conversation. The issues the emailing parent has, and the issues that the staff have would be had regardless of the Principals ethnicity and race.

Youre stupid.

The end.

Teachers have been pretty much left alone. Parents are allowed to have opinions about how they teach on here, just like teachers have opinions about their students, students’ families, and admin (as evidenced on the teacher message boards). I think many parents are actually happy there’s a new principal upholding teachers to some higher standards now as many parents haven’t had the greatest experiences with some of the teachers at Navy. I can honestly say this year has been great for my child and I attribute that to some of the changes the new principal has made.

[Anonymous]

One only needs to look as far back as 8/27/2023 (just 6 days into the school year) in of this 1000+ message post to know this guy didn’t stand a chance at this school. The amount of hate he has dealt with from the day he started is astonishing. We sat at our orientation the week before school even started to hear the teachers insert snide remarks throughout the entire presentation with regards to their new leader. You were able to speak to his character after just one week?

Then someone decided to send a very calculated email asking parents to speak out against the principal citing exaggerated safety concerns (now completely debunked). Certain parents called the police to the school then cried that the principal wasn’t transparent.

Now when parents are asking staff or their reps for reasons why they are upset, it’s been crickets even after 1000+ posts. You can’t blame ppl for having opinions as to why ppl feel a certain way about him. We are a diverse community and most of us know what to think when “feelings” about someone from the start are not backed up with facts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One only needs to look as far back as 8/27/2023 (just 6 days into the school year) in of this 1000+ message post to know this guy didn’t stand a chance at this school. The amount of hate he has dealt with from the day he started is astonishing. We sat at our orientation the week before school even started to hear the teachers insert snide remarks throughout the entire presentation with regards to their new leader. You were able to speak to his character after just one week?

Then someone decided to send a very calculated email asking parents to speak out against the principal citing exaggerated safety concerns (now completely debunked). Certain parents called the police to the school then cried that the principal wasn’t transparent.

Now when parents are asking staff or their reps for reasons why they are upset, it’s been crickets even after 1000+ posts. You can’t blame ppl for having opinions as to why ppl feel a certain way about him. We are a diverse community and most of us know what to think when “feelings” about someone from the start are not backed up with facts.

+1 this is so brilliantly articulated. Thank you.

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For the parents that support the principal, what do you like about him? I’d love to hear some positives. I’ll start. He has been present at every single community event. He is exuberant. He has a great rapport with the kids.

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Anonymous wrote:For the parents that support the principal, what do you like about him? I’d love to hear some positives. I’ll start. He has been present at every single community event. He is exuberant. He has a great rapport with the kids.

+1. I was in attendance at his last coffee. Not many were in attendance which was surprising to me given the email and negative chatter. I left scratching my head and thinking why all the hate against this guy? I'll give him props for sitting there and looking at us in the eye and going through all of the topics from the email going around. Not many would have done what he did and I gained respect for him for having done that.

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Anonymous wrote:For the parents that support the principal, what do you like about him? I’d love to hear some positives. I’ll start. He has been present at every single community event. He is exuberant. He has a great rapport with the kids.

+1. I was in attendance at his last coffee. Not many were in attendance which was surprising to me given the email and negative chatter. I left scratching my head and thinking why all the hate against this guy? I'll give him props for sitting there and looking at us in the eye and going through all of the topics from the email going around. Not many would have done what he did and I gained respect for him for having done that.

+1. We like him because our DC adores him. He engages our DC, asks inquisitive questions about various projects carried into school by our DC. For me it’s also the simple things like how on rainy days, he stands outside, helping as many kids as possible at KNR by holding umbrellas over their head.

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Anonymous wrote:For the parents that support the principal, what do you like about him? I’d love to hear some positives. I’ll start. He has been present at every single community event. He is exuberant. He has a great rapport with the kids.

+1. I was in attendance at his last coffee. Not many were in attendance which was surprising to me given the email and negative chatter. I left scratching my head and thinking why all the hate against this guy? I'll give him props for sitting there and looking at us in the eye and going through all of the topics from the email going around. Not many would have done what he did and I gained respect for him for having done that.

That’s awesome! I wish more had attended. I also was surprised by the low turnout. I guess the real “Keyboard Karens” didn’t have the balls to face him.

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Anonymous wrote:For the parents that support the principal, what do you like about him? I’d love to hear some positives. I’ll start. He has been present at every single community event. He is exuberant. He has a great rapport with the kids.

He’s a great role model. He doesn’t drunk drive his car into someone’s house and then flee the scene.

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Anonymous wrote:For the parents that support the principal, what do you like about him? I’d love to hear some positives. I’ll start. He has been present at every single community event. He is exuberant. He has a great rapport with the kids.

+1. I was in attendance at his last coffee. Not many were in attendance which was surprising to me given the email and negative chatter. I left scratching my head and thinking why all the hate against this guy? I'll give him props for sitting there and looking at us in the eye and going through all of the topics from the email going around. Not many would have done what he did and I gained respect for him for having done that.

+1. We like him because our DC adores him. He engages our DC, asks inquisitive questions about various projects carried into school by our DC. For me it’s also the simple things like how on rainy days, he stands outside, helping as many kids as possible at KNR by holding umbrellas over their head.

My child also thinks he’s the nicest friendliest coolest guy ever. Lol.

Children truly are innocent and honest in their reactions. I care more about their feelings and opinions than anyone else. They know who’s genuine and kind. And they definitely know who’s not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For the parents that support the principal, what do you like about him? I’d love to hear some positives. I’ll start. He has been present at every single community event. He is exuberant. He has a great rapport with the kids.

He’s a great role model. He doesn’t drunk drive his car into someone’s house and then flee the scene.

+1 ouch! Lol

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Anonymous wrote:For the parents that support the principal, what do you like about him? I’d love to hear some positives. I’ll start. He has been present at every single community event. He is exuberant. He has a great rapport with the kids.

He’s a great role model. He doesn’t drunk drive his car into someone’s house and then flee the scene.

LOL! You win the Internet.

[Anonymous]

The communication this year from newsletters and emails has been fantastic. We even noticed there is actually better communication from our child’s teachers this year.

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Anonymous wrote:For the parents that support the principal, what do you like about him? I’d love to hear some positives. I’ll start. He has been present at every single community event. He is exuberant. He has a great rapport with the kids.

He’s a great role model. He doesn’t drunk drive his car into someone’s house and then flee the scene.

LOL! You win the Internet.

100%

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe instead of communicating on this anonymous forum endlessly with no solutions someone should set up a parent meeting for coffee somewhere instead of just plotting a not so secret overthrow at another school? Or a what's app chat?

I think a staff meeting is more important than a parent meeting. Parents (like whoever drafted that email) do not represent the entire staff. Not one of those issues in the email was actually a staff concern.

I wish we could actually find out what the real concerns are. The email said the teachers perceive his management style as exacerbating their issues. We still have yet to hear what they are.

The email also said “we urge all families to take the principal evaluation survey…it is crucial we express our dissatisfaction with the current leadership.”

Why did the sub think it was appropriate to forward this email on to entire classes???

Also who gave the sub everyone’s email address? Did she use fcps resources to get this email distribution? Parents gave their email addresses to fcps with the trust that our emails were to be used only for school purposes. This is clearly a violation of trust and perhaps even more.

You are 100% correct. It’s my understanding she did indeed use FCPS resources to get access to the parent emails. It is completely inappropriate for an FCPS employee to circulate propaganda against the principal like this.

That has got to be a MAJOR violation of FCPS rules. I'm a little mad that parent emails are now distributed publicly. How is FCPS going to respond to this?

Hopefully by terminating her. I don’t give a damn if there’s a sub shortage - I don’t want her working in the schools. I encourage all of you to please speak with the principal about this.

Youre all crazy…

a) leave the teachers alone. You are grasping at straws and turning this into something that its not. Ridiculous. Just stop. Youre going to argue this cause thats what “you” do, but stop, you look bad. Move on.

B) Amos is probably a good guy, able to be a good principal, but he hasnt earned the respect of the teachers… simple as that. That goes a long way and the parents who comment on here about all the nonsense-you dont understand that and thats ok- but leave the teachers alone. Its awful. I am not saying that means Amos shouldnt be in his position but he NEEDS to do better go fix the the staff climate.

C) This isnt about Jon, stop it. You sound dumb. Navy is a close community, for better or worse, parents and staff alike. Nothing will ever be perfect in any school, but there IS a problem there right now, and it has to do with accepting change, yes; but also current administration isnt doing their part in supporting the issue— denying they exist is not being a leader.

D) stop pulling the race card. Whoever started that, youre the worst kind of person there is. Creating problems that dont belong in the conversation. The issues the emailing parent has, and the issues that the staff have would be had regardless of the Principals ethnicity and race.

Youre stupid.

The end.

You don’t recognize that tearing him down without any legitimate facts seems racist? Ok. Good luck with your meeting at Graham Road where you make complete asses of yourselves in front of extremely liberal Dr. Reid.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One only needs to look as far back as 8/27/2023 (just 6 days into the school year) in of this 1000+ message post to know this guy didn’t stand a chance at this school. The amount of hate he has dealt with from the day he started is astonishing. We sat at our orientation the week before school even started to hear the teachers insert snide remarks throughout the entire presentation with regards to their new leader. You were able to speak to his character after just one week?

Then someone decided to send a very calculated email asking parents to speak out against the principal citing exaggerated safety concerns (now completely debunked). Certain parents called the police to the school then cried that the principal wasn’t transparent.

Now when parents are asking staff or their reps for reasons why they are upset, it’s been crickets even after 1000+ posts. You can’t blame ppl for having opinions as to why ppl feel a certain way about him. We are a diverse community and most of us know what to think when “feelings” about someone from the start are not backed up with facts.

This is so well written and articulately lays out the drama that has been going on for the past year. Unlike the other post that says, "Youre stupid. The end."