Physicians Assistant yelling “HELP ME” while stealing a CitiBike ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate the epithet Karen and how it dehumanizes middle-aged whites women.

But, bestowing a name on internet mobs like this might gain traction the way Karen gained traction. And it might change behavior in a good way.

Names have power. No, we shouldn’t cater to the pp’s who keep repeating “progressive POC mob” because a. they’re racists and b. the attacks on this women were from across the spectrum. But calling these mobs something neutral like “Davids” might have more power than simply bemoaning these events?

"I hate this name calling when people do it to people like me, but maybe it could be good if we used name calling against people I don't like" isn't a helpful suggestion. The most helpful thing anyone can do to stop mobs is not be part of them, on whatever side.

Huh, that’s your takeaway? That Karen is tots OK but we shouldn’t try to shame anybody who uses it unfairly?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate the epithet Karen and how it dehumanizes middle-aged whites women.

But, bestowing a name on internet mobs like this might gain traction the way Karen gained traction. And it might change behavior in a good way.

Names have power. No, we shouldn’t cater to the pp’s who keep repeating “progressive POC mob” because a. they’re racists and b. the attacks on this women were from across the spectrum. But calling these mobs something neutral like “Davids” might have more power than simply bemoaning these events?

Not against your suggestion but would like to point out that the vast majority of people I saw jumping on this bandwagon were women. Of all races -- a lot of black women seem to have personalized this story without even watching the video, but I also saw a lot of white women trying to prove their allyship by attacking the nurse (which is classic -- "I can't be racist, look how much I hate this OTHER person who we've all decided is racist").

Men did it, too, but the most vocal critics were all women.

This, this, this. I can say here that it seems to be that some black women and some “progressive” white women seem the most invested, going off of twitter activity, on perpetuating “Karen” to its most vicious and irrational endpoint.

[Anonymous]

Her lawyer posted to LinkedIn and I think they’re out for blood with the media.

[Anonymous]

Did you hear the one dude say, “your baby is going to come out regarded.”? Nice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope everyone involves feels great about harassing a *pregnant* *nurse* who lives in the *Bronx* and spends twelve hour shifts SIX MONTHS pregnant helping the *poorest New Yorkers.* This woman could end up with a stillbirth due to this episode.

I wish her nothing but the best with her pregnancy and home she instead winds up with a cash settlement that she can use to take a nice beach vacation and then send her baby to college. I'm so incensed about this.

Monique Judge, the woman who wrote the essay about how this is exactly the same as Emmett Till (cool cool way to use Emmett Till's name just to prove your petty little point), has already said she simply does not believe the nurse's lawyer. I do hope she gets sued.

I hope the PA makes her sell her house to cover the judgment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Her lawyer posted to LinkedIn and I think they’re out for blood with the media.

As they should be. I hope they get that waste of space Monique too.

[Anonymous]

This might be a good time for some people to review another false "Karen" accusation -- the Central Park - bird watcher incident in 2020.

https://www.thefp.com/p/the-real-story-of-the-central-park

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope everyone involves feels great about harassing a *pregnant* *nurse* who lives in the *Bronx* and spends twelve hour shifts SIX MONTHS pregnant helping the *poorest New Yorkers.* This woman could end up with a stillbirth due to this episode.

I wish her nothing but the best with her pregnancy and home she instead winds up with a cash settlement that she can use to take a nice beach vacation and then send her baby to college. I'm so incensed about this.

Monique Judge, the woman who wrote the essay about how this is exactly the same as Emmett Till (cool cool way to use Emmett Till's name just to prove your petty little point), has already said she simply does not believe the nurse's lawyer. I do hope she gets sued.

I hope the PA makes her sell her house to cover the judgment.

Maybe if we have enough mobs, one will finally turn out to be righteous.

[Anonymous]

Lesson: mobs are bad. There is no good mob. Mobs are never just. Don't join mobs and if any group tells you justice demands you do so, regard them with deep suspicion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope everyone involves feels great about harassing a *pregnant* *nurse* who lives in the *Bronx* and spends twelve hour shifts SIX MONTHS pregnant helping the *poorest New Yorkers.* This woman could end up with a stillbirth due to this episode.

I wish her nothing but the best with her pregnancy and home she instead winds up with a cash settlement that she can use to take a nice beach vacation and then send her baby to college. I'm so incensed about this.

Monique Judge, the woman who wrote the essay about how this is exactly the same as Emmett Till (cool cool way to use Emmett Till's name just to prove your petty little point), has already said she simply does not believe the nurse's lawyer. I do hope she gets sued.

I hope the PA makes her sell her house to cover the judgment.

Maybe if we have enough mobs, one will finally turn out to be righteous.

Don’t want to get sued? Don’t defame people.

I hope she gets Roxane Gay too.

[Anonymous]

Daily Beast now has a story

[Anonymous]

"Karens" in my experience are women who work all their lives and get paid less than men. A lot of "Karens" work in heath care, they worked through the pandemic, work well into their pregnancies and just want to bike home after a 12-hour shift without being hassled.

Karens engage in their communities, do the heavy lifting at home, take care of aging parents. They don't walk out on their kids. They don't take others property. They dont shoot up schools or bomb buildings.

The idea that men have decided that because they can point to This One Time Here and This Other Time Here when women have acted atrociously, they are allowed to pull a thread to all the middle age white ladies just fills me with rage. Oh, someone is giving you "Can I Speak to the Manager" energy? How hard for you. Why don't you open the front page and take a look at what women see: Men starting wars, men committing acts of terrorism, men shooting up movie theaters and schools, men killing their wives. What name do you call them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This might be a good time for some people to review another false "Karen" accusation -- the Central Park - bird watcher incident in 2020.

https://www.thefp.com/p/the-real-story-of-the-central-park

I think this is different. It's very clear Amy Cooper is trying to sic the cops on Christian Cooper in that video, and these mitigating facts (that he issued a somewhat veiled threat, and that he was trying to lure her dog away from the bushes with dog treats) don't undercut that. I have been on this thread defending the nurse in the Citi Bike video but what she did is nothing close to what Amy Cooper did. Amy Cooper called the police, and not only does she put on a faux fearful voice when talking to them, she tells Christian Cooper exactly what she's doing. It's disturbing. THAT actually is an example of weaponizing white tears. It's true that the situation is more nuanced than many people think it is, but that doesn't undercut that her behavior is very wrong -- at any point in that interaction, she could simply walk away from him if she felt unsafe.

The Citi Bike video is suspect from the start, does not depict what the people attacking the nurse say it does (for instance, he clearly rents the bike while she's sitting on). The nurse does not dial up the cops, she calls for help, and she does so while literally surrounded by a group of men laughing and jeering at her, one of whom is physically pushing against her and trying to get her off the bike. Very different situation.

Just like this situation is not the same as Emmett Till, it is also not the same as Amy Cooper. We should all be able to evaluate different situations based on their individual facts, and not assume that every time a white woman interacts with a black man, the same thing is always happening. Use your brains.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lesson: mobs are bad. There is no good mob. Mobs are never just. Don't join mobs and if any group tells you justice demands you do so, regard them with deep suspicion.

Agree, and one of the reasons people should have questioned the narrative around this video from the start is that it depicts one woman who is surrounded by at least five men. Like that didn't throw up red flags for people immediately? People very quickly landed on "all powerful white woman clearly trying to get young black men killed" without stopping on "tired nurse justifiably freaked out as multiple men surround her and harass her."

The answer to this one is in the video. Which people either did not watch or watched with extreme prejudice, seeing only that her cries sound a little flat and unemotional (not surprising given that she just worked a 12 hour shift in a hospital and is probably unbelievably tired), and just overlooking all the other stuff in the video that make it obvious that she is NOT the aggressor here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Daily Beast now has a story

https://www.thedailybeast.com/nycs-citi-bike-karen-has-the-receipts-lawyer-claims