Physicians Assistant yelling “HELP ME” while stealing a CitiBike ?

[Anonymous]

Ok autocorrect: scarcely considered people. "Karen" dehumanization campaigns has worked. This is their fruit. Congratulations.

[Anonymous]

Here is something to contemplate if you rushed to call this woman a racist Karen and are now realizing maybe you were wrong:

Something similar (but on a much, much, much smaller scale) happened to me about a decade ago. The initial allegation was really awful, and untrue. But the original version of the story that people at my work place and in my social circle heard sounded bad, and made me look awful.

Eventually, the people directly involved with the allegation learned the truth and I was cleared. Technically. But the problem was that before I was cleared, people gossiped. A lot. And not just with the people directly involved in the incident, just with anyone. As a result, a lot of people who had heard the original (and false) version of events, the one that made me sound awful, were people I barely knew. Some of them I didn't know at all.

The person who made the allegation had to recant it, and everyone directly involved in the incident knows the truth. But all that gossip that spilled out into the world, even to people I don't even know and had never met? There was no pulling it back.

To this day, when I meet new people at work or at my kid's school or just out in the world, if there is even the slightest hint that they don't like me or are suspicious of me, I wonder if they have heard this gossip, or a version of it, and assume I'm the terrible person I was portrayed to be. Most of the time, I'm sure this is not the case and I tell myself often to ignore that fear. But it never totally goes away. That story really got away from me, and even the person who originated it, in a way that couldn't be controlled, and there almost certainly people out there who simply do not like me because of it.

I hope some people will read this, and also think about how this story with the nurse unfolded, and think twice before engaging in this kind of behavior again. It is never a bad idea to simply say "I do not have all the facts. I will withhold judgment until I do."

[Anonymous]

I hate the epithet Karen and how it dehumanizes middle-aged whites women.

But, bestowing a name on internet mobs like this might gain traction the way Karen gained traction. And it might change behavior in a good way.

Names have power. No, we shouldn’t cater to the pp’s who keep repeating “progressive POC mob” because a. they’re racists and b. the attacks on this women were from across the spectrum. But calling these mobs something neutral like “Davids” might have more power than simply bemoaning these events?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The internet is relentless. Tik Tok videos showing the local news going to this woman’s apartment, banging on her door, then telling her neighbors about her and that she lived there

Then the videos call on people to contact her employer to have her fired, to the mayor to have her arrested and for citbike to also do something.

THIS is what you’re contributing to. I hope you can live with that.

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTREdLwwS/

Oh wow, I hope the nurse and her attorney are making a list of people to sue. So far, I'm going with: NBC 4 in NY, that reporter, whoever produced that segment, that TikToker, and the "journalist" Monique Judge who published an essay equating the nurse with Carolyn Bryant (the woman who lied about Emmett Till, inciting his murder), and NewsOne, which published it. The NBC affiliate and NewsOne have the deepest pockets.

I don't think she should sue the guys who attacked her, but I do think she should work with the police to prosecute them for assault.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hate the epithet Karen and how it dehumanizes middle-aged whites women.

But, bestowing a name on internet mobs like this might gain traction the way Karen gained traction. And it might change behavior in a good way.

Names have power. No, we shouldn’t cater to the pp’s who keep repeating “progressive POC mob” because a. they’re racists and b. the attacks on this women were from across the spectrum. But calling these mobs something neutral like “Davids” might have more power than simply bemoaning these events?

Not against your suggestion but would like to point out that the vast majority of people I saw jumping on this bandwagon were women. Of all races -- a lot of black women seem to have personalized this story without even watching the video, but I also saw a lot of white women trying to prove their allyship by attacking the nurse (which is classic -- "I can't be racist, look how much I hate this OTHER person who we've all decided is racist").

Men did it, too, but the most vocal critics were all women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The internet is relentless. Tik Tok videos showing the local news going to this woman’s apartment, banging on her door, then telling her neighbors about her and that she lived there

Then the videos call on people to contact her employer to have her fired, to the mayor to have her arrested and for citbike to also do something.

THIS is what you’re contributing to. I hope you can live with that.

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTREdLwwS/

Wow. Wow. TV news is such trash.

[Anonymous]

Do you think any of the major news outlets will recant?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hate the epithet Karen and how it dehumanizes middle-aged whites women.

But, bestowing a name on internet mobs like this might gain traction the way Karen gained traction. And it might change behavior in a good way.

Names have power. No, we shouldn’t cater to the pp’s who keep repeating “progressive POC mob” because a. they’re racists and b. the attacks on this women were from across the spectrum. But calling these mobs something neutral like “Davids” might have more power than simply bemoaning these events?

"I hate this name calling when people do it to people like me, but maybe it could be good if we used name calling against people I don't like" isn't a helpful suggestion. The most helpful thing anyone can do to stop mobs is not be part of them, on whatever side.

[Anonymous]

When I google this, almost every story that comes up contains the old narrative.

I wonder if these news outlets are going to cover the truth as heavily as they covered the lie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you think any of the major news outlets will recant?

Yes as part of their out-of-court settlements.

[Anonymous]

I hope everyone involves feels great about harassing a *pregnant* *nurse* who lives in the *Bronx* and spends twelve hour shifts SIX MONTHS pregnant helping the *poorest New Yorkers.* This woman could end up with a stillbirth due to this episode.

[Anonymous]

I'm not believing either side until I see some CCTV footage of what transpired.

Teens lie all the time.

I fake documents all the time using photoshop and other editing programs.

[Anonymous]

I’m sure we will be hearing from Ben Crump with receipts and CCTV footage by next week.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope everyone involves feels great about harassing a *pregnant* *nurse* who lives in the *Bronx* and spends twelve hour shifts SIX MONTHS pregnant helping the *poorest New Yorkers.* This woman could end up with a stillbirth due to this episode.

I wish her nothing but the best with her pregnancy and home she instead winds up with a cash settlement that she can use to take a nice beach vacation and then send her baby to college. I'm so incensed about this.

Monique Judge, the woman who wrote the essay about how this is exactly the same as Emmett Till (cool cool way to use Emmett Till's name just to prove your petty little point), has already said she simply does not believe the nurse's lawyer. I do hope she gets sued.

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Anonymous wrote:If the lawyer’s account is legitimate, I will happily admit to being wrong. Like any normal person.

Thank you for that. You seem quite sane for DCUM. I’m just waiting for some whacko to move the goalpost yet again. There’s gotta be a way they can reframe it so that they don’t have to admit they were wrong and still make the PA look like she was the aggressor, right?

PP here. Well, sure. There will always be people like that.

Personally, when I saw the video, and how she was acting…the initial account of the story seemed legitimate. But I recognized that they had started taping after the beginning of the confrontation, and that there was context missing. I had thought the missing context was that he was standing there about to reserve the bike when she strolled up and got on, and apparently I was wrong.

Shouldn't common sense tell you a pregnant woman just getting off a long day of work isn't likely to play such games? Really?

No, “common sense” doesn’t tell me how people will or won’t behave towards strangers. Have you met people?

Yes. It's shocking that people like you sit on juries and lack basic common sense and are driven by biases and fantastical thinking. You so wanted to believe the unbelievable here. Why? There was enough information here that things weren't as they appeared.

You are not grasping my point here. People act in nonsensical ways every day. They vote against their best interests. So, no, I don’t assume that every person I see is thinking or operating in the way that I would, because people are different. Understanding that fact does not equate to a lack of common sense.

Then people like you, who can't figure people out, should be the very last to rush to judgment and demand people be named and shamed and fired based on snippets of video.

Um…I didn’t? I’m like one of two people here who was like, “Hey, I thought this one thing at first but am admitting I was wrong”. I certainly never thought she should be fired.

Save the outrage and work on your critical thinking skills instead.

I'm good. You're the one in need of self reflection.

I’m the one who’s capable of admitting when I’m wrong, so yeah…I’m good 👍

You’re not good because you’re part of the problem which is make rash judgments, call for extreme ostracizing and then opps I was wrong. Instead of waiting for all the information. Disgusting.

Dude c’mon, you’re not helping our side with this. They admitted they were wrong. Hopefully they’ve learned a valuable lesson, and won’t rush to judgment moving forward. You can’t continue to attack someone who admits they were wrong.

Appreciate the level-headed take here. PP and the earlier posters calling for blood are two sides of the same coin, so doubt it will make much difference to them.

It's not two sides. The people calling for blood literally went after the PA. Nobody is going after anonymous posters who can't tell real tears from fake tears demanding their jobs.

This is true.