Race in college admissions is back in front of the Supreme Court Oral Argument on Oct. 31 (Monday)

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Seriously? AA isn’t doing any favors by admitting unqualified black applicants into Harvard. What’s the dropout rate of black students in the pre-med track at Harvard? And what is the cost of the insane amount of academic tutoring and other support that Harvard must supply to black admits because they simply don’t have the academic credentials of their peers?

Isn't the hardest thing about Harvard getting in?

Only if you get in fair and square

Like Jared Kushner

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At one point I was pro AA but now I am excited to see it go. I look forward to the 100% Asian student population at Harvard. I might subscribe to cable just so I can watch Tucker Carlson and other conservatives go rabid when this happens. The nightly expositions from Fox News about the sanctity of an American institution being overun by non whites will be gloriously entertaining.

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Anonymous wrote:To the Asian parents in this thread, at the end of the day, all your child's hard and admirable work to get into Harvard will be for nought when your child graduates and experiences the cold reality that anti-Asian racism will always trump that Harvard degree. The same white people who are clamouring to dismantle AA and are touting "meritocracy" will also be the ones promoting unqualified white males and females above your over-qualified Asian child. Don't fool yourself into thinking that meritocracy exists in this country. You too will be cast aside when you've served your purpose as tools of conservative white men. The SFAA case is not for you, is for white men.

Asians are already experiencing enough discrimination.
You certainly don't need to warn them about it. The world will never be perfect. It can only progress. I'm not going to be a crybaby and ask for entitlement but keep asking for fair and equal chances.

You are very naive to think that fairness and equality can ever exist in this country. You've swallowed the model immigrant Flavor Aid.

Have you even ever been to other countries?

I wasn't born in the U.S and I lived in China for for several years. I have also trraveled extensively.

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Anonymous wrote:To the Asian parents in this thread, at the end of the day, all your child's hard and admirable work to get into Harvard will be for nought when your child graduates and experiences the cold reality that anti-Asian racism will always trump that Harvard degree. The same white people who are clamouring to dismantle AA and are touting "meritocracy" will also be the ones promoting unqualified white males and females above your over-qualified Asian child. Don't fool yourself into thinking that meritocracy exists in this country. You too will be cast aside when you've served your purpose as tools of conservative white men. The SFAA case is not for you, is for white men.

Asians are already experiencing enough discrimination.
You certainly don't need to warn them about it. The world will never be perfect. It can only progress. I'm not going to be a crybaby and ask for entitlement but keep asking for fair and equal chances.

You are very naive to think that fairness and equality can ever exist in this country. You've swallowed the model immigrant Flavor Aid.

Have you even ever been to other countries?

I wasn't born in the U.S and I lived in China for for several years. I have also trraveled extensively.

If you are the PP and lived in China and say this than you are not a serious person and definitely not worth engaging.

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Anonymous wrote:To the Asian parents in this thread, at the end of the day, all your child's hard and admirable work to get into Harvard will be for nought when your child graduates and experiences the cold reality that anti-Asian racism will always trump that Harvard degree. The same white people who are clamouring to dismantle AA and are touting "meritocracy" will also be the ones promoting unqualified white males and females above your over-qualified Asian child. Don't fool yourself into thinking that meritocracy exists in this country. You too will be cast aside when you've served your purpose as tools of conservative white men. The SFAA case is not for you, is for white men.

Asians are already experiencing enough discrimination.
You certainly don't need to warn them about it. The world will never be perfect. It can only progress. I'm not going to be a crybaby and ask for entitlement but keep asking for fair and equal chances.

You are very naive to think that fairness and equality can ever exist in this country. You've swallowed the model immigrant Flavor Aid.

Have you even ever been to other countries?

Carry on.
I wasn't born in the U.S and I lived in China for for several years. I have also trraveled extensively.

If you are the PP and lived in China and say this than you are not a serious person and definitely not worth engaging.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At one point I was pro AA but now I am excited to see it go. I look forward to the 100% Asian student population at Harvard. I might subscribe to cable just so I can watch Tucker Carlson and other conservatives go rabid when this happens. The nightly expositions from Fox News about the sanctity of an American institution being overun by non whites will be gloriously entertaining.

It'll self-correct.
Asians probably don't want 100% Asian school, and normally dont want useless majors, so when popular majors are filled up, itll spill over.
SLDC Whites prefer those easy majors.
Probably 60-70% at the top

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To the Asian parents in this thread, at the end of the day, all your child's hard and admirable work to get into Harvard will be for nought when your child graduates and experiences the cold reality that anti-Asian racism will always trump that Harvard degree. The same white people who are clamouring to dismantle AA and are touting "meritocracy" will also be the ones promoting unqualified white males and females above your over-qualified Asian child. Don't fool yourself into thinking that meritocracy exists in this country. You too will be cast aside when you've served your purpose as tools of conservative white men. The SFAA case is not for you, is for white men.

Asians are already experiencing enough discrimination.
You certainly don't need to warn them about it. The world will never be perfect. It can only progress. I'm not going to be a crybaby and ask for entitlement but keep asking for fair and equal chances.

You are very naive to think that fairness and equality can ever exist in this country. You've swallowed the model immigrant Flavor Aid.

Have you even ever been to other countries?

I wasn't born in the U.S and I lived in China for for several years. I have also trraveled extensively.

and which countries are better to live?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To the Asian parents in this thread, at the end of the day, all your child's hard and admirable work to get into Harvard will be for nought when your child graduates and experiences the cold reality that anti-Asian racism will always trump that Harvard degree. The same white people who are clamouring to dismantle AA and are touting "meritocracy" will also be the ones promoting unqualified white males and females above your over-qualified Asian child. Don't fool yourself into thinking that meritocracy exists in this country. You too will be cast aside when you've served your purpose as tools of conservative white men. The SFAA case is not for you, is for white men.

Asians are already experiencing enough discrimination.
You certainly don't need to warn them about it. The world will never be perfect. It can only progress. I'm not going to be a crybaby and ask for entitlement but keep asking for fair and equal chances.

You are very naive to think that fairness and equality can ever exist in this country. You've swallowed the model immigrant Flavor Aid.

Have you even ever been to other countries?

I wasn't born in the U.S and I lived in China for for several years. I have also trraveled extensively.

and which countries are better to live?

This line of questioning is way off topic.

[Anonymous]

It’s sad that blacks are fighting to be treated like children and given extra points on standard sized tests so they can gain admission to top colleges. Why not just earn admission like everybody else?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s sad that blacks are fighting to be treated like children and given extra points on standard sized tests so they can gain admission to top colleges. Why not just earn admission like everybody else?

People have such a narrow view of "earning admission." There are always complaints on DCUM about athletes taking spots. University representatives (coaches) are practically begging those kids to attend and they are in the top few percent of their sport nationwide or even worldwide. Schools are not just looking for 4.0/1600. Based on the case record, the Harvard Admissions Office could clearly use some unconscious bias training though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At one point I was pro AA but now I am excited to see it go. I look forward to the 100% Asian student population at Harvard. I might subscribe to cable just so I can watch Tucker Carlson and other conservatives go rabid when this happens. The nightly expositions from Fox News about the sanctity of an American institution being overun by non whites will be gloriously entertaining.

It'll self-correct.
Asians probably don't want 100% Asian school, and normally dont want useless majors, so when popular majors are filled up, itll spill over.
SLDC Whites prefer those easy majors.
Probably 60-70% at the top

Quite honestly, Harvard won’t let this happen. They won’t ruin their brand. Look at TJ, non-Asians stopped wanting to go there when it became so heavily Asian. People (of all races) like their own race, they don’t want to go somewhere too heavily weighted away from their comfort zone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To the Asian parents in this thread, at the end of the day, all your child's hard and admirable work to get into Harvard will be for nought when your child graduates and experiences the cold reality that anti-Asian racism will always trump that Harvard degree. The same white people who are clamouring to dismantle AA and are touting "meritocracy" will also be the ones promoting unqualified white males and females above your over-qualified Asian child. Don't fool yourself into thinking that meritocracy exists in this country. You too will be cast aside when you've served your purpose as tools of conservative white men. The SFAA case is not for you, is for white men.

Asians are already experiencing enough discrimination.
You certainly don't need to warn them about it. The world will never be perfect. It can only progress. I'm not going to be a crybaby and ask for entitlement but keep asking for fair and equal chances.

You are very naive to think that fairness and equality can ever exist in this country. You've swallowed the model immigrant Flavor Aid.

Have you even ever been to other countries?

I wasn't born in the U.S and I lived in China for for several years. I have also trraveled extensively.

and which countries are better to live?

There is discrimination everywhere. Structurally, the US has more diversity so it’s better than many places in terms of discrimination.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s sad that blacks are fighting to be treated like children and given extra points on standard sized tests so they can gain admission to top colleges. Why not just earn admission like everybody else?

People have such a narrow view of "earning admission." There are always complaints on DCUM about athletes taking spots. University representatives (coaches) are practically begging those kids to attend and they are in the top few percent of their sport nationwide or even worldwide. Schools are not just looking for 4.0/1600. Based on the case record, the Harvard Admissions Office could clearly use some unconscious bias training though.

Agreed.

Diversity of intellect is important to our society. It helps to have intellectually inferior students admitted to college to help provide relative and absolute context regarding the true accomplishments of the broader population. Oftentimes it is difficult to appreciate one’s achievements until compared and contrasted to the astonishingly egregious failures of lesser individuals.

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Why no diversity points of athletes?