FCPS HS Boundary

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Anonymous wrote:The smartest and least distuptive way for FCPS to address Lewis, would be to turn Lewis into a trades/skilled trades magnet, including moving the academy classes at any overcrowded school to Lewis.

Give Lewis zoned kids priority guaranteed placement in the magnet program.

Rezone the remaining students to Edison, Hayfield, Lake Braddock and South County, based strictly on the closest commute. So, for example, Saratoga would go to South County. Crestview would go to Hayfield. Etc. Etc.

Grandfather any current high school students who want to graduate from Lewis. As they graduate, increase the magnate slots for the trades academy.

What about the Lewis zoned students with higher aspirations? Are they just SOL?

PP was ignoring the number of Lewis feeders that would move to West Springfield (with a big move of WSHS kids then required to Lake Braddock).

And the ones that aren't? If you turn a school into a technical academy and still have students in bounds, what happens to kids who want to be on a college track?

Those students are rezoned to Hayfield, Edison, Lake Braddock and South County.

It comes to roughly 100 students or less per grade going to each school. Possibly much less than 100 per grade if many students decide to stay for the magnet school.

I think you over estimate how many parents would choose a technical school, even if you call it a magnet

I think quite a few would choose a magnet trade school. Look at the National trend for college and university attendance. It’s dropping - especially among young men. Graduates of a top notch trade school would be very much in demand by employers and would likely make good money after HS - likely more than the college graduates.

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Anonymous wrote:The smartest and least distuptive way for FCPS to address Lewis, would be to turn Lewis into a trades/skilled trades magnet, including moving the academy classes at any overcrowded school to Lewis.

Give Lewis zoned kids priority guaranteed placement in the magnet program.

Rezone the remaining students to Edison, Hayfield, Lake Braddock and South County, based strictly on the closest commute. So, for example, Saratoga would go to South County. Crestview would go to Hayfield. Etc. Etc.

Grandfather any current high school students who want to graduate from Lewis. As they graduate, increase the magnate slots for the trades academy.

What about the Lewis zoned students with higher aspirations? Are they just SOL?

PP was ignoring the number of Lewis feeders that would move to West Springfield (with a big move of WSHS kids then required to Lake Braddock).

And the ones that aren't? If you turn a school into a technical academy and still have students in bounds, what happens to kids who want to be on a college track?

Those students are rezoned to Hayfield, Edison, Lake Braddock and South County.

It comes to roughly 100 students or less per grade going to each school. Possibly much less than 100 per grade if many students decide to stay for the magnet school.

I think you over estimate how many parents would choose a technical school, even if you call it a magnet

I think quite a few would choose a magnet trade school. Look at the National trend for college and university attendance. It’s dropping - especially among young men. Graduates of a top notch trade school would be very much in demand by employers and would likely make good money after HS - likely more than the college graduates.

look at the lack of demand for current academies in FCPS

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The smartest and least distuptive way for FCPS to address Lewis, would be to turn Lewis into a trades/skilled trades magnet, including moving the academy classes at any overcrowded school to Lewis.

Give Lewis zoned kids priority guaranteed placement in the magnet program.

Rezone the remaining students to Edison, Hayfield, Lake Braddock and South County, based strictly on the closest commute. So, for example, Saratoga would go to South County. Crestview would go to Hayfield. Etc. Etc.

Grandfather any current high school students who want to graduate from Lewis. As they graduate, increase the magnate slots for the trades academy.

What about the Lewis zoned students with higher aspirations? Are they just SOL?

PP was ignoring the number of Lewis feeders that would move to West Springfield (with a big move of WSHS kids then required to Lake Braddock).

WSHS is at capacity, so they would not be involved in the rezoning.

The one exception would be to eliminate the split feeders at Rolling Valley and Sangster, putting all of Sangster at LB and all of Rolling Valley at WS.

This option makes the most sense and is the least disruptive.

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West Springfield would absolutely be involved in the rezoning under this scenario, given its proximity to Lewis. It would simply have a domino effect requiring WS kids to be moved to Lake Braddock.

It's funny how you think FCPS can eviscerate what's left of Lewis as a neighborhood school without it significantly impacting WS as well. Dream on.

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Anonymous wrote:The smartest and least distuptive way for FCPS to address Lewis, would be to turn Lewis into a trades/skilled trades magnet, including moving the academy classes at any overcrowded school to Lewis.

Give Lewis zoned kids priority guaranteed placement in the magnet program.

Rezone the remaining students to Edison, Hayfield, Lake Braddock and South County, based strictly on the closest commute. So, for example, Saratoga would go to South County. Crestview would go to Hayfield. Etc. Etc.

Grandfather any current high school students who want to graduate from Lewis. As they graduate, increase the magnate slots for the trades academy.

What about the Lewis zoned students with higher aspirations? Are they just SOL?

PP was ignoring the number of Lewis feeders that would move to West Springfield (with a big move of WSHS kids then required to Lake Braddock).

And the ones that aren't? If you turn a school into a technical academy and still have students in bounds, what happens to kids who want to be on a college track?

Those students are rezoned to Hayfield, Edison, Lake Braddock and South County.

It comes to roughly 100 students or less per grade going to each school. Possibly much less than 100 per grade if many students decide to stay for the magnet school.

I think you over estimate how many parents would choose a technical school, even if you call it a magnet

I think quite a few would choose a magnet trade school. Look at the National trend for college and university attendance. It’s dropping - especially among young men. Graduates of a top notch trade school would be very much in demand by employers and would likely make good money after HS - likely more than the college graduates.

look at the lack of demand for current academies in FCPS

That’s largely because they’re scattered among different schools and require kids to bus from one school to another during the middle of the day, which is a huge pain. My DS considered attending an academy but quickly rejected the idea when he learned that it would be a logistical nightmare. If CTE programs should be consolidated into a magnet school format instead of shuttling kids from their base schools.

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Anonymous wrote:The smartest and least distuptive way for FCPS to address Lewis, would be to turn Lewis into a trades/skilled trades magnet, including moving the academy classes at any overcrowded school to Lewis.

Give Lewis zoned kids priority guaranteed placement in the magnet program.

Rezone the remaining students to Edison, Hayfield, Lake Braddock and South County, based strictly on the closest commute. So, for example, Saratoga would go to South County. Crestview would go to Hayfield. Etc. Etc.

Grandfather any current high school students who want to graduate from Lewis. As they graduate, increase the magnate slots for the trades academy.

What about the Lewis zoned students with higher aspirations? Are they just SOL?

PP was ignoring the number of Lewis feeders that would move to West Springfield (with a big move of WSHS kids then required to Lake Braddock).

And the ones that aren't? If you turn a school into a technical academy and still have students in bounds, what happens to kids who want to be on a college track?

Those students are rezoned to Hayfield, Edison, Lake Braddock and South County.

It comes to roughly 100 students or less per grade going to each school. Possibly much less than 100 per grade if many students decide to stay for the magnet school.

I think you over estimate how many parents would choose a technical school, even if you call it a magnet

I think quite a few would choose a magnet trade school. Look at the National trend for college and university attendance. It’s dropping - especially among young men. Graduates of a top notch trade school would be very much in demand by employers and would likely make good money after HS - likely more than the college graduates.

look at the lack of demand for current academies in FCPS

That’s largely because they’re scattered among different schools and require kids to bus from one school to another during the middle of the day, which is a huge pain. My DS considered attending an academy but quickly rejected the idea when he learned that it would be a logistical nightmare. If CTE programs should be consolidated into a magnet school format instead of shuttling kids from their base schools.

The academies at base schools where your theory would assume they are popular aren't even popular.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The smartest and least distuptive way for FCPS to address Lewis, would be to turn Lewis into a trades/skilled trades magnet, including moving the academy classes at any overcrowded school to Lewis.

Give Lewis zoned kids priority guaranteed placement in the magnet program.

Rezone the remaining students to Edison, Hayfield, Lake Braddock and South County, based strictly on the closest commute. So, for example, Saratoga would go to South County. Crestview would go to Hayfield. Etc. Etc.

Grandfather any current high school students who want to graduate from Lewis. As they graduate, increase the magnate slots for the trades academy.

Isn't Edison about 2 miles from Lewis? Why would they put another trades/skills option HS so close to each other?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The smartest and least distuptive way for FCPS to address Lewis, would be to turn Lewis into a trades/skilled trades magnet, including moving the academy classes at any overcrowded school to Lewis.

Give Lewis zoned kids priority guaranteed placement in the magnet program.

Rezone the remaining students to Edison, Hayfield, Lake Braddock and South County, based strictly on the closest commute. So, for example, Saratoga would go to South County. Crestview would go to Hayfield. Etc. Etc.

Grandfather any current high school students who want to graduate from Lewis. As they graduate, increase the magnate slots for the trades academy.

Isn't Edison about 2 miles from Lewis? Why would they put another trades/skills option HS so close to each other?

Move the academies from Edison and Mount Vernon and consolidate them at Lewis. Make it a full-time program so that kids aren’t shuttled back and forth from their base schools. Move the kids from Lewis who don’t want to attend a magnet trade school to Edison, Mount Vernon, Hayfield, Annandale, or SoCo.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The smartest and least distuptive way for FCPS to address Lewis, would be to turn Lewis into a trades/skilled trades magnet, including moving the academy classes at any overcrowded school to Lewis.

Give Lewis zoned kids priority guaranteed placement in the magnet program.

Rezone the remaining students to Edison, Hayfield, Lake Braddock and South County, based strictly on the closest commute. So, for example, Saratoga would go to South County. Crestview would go to Hayfield. Etc. Etc.

Grandfather any current high school students who want to graduate from Lewis. As they graduate, increase the magnate slots for the trades academy.

Isn't Edison about 2 miles from Lewis? Why would they put another trades/skills option HS so close to each other?

Move the academies from Edison and Mount Vernon and consolidate them at Lewis. Make it a full-time program so that kids aren’t shuttled back and forth from their base schools. Move the kids from Lewis who don’t want to attend a magnet trade school to Edison, Mount Vernon, Hayfield, Annandale, or SoCo.

The more "ideas" I see that don't involve West Springfield at all, yet would be disruptive to other schools, the more convinced I am that the starting point should be to redistrict West Springfield kids to Lewis. It's the combination of completely insulating West Springfield while imposing burdens and potential overcrowding on other schools that's so over-the-top.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The smartest and least distuptive way for FCPS to address Lewis, would be to turn Lewis into a trades/skilled trades magnet, including moving the academy classes at any overcrowded school to Lewis.

Give Lewis zoned kids priority guaranteed placement in the magnet program.

Rezone the remaining students to Edison, Hayfield, Lake Braddock and South County, based strictly on the closest commute. So, for example, Saratoga would go to South County. Crestview would go to Hayfield. Etc. Etc.

Grandfather any current high school students who want to graduate from Lewis. As they graduate, increase the magnate slots for the trades academy.

Isn't Edison about 2 miles from Lewis? Why would they put another trades/skills option HS so close to each other?

Move the academies from Edison and Mount Vernon and consolidate them at Lewis. Make it a full-time program so that kids aren’t shuttled back and forth from their base schools. Move the kids from Lewis who don’t want to attend a magnet trade school to Edison, Mount Vernon, Hayfield, Annandale, or SoCo.

The more "ideas" I see that don't involve West Springfield at all, yet would be disruptive to other schools, the more convinced I am that the starting point should be to redistrict West Springfield kids to Lewis. It's the combination of completely insulating West Springfield while imposing burdens and potential overcrowding on other schools that's so over-the-top.

Agreed. Take all of the kids south of the FC Parkway as well as Daventry and send them to Lewis. Of course, most of those parents will then just go private, but at least you'll get kids out of WSHS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The smartest and least distuptive way for FCPS to address Lewis, would be to turn Lewis into a trades/skilled trades magnet, including moving the academy classes at any overcrowded school to Lewis.

Give Lewis zoned kids priority guaranteed placement in the magnet program.

Rezone the remaining students to Edison, Hayfield, Lake Braddock and South County, based strictly on the closest commute. So, for example, Saratoga would go to South County. Crestview would go to Hayfield. Etc. Etc.

Grandfather any current high school students who want to graduate from Lewis. As they graduate, increase the magnate slots for the trades academy.

What about the Lewis zoned students with higher aspirations? Are they just SOL?

PP was ignoring the number of Lewis feeders that would move to West Springfield (with a big move of WSHS kids then required to Lake Braddock).

WSHS is at capacity, so they would not be involved in the rezoning.

The one exception would be to eliminate the split feeders at Rolling Valley and Sangster, putting all of Sangster at LB and all of Rolling Valley at WS.

This option makes the most sense and is the least disruptive.

Rezone the Lewis Rolling Valley kids to Saratoga at the elementary level.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The smartest and least distuptive way for FCPS to address Lewis, would be to turn Lewis into a trades/skilled trades magnet, including moving the academy classes at any overcrowded school to Lewis.

Give Lewis zoned kids priority guaranteed placement in the magnet program.

Rezone the remaining students to Edison, Hayfield, Lake Braddock and South County, based strictly on the closest commute. So, for example, Saratoga would go to South County. Crestview would go to Hayfield. Etc. Etc.

Grandfather any current high school students who want to graduate from Lewis. As they graduate, increase the magnate slots for the trades academy.

Isn't Edison about 2 miles from Lewis? Why would they put another trades/skills option HS so close to each other?

Move the academies from Edison and Mount Vernon and consolidate them at Lewis. Make it a full-time program so that kids aren’t shuttled back and forth from their base schools. Move the kids from Lewis who don’t want to attend a magnet trade school to Edison, Mount Vernon, Hayfield, Annandale, or SoCo.

The more "ideas" I see that don't involve West Springfield at all, yet would be disruptive to other schools, the more convinced I am that the starting point should be to redistrict West Springfield kids to Lewis. It's the combination of completely insulating West Springfield while imposing burdens and potential overcrowding on other schools that's so over-the-top.

Agreed. Take all of the kids south of the FC Parkway as well as Daventry and send them to Lewis. Of course, most of those parents will then just go private, but at least you'll get kids out of WSHS.

Why do you want kids out of WSHS so badly? Besides, if you’re looking at capacity + length of bus commute/need for fewer buses, it makes more sense to send at least the south of the parkway kids to South County via probably Newington Forest. And dump the split feeder at Sangster and send all the kids to LB.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The smartest and least distuptive way for FCPS to address Lewis, would be to turn Lewis into a trades/skilled trades magnet, including moving the academy classes at any overcrowded school to Lewis.

Give Lewis zoned kids priority guaranteed placement in the magnet program.

Rezone the remaining students to Edison, Hayfield, Lake Braddock and South County, based strictly on the closest commute. So, for example, Saratoga would go to South County. Crestview would go to Hayfield. Etc. Etc.

Grandfather any current high school students who want to graduate from Lewis. As they graduate, increase the magnate slots for the trades academy.

Isn't Edison about 2 miles from Lewis? Why would they put another trades/skills option HS so close to each other?

Move the academies from Edison and Mount Vernon and consolidate them at Lewis. Make it a full-time program so that kids aren’t shuttled back and forth from their base schools. Move the kids from Lewis who don’t want to attend a magnet trade school to Edison, Mount Vernon, Hayfield, Annandale, or SoCo.

The more "ideas" I see that don't involve West Springfield at all, yet would be disruptive to other schools, the more convinced I am that the starting point should be to redistrict West Springfield kids to Lewis. It's the combination of completely insulating West Springfield while imposing burdens and potential overcrowding on other schools that's so over-the-top.

Agreed. Take all of the kids south of the FC Parkway as well as Daventry and send them to Lewis. Of course, most of those parents will then just go private, but at least you'll get kids out of WSHS.

Why do you want kids out of WSHS so badly? Besides, if you’re looking at capacity + length of bus commute/need for fewer buses, it makes more sense to send at least the south of the parkway kids to South County via probably Newington Forest. And dump the split feeder at Sangster and send all the kids to LB.

How does that help populate Lewis? I thought that's what people were focused on. Lewis is under-populated and we have to find ways to send more kids there to prop it up. I haven't heard WSHS parents complain about school over-crowding but plenty of people are complaining that Lewis doesn't have enough kids. So we're going to redraw boundaries to force more kids over there.

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Anonymous wrote:The smartest and least distuptive way for FCPS to address Lewis, would be to turn Lewis into a trades/skilled trades magnet, including moving the academy classes at any overcrowded school to Lewis.

Give Lewis zoned kids priority guaranteed placement in the magnet program.

Rezone the remaining students to Edison, Hayfield, Lake Braddock and South County, based strictly on the closest commute. So, for example, Saratoga would go to South County. Crestview would go to Hayfield. Etc. Etc.

Grandfather any current high school students who want to graduate from Lewis. As they graduate, increase the magnate slots for the trades academy.

Isn't Edison about 2 miles from Lewis? Why would they put another trades/skills option HS so close to each other?

Move the academies from Edison and Mount Vernon and consolidate them at Lewis. Make it a full-time program so that kids aren’t shuttled back and forth from their base schools. Move the kids from Lewis who don’t want to attend a magnet trade school to Edison, Mount Vernon, Hayfield, Annandale, or SoCo.

The more "ideas" I see that don't involve West Springfield at all, yet would be disruptive to other schools, the more convinced I am that the starting point should be to redistrict West Springfield kids to Lewis. It's the combination of completely insulating West Springfield while imposing burdens and potential overcrowding on other schools that's so over-the-top.

Agreed. Take all of the kids south of the FC Parkway as well as Daventry and send them to Lewis. Of course, most of those parents will then just go private, but at least you'll get kids out of WSHS.

Where are these private schools that can accommodate so many students?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The smartest and least distuptive way for FCPS to address Lewis, would be to turn Lewis into a trades/skilled trades magnet, including moving the academy classes at any overcrowded school to Lewis.

Give Lewis zoned kids priority guaranteed placement in the magnet program.

Rezone the remaining students to Edison, Hayfield, Lake Braddock and South County, based strictly on the closest commute. So, for example, Saratoga would go to South County. Crestview would go to Hayfield. Etc. Etc.

Grandfather any current high school students who want to graduate from Lewis. As they graduate, increase the magnate slots for the trades academy.

Isn't Edison about 2 miles from Lewis? Why would they put another trades/skills option HS so close to each other?

Move the academies from Edison and Mount Vernon and consolidate them at Lewis. Make it a full-time program so that kids aren’t shuttled back and forth from their base schools. Move the kids from Lewis who don’t want to attend a magnet trade school to Edison, Mount Vernon, Hayfield, Annandale, or SoCo.

The more "ideas" I see that don't involve West Springfield at all, yet would be disruptive to other schools, the more convinced I am that the starting point should be to redistrict West Springfield kids to Lewis. It's the combination of completely insulating West Springfield while imposing burdens and potential overcrowding on other schools that's so over-the-top.

Agreed. Take all of the kids south of the FC Parkway as well as Daventry and send them to Lewis. Of course, most of those parents will then just go private, but at least you'll get kids out of WSHS.

Where are these private schools that can accommodate so many students?

You won't need them. Because if 200+ kids a year are pupil placing out of Lewis now, the WSHS kids they want to dump over there will do the same thing. I have no idea how many kids we're talking about, but what, 200-300 more?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The smartest and least distuptive way for FCPS to address Lewis, would be to turn Lewis into a trades/skilled trades magnet, including moving the academy classes at any overcrowded school to Lewis.

Give Lewis zoned kids priority guaranteed placement in the magnet program.

Rezone the remaining students to Edison, Hayfield, Lake Braddock and South County, based strictly on the closest commute. So, for example, Saratoga would go to South County. Crestview would go to Hayfield. Etc. Etc.

Grandfather any current high school students who want to graduate from Lewis. As they graduate, increase the magnate slots for the trades academy.

Isn't Edison about 2 miles from Lewis? Why would they put another trades/skills option HS so close to each other?

Move the academies from Edison and Mount Vernon and consolidate them at Lewis. Make it a full-time program so that kids aren’t shuttled back and forth from their base schools. Move the kids from Lewis who don’t want to attend a magnet trade school to Edison, Mount Vernon, Hayfield, Annandale, or SoCo.

The more "ideas" I see that don't involve West Springfield at all, yet would be disruptive to other schools, the more convinced I am that the starting point should be to redistrict West Springfield kids to Lewis. It's the combination of completely insulating West Springfield while imposing burdens and potential overcrowding on other schools that's so over-the-top.

Agreed. Take all of the kids south of the FC Parkway as well as Daventry and send them to Lewis. Of course, most of those parents will then just go private, but at least you'll get kids out of WSHS.

Why do you want kids out of WSHS so badly? Besides, if you’re looking at capacity + length of bus commute/need for fewer buses, it makes more sense to send at least the south of the parkway kids to South County via probably Newington Forest. And dump the split feeder at Sangster and send all the kids to LB.

How does that help populate Lewis? I thought that's what people were focused on. Lewis is under-populated and we have to find ways to send more kids there to prop it up. I haven't heard WSHS parents complain about school over-crowding but plenty of people are complaining that Lewis doesn't have enough kids. So we're going to redraw boundaries to force more kids over there.

Or maybe instead of bickering over whose kids should get screwed in a county redistricting, perhaps we should all just admit that the redistricting would be a colossal mistake and that redistricting arbitrarily picks winners and losers.