Kyle Rittenhouse: Vigilante White Men

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Anybody know how many of the rioters and looters were convicted?

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Anonymous wrote:This country needs more Kyles

Yes. Somehow a mob setting fires, rioting, etc, are the good guys in this scenario according to dcum.

Kyle ran away from Rosenbaum after Rosenbaum threatened to kill him and lunged for his gun; a 17 year old chased into a dark area by a convicted sex offender who sodomized boys; Kyle was yelling “friendly” and Rosenbaum was yelling the n word…but Rosenbaum is the good guy.

Then after Kyle defended himself the crowd (mob) attacked him. You don’t need disarming after you use your weapon in self defense. Cops were right there, they could have dealt with Kyle. The guy that got his arm shot by Kyle had a gun and tried to use it on Kyle. Another convicted felon too. All these convicted felons out fighting for justice, right?

The mob setting fires and looting all knew that killing someone is a worse crime. The bomb didn't kill anyone.

We make distinctions between unarmed and armed burglary, because no matter how many fires you set, no matter how many convenience stores you rob, killing a person is worse. The worst crime.

Rosenbaum was a convicted pedo who sodomized boys. Killing him honestly was not the worst crime.

Had Rittenhouse known about Rosenbaum’s pedophilia, he could incorporate it into his defense, but Rittenhouse didn’t know about it, so his charges are the same whether Rosenbaum was a decorated war hero of unimpeachable character or a lowlife scumbag pedophile.

I agree. But Rosenbaum had been tweaking and acting insane all night at that location in full view of everyone present. He was very unstable and was acting erratically. Nobody knew his criminal background; but plainly he was not a good person.

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Anonymous wrote:Anybody know how many of the rioters and looters were convicted?

This guy and his wife (acquaintances of Rosenbaum) are in process. He shot a gun into the air that ppl here are trying to say Kyle did. They also set a dumpster on fire. Rosenbaum, this lovely individual, and his wife were setting a dumpster on fire when Kyle was walking past.

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Here his is with his wife Methany.

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Kyle went to the protest to kill people, hence the gun.

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Anonymous wrote:Kyle went to the protest to kill people, hence the gun.

Listen to today’s NYT daily podcast and educate yourself. Or continue to be an ill-informed imbecile. Your choice.

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The people who were shot are indirectly on trial. The whole trial is about one simple question: “was Rittenhouse in reasonable fear of serious bodily harm from a situation he didn’t directly cause”

And no, simply being there with a rifle was not causing the situation. You may not like him. You may hate his ideology and politics. You may think he’s a trouble maker. But none of that matters because in this country the law is supposed to apply with equal force to all. And the law especially applies to the people society hates most. A lot of lawyers saw much of the video footage and thought it was a text book self defense claim. A lot thought it was worthy of trying him for murder. But I’d encourage everyone to be more open minded about this because there is a really decent chance that Rittenhouse is going to walk out if they court room a free man who exercised his self defense rights.

No, no he wasn't. HE caused it. He was there illegally, crossing state lines essentially with an illegal weapon in the state of Wisconsin.

Being there illegally having crossed state lines in possession of an illegal firearm would not be enough to nullify his self-defense claim.

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Anonymous wrote:Not a lawyer, but a serious question. When arguing Rittenhouse acted in self defense, can Rosenbaum’s history of being a convicted child molester be brought in front of the jury because he chased a teenage boy into a dark parking lot and cornered him? I know there is no way for Rittenhouse to have known that, but I just can’t see a case where a judge would disallow bringing up that a man who a woman killed in self defense was a convicted serial rapist in the same set of circumstances if the woman in question was on trial for murder.

It can be mentioned if it’s relevant to the case being tried. In this case, it’s not relevant.

+1. Rittenhouse knew nothing about Rosenbaum’s background in that regard so there is no way it could have factored into his assessment of the threat he believed he faced.

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Anonymous wrote:Not a lawyer, but a serious question. When arguing Rittenhouse acted in self defense, can Rosenbaum’s history of being a convicted child molester be brought in front of the jury because he chased a teenage boy into a dark parking lot and cornered him? I know there is no way for Rittenhouse to have known that, but I just can’t see a case where a judge would disallow bringing up that a man who a woman killed in self defense was a convicted serial rapist in the same set of circumstances if the woman in question was on trial for murder.

It really has no materiality to the case. It would not affect Rittenhouse's mens rea, given that Rosenbaum was a complete stranger.

This trial is really about Rittenhouse's mens rea - his intention when committing the criminal acts.

Now that I'm hearing the testimony, I think there's a very good chance Rittenhouse will be acquitted of the Rosenbaum killing but be convicted of harming the other two men. Why? Because the rest of the crowd believed him to be an unhinged shooter.

There is also the fact that Rittenhouse pointed the weapon and he was illegally open-carrying as a minor. Unfortunately for Rittenhouse he started the chain of events of by being the first to commit a crime.

If you combine the testimony with video it is hard to see how he doesn’t get acquitted on all shooting counts. The two who were subsequently shot chased him a full block when Rittenhouse was clearly retreating. The second man killed swung a skateboard at R’s head while R was defenseless on the ground. The last guy shot approached R with a handgun drawn while R was still on the ground. Even if the crowd thought they were in arming an unhinged mass shooter, that wouldn’t have any bearing on R’s self defense claim.

Arguing that he started the chain of events in the way you are calling this a chain of events won’t nullify his self defense claim. Pointing to his bad behavior is like arguing that an underage drinker in a bar has no self-defense rights. That’s obviously a silly argument.

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Anonymous wrote:Kyle Rittenhouse walked in there with an AR 15-style rifle because he wanted people to feel threatened and intimidated. He wanted people to fear for their lives. Anything that happened from there was self-defense by the people he was deliberately threatening.

Why didn’t the police arrest Kyle when he was walking around with his weapon?

Probably for the same white supremacist reasons as always. It was an absolute dereliction of duty to let someone wander around intimidating people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anybody know how many of the rioters and looters were convicted?

All the right wingers like Rittenhouse who showed up to make trouble? Should be all of them. Clearly the police were enjoying the mayhem.

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So Kyle went to the riot to kill people; these leftists went with concealed handguns to protect people?

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Anonymous wrote:Anybody know how many of the rioters and looters were convicted?

All the right wingers like Rittenhouse who showed up to make trouble? Should be all of them. Clearly the police were enjoying the mayhem.

Showed up to a riot, burning, and looting to make what trouble?

Totally ignore the leftists who were making trouble, nice.

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Anonymous wrote:Anybody know how many of the rioters and looters were convicted?

All the right wingers like Rittenhouse who showed up to make trouble? Should be all of them. Clearly the police were enjoying the mayhem.

Showed up to a riot, burning, and looting to make what trouble?

Totally ignore the leftists who were making trouble, nice.

Look at arrests and charges. Look who was behind it. Right wingers, all across the country.

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Let's face facts, if anyone except a white rightwinger did what Rittenhouse did, conservatives would be screaming that he should be hanged. But because it's a member of their team who did the killing they're cool with it.