Trapped/Re-aging Families, How are you having the conversation?

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Anonymous wrote:If your kid is a D1 potential quality player, none of this matters

This is for folks trying to make a turtle win the Kentucky Derby

True but D1 caliber young Aug/Sept players will be playing up with their grade. Because of this top teams will be grouped by grade.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like Rush understand that if young Aug/Sept birthdays plan to get recruited and play in college that they need to "play up" with their grade. Thats a lot of words to address something that isnt a big deal.

Its like going into a tire shop at the end of summer and the salesperson keeps pushing you to the snow tire section. Sure they'll sell you anything you want but they're also trying to gently hint that with winter coming you would probably want to buy snow tires.

The more parents understand that you cant get recruited for college while playing down a grade the more they'll demand that their kid plays on the correct grade team.

Fomo is just how soccer moms work and because of it they wont want their kid playing down a grade. Unless their kid literally has no chance at playing in college. In that case it doesnt matter. But it will piss off A team parents that are playing the correct grade. Which will eventually out your kid on the B team and playing down.

I love when Delusional August Guy responds to himself. The clubs are telling you what they are going to do. Yet you continue to skip your meds, put your fingers in your ears, act a fool and blabber.

The person you keep going after is 100% correct. You're the only one that doesnt get it. Why would a club play players on a grade lower team? Especially if they want them to play in college. It doesnt make any sense.

It's because they want to put together the best teams, they need to compete with teams that will play everyone on age, they want simple rules to follow, they are following the advice of leagues, they only want the very best kids playing up regardless of grade, they know putting kids a year up puts them at a disadvantage for playing time/positions and the big one is that kids leave teams every year so teams aren't realistically going to keep a kid for more than a few years. Clubs know what they are doing on this one.

What's funny about this person's concern with players playing with kids a grade younger than them is that it is way way way more common right fricking now, under the current system! Every top team I am aware of has kids from multiple grades on it, and no one cares.

But somehow, under the seasonal system, wherein far fewer players will be playing with kids a grade younger than them, it is a major issue worth spending 50 pages on. Plus, we have link after link after link with clubs explicitly saying they are forming teams by age range, not grade, and the dude still won't stop.

You are such a sneaky lier.

Yes there are multiple grades playing in a BY showcase. This is because in BY theres more trapped players than in SY. Also the players that you see in the BY "wrong g" grade are playing up. With SY and young Aug/Sept players they would be playing down. This is a HUGE difference.

Players playing up a grade are recruitable

Players playing down a grade are not recruitable.

It really is this simple.

This will only make sense when all parents realize that not every kid is recruitable. Not every kid is going to play in college. Not every kid is going to play D1

How many parents you know will want their kid grouped into a situation that more likely wont get recruited for playing in college.

All because the club values short term wins over long term development?

Your kid's development is your responsibility
Why would you sit them at a club doing nothing for them?

This is exactly the arguement.

One person is trying to explain why you dont want to play down. (college recruiting)

The other person is trying to convince people that playing down is no big deal.

Ask yourself. If you were a college coach and your job depended on wins would you be looking to roster players that are playing down a grade against younger players than their grade in school?

See how it works? It makes sense to group players by grade as young as possible to set them up for being recruited to play in college when theyre older.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like Rush understand that if young Aug/Sept birthdays plan to get recruited and play in college that they need to "play up" with their grade. Thats a lot of words to address something that isnt a big deal.

Its like going into a tire shop at the end of summer and the salesperson keeps pushing you to the snow tire section. Sure they'll sell you anything you want but they're also trying to gently hint that with winter coming you would probably want to buy snow tires.

The more parents understand that you cant get recruited for college while playing down a grade the more they'll demand that their kid plays on the correct grade team.

Fomo is just how soccer moms work and because of it they wont want their kid playing down a grade. Unless their kid literally has no chance at playing in college. In that case it doesnt matter. But it will piss off A team parents that are playing the correct grade. Which will eventually out your kid on the B team and playing down.

I love when Delusional August Guy responds to himself. The clubs are telling you what they are going to do. Yet you continue to skip your meds, put your fingers in your ears, act a fool and blabber.

The person you keep going after is 100% correct. You're the only one that doesnt get it. Why would a club play players on a grade lower team? Especially if they want them to play in college. It doesnt make any sense.

It's because they want to put together the best teams, they need to compete with teams that will play everyone on age, they want simple rules to follow, they are following the advice of leagues, they only want the very best kids playing up regardless of grade, they know putting kids a year up puts them at a disadvantage for playing time/positions and the big one is that kids leave teams every year so teams aren't realistically going to keep a kid for more than a few years. Clubs know what they are doing on this one.

What's funny about this person's concern with players playing with kids a grade younger than them is that it is way way way more common right fricking now, under the current system! Every top team I am aware of has kids from multiple grades on it, and no one cares.

But somehow, under the seasonal system, wherein far fewer players will be playing with kids a grade younger than them, it is a major issue worth spending 50 pages on. Plus, we have link after link after link with clubs explicitly saying they are forming teams by age range, not grade, and the dude still won't stop.

You are such a sneaky lier.

Yes there are multiple grades playing in a BY showcase. This is because in BY theres more trapped players than in SY. Also the players that you see in the BY "wrong g" grade are playing up. With SY and young Aug/Sept players they would be playing down. This is a HUGE difference.

Players playing up a grade are recruitable

Players playing down a grade are not recruitable.

It really is this simple.

This will only make sense when all parents realize that not every kid is recruitable. Not every kid is going to play in college. Not every kid is going to play D1

How many parents you know will want their kid grouped into a situation that more likely wont get recruited for playing in college.

All because the club values short term wins over long term development?

Your kid's development is your responsibility
Why would you sit them at a club doing nothing for them?

This is exactly the arguement.

One person is trying to explain why you dont want to play down. (college recruiting)

The other person is trying to convince people that playing down is no big deal.

Ask yourself. If you were a college coach and your job depended on wins would you be looking to roster players that are playing down a grade against younger players than their grade in school?

See how it works? It makes sense to group players by grade as young as possible to set them up for being recruited to play in college when theyre older.

There are a few problems Delusional August Guy. First, you still don't understand college recruiting. Like, at all. Second, you don't understand youth soccer clubs. Again, like at all. Finally, you are off your meds again and just making things up. Clubs have always formed teams based on the age group window. They did this pre-BY, during BY, and will now do it again post-BY. The clubs are all posting statements on their own websites telling you this. But you and your narcissism (or delusion) just can't accept it. That's fine. No one (except the voices in your head who occasionally make an appearance here) believes you at this point. Go over to the talk-soccer forums and do this there. You may win some converts to your cult.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If your kid is a D1 potential quality player, none of this matters

This is for folks trying to make a turtle win the Kentucky Derby

True but D1 caliber young Aug/Sept players will be playing up with their grade. Because of this top teams will be grouped by grade.

The cutoff and age grouping is done be age.
Month and year of birth

Just like Birth Year today, but with a shift from 1/1 to 8/1
Grade irrelevant today. Will be irrelevant next season

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like Rush understand that if young Aug/Sept birthdays plan to get recruited and play in college that they need to "play up" with their grade. Thats a lot of words to address something that isnt a big deal.

Its like going into a tire shop at the end of summer and the salesperson keeps pushing you to the snow tire section. Sure they'll sell you anything you want but they're also trying to gently hint that with winter coming you would probably want to buy snow tires.

The more parents understand that you cant get recruited for college while playing down a grade the more they'll demand that their kid plays on the correct grade team.

Fomo is just how soccer moms work and because of it they wont want their kid playing down a grade. Unless their kid literally has no chance at playing in college. In that case it doesnt matter. But it will piss off A team parents that are playing the correct grade. Which will eventually out your kid on the B team and playing down.

I love when Delusional August Guy responds to himself. The clubs are telling you what they are going to do. Yet you continue to skip your meds, put your fingers in your ears, act a fool and blabber.

The person you keep going after is 100% correct. You're the only one that doesnt get it. Why would a club play players on a grade lower team? Especially if they want them to play in college. It doesnt make any sense.

It's because they want to put together the best teams, they need to compete with teams that will play everyone on age, they want simple rules to follow, they are following the advice of leagues, they only want the very best kids playing up regardless of grade, they know putting kids a year up puts them at a disadvantage for playing time/positions and the big one is that kids leave teams every year so teams aren't realistically going to keep a kid for more than a few years. Clubs know what they are doing on this one.

What's funny about this person's concern with players playing with kids a grade younger than them is that it is way way way more common right fricking now, under the current system! Every top team I am aware of has kids from multiple grades on it, and no one cares.

But somehow, under the seasonal system, wherein far fewer players will be playing with kids a grade younger than them, it is a major issue worth spending 50 pages on. Plus, we have link after link after link with clubs explicitly saying they are forming teams by age range, not grade, and the dude still won't stop.

You are such a sneaky lier.

Yes there are multiple grades playing in a BY showcase. This is because in BY theres more trapped players than in SY. Also the players that you see in the BY "wrong g" grade are playing up. With SY and young Aug/Sept players they would be playing down. This is a HUGE difference.

Players playing up a grade are recruitable

Players playing down a grade are not recruitable.

It really is this simple.

This will only make sense when all parents realize that not every kid is recruitable. Not every kid is going to play in college. Not every kid is going to play D1

How many parents you know will want their kid grouped into a situation that more likely wont get recruited for playing in college.

All because the club values short term wins over long term development?

Your kid's development is your responsibility
Why would you sit them at a club doing nothing for them?

This is exactly the arguement.

One person is trying to explain why you dont want to play down. (college recruiting)

The other person is trying to convince people that playing down is no big deal.

Ask yourself. If you were a college coach and your job depended on wins would you be looking to roster players that are playing down a grade against younger players than their grade in school?

See how it works? It makes sense to group players by grade as young as possible to set them up for being recruited to play in college when theyre older.

College doesn't care about grade
Only graduating year

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like Rush understand that if young Aug/Sept birthdays plan to get recruited and play in college that they need to "play up" with their grade. Thats a lot of words to address something that isnt a big deal.

Its like going into a tire shop at the end of summer and the salesperson keeps pushing you to the snow tire section. Sure they'll sell you anything you want but they're also trying to gently hint that with winter coming you would probably want to buy snow tires.

The more parents understand that you cant get recruited for college while playing down a grade the more they'll demand that their kid plays on the correct grade team.

Fomo is just how soccer moms work and because of it they wont want their kid playing down a grade. Unless their kid literally has no chance at playing in college. In that case it doesnt matter. But it will piss off A team parents that are playing the correct grade. Which will eventually out your kid on the B team and playing down.

I love when Delusional August Guy responds to himself. The clubs are telling you what they are going to do. Yet you continue to skip your meds, put your fingers in your ears, act a fool and blabber.

The person you keep going after is 100% correct. You're the only one that doesnt get it. Why would a club play players on a grade lower team? Especially if they want them to play in college. It doesnt make any sense.

It's because they want to put together the best teams, they need to compete with teams that will play everyone on age, they want simple rules to follow, they are following the advice of leagues, they only want the very best kids playing up regardless of grade, they know putting kids a year up puts them at a disadvantage for playing time/positions and the big one is that kids leave teams every year so teams aren't realistically going to keep a kid for more than a few years. Clubs know what they are doing on this one.

What's funny about this person's concern with players playing with kids a grade younger than them is that it is way way way more common right fricking now, under the current system! Every top team I am aware of has kids from multiple grades on it, and no one cares.

But somehow, under the seasonal system, wherein far fewer players will be playing with kids a grade younger than them, it is a major issue worth spending 50 pages on. Plus, we have link after link after link with clubs explicitly saying they are forming teams by age range, not grade, and the dude still won't stop.

You are such a sneaky lier.

Yes there are multiple grades playing in a BY showcase. This is because in BY theres more trapped players than in SY. Also the players that you see in the BY "wrong g" grade are playing up. With SY and young Aug/Sept players they would be playing down. This is a HUGE difference.

Players playing up a grade are recruitable

Players playing down a grade are not recruitable.

It really is this simple.

This will only make sense when all parents realize that not every kid is recruitable. Not every kid is going to play in college. Not every kid is going to play D1

How many parents you know will want their kid grouped into a situation that more likely wont get recruited for playing in college.

All because the club values short term wins over long term development?

Your kid's development is your responsibility
Why would you sit them at a club doing nothing for them?

This is exactly the arguement.

One person is trying to explain why you dont want to play down. (college recruiting)

The other person is trying to convince people that playing down is no big deal.

Ask yourself. If you were a college coach and your job depended on wins would you be looking to roster players that are playing down a grade against younger players than their grade in school?

See how it works? It makes sense to group players by grade as young as possible to set them up for being recruited to play in college when theyre older.

College doesn't care about grade
Only graduating year

True. However...

Grouping by grade is the same thing as grouping by graduating year.

[Anonymous]

Its going to be entertaining when ECNL posts rosters next season and all the top teams will be grouped by grade / graduation year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Its going to be entertaining when ECNL posts rosters next season and all the top teams will be grouped by grade / graduation year.

Sure will Delusional August Guy. Sure will.

Can't wait to see all the ECNL tryouts by grade posted here first. Do you have any to post?

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like Rush understand that if young Aug/Sept birthdays plan to get recruited and play in college that they need to "play up" with their grade. Thats a lot of words to address something that isnt a big deal.

Its like going into a tire shop at the end of summer and the salesperson keeps pushing you to the snow tire section. Sure they'll sell you anything you want but they're also trying to gently hint that with winter coming you would probably want to buy snow tires.

The more parents understand that you cant get recruited for college while playing down a grade the more they'll demand that their kid plays on the correct grade team.

Fomo is just how soccer moms work and because of it they wont want their kid playing down a grade. Unless their kid literally has no chance at playing in college. In that case it doesnt matter. But it will piss off A team parents that are playing the correct grade. Which will eventually out your kid on the B team and playing down.

I love when Delusional August Guy responds to himself. The clubs are telling you what they are going to do. Yet you continue to skip your meds, put your fingers in your ears, act a fool and blabber.

The person you keep going after is 100% correct. You're the only one that doesnt get it. Why would a club play players on a grade lower team? Especially if they want them to play in college. It doesnt make any sense.

It's because they want to put together the best teams, they need to compete with teams that will play everyone on age, they want simple rules to follow, they are following the advice of leagues, they only want the very best kids playing up regardless of grade, they know putting kids a year up puts them at a disadvantage for playing time/positions and the big one is that kids leave teams every year so teams aren't realistically going to keep a kid for more than a few years. Clubs know what they are doing on this one.

What's funny about this person's concern with players playing with kids a grade younger than them is that it is way way way more common right fricking now, under the current system! Every top team I am aware of has kids from multiple grades on it, and no one cares.

But somehow, under the seasonal system, wherein far fewer players will be playing with kids a grade younger than them, it is a major issue worth spending 50 pages on. Plus, we have link after link after link with clubs explicitly saying they are forming teams by age range, not grade, and the dude still won't stop.

You are such a sneaky lier.

Yes there are multiple grades playing in a BY showcase. This is because in BY theres more trapped players than in SY. Also the players that you see in the BY "wrong g" grade are playing up. With SY and young Aug/Sept players they would be playing down. This is a HUGE difference.

Players playing up a grade are recruitable

Players playing down a grade are not recruitable.

It really is this simple.

This will only make sense when all parents realize that not every kid is recruitable. Not every kid is going to play in college. Not every kid is going to play D1

How many parents you know will want their kid grouped into a situation that more likely wont get recruited for playing in college.

All because the club values short term wins over long term development?

Your kid's development is your responsibility
Why would you sit them at a club doing nothing for them?

This is exactly the arguement.

One person is trying to explain why you dont want to play down. (college recruiting)

The other person is trying to convince people that playing down is no big deal.

Ask yourself. If you were a college coach and your job depended on wins would you be looking to roster players that are playing down a grade against younger players than their grade in school?

See how it works? It makes sense to group players by grade as young as possible to set them up for being recruited to play in college when theyre older.

College doesn't care about grade
Only graduating year

True. However...

Grouping by grade is the same thing as grouping by graduating year.

Teams aren't grouped by graduating year now nutjob, and recruiting is happening without issue

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like Rush understand that if young Aug/Sept birthdays plan to get recruited and play in college that they need to "play up" with their grade. Thats a lot of words to address something that isnt a big deal.

Its like going into a tire shop at the end of summer and the salesperson keeps pushing you to the snow tire section. Sure they'll sell you anything you want but they're also trying to gently hint that with winter coming you would probably want to buy snow tires.

The more parents understand that you cant get recruited for college while playing down a grade the more they'll demand that their kid plays on the correct grade team.

Fomo is just how soccer moms work and because of it they wont want their kid playing down a grade. Unless their kid literally has no chance at playing in college. In that case it doesnt matter. But it will piss off A team parents that are playing the correct grade. Which will eventually out your kid on the B team and playing down.

I love when Delusional August Guy responds to himself. The clubs are telling you what they are going to do. Yet you continue to skip your meds, put your fingers in your ears, act a fool and blabber.

The person you keep going after is 100% correct. You're the only one that doesnt get it. Why would a club play players on a grade lower team? Especially if they want them to play in college. It doesnt make any sense.

It's because they want to put together the best teams, they need to compete with teams that will play everyone on age, they want simple rules to follow, they are following the advice of leagues, they only want the very best kids playing up regardless of grade, they know putting kids a year up puts them at a disadvantage for playing time/positions and the big one is that kids leave teams every year so teams aren't realistically going to keep a kid for more than a few years. Clubs know what they are doing on this one.

What's funny about this person's concern with players playing with kids a grade younger than them is that it is way way way more common right fricking now, under the current system! Every top team I am aware of has kids from multiple grades on it, and no one cares.

But somehow, under the seasonal system, wherein far fewer players will be playing with kids a grade younger than them, it is a major issue worth spending 50 pages on. Plus, we have link after link after link with clubs explicitly saying they are forming teams by age range, not grade, and the dude still won't stop.

You are such a sneaky lier.

Yes there are multiple grades playing in a BY showcase. This is because in BY theres more trapped players than in SY. Also the players that you see in the BY "wrong g" grade are playing up. With SY and young Aug/Sept players they would be playing down. This is a HUGE difference.

Players playing up a grade are recruitable

Players playing down a grade are not recruitable.

It really is this simple.

This will only make sense when all parents realize that not every kid is recruitable. Not every kid is going to play in college. Not every kid is going to play D1

How many parents you know will want their kid grouped into a situation that more likely wont get recruited for playing in college.

All because the club values short term wins over long term development?

The oldest in an age group has much higher odds of college play than youngest. It's what the stats and studies show, not opinion, not up for debate.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like Rush understand that if young Aug/Sept birthdays plan to get recruited and play in college that they need to "play up" with their grade. Thats a lot of words to address something that isnt a big deal.

Its like going into a tire shop at the end of summer and the salesperson keeps pushing you to the snow tire section. Sure they'll sell you anything you want but they're also trying to gently hint that with winter coming you would probably want to buy snow tires.

The more parents understand that you cant get recruited for college while playing down a grade the more they'll demand that their kid plays on the correct grade team.

Fomo is just how soccer moms work and because of it they wont want their kid playing down a grade. Unless their kid literally has no chance at playing in college. In that case it doesnt matter. But it will piss off A team parents that are playing the correct grade. Which will eventually out your kid on the B team and playing down.

I love when Delusional August Guy responds to himself. The clubs are telling you what they are going to do. Yet you continue to skip your meds, put your fingers in your ears, act a fool and blabber.

The person you keep going after is 100% correct. You're the only one that doesnt get it. Why would a club play players on a grade lower team? Especially if they want them to play in college. It doesnt make any sense.

It's because they want to put together the best teams, they need to compete with teams that will play everyone on age, they want simple rules to follow, they are following the advice of leagues, they only want the very best kids playing up regardless of grade, they know putting kids a year up puts them at a disadvantage for playing time/positions and the big one is that kids leave teams every year so teams aren't realistically going to keep a kid for more than a few years. Clubs know what they are doing on this one.

What's funny about this person's concern with players playing with kids a grade younger than them is that it is way way way more common right fricking now, under the current system! Every top team I am aware of has kids from multiple grades on it, and no one cares.

But somehow, under the seasonal system, wherein far fewer players will be playing with kids a grade younger than them, it is a major issue worth spending 50 pages on. Plus, we have link after link after link with clubs explicitly saying they are forming teams by age range, not grade, and the dude still won't stop.

You are such a sneaky lier.

Yes there are multiple grades playing in a BY showcase. This is because in BY theres more trapped players than in SY. Also the players that you see in the BY "wrong g" grade are playing up. With SY and young Aug/Sept players they would be playing down. This is a HUGE difference.

Players playing up a grade are recruitable

Players playing down a grade are not recruitable.

It really is this simple.

This will only make sense when all parents realize that not every kid is recruitable. Not every kid is going to play in college. Not every kid is going to play D1

How many parents you know will want their kid grouped into a situation that more likely wont get recruited for playing in college.

All because the club values short term wins over long term development?

Your kid's development is your responsibility
Why would you sit them at a club doing nothing for them?

This is exactly the arguement.

One person is trying to explain why you dont want to play down. (college recruiting)

The other person is trying to convince people that playing down is no big deal.

Ask yourself. If you were a college coach and your job depended on wins would you be looking to roster players that are playing down a grade against younger players than their grade in school?

See how it works? It makes sense to group players by grade as young as possible to set them up for being recruited to play in college when theyre older.

College coaches know how to evaluate players so they would take the best players regardless of other players on the field. Being the youngest in the age group is a ticket to playing another sport not college soccer. Just have your DD play up to avoid the August girl you don't like.

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Anyone going to mention the first two tiers of boys college recruiting are MLS Club academies then MLS Next teams
Both are BY and school grades are not on anyone's radar

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like Rush understand that if young Aug/Sept birthdays plan to get recruited and play in college that they need to "play up" with their grade. Thats a lot of words to address something that isnt a big deal.

Its like going into a tire shop at the end of summer and the salesperson keeps pushing you to the snow tire section. Sure they'll sell you anything you want but they're also trying to gently hint that with winter coming you would probably want to buy snow tires.

The more parents understand that you cant get recruited for college while playing down a grade the more they'll demand that their kid plays on the correct grade team.

Fomo is just how soccer moms work and because of it they wont want their kid playing down a grade. Unless their kid literally has no chance at playing in college. In that case it doesnt matter. But it will piss off A team parents that are playing the correct grade. Which will eventually out your kid on the B team and playing down.

I love when Delusional August Guy responds to himself. The clubs are telling you what they are going to do. Yet you continue to skip your meds, put your fingers in your ears, act a fool and blabber.

The person you keep going after is 100% correct. You're the only one that doesnt get it. Why would a club play players on a grade lower team? Especially if they want them to play in college. It doesnt make any sense.

It's because they want to put together the best teams, they need to compete with teams that will play everyone on age, they want simple rules to follow, they are following the advice of leagues, they only want the very best kids playing up regardless of grade, they know putting kids a year up puts them at a disadvantage for playing time/positions and the big one is that kids leave teams every year so teams aren't realistically going to keep a kid for more than a few years. Clubs know what they are doing on this one.

What's funny about this person's concern with players playing with kids a grade younger than them is that it is way way way more common right fricking now, under the current system! Every top team I am aware of has kids from multiple grades on it, and no one cares.

But somehow, under the seasonal system, wherein far fewer players will be playing with kids a grade younger than them, it is a major issue worth spending 50 pages on. Plus, we have link after link after link with clubs explicitly saying they are forming teams by age range, not grade, and the dude still won't stop.

You are such a sneaky lier.

Yes there are multiple grades playing in a BY showcase. This is because in BY theres more trapped players than in SY. Also the players that you see in the BY "wrong g" grade are playing up. With SY and young Aug/Sept players they would be playing down. This is a HUGE difference.

Players playing up a grade are recruitable

Players playing down a grade are not recruitable.

It really is this simple.

This will only make sense when all parents realize that not every kid is recruitable. Not every kid is going to play in college. Not every kid is going to play D1

How many parents you know will want their kid grouped into a situation that more likely wont get recruited for playing in college.

All because the club values short term wins over long term development?

Your kid's development is your responsibility
Why would you sit them at a club doing nothing for them?

This is exactly the arguement.

One person is trying to explain why you dont want to play down. (college recruiting)

The other person is trying to convince people that playing down is no big deal.

Ask yourself. If you were a college coach and your job depended on wins would you be looking to roster players that are playing down a grade against younger players than their grade in school?

See how it works? It makes sense to group players by grade as young as possible to set them up for being recruited to play in college when theyre older.

College coaches know how to evaluate players so they would take the best players regardless of other players on the field. Being the youngest in the age group is a ticket to playing another sport not college soccer. Just have your DD play up to avoid the August girl you don't like.

Its the play down for wins thought processes.

As opposed to the play up for development.

We didnt have to deal with this type of thinking pre 2017

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone going to mention the first two tiers of boys college recruiting are MLS Club academies then MLS Next teams
Both are BY and school grades are not on anyone's radar

Its because with BY "trapped" players are playing up not down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone going to mention the first two tiers of boys college recruiting are MLS Club academies then MLS Next teams
Both are BY and school grades are not on anyone's radar

MLSnext has announced nothing so we don’t know what they are. Having said that, I’m sure recruiting is not being factored into this decision. It’s enough of a mess without it.