Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

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Anonymous wrote:Warning: Alexandria hates cars and loves any initiative that in theory or name only will strong arm people into being frustrated with driving, give up and use scooters or bikes.

They love road diets, bike lanes, revamping traffic light signal timings, needlessly remove traffic circles, 15-25 mph limits, anything BOAC wants, closing certain streets, etc., all
in the name of “vision zero” and “safe streets”. It doesn’t matter if they actually work, and some examples have been around long enough to know if they’ve worked (how many people you see using the King Street bike lane) , they will stick by anything they have decided with sheer force of will and cram it down your throat.

I’ve lived here 20+ years and used to commute everyday on the metro. I walk to my destination whenever I can. I enjoy the environment, would love to get more cars off the road. But I haven’t found these theories of road diets force and manipulate driver behavior with psychological warfare with any positive results. None. People are married to Waze and their cars. It sucks but it’s reality. I can’t believe Wilson once again says they’re purposefully going to have almost zero parking to force people to find another way to get there. People will end up parking in Del Ray, maybe even Rosemont or Arlandria and walk.

I am really worried about this.

20+ years and still complaining?! Move or get over it.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate Bowser so much for what she has done to our city that I hope the deal goes through. She's a complete failure and I would love to kick her when she's down. She has overseen the squander and ruin of the Nation's Capital. After nearly 30 decades, I can hardly wait to blow this joint.

This is dumb and spiteful. If you actually care about the District, you should be hoping that the DC government can somehow keep the teams in the city.

CapOne is clearly the best location from a transport perspective for the entire region. And its in need of a more comprehensive renovation. I don't care if Bowser or someone else gets the job done. We really can't lose these teams, given the moribund RTO status and lack of foot traffic.

I no longer care about the District. That's my point. I've been a good, tax paying, engaged resident for 30 years. My reward is a crime riddled city where criminals are more valued than me and my family. Let it burn.

You sound like a petulant child. The pendulum is going to swing back fast in DC.

How? With the current morons on council, the only place it will swing is back into the 70s and 80s.

We need a new leadership…and someone who is not a career local politician. Get someone with real world business experience who can govern and lay down the law. We need to incentivize growth in DC, not decay and equity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Warning: Alexandria hates cars and loves any initiative that in theory or name only will strong arm people into being frustrated with driving, give up and use scooters or bikes.

They love road diets, bike lanes, revamping traffic light signal timings, needlessly remove traffic circles, 15-25 mph limits, anything BOAC wants, closing certain streets, etc., all
in the name of “vision zero” and “safe streets”. It doesn’t matter if they actually work, and some examples have been around long enough to know if they’ve worked (how many people you see using the King Street bike lane) , they will stick by anything they have decided with sheer force of will and cram it down your throat.

I’ve lived here 20+ years and used to commute everyday on the metro. I walk to my destination whenever I can. I enjoy the environment, would love to get more cars off the road. But I haven’t found these theories of road diets force and manipulate driver behavior with psychological warfare with any positive results. None. People are married to Waze and their cars. It sucks but it’s reality. I can’t believe Wilson once again says they’re purposefully going to have almost zero parking to force people to find another way to get there. People will end up parking in Del Ray, maybe even Rosemont or Arlandria and walk.

I am really worried about this.

Seems like there is a potential for a new shuttle business!

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Anonymous wrote:I hate Bowser so much for what she has done to our city that I hope the deal goes through. She's a complete failure and I would love to kick her when she's down. She has overseen the squander and ruin of the Nation's Capital. After nearly 30 decades, I can hardly wait to blow this joint.

This is dumb and spiteful. If you actually care about the District, you should be hoping that the DC government can somehow keep the teams in the city.

CapOne is clearly the best location from a transport perspective for the entire region. And its in need of a more comprehensive renovation. I don't care if Bowser or someone else gets the job done. We really can't lose these teams, given the moribund RTO status and lack of foot traffic.

I no longer care about the District. That's my point. I've been a good, tax paying, engaged resident for 30 years. My reward is a crime riddled city where criminals are more valued than me and my family. Let it burn.

You sound like a petulant child. The pendulum is going to swing back fast in DC.

I am a DP, I really hope it does. 10 years ago you could go to a game or concert at Capital One Arena (it was the Verizon Center!) and then walk around to a bar or restaurant, go to a happy hour, then to your car or Metro. Even at night. It wasn’t a huge “nightlife” area but it was lively and fun. And no one was openly dealing drugs on the street. Your car wouldn’t be stolen and you wouldn’t be carjacked. There were panhandlers and homeless but they were not mentally disturbed and aggressive as they are now. But if you go there now you know that’s now how it is anymore.

I agree that a central location in the city is the best for all the fans. But the entire DC government dropped the ball big time and it opened up an avenue for Youngkin and the VA state and local government to quietly step in and Youngkin to convince his friend to move the teams. So yeah. I really really hope this is a wake up call for the city too, but I’m not 100% certain it will be. Don’t know what it’ll take to return everything to the good old days of, like, 2008-2016.

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Anonymous wrote:youngkin is going to have to pony up for Metro to even keep the PY station opened, much less allow for the kind of service necessary to make the arena remotely viable

Or he could tell metro he'll contribute even less if they close the station.

We just saw upthread that the proposal is to limit access to 4,000 cars. Good luck getting 20,000 people and all of the concession workers into the arena without metro.

I think on the call last night, Wilson said 3200 spaces. Whatever the number is, it would be less than the combined total of the current spaces in the strip mall added to the (past) movie theater spaces. Thus the "net loss."

Someone on Alxnow said this could be a fantastic opportunity for Alexandria to benefit from tow-sharks preying on those parking illegally. That would be a good revenue source!

It seems like a great way to ensure that local business die.

Utter nonsense. People coming to the arena will either take transit, or pay a premium for a rare spot.

And those local businesses that have their own parking, will be happy to not have arena-users illegally park in their lots.

If there are only 2,500 spots available for the arena, then you are assuming several hundred concession workers and ticket takers/security etc as well as, say 17,000 fans arriving by Metro. On a single track with 6-8 cars at a time. The crush before the game will be bad, and that is during rush hour. The crush after the game, assuming metro is even still running, will be a nightmare.

Don't forget the players, team employees, owners and luxury box owners. That plus the arena staff bring spots down to 2,000. Oh and there's supposed to be VaTech and retail there as well. By the time all is said and done there might be only 1500 parking spots for the people going to the games.

This is going to be hilarious!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Warning: Alexandria hates cars and loves any initiative that in theory or name only will strong arm people into being frustrated with driving, give up and use scooters or bikes.

They love road diets, bike lanes, revamping traffic light signal timings, needlessly remove traffic circles, 15-25 mph limits, anything BOAC wants, closing certain streets, etc., all
in the name of “vision zero” and “safe streets”. It doesn’t matter if they actually work, and some examples have been around long enough to know if they’ve worked (how many people you see using the King Street bike lane) , they will stick by anything they have decided with sheer force of will and cram it down your throat.

I’ve lived here 20+ years and used to commute everyday on the metro. I walk to my destination whenever I can. I enjoy the environment, would love to get more cars off the road. But I haven’t found these theories of road diets force and manipulate driver behavior with psychological warfare with any positive results. None. People are married to Waze and their cars. It sucks but it’s reality. I can’t believe Wilson once again says they’re purposefully going to have almost zero parking to force people to find another way to get there. People will end up parking in Del Ray, maybe even Rosemont or Arlandria and walk.

I am really worried about this.

20+ years and still complaining?! Move or get over it.

NP here. No dog in this fight but you are terribly rude. PP was addressing the topic at hand, you do not have to read it, or even like it. Grow up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate Bowser so much for what she has done to our city that I hope the deal goes through. She's a complete failure and I would love to kick her when she's down. She has overseen the squander and ruin of the Nation's Capital. After nearly 30 decades, I can hardly wait to blow this joint.

This is dumb and spiteful. If you actually care about the District, you should be hoping that the DC government can somehow keep the teams in the city.

CapOne is clearly the best location from a transport perspective for the entire region. And its in need of a more comprehensive renovation. I don't care if Bowser or someone else gets the job done. We really can't lose these teams, given the moribund RTO status and lack of foot traffic.

I no longer care about the District. That's my point. I've been a good, tax paying, engaged resident for 30 years. My reward is a crime riddled city where criminals are more valued than me and my family. Let it burn.

You sound like a petulant child. The pendulum is going to swing back fast in DC.

I am a DP, I really hope it does. 10 years ago you could go to a game or concert at Capital One Arena (it was the Verizon Center!) and then walk around to a bar or restaurant, go to a happy hour, then to your car or Metro. Even at night. It wasn’t a huge “nightlife” area but it was lively and fun. And no one was openly dealing drugs on the street. Your car wouldn’t be stolen and you wouldn’t be carjacked. There were panhandlers and homeless but they were not mentally disturbed and aggressive as they are now. But if you go there now you know that’s now how it is anymore.

I agree that a central location in the city is the best for all the fans. But the entire DC government dropped the ball big time and it opened up an avenue for Youngkin and the VA state and local government to quietly step in and Youngkin to convince his friend to move the teams. So yeah. I really really hope this is a wake up call for the city too, but I’m not 100% certain it will be. Don’t know what it’ll take to return everything to the good old days of, like, 2008-2016.

You can still do those things. I even did them last night.

The DC Government didn't drop the ball. Read the Axios report. DC doesn't have 70 acres and 2 billion dollars to give to Leonsis to retain the teams. That is the proposal Virginia made. It has nothing to do with crime, which is just the cop out bogeyman (yes it is an issue but it isn't why the teams are moving) - this is a plain old money grab that two old friends conjured up at Virginia taxpayer expense.

[Anonymous]

I wonder if they would create a VRE stop by PY?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate Bowser so much for what she has done to our city that I hope the deal goes through. She's a complete failure and I would love to kick her when she's down. She has overseen the squander and ruin of the Nation's Capital. After nearly 30 decades, I can hardly wait to blow this joint.

This is dumb and spiteful. If you actually care about the District, you should be hoping that the DC government can somehow keep the teams in the city.

CapOne is clearly the best location from a transport perspective for the entire region. And its in need of a more comprehensive renovation. I don't care if Bowser or someone else gets the job done. We really can't lose these teams, given the moribund RTO status and lack of foot traffic.

“Dumb and spiteful” unfortunately describes the mayor at her disastrous press conference after the announcement. Her answers were both condescending and vapid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if they would create a VRE stop by PY?

There’s one at Crystal City.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if they would create a VRE stop by PY?

There’s one at Crystal City.

It's like a 15 minute walk. Are people really that lazy that they can't walk 15 minutes?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:youngkin is going to have to pony up for Metro to even keep the PY station opened, much less allow for the kind of service necessary to make the arena remotely viable

Or he could tell metro he'll contribute even less if they close the station.

We just saw upthread that the proposal is to limit access to 4,000 cars. Good luck getting 20,000 people and all of the concession workers into the arena without metro.

I think on the call last night, Wilson said 3200 spaces. Whatever the number is, it would be less than the combined total of the current spaces in the strip mall added to the (past) movie theater spaces. Thus the "net loss."

Someone on Alxnow said this could be a fantastic opportunity for Alexandria to benefit from tow-sharks preying on those parking illegally. That would be a good revenue source!

It seems like a great way to ensure that local business die.

Utter nonsense. People coming to the arena will either take transit, or pay a premium for a rare spot.

And those local businesses that have their own parking, will be happy to not have arena-users illegally park in their lots.

PY will be a traffic disaster for 80 plus days a year, at least.

And empty otherwise. Seems a small price to pay to clear out the traffic.

[Anonymous]

How will the pendulum swing back? There is zero plan to address crime.

I was one of those people who thought the crime complaints were overblown until I had a gun in my face in the middle of a workday and saw how random it is in this neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate Bowser so much for what she has done to our city that I hope the deal goes through. She's a complete failure and I would love to kick her when she's down. She has overseen the squander and ruin of the Nation's Capital. After nearly 30 decades, I can hardly wait to blow this joint.

This is dumb and spiteful. If you actually care about the District, you should be hoping that the DC government can somehow keep the teams in the city.

CapOne is clearly the best location from a transport perspective for the entire region. And its in need of a more comprehensive renovation. I don't care if Bowser or someone else gets the job done. We really can't lose these teams, given the moribund RTO status and lack of foot traffic.

“Dumb and spiteful” unfortunately describes the mayor at her disastrous press conference after the announcement. Her answers were both condescending and vapid.

Agreed. It's amazing how unpolished she is after so much time in office. Trying to sound haughty and knowing while also seeming lost and desperate. Not a good look.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:youngkin is going to have to pony up for Metro to even keep the PY station opened, much less allow for the kind of service necessary to make the arena remotely viable

Or he could tell metro he'll contribute even less if they close the station.

We just saw upthread that the proposal is to limit access to 4,000 cars. Good luck getting 20,000 people and all of the concession workers into the arena without metro.

I think on the call last night, Wilson said 3200 spaces. Whatever the number is, it would be less than the combined total of the current spaces in the strip mall added to the (past) movie theater spaces. Thus the "net loss."

Someone on Alxnow said this could be a fantastic opportunity for Alexandria to benefit from tow-sharks preying on those parking illegally. That would be a good revenue source! :)

It seems like a great way to ensure that local business die.

Utter nonsense. People coming to the arena will either take transit, or pay a premium for a rare spot.

And those local businesses that have their own parking, will be happy to not have arena-users illegally park in their lots.

PY will be a traffic disaster for 80 plus days a year, at least.

And empty otherwise. Seems a small price to pay to clear out the traffic.

No. There were already developments planned for this location. So not empty.