Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Warning: Alexandria hates cars and loves any initiative that in theory or name only will strong arm people into being frustrated with driving, give up and use scooters or bikes.

They love road diets, bike lanes, revamping traffic light signal timings, needlessly remove traffic circles, 15-25 mph limits, anything BOAC wants, closing certain streets, etc., all
in the name of “vision zero” and “safe streets”. It doesn’t matter if they actually work, and some examples have been around long enough to know if they’ve worked (how many people you see using the King Street bike lane) , they will stick by anything they have decided with sheer force of will and cram it down your throat.

I’ve lived here 20+ years and used to commute everyday on the metro. I walk to my destination whenever I can. I enjoy the environment, would love to get more cars off the road. But I haven’t found these theories of road diets force and manipulate driver behavior with psychological warfare with any positive results. None. People are married to Waze and their cars. It sucks but it’s reality. I can’t believe Wilson once again says they’re purposefully going to have almost zero parking to force people to find another way to get there. People will end up parking in Del Ray, maybe even Rosemont or Arlandria and walk.

I am really worried about this.

Please contact a therapist for your mental health state.

Grow up PP. She is right; our efforts to get people out of their cars are not working.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As to Metro coverage, if one or two stops on the green line is sufficient for Nats Park and Audi Field, why do people believe that PY would be insufficient to handle crowds. I have not traversed the pedestrian bridge and that is one obvious choke point. Are there others?

As to PY, I recall the National Park Sevice being very protective of the views from the GW Parkway to the point that, from WMATA's view, the station placement is suboptimal. From what I've seen, the proposed stadium would be even more triggering of NPS's design veto. Is my recollection correct here? If so, has there been any questionin of/reaction from NPS?

Nats park is on the grid, so people can go via the bridge, S Cap to the highway or east on M Street or west on M Street to Rock Creek.
People can also bikeshare to other metro lines, and do.

Potomac Yards doesn't have easy access to other metro lines or other roads.

See the problem?

I don’t care about whether they move or not BUT things can change/improve just as they did around the old phone booth and Nats park. They’ll have to deal with the transportation issues that they are creating. I hated moving outside the beltway (I’m a city girl) but this kind of crap makes me less sad about our decision to move out here. Sorry.

This is a pretty big hurdle. I will be interested to see what the conjure up as a solution.

Girl please… Leave! Plenty of people would love to live in northern Virginia

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Warning: Alexandria hates cars and loves any initiative that in theory or name only will strong arm people into being frustrated with driving, give up and use scooters or bikes.

They love road diets, bike lanes, revamping traffic light signal timings, needlessly remove traffic circles, 15-25 mph limits, anything BOAC wants, closing certain streets, etc., all
in the name of “vision zero” and “safe streets”. It doesn’t matter if they actually work, and some examples have been around long enough to know if they’ve worked (how many people you see using the King Street bike lane) , they will stick by anything they have decided with sheer force of will and cram it down your throat.

I’ve lived here 20+ years and used to commute everyday on the metro. I walk to my destination whenever I can. I enjoy the environment, would love to get more cars off the road. But I haven’t found these theories of road diets force and manipulate driver behavior with psychological warfare with any positive results. None. People are married to Waze and their cars. It sucks but it’s reality. I can’t believe Wilson once again says they’re purposefully going to have almost zero parking to force people to find another way to get there. People will end up parking in Del Ray, maybe even Rosemont or Arlandria and walk.

I am really worried about this.

Please contact a therapist for your mental health state.

Grow up PP. She is right; our efforts to get people out of their cars are not working.

Grown-ups also need a therapist. Her post screams I’m dealing with inner turmoil. A therapist could greatly help her. I can only imagine what her family must endure.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:youngkin is going to have to pony up for Metro to even keep the PY station opened, much less allow for the kind of service necessary to make the arena remotely viable

Or he could tell metro he'll contribute even less if they close the station.

We just saw upthread that the proposal is to limit access to 4,000 cars. Good luck getting 20,000 people and all of the concession workers into the arena without metro.

I think on the call last night, Wilson said 3200 spaces. Whatever the number is, it would be less than the combined total of the current spaces in the strip mall added to the (past) movie theater spaces. Thus the "net loss."

Someone on Alxnow said this could be a fantastic opportunity for Alexandria to benefit from tow-sharks preying on those parking illegally. That would be a good revenue source!

I could have sworn on the call Wilson said there were 3700 parking spots currently, but that the development would only have 2500 spots, so significant reduction.

2500-3200 parking spaces! hahahaha

Now I desperately want for this to happen just to gawk at the cluster it will be

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:youngkin is going to have to pony up for Metro to even keep the PY station opened, much less allow for the kind of service necessary to make the arena remotely viable

Or he could tell metro he'll contribute even less if they close the station.

We just saw upthread that the proposal is to limit access to 4,000 cars. Good luck getting 20,000 people and all of the concession workers into the arena without metro.

I think on the call last night, Wilson said 3200 spaces. Whatever the number is, it would be less than the combined total of the current spaces in the strip mall added to the (past) movie theater spaces. Thus the "net loss."

Someone on Alxnow said this could be a fantastic opportunity for Alexandria to benefit from tow-sharks preying on those parking illegally. That would be a good revenue source!

It seems like a great way to ensure that local business die.

Utter nonsense. People coming to the arena will either take transit, or pay a premium for a rare spot.

And those local businesses that have their own parking, will be happy to not have arena-users illegally park in their lots.

PY will be a traffic disaster for 80 plus days a year, at least.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Warning: Alexandria hates cars and loves any initiative that in theory or name only will strong arm people into being frustrated with driving, give up and use scooters or bikes.

They love road diets, bike lanes, revamping traffic light signal timings, needlessly remove traffic circles, 15-25 mph limits, anything BOAC wants, closing certain streets, etc., all
in the name of “vision zero” and “safe streets”. It doesn’t matter if they actually work, and some examples have been around long enough to know if they’ve worked (how many people you see using the King Street bike lane) , they will stick by anything they have decided with sheer force of will and cram it down your throat.

I’ve lived here 20+ years and used to commute everyday on the metro. I walk to my destination whenever I can. I enjoy the environment, would love to get more cars off the road. But I haven’t found these theories of road diets force and manipulate driver behavior with psychological warfare with any positive results. None. People are married to Waze and their cars. It sucks but it’s reality. I can’t believe Wilson once again says they’re purposefully going to have almost zero parking to force people to find another way to get there. People will end up parking in Del Ray, maybe even Rosemont or Arlandria and walk.

I am really worried about this.

Please contact a therapist for your mental health state.

Grow up PP. She is right; our efforts to get people out of their cars are not working.

Grown-ups also need a therapist. Her post screams I’m dealing with inner turmoil. A therapist could greatly help her. I can only imagine what her family must endure.

Projection. Time for you to up your dosage.

[Anonymous]

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The most pitiful rafters in professional sports

1 nba championship 50 years ago
1 nhl championship in 50 years

Mystics 1 year top attendance .


Good grief. Moribund.

Only thing worth watching is the one or two playoff games the capitals play.

And yet the Caps still are selling out and the Wizards draw despite being a bottom feeding uncompetitive team for essentially decades. And this is how Ted treats the fans that have supported his teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Warning: Alexandria hates cars and loves any initiative that in theory or name only will strong arm people into being frustrated with driving, give up and use scooters or bikes.

They love road diets, bike lanes, revamping traffic light signal timings, needlessly remove traffic circles, 15-25 mph limits, anything BOAC wants, closing certain streets, etc., all
in the name of “vision zero” and “safe streets”. It doesn’t matter if they actually work, and some examples have been around long enough to know if they’ve worked (how many people you see using the King Street bike lane) , they will stick by anything they have decided with sheer force of will and cram it down your throat.

I’ve lived here 20+ years and used to commute everyday on the metro. I walk to my destination whenever I can. I enjoy the environment, would love to get more cars off the road. But I haven’t found these theories of road diets force and manipulate driver behavior with psychological warfare with any positive results. None. People are married to Waze and their cars. It sucks but it’s reality. I can’t believe Wilson once again says they’re purposefully going to have almost zero parking to force people to find another way to get there. People will end up parking in Del Ray, maybe even Rosemont or Arlandria and walk.

I am really worried about this.

Please contact a therapist for your mental health state.

A therapist for what? You make zero sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate Bowser so much for what she has done to our city that I hope the deal goes through. She's a complete failure and I would love to kick her when she's down. She has overseen the squander and ruin of the Nation's Capital. After nearly 30 decades, I can hardly wait to blow this joint.

This is dumb and spiteful. If you actually care about the District, you should be hoping that the DC government can somehow keep the teams in the city.

CapOne is clearly the best location from a transport perspective for the entire region. And its in need of a more comprehensive renovation. I don't care if Bowser or someone else gets the job done. We really can't lose these teams, given the moribund RTO status and lack of foot traffic.

I no longer care about the District. That's my point. I've been a good, tax paying, engaged resident for 30 years. My reward is a crime riddled city where criminals are more valued than me and my family. Let it burn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Warning: Alexandria hates cars and loves any initiative that in theory or name only will strong arm people into being frustrated with driving, give up and use scooters or bikes.

They love road diets, bike lanes, revamping traffic light signal timings, needlessly remove traffic circles, 15-25 mph limits, anything BOAC wants, closing certain streets, etc., all
in the name of “vision zero” and “safe streets”. It doesn’t matter if they actually work, and some examples have been around long enough to know if they’ve worked (how many people you see using the King Street bike lane) , they will stick by anything they have decided with sheer force of will and cram it down your throat.

I’ve lived here 20+ years and used to commute everyday on the metro. I walk to my destination whenever I can. I enjoy the environment, would love to get more cars off the road. But I haven’t found these theories of road diets force and manipulate driver behavior with psychological warfare with any positive results. None. People are married to Waze and their cars. It sucks but it’s reality. I can’t believe Wilson once again says they’re purposefully going to have almost zero parking to force people to find another way to get there. People will end up parking in Del Ray, maybe even Rosemont or Arlandria and walk.

I am really worried about this.

Please contact a therapist for your mental health state.

Grow up PP. She is right; our efforts to get people out of their cars are not working.

Grown-ups also need a therapist. Her post screams I’m dealing with inner turmoil. A therapist could greatly help her. I can only imagine what her family must endure.

Her post screams “I’m tired of dealing with traffic”. How you make any other connection is bizarre! Who hurt you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:youngkin is going to have to pony up for Metro to even keep the PY station opened, much less allow for the kind of service necessary to make the arena remotely viable

Or he could tell metro he'll contribute even less if they close the station.

We just saw upthread that the proposal is to limit access to 4,000 cars. Good luck getting 20,000 people and all of the concession workers into the arena without metro.

I think on the call last night, Wilson said 3200 spaces. Whatever the number is, it would be less than the combined total of the current spaces in the strip mall added to the (past) movie theater spaces. Thus the "net loss."

Someone on Alxnow said this could be a fantastic opportunity for Alexandria to benefit from tow-sharks preying on those parking illegally. That would be a good revenue source!

It seems like a great way to ensure that local business die.

Utter nonsense. People coming to the arena will either take transit, or pay a premium for a rare spot.

And those local businesses that have their own parking, will be happy to not have arena-users illegally park in their lots.

If there are only 2,500 spots available for the arena, then you are assuming several hundred concession workers and ticket takers/security etc as well as, say 17,000 fans arriving by Metro. On a single track with 6-8 cars at a time. The crush before the game will be bad, and that is during rush hour. The crush after the game, assuming metro is even still running, will be a nightmare.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As to Metro coverage, if one or two stops on the green line is sufficient for Nats Park and Audi Field, why do people believe that PY would be insufficient to handle crowds. I have not traversed the pedestrian bridge and that is one obvious choke point. Are there others?

As to PY, I recall the National Park Sevice being very protective of the views from the GW Parkway to the point that, from WMATA's view, the station placement is suboptimal. From what I've seen, the proposed stadium would be even more triggering of NPS's design veto. Is my recollection correct here? If so, has there been any questionin of/reaction from NPS?

Nats park is on the grid, so people can go via the bridge, S Cap to the highway or east on M Street or west on M Street to Rock Creek.
People can also bikeshare to other metro lines, and do.

Potomac Yards doesn't have easy access to other metro lines or other roads.

See the problem?

I don’t care about whether they move or not BUT things can change/improve just as they did around the old phone booth and Nats park. They’ll have to deal with the transportation issues that they are creating. I hated moving outside the beltway (I’m a city girl) but this kind of crap makes me less sad about our decision to move out here. Sorry.

This is a pretty big hurdle. I will be interested to see what the conjure up as a solution.

Girl please… Leave! Plenty of people would love to live in northern Virginia

This isn't about living in northern virginia. This is about how to get 20,000 people in and out of a constrained area 200+ times per year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate Bowser so much for what she has done to our city that I hope the deal goes through. She's a complete failure and I would love to kick her when she's down. She has overseen the squander and ruin of the Nation's Capital. After nearly 30 decades, I can hardly wait to blow this joint.

This is dumb and spiteful. If you actually care about the District, you should be hoping that the DC government can somehow keep the teams in the city.

CapOne is clearly the best location from a transport perspective for the entire region. And its in need of a more comprehensive renovation. I don't care if Bowser or someone else gets the job done. We really can't lose these teams, given the moribund RTO status and lack of foot traffic.

I no longer care about the District. That's my point. I've been a good, tax paying, engaged resident for 30 years. My reward is a crime riddled city where criminals are more valued than me and my family. Let it burn.

Apparently fighting crime “isn’t fair” and so the city is getting worse as a response and won’t enforce the law anaaaaan all our sports teams are leaving. I’m sorry, they’re leaving because of tax breaks and what not but also because China Town is sketchball central and mofos will blow blunt smoke in your face before robbing you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:youngkin is going to have to pony up for Metro to even keep the PY station opened, much less allow for the kind of service necessary to make the arena remotely viable

Or he could tell metro he'll contribute even less if they close the station.

We just saw upthread that the proposal is to limit access to 4,000 cars. Good luck getting 20,000 people and all of the concession workers into the arena without metro.

I think on the call last night, Wilson said 3200 spaces. Whatever the number is, it would be less than the combined total of the current spaces in the strip mall added to the (past) movie theater spaces. Thus the "net loss."

Someone on Alxnow said this could be a fantastic opportunity for Alexandria to benefit from tow-sharks preying on those parking illegally. That would be a good revenue source!

It seems like a great way to ensure that local business die.

Utter nonsense. People coming to the arena will either take transit, or pay a premium for a rare spot.

And those local businesses that have their own parking, will be happy to not have arena-users illegally park in their lots.

If there are only 2,500 spots available for the arena, then you are assuming several hundred concession workers and ticket takers/security etc as well as, say 17,000 fans arriving by Metro. On a single track with 6-8 cars at a time. The crush before the game will be bad, and that is during rush hour. The crush after the game, assuming metro is even still running, will be a nightmare.

Who on earth do you think mostly patron those local businesses? They're not commuters passing through and tourists. They're locals - people who live/work in a 1-mile radius.

Look, I don't want this to happen. I'd be happy if things stayed in DC. Increasing parking capacity would be a nightmare for everyone - but forget parking - the local arteries are not meant to handle anywhere close to that kind of congestion.

People are going to come, drive around aimlessly, and illegally park when they can't find anything. And if they do, of course they should be rapidly towed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate Bowser so much for what she has done to our city that I hope the deal goes through. She's a complete failure and I would love to kick her when she's down. She has overseen the squander and ruin of the Nation's Capital. After nearly 30 decades, I can hardly wait to blow this joint.

This is dumb and spiteful. If you actually care about the District, you should be hoping that the DC government can somehow keep the teams in the city.

CapOne is clearly the best location from a transport perspective for the entire region. And its in need of a more comprehensive renovation. I don't care if Bowser or someone else gets the job done. We really can't lose these teams, given the moribund RTO status and lack of foot traffic.

I no longer care about the District. That's my point. I've been a good, tax paying, engaged resident for 30 years. My reward is a crime riddled city where criminals are more valued than me and my family. Let it burn.

You sound like a petulant child. The pendulum is going to swing back fast in DC.