MCPS Coming Back, Better Than Ever

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. To all the parents commenting how MCPS is getting too lax with covid and doesn’t care about keeping kids safe: wow. I did not see you coming. Congrats on the element of surprise. I mean, MCPS was pretty much last place in getting kids back to school this year under the banner of “safety.” The thing is, what you are complaining about—normal school with masks— was basically what most of the country did in 2020, before vaccines. Not crazy red states, but totally normal places like affluent educated suburbs of Chicago for example. This isn’t radical. It’s mainstream and MCPS was behind the eight ball. Way behind. But again if you don’t like it homeschool and private online are always available just like those of us horrified by MCPS’s 2020 plan had to make other arrangements now you need to make other arrangements. God speed.

Agreed. I mean what's the surprise? Everybody should have been able to project what five days in-person meant. The era of zero risk, hyperventilating over every case is over in this country.

My niece started school in Mississippi three days ago. Deep South. Science deniers. Last week it was no masks. This week? Masks are mandatory and parents should be prepared to pivot for virtual learning. It’s not over. (I want it to be let’s be clear on my stance)

The Mississippi county with the highest percent of the total population receiving at least one dose is Jefferson County (population <8,000), at 51.4%. Every other county in Mississippi has lower vaccination rates. Contrast that with Montgomery County, Maryland, where it's 76.8%.

It's so weird that places with low vaccination rates are having covid outbreaks. I mean, who would have thought?

Vaccination rates don't matter for the 0-12 crowd who cannot be vaccinated. Look at MCPS numbers. At least half the kids will not be vaccinated.

12-year-olds can be vaccinated. Why do you keep repeating this misinformation?

Also, vaccination rates absolutely do matter, because if all of the vaccine-eligible people around the 0-11-year-olds are vaccinated, then there will be no opportunity for the 0-11-year-olds to get infected. That's how herd immunity works.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. To all the parents commenting how MCPS is getting too lax with covid and doesn’t care about keeping kids safe: wow. I did not see you coming. Congrats on the element of surprise. I mean, MCPS was pretty much last place in getting kids back to school this year under the banner of “safety.” The thing is, what you are complaining about—normal school with masks— was basically what most of the country did in 2020, before vaccines. Not crazy red states, but totally normal places like affluent educated suburbs of Chicago for example. This isn’t radical. It’s mainstream and MCPS was behind the eight ball. Way behind. But again if you don’t like it homeschool and private online are always available just like those of us horrified by MCPS’s 2020 plan had to make other arrangements now you need to make other arrangements. God speed.

Agreed. I mean what's the surprise? Everybody should have been able to project what five days in-person meant. The era of zero risk, hyperventilating over every case is over in this country.

My niece started school in Mississippi three days ago. Deep South. Science deniers. Last week it was no masks. This week? Masks are mandatory and parents should be prepared to pivot for virtual learning. It’s not over. (I want it to be let’s be clear on my stance)

The Mississippi county with the highest percent of the total population receiving at least one dose is Jefferson County (population <8,000), at 51.4%. Every other county in Mississippi has lower vaccination rates. Contrast that with Montgomery County, Maryland, where it's 76.8%.

It's so weird that places with low vaccination rates are having covid outbreaks. I mean, who would have thought?

Vaccination rates don't matter for the 0-12 crowd who cannot be vaccinated. Look at MCPS numbers. At least half the kids will not be vaccinated.

12-year-olds can be vaccinated. Why do you keep repeating this misinformation?

Also, vaccination rates absolutely do matter, because if all of the vaccine-eligible people around the 0-11-year-olds are vaccinated, then there will be no opportunity for the 0-11-year-olds to get infected. That's how herd immunity works.

It still takes two months to get full immunity so a 12 year old who turns 12 in July-winter will not be fully vaccinated.

Your logic makes no sense as that is not how herd immunity will work. 0-11 can get and spread covid. Stop pretending that they cannot get it.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. To all the parents commenting how MCPS is getting too lax with covid and doesn’t care about keeping kids safe: wow. I did not see you coming. Congrats on the element of surprise. I mean, MCPS was pretty much last place in getting kids back to school this year under the banner of “safety.” The thing is, what you are complaining about—normal school with masks— was basically what most of the country did in 2020, before vaccines. Not crazy red states, but totally normal places like affluent educated suburbs of Chicago for example. This isn’t radical. It’s mainstream and MCPS was behind the eight ball. Way behind. But again if you don’t like it homeschool and private online are always available just like those of us horrified by MCPS’s 2020 plan had to make other arrangements now you need to make other arrangements. God speed.

Agreed. I mean what's the surprise? Everybody should have been able to project what five days in-person meant. The era of zero risk, hyperventilating over every case is over in this country.

My niece started school in Mississippi three days ago. Deep South. Science deniers. Last week it was no masks. This week? Masks are mandatory and parents should be prepared to pivot for virtual learning. It’s not over. (I want it to be let’s be clear on my stance)

The Mississippi county with the highest percent of the total population receiving at least one dose is Jefferson County (population <8,000), at 51.4%. Every other county in Mississippi has lower vaccination rates. Contrast that with Montgomery County, Maryland, where it's 76.8%.

It's so weird that places with low vaccination rates are having covid outbreaks. I mean, who would have thought?

Vaccination rates don't matter for the 0-12 crowd who cannot be vaccinated. Look at MCPS numbers. At least half the kids will not be vaccinated.

12-year-olds can be vaccinated. Why do you keep repeating this misinformation?

Also, vaccination rates absolutely do matter, because if all of the vaccine-eligible people around the 0-11-year-olds are vaccinated, then there will be no opportunity for the 0-11-year-olds to get infected. That's how herd immunity works.

It still takes two months to get full immunity so a 12 year old who turns 12 in July-winter will not be fully vaccinated.

Your logic makes no sense as that is not how herd immunity will work. 0-11 can get and spread covid. Stop pretending that they cannot get it.

0-11-year-olds can't get covid IF NOBODY AROUND THEM IS INFECTED. That is how herd immunity works.

Also, 12-year-olds are eligible for vaccination.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. To all the parents commenting how MCPS is getting too lax with covid and doesn’t care about keeping kids safe: wow. I did not see you coming. Congrats on the element of surprise. I mean, MCPS was pretty much last place in getting kids back to school this year under the banner of “safety.” The thing is, what you are complaining about—normal school with masks— was basically what most of the country did in 2020, before vaccines. Not crazy red states, but totally normal places like affluent educated suburbs of Chicago for example. This isn’t radical. It’s mainstream and MCPS was behind the eight ball. Way behind. But again if you don’t like it homeschool and private online are always available just like those of us horrified by MCPS’s 2020 plan had to make other arrangements now you need to make other arrangements. God speed.

Agreed. I mean what's the surprise? Everybody should have been able to project what five days in-person meant. The era of zero risk, hyperventilating over every case is over in this country.

My niece started school in Mississippi three days ago. Deep South. Science deniers. Last week it was no masks. This week? Masks are mandatory and parents should be prepared to pivot for virtual learning. It’s not over. (I want it to be let’s be clear on my stance)

The Mississippi county with the highest percent of the total population receiving at least one dose is Jefferson County (population <8,000), at 51.4%. Every other county in Mississippi has lower vaccination rates. Contrast that with Montgomery County, Maryland, where it's 76.8%.

It's so weird that places with low vaccination rates are having covid outbreaks. I mean, who would have thought?

Vaccination rates don't matter for the 0-12 crowd who cannot be vaccinated. Look at MCPS numbers. At least half the kids will not be vaccinated.

12-year-olds can be vaccinated. Why do you keep repeating this misinformation?

Also, vaccination rates absolutely do matter, because if all of the vaccine-eligible people around the 0-11-year-olds are vaccinated, then there will be no opportunity for the 0-11-year-olds to get infected. That's how herd immunity works.

It still takes two months to get full immunity so a 12 year old who turns 12 in July-winter will not be fully vaccinated.

Your logic makes no sense as that is not how herd immunity will work. 0-11 can get and spread covid. Stop pretending that they cannot get it.

0-11-year-olds can't get covid IF NOBODY AROUND THEM IS INFECTED. That is how herd immunity works.

Also, 12-year-olds are eligible for vaccination.

God, you sound so desperate for anyone to believe you. It’s pathetic.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. To all the parents commenting how MCPS is getting too lax with covid and doesn’t care about keeping kids safe: wow. I did not see you coming. Congrats on the element of surprise. I mean, MCPS was pretty much last place in getting kids back to school this year under the banner of “safety.” The thing is, what you are complaining about—normal school with masks— was basically what most of the country did in 2020, before vaccines. Not crazy red states, but totally normal places like affluent educated suburbs of Chicago for example. This isn’t radical. It’s mainstream and MCPS was behind the eight ball. Way behind. But again if you don’t like it homeschool and private online are always available just like those of us horrified by MCPS’s 2020 plan had to make other arrangements now you need to make other arrangements. God speed.

Agreed. I mean what's the surprise? Everybody should have been able to project what five days in-person meant. The era of zero risk, hyperventilating over every case is over in this country.

My niece started school in Mississippi three days ago. Deep South. Science deniers. Last week it was no masks. This week? Masks are mandatory and parents should be prepared to pivot for virtual learning. It’s not over. (I want it to be let’s be clear on my stance)

The Mississippi county with the highest percent of the total population receiving at least one dose is Jefferson County (population <8,000), at 51.4%. Every other county in Mississippi has lower vaccination rates. Contrast that with Montgomery County, Maryland, where it's 76.8%.

It's so weird that places with low vaccination rates are having covid outbreaks. I mean, who would have thought?

Vaccination rates don't matter for the 0-12 crowd who cannot be vaccinated. Look at MCPS numbers. At least half the kids will not be vaccinated.

12-year-olds can be vaccinated. Why do you keep repeating this misinformation?

Also, vaccination rates absolutely do matter, because if all of the vaccine-eligible people around the 0-11-year-olds are vaccinated, then there will be no opportunity for the 0-11-year-olds to get infected. That's how herd immunity works.

It still takes two months to get full immunity so a 12 year old who turns 12 in July-winter will not be fully vaccinated.

Your logic makes no sense as that is not how herd immunity will work. 0-11 can get and spread covid. Stop pretending that they cannot get it.

0-11-year-olds can't get covid IF NOBODY AROUND THEM IS INFECTED. That is how herd immunity works.

Also, 12-year-olds are eligible for vaccination.

Where is the data showing 11 and under cannot get infected with covid. We are not at herd immunity. Familes are traveling, camps, socializing, eating out. The only way we can get herd immunity is to close our community but once we reopen it, covid will come back as someone will bring it in like in Isreal and other countries. Until COVID is better both domestically and internationally, our kids are at risk.

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School is only open right now on a limited basis with summer school and there is no MCPS testing and we are still having positives in MCPS. This doesn't include summer camps or anywhere else where young kids go.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/coronavirus/dashboard/

So, where is this 11 and under bubble that protects them?

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Anonymous wrote:School is only open right now on a limited basis with summer school and there is no MCPS testing and we are still having positives in MCPS. This doesn't include summer camps or anywhere else where young kids go.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/coronavirus/dashboard/

So, where is this 11 and under bubble that protects them?

By not testing they can ignore the majority of cases that are asymptomatic in children and pretend everything is just fine.

Even for vaccinated people there are longterm complications from COVID that are very serious.

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Anonymous wrote:School is only open right now on a limited basis with summer school and there is no MCPS testing and we are still having positives in MCPS. This doesn't include summer camps or anywhere else where young kids go.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/coronavirus/dashboard/

So, where is this 11 and under bubble that protects them?

By not testing they can ignore the majority of cases that are asymptomatic in children and pretend everything is just fine.

Even for vaccinated people there are longterm complications from COVID that are very serious.

Pretending everything is fine is my plan because the long term complications you speak of are rare (minuscule perhaps) for vaccinated healthy kids and their families and teachers. The long term complications of year 3 of disrupted school not so much. But, mcps knew you would exist and created virtual academy for you so please go do that. You will never convince me to worry and I will never convince you not to worry so we can each go to our respective camps with the solutions mcps has provided for 2021/2022.

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Anonymous wrote:School is only open right now on a limited basis with summer school and there is no MCPS testing and we are still having positives in MCPS. This doesn't include summer camps or anywhere else where young kids go.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/coronavirus/dashboard/

So, where is this 11 and under bubble that protects them?

By not testing they can ignore the majority of cases that are asymptomatic in children and pretend everything is just fine.

Even for vaccinated people there are longterm complications from COVID that are very serious.

Pretending everything is fine is my plan because the long term complications you speak of are rare (minuscule perhaps) for vaccinated healthy kids and their families and teachers. The long term complications of year 3 of disrupted school not so much. But, mcps knew you would exist and created virtual academy for you so please go do that. You will never convince me to worry and I will never convince you not to worry so we can each go to our respective camps with the solutions mcps has provided for 2021/2022.

Meant unvaccinated healthy kids and their vaccinated families and teachers.

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Where is the data showing 11 and under cannot get infected with covid. We are not at herd immunity. Familes are traveling, camps, socializing, eating out. The only way we can get herd immunity is to close our community but once we reopen it, covid will come back as someone will bring it in like in Isreal and other countries. Until COVID is better both domestically and internationally, our kids are at risk.

People can't get infected by diseases that nobody around them has. You have to have contact with someone infected with SARS-CoV-2 in order to become infected with SARS-CoV-2. If nobody around you is infected with SARS-CoV-2, then you won't get infected with SARS-CoV-2.

"Closing our community" won't get anybody to herd immunity and also won't happen.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. To all the parents commenting how MCPS is getting too lax with covid and doesn’t care about keeping kids safe: wow. I did not see you coming. Congrats on the element of surprise. I mean, MCPS was pretty much last place in getting kids back to school this year under the banner of “safety.” The thing is, what you are complaining about—normal school with masks— was basically what most of the country did in 2020, before vaccines. Not crazy red states, but totally normal places like affluent educated suburbs of Chicago for example. This isn’t radical. It’s mainstream and MCPS was behind the eight ball. Way behind. But again if you don’t like it homeschool and private online are always available just like those of us horrified by MCPS’s 2020 plan had to make other arrangements now you need to make other arrangements. God speed.

Agreed. I mean what's the surprise? Everybody should have been able to project what five days in-person meant. The era of zero risk, hyperventilating over every case is over in this country.

My niece started school in Mississippi three days ago. Deep South. Science deniers. Last week it was no masks. This week? Masks are mandatory and parents should be prepared to pivot for virtual learning. It’s not over. (I want it to be let’s be clear on my stance)

The Mississippi county with the highest percent of the total population receiving at least one dose is Jefferson County (population <8,000), at 51.4%. Every other county in Mississippi has lower vaccination rates. Contrast that with Montgomery County, Maryland, where it's 76.8%.

It's so weird that places with low vaccination rates are having covid outbreaks. I mean, who would have thought?

Vaccination rates don't matter for the 0-12 crowd who cannot be vaccinated. Look at MCPS numbers. At least half the kids will not be vaccinated.

12-year-olds can be vaccinated. Why do you keep repeating this misinformation?

Also, vaccination rates absolutely do matter, because if all of the vaccine-eligible people around the 0-11-year-olds are vaccinated, then there will be no opportunity for the 0-11-year-olds to get infected. That's how herd immunity works.

It still takes two months to get full immunity so a 12 year old who turns 12 in July-winter will not be fully vaccinated.

Your logic makes no sense as that is not how herd immunity will work. 0-11 can get and spread covid. Stop pretending that they cannot get it.

0-11-year-olds can't get covid IF NOBODY AROUND THEM IS INFECTED. That is how herd immunity works.

Also, 12-year-olds are eligible for vaccination.

But there is no place in the country where NOBODY is infected. It’s still circulating at low levels around here even, mostly among the unvaccinated. Schools will be hundreds of unvaccinated kids packed together. Why would it not spread among kids?

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Anonymous wrote:School is only open right now on a limited basis with summer school and there is no MCPS testing and we are still having positives in MCPS. This doesn't include summer camps or anywhere else where young kids go.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/coronavirus/dashboard/

So, where is this 11 and under bubble that protects them?

By not testing they can ignore the majority of cases that are asymptomatic in children and pretend everything is just fine.

Even for vaccinated people there are longterm complications from COVID that are very serious.

Pretending everything is fine is my plan because the long term complications you speak of are rare (minuscule perhaps) for vaccinated healthy kids and their families and teachers. The long term complications of year 3 of disrupted school not so much. But, mcps knew you would exist and created virtual academy for you so please go do that. You will never convince me to worry and I will never convince you not to worry so we can each go to our respective camps with the solutions mcps has provided for 2021/2022.

Same here.

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But there is no place in the country where NOBODY is infected. It’s still circulating at low levels around here even, mostly among the unvaccinated. Schools will be hundreds of unvaccinated kids packed together. Why would it not spread among kids?

Over the last 7 days, there has been an average of 2.9 new cases per day per 100,000 residents. Let's assume that's an underestimate, and it's really twice that: 6 new cases per day per 100,000. Let's also assume that elementary-school students are getting it at the same rate as the population county-wide.

There are probably about 75,000 elementary-school students, so that would be hypothetically be 4.5 new cases per day among elementary school students (and all of those cases would be acquired in the community, because there currently isn't school(.

Let's also assume that there will be a mask requirement in elementary schools.

And let's keep in mind that last year, most cases in schools were acquired in the community, not in school.

So, what do we end up with?

1. Kids probably won't get it in school.
2. If they do get it in school, it's very unlikely that they will get anything worse than sniffles.
3. People who are still very worried should enroll their children in the Virtual Academy.
4. Urge everyone you know to go get vaccinated, if they are vaccine-eligible and have not yet been vaccinated.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:School is only open right now on a limited basis with summer school and there is no MCPS testing and we are still having positives in MCPS. This doesn't include summer camps or anywhere else where young kids go.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/coronavirus/dashboard/

So, where is this 11 and under bubble that protects them?

By not testing they can ignore the majority of cases that are asymptomatic in children and pretend everything is just fine.

Even for vaccinated people there are longterm complications from COVID that are very serious.

Pretending everything is fine is my plan because the long term complications you speak of are rare (minuscule perhaps) for vaccinated healthy kids and their families and teachers. The long term complications of year 3 of disrupted school not so much. But, mcps knew you would exist and created virtual academy for you so please go do that. You will never convince me to worry and I will never convince you not to worry so we can each go to our respective camps with the solutions mcps has provided for 2021/2022.

Same here.

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Anyone with concerns should lobby for more spots in Virtual Academy.

The rest of us are happy to send our kids back in person, delta/lambda/omega/theta/whatever variant be damned.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:School is only open right now on a limited basis with summer school and there is no MCPS testing and we are still having positives in MCPS. This doesn't include summer camps or anywhere else where young kids go.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/coronavirus/dashboard/

So, where is this 11 and under bubble that protects them?

By not testing they can ignore the majority of cases that are asymptomatic in children and pretend everything is just fine.

Even for vaccinated people there are longterm complications from COVID that are very serious.

Pretending everything is fine is my plan because the long term complications you speak of are rare (minuscule perhaps) for vaccinated healthy kids and their families and teachers. The long term complications of year 3 of disrupted school not so much. But, mcps knew you would exist and created virtual academy for you so please go do that. You will never convince me to worry and I will never convince you not to worry so we can each go to our respective camps with the solutions mcps has provided for 2021/2022.

Same here.

+1

Anyone with concerns should lobby for more spots in Virtual Academy.

The rest of us are happy to send our kids back in person, delta/lambda/omega/theta/whatever variant be damned.

The real problem isn't whether you're happy to send your kids back but the impact this has on the community. I think that's the key thing that so many people miss. What we each do affects everyone!