Would you let your child study liberal arts?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The liberal arts crowd sure is worked up! So many of these anecdotal stories are pretty much meaningless. My college dropout neighbor makes over 500k in pharma sales. You should just get a GED and make big bucks in pharma sales!

When people goof on liberal arts degrees, they aren't talking about someone who uses their liberal arts degree to get into law school. They are talking about someone who majors in something useless like sociology.



Why do you think sociology is useless?

Put your liberal arts class lessons to use in crafting a good argument against studying useless liberal arts.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The liberal arts crowd sure is worked up! So many of these anecdotal stories are pretty much meaningless. My college dropout neighbor makes over 500k in pharma sales. You should just get a GED and make big bucks in pharma sales!

When people goof on liberal arts degrees, they aren't talking about someone who uses their liberal arts degree to get into law school. They are talking about someone who majors in something useless like sociology.



Why do you think sociology is useless?

Put your liberal arts class lessons to use in crafting a good argument against studying useless liberal arts.



NP
If most college graduates can’t get a job with Sociology degree after BS/BA the market decided it is useless.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The liberal arts crowd sure is worked up! So many of these anecdotal stories are pretty much meaningless. My college dropout neighbor makes over 500k in pharma sales. You should just get a GED and make big bucks in pharma sales!

When people goof on liberal arts degrees, they aren't talking about someone who uses their liberal arts degree to get into law school. They are talking about someone who majors in something useless like sociology.



Why do you think sociology is useless?

Put your liberal arts class lessons to use in crafting a good argument against studying useless liberal arts.



NP
If most college graduates can’t get a job with Sociology degree after BS/BA the market decided it is useless.


Do you have evidence of your claim?

Even if you do, at least those graduates would be able to avoid grammatically abhorrent internet posts.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The liberal arts crowd sure is worked up! So many of these anecdotal stories are pretty much meaningless. My college dropout neighbor makes over 500k in pharma sales. You should just get a GED and make big bucks in pharma sales!

When people goof on liberal arts degrees, they aren't talking about someone who uses their liberal arts degree to get into law school. They are talking about someone who majors in something useless like sociology.



Why do you think sociology is useless?

Put your liberal arts class lessons to use in crafting a good argument against studying useless liberal arts.



NP
If most college graduates can’t get a job with Sociology degree after BS/BA the market decided it is useless.


Well good news. That isn’t the case.
Anonymous
I haven't read all replies so I'm sure this point has been made, but a good liberal arts education should give you critical thinking and writing skills, which are fairly rare and useful in any discipline. I also think a holistic education has its own inherent value. In any case, if it's all about endgame, there are plenty of ways to make money with a liberal arts degree. I'm a lawyer and my husband is a consultant and we were both history majors. We are very comfortable financially.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I haven't read all replies so I'm sure this point has been made, but a good liberal arts education should give you critical thinking and writing skills, which are fairly rare and useful in any discipline. I also think a holistic education has its own inherent value. In any case, if it's all about endgame, there are plenty of ways to make money with a liberal arts degree. I'm a lawyer and my husband is a consultant and we were both history majors. We are very comfortable financially.


We have too many lawyers and consultants in this world and “liberal arts graduates ‘automatically’ have critical thinking skills and writing skills “ bs will not work anymore in our STEM dominated world except for lucky few with connections.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I haven't read all replies so I'm sure this point has been made, but a good liberal arts education should give you critical thinking and writing skills, which are fairly rare and useful in any discipline. I also think a holistic education has its own inherent value. In any case, if it's all about endgame, there are plenty of ways to make money with a liberal arts degree. I'm a lawyer and my husband is a consultant and we were both history majors. We are very comfortable financially.


We have too many lawyers and consultants in this world and “liberal arts graduates ‘automatically’ have critical thinking skills and writing skills “ bs will not work anymore in our STEM dominated world except for lucky few with connections.


Why do you dismiss critical thinking and writing skills as unimportant? It sounds as though you have a limited life of the mind and if so I’m sorry for your limitations.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I haven't read all replies so I'm sure this point has been made, but a good liberal arts education should give you critical thinking and writing skills, which are fairly rare and useful in any discipline. I also think a holistic education has its own inherent value. In any case, if it's all about endgame, there are plenty of ways to make money with a liberal arts degree. I'm a lawyer and my husband is a consultant and we were both history majors. We are very comfortable financially.


We have too many lawyers and consultants in this world and “liberal arts graduates ‘automatically’ have critical thinking skills and writing skills “ bs will not work anymore in our STEM dominated world except for lucky few with connections.


Why do you dismiss critical thinking and writing skills as unimportant? It sounds as though you have a limited life of the mind and if so I’m sorry for your limitations.


+1. And math and science have always been included in the liberal arts.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I haven't read all replies so I'm sure this point has been made, but a good liberal arts education should give you critical thinking and writing skills, which are fairly rare and useful in any discipline. I also think a holistic education has its own inherent value. In any case, if it's all about endgame, there are plenty of ways to make money with a liberal arts degree. I'm a lawyer and my husband is a consultant and we were both history majors. We are very comfortable financially.


We have too many lawyers and consultants in this world and “liberal arts graduates ‘automatically’ have critical thinking skills and writing skills “ bs will not work anymore in our STEM dominated world except for lucky few with connections.


Why do you dismiss critical thinking and writing skills as unimportant? It sounds as though you have a limited life of the mind and if so I’m sorry for your limitations.


I think you lack critical thinking skill. The post doesn’t say critical thinking and writing skill are unimportant, only that not all liberal arts grads automatically possess such skills while STEM grads should not be assumed to lack such skills. I have seen too many liberal arts grads lacking both.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I haven't read all replies so I'm sure this point has been made, but a good liberal arts education should give you critical thinking and writing skills, which are fairly rare and useful in any discipline. I also think a holistic education has its own inherent value. In any case, if it's all about endgame, there are plenty of ways to make money with a liberal arts degree. I'm a lawyer and my husband is a consultant and we were both history majors. We are very comfortable financially.


We have too many lawyers and consultants in this world and “liberal arts graduates ‘automatically’ have critical thinking skills and writing skills “ bs will not work anymore in our STEM dominated world except for lucky few with connections.


Why do you dismiss critical thinking and writing skills as unimportant? It sounds as though you have a limited life of the mind and if so I’m sorry for your limitations.


I think you lack critical thinking skill. The post doesn’t say critical thinking and writing skill are unimportant, only that not all liberal arts grads automatically possess such skills while STEM grads should not be assumed to lack such skills. I have seen too many liberal arts grads lacking both.


Liberal Arts grads are generally better at bsing and lying which are critical skills for lawyers and consultants.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I haven't read all replies so I'm sure this point has been made, but a good liberal arts education should give you critical thinking and writing skills, which are fairly rare and useful in any discipline. I also think a holistic education has its own inherent value. In any case, if it's all about endgame, there are plenty of ways to make money with a liberal arts degree. I'm a lawyer and my husband is a consultant and we were both history majors. We are very comfortable financially.


We have too many lawyers and consultants in this world and “liberal arts graduates ‘automatically’ have critical thinking skills and writing skills “ bs will not work anymore in our STEM dominated world except for lucky few with connections.


Why do you dismiss critical thinking and writing skills as unimportant? It sounds as though you have a limited life of the mind and if so I’m sorry for your limitations.


I think you lack critical thinking skill. The post doesn’t say critical thinking and writing skill are unimportant, only that not all liberal arts grads automatically possess such skills while STEM grads should not be assumed to lack such skills. I have seen too many liberal arts grads lacking both.


Liberal Arts grads are generally better at bsing and lying which are critical skills for lawyers and consultants.


Eh it’s a living.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I haven't read all replies so I'm sure this point has been made, but a good liberal arts education should give you critical thinking and writing skills, which are fairly rare and useful in any discipline. I also think a holistic education has its own inherent value. In any case, if it's all about endgame, there are plenty of ways to make money with a liberal arts degree. I'm a lawyer and my husband is a consultant and we were both history majors. We are very comfortable financially.


We have too many lawyers and consultants in this world and “liberal arts graduates ‘automatically’ have critical thinking skills and writing skills “ bs will not work anymore in our STEM dominated world except for lucky few with connections.


Why do you dismiss critical thinking and writing skills as unimportant? It sounds as though you have a limited life of the mind and if so I’m sorry for your limitations.


I think you lack critical thinking skill. The post doesn’t say critical thinking and writing skill are unimportant, only that not all liberal arts grads automatically possess such skills while STEM grads should not be assumed to lack such skills. I have seen too many liberal arts grads lacking both.


Liberal Arts grads are generally better at bsing and lying which are critical skills for lawyers and consultants.


Eh it’s a living.


Heck of a way to make a living.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The liberal arts crowd sure is worked up! So many of these anecdotal stories are pretty much meaningless. My college dropout neighbor makes over 500k in pharma sales. You should just get a GED and make big bucks in pharma sales!

When people goof on liberal arts degrees, they aren't talking about someone who uses their liberal arts degree to get into law school. They are talking about someone who majors in something useless like sociology.



Sociology isn’t useless. I work as an attorney for a federal agency and most days use my sociology degree more than my English degree or even my law degree.


You make decent money because you have a law degree and work as a lawyer. Majors like psychology or sociology are a joke, especially now that college can easily cost well over 100k. The classes are pretty much all the same. You have some nutty professor rambling on about stuff that is borderline insane and has no relevance to the real world.


DP here. You seem to have disdain for the inherent value of education and how it prepares one for varied success. You not only express that disdain, you demonstrate it.


That depends on your chosen career. A college degree absolutely makes you more marketable and will likely create opportunities that don't exist without a degree. But most majors don't even come close to giving you the skills you need to do a particular job. I probably learned more from working crappy jobs than I did reading books and writing papers. You are literally doing the exact same thing over and over again for four years. What a bore.



Your anti-intellectual position is consistent. But what you learned in college may not be the same as what others learn. And this is me responding kindly.


I'm anti-intellectual because I'm a realist and decided to study in a field with a relatively high starting salary?

What you learned doesn't matter because it doesn't mean that you have a marketable skill. And trust me, the market has determined that a 4 year degree in sociology or psychology is one step above burger flipper at McDonalds.
Anonymous
The liberal arts are designed to teach people how to think for themselves and become contributing and productive members of society. This is precisely what we need more of in a time of growing polarization when more people are adopting a hive mentality and having other people do the thinking for them.
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Anonymous wrote:The liberal arts crowd sure is worked up! So many of these anecdotal stories are pretty much meaningless. My college dropout neighbor makes over 500k in pharma sales. You should just get a GED and make big bucks in pharma sales!

When people goof on liberal arts degrees, they aren't talking about someone who uses their liberal arts degree to get into law school. They are talking about someone who majors in something useless like sociology.



Sociology isn’t useless. I work as an attorney for a federal agency and most days use my sociology degree more than my English degree or even my law degree.


You make decent money because you have a law degree and work as a lawyer. Majors like psychology or sociology are a joke, especially now that college can easily cost well over 100k. The classes are pretty much all the same. You have some nutty professor rambling on about stuff that is borderline insane and has no relevance to the real world.


DP here. You seem to have disdain for the inherent value of education and how it prepares one for varied success. You not only express that disdain, you demonstrate it.


That depends on your chosen career. A college degree absolutely makes you more marketable and will likely create opportunities that don't exist without a degree. But most majors don't even come close to giving you the skills you need to do a particular job. I probably learned more from working crappy jobs than I did reading books and writing papers. You are literally doing the exact same thing over and over again for four years. What a bore.



Your anti-intellectual position is consistent. But what you learned in college may not be the same as what others learn. And this is me responding kindly.


I'm anti-intellectual because I'm a realist and decided to study in a field with a relatively high starting salary?

What you learned doesn't matter because it doesn't mean that you have a marketable skill. And trust me, the market has determined that a 4 year degree in sociology or psychology is one step above burger flipper at McDonalds.


No, you are anti-intellectual because you literally disdain the benefit of “reading books and writing papers”.
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