Letter to Brearly Parents Decrying CRT Indoctrination

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a very liberal person, but I actually agree with some of his points. Mainly, why does everything have to be about race? We have so much common ground among us as human beings, why do we have to constantly talk about race?

I've got kids at 2 independent schools. My DS (senior this year) has done countless projects this year on white fragility and systemic racism. He's been taught that anyone who is older, or who lived in the past was racist. He made some comment about how "all baby boomers are racist." I said that's absurd and asked if he thinks his grandmother is a racist (as she is a baby boomer)?

Yeah the new curriculum’s block and tackles discussion right out of the block. Our lower school child was told both for gender units and for anti racism theory that he shouldn’t expect his parents to necessarily agree or know what he is learning. And to teach and advocate his learnings and avoid toxic people who don’t agree.
Needless to say we’ll be abandoning our deposit late May after several years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:His kid is coming home talking and asking questions that are making him uncomfortable. So he's going to withdraw instead of understand.

Hahahaha. Understand highly controversial political theories? And only presenting one side, that side?
This needs to stay OUT of children’s school. Hence the letters and withdrawals and leadership changes.

[Anonymous]

Isn't this the heart of his complaint - that more students and teachers of color will make the school dumber and less prestigious?

I object to the lowering of standards for the admission of students and for the hiring of teachers. I object to the erosion of rigor in classwork and the escalation of grade inflation. Any parent with eyes open can foresee these inevitabilities should antiracism initiatives be allowed to persist.

Good thing there's no more systemic racism, Brearley dad.

[Anonymous]

Not at all. He’s arguing for upholding standards.

You’re making the argument that teachers and students of color can’t make the standard.

That’s racist.

[Anonymous]

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You should find out how Germans approach the Holocaust and the vast contrast with how we approach, say, Slavery. Suffice it to say they don't use holocaust sites as wedding venues.

This.

+1000
Or have public institutions named after famous Nazis.

Is someone here trying to compare one country’s leader who caused a European based world war with the concept of slavery which existed in practice for 1000s of years on every continent? And still continues today in some areas?

Makes me want to see how silly these woke schools’ debate teams think/talk. Has discussion and debate now changed to gaslighting and deflecting? The more office the wall tangents the better= win. Just shut down the discussion with the most outlandish stuff?

Read it again. It's not th histories that are being compared, but the vast distances in contemporary reaction.

But I do think you'll find that Germans don't blow it off as just "one leader", whereas here we don't have the reckoning with how deeply it is embedded in our society, not just historically but also contemporaneously. You're on the way to recognizing it though.

[Anonymous]

I don’t agree with all of the letter and think he has flat out wrong their is no systematic racism but I do agree with what Gutmann pointed out the school has begun to teach what to think, instead of how to think. There is only one correct answer when dealing with anything about race. I say this is a POC that this really is concerning.

I also think the response from the school illustrates this. Anyone speaking out to state their opinion is to be viewed as not just as having a differing opinion but to always be seen as Jane Fried, Brearley's head of school, said in a reply “deeply offensive and harmful.'

She went in to write in a response that somehow students are intimidated and frightened. Because they are so fragile they can’t bear to hear a differing opinion? That is what you want your child to learn? Differing opinions are frightening and you need to cower?
Response from the school:
'This afternoon, I and others who work closely with Upper School students met with more than one hundred of them, many of whom told us that they felt frightened and intimidated by the letter and the fact that it was sent directly to our homes,' Fried wrote.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not at all. He’s arguing for upholding standards.

You’re making the argument that teachers and students of color can’t make the standard.

That’s racist.

Gutmann is the racist. It's his argument.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This person actually thinks Donald Trump won the election so I am not wasting more time on them. Not reachable and not worth it. Brain fried by Fox, OAN, and Q conspiracies.

If you would have watched the hours of evidentiary hearings in the state legislatures in MI, PA, GA, AZ & NV, you would have seen the evidence for yourself. But, no, it is you who was brain fried by main stream media who led you to believe otherwise. Just because you let the media form your opinions doesn't mean everyone does.

Those weren't evidentiary hearings. And many of them were not even in the Captiols but in rented ballrooms. I mean, haven't you seen Sydney Powell's defamation defense?

IOW, if there was evidence, why wasn't it presented in the courts when the situation was fluid? Hint, it wasn't because there wasn't any.

You been duped, hon.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am tired of being an open minded liberal just trying to exchange views and get conservatives to see my side and explain theirs to me when today's conservatives are QAnon and Fox News lobotomized robots who don't understand history and don't want to learn anything. They are convinced they are right and they will fight dirty to get their way, whether it's babies in cages at the border or denying Merrick Garland a hearing even while they push Barrett through in a fraction of the time or storming the Capitol. These people don't care about what's right or what's just, they just want to have their way because they think they know better.

Leave the fancy private schools some of you have been sending your kids to. That's great. More room for us. Enjoy your isolation with like thinking trolls and frog people. I tried caring about you and you disappointed me every time. Go sit at the bar and complain about how this economy has left you behind -- no one is coming to interview you anymore. You are hurting this country with your backwards ideas and your white, white butthurt. Do better (but take your time, we don't need you).

You want others to “see your side” but if you are honest with yourself, do you see any other side? You accuse others of being ignorant of history and not wanting to learn anything, yet you seem very angry, and I would suspect you are trying to “teach” others versus really listening and truly being open minded. Just a thought. Most people are generally moderate, but extremes on both sides are dangerous. You should self-assess and see where you fall, it may be eye opening. Plus most mainstream people, even conservatives, are not QAnon.

You are funny. Oh yeah let me do a little self reflection and I'll get right back to you, while meanwhile you will continue to deny that racism exists, police treat black people differently, Joe Biden actually won the election, and voter suppression is wrong. Just carry on over there denying reality while telling liberals who care about the country that they are taking things too far.

A black man DARED TO KNEEL during the anthem at a football game and white conservatives cancelled him and his career and told black athletes to shut up because they should stick to sports. Meanwhile police are shooting or killing black people left and right while gun carrying anarchists at the Capitol don't get arrested, but prove to me that systemic racism still exists because my eyes can't seem to see any? Open your eyes, you are the problem in this country.

I actually don’t deny any of the things you said above. I just try to hear both sides of any situation and I read both liberal and conservative press so I can form my own opinions because both sides are extremely bias. I doubt you do the same.

So what is the "other side" of slavery or the holocaust?

[Anonymous]

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The only true systemic racism today is the DOJ ruling that colleges are allowed to discriminate against Asian applicants despite being more qualified. Everything else is just individual bias that is not consistent with the law. Systemic racism is Jim Crow laws, Japanese internment, Nazi laws against Jews, educational exclusion of Jews, Chinese Exclusionary Act...all pre-1960's. In America today, anyone with the determination to get ahead can do so without a law getting in the way. Even so, in my opinion, although not true systemic racism, the closest thing to it today is the dumbing down of American public education and the welfare system that encourages single-parent households. While these two things affect both Blacks and Whites, it disproportionately affects Blacks and makes it very difficult to get ahead. However, with enough determination, ability and luck, it's possible for these people to get ahead because there are no laws prohibiting it. This cannot be said for many other countries. That is why immigrants come to America and tend to do better here than their American-born counterparts because they don't internalize the hurt caused by individual bias and allow it to make them a victim. Victim mentality is a sort of internal prison.

This is a common tactic by the right against the left: to attack the words. Defund the police. Black lives matter. Systemic racism. You poke holes in the words. Fine. Words matter, and the left is picky about language, too. But what lefties (like me) often hear is that those on the right dismiss the words and reject the conversation in whole.

So how do we have this conversation about what many call systemic racism and you and many others call a collection of individual biases? This bias plays out against people of color in multiple venues. In schools. When dealing with police. In courts. In housing. In the professional world. While walking. While birdwatching.

So it's not codified in law, but it sure is pervasive. How do we talk about it and how do we make our society more just?

I know how! Let’s teach only one viewpoint and political ideology to kids age 5-18 while they’re at school each day!

We don't teach the "other side" of the holocaust or other atrocities. If something is wrong, it's wrong. Racism is wrong. Allowing people like you to persist under the illusion that you simply posses a different viewpoint, than the reality that you do not believe in doing what is necessary to make the equality of races possible.

Terrible analogy. This is like teaching all German schoolchildren today that they should feel guilty about the holocaust and all German Jews to hate the German gentiles. This is ridiculous, its child abuse.

Uh, the Germans actually do this. How ignorant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not at all. He’s arguing for upholding standards.

You’re making the argument that teachers and students of color can’t make the standard.

That’s racist.

Standards ARE being upheld. There is no degrading of rigor at these schools. He just is a snowflake that doesn't like of the content his kid is being exposed to.

[Anonymous]

What a racists-hole! I can’t believe anyone would attach their name to that letter publicly. How shaming for the daughter and spouse!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am tired of being an open minded liberal just trying to exchange views and get conservatives to see my side and explain theirs to me when today's conservatives are QAnon and Fox News lobotomized robots who don't understand history and don't want to learn anything. They are convinced they are right and they will fight dirty to get their way, whether it's babies in cages at the border or denying Merrick Garland a hearing even while they push Barrett through in a fraction of the time or storming the Capitol. These people don't care about what's right or what's just, they just want to have their way because they think they know better.

Leave the fancy private schools some of you have been sending your kids to. That's great. More room for us. Enjoy your isolation with like thinking trolls and frog people. I tried caring about you and you disappointed me every time. Go sit at the bar and complain about how this economy has left you behind -- no one is coming to interview you anymore. You are hurting this country with your backwards ideas and your white, white butthurt. Do better (but take your time, we don't need you).

You want others to “see your side” but if you are honest with yourself, do you see any other side? You accuse others of being ignorant of history and not wanting to learn anything, yet you seem very angry, and I would suspect you are trying to “teach” others versus really listening and truly being open minded. Just a thought. Most people are generally moderate, but extremes on both sides are dangerous. You should self-assess and see where you fall, it may be eye opening. Plus most mainstream people, even conservatives, are not QAnon.

The other side is that humans have the capability to do bad things. I would add that slavery in Africa included African people enslaving others and there were also slave owners in USA who were black. It happened. Holocaust was an example that needs to be explained when rights are taken away and people are encouraged to go after people. Let’s also not forgot what happened to the Japanese in our own country. We should not be so naive not to discuss that what is going on on in the world with encouraging groups to hate each other and the media censoring opinions trying to create only one voice. This is dangerous. If people stepped back. We all want the same things pretty much but there is a push to separate and it is happening right here in our schools.

You are funny. Oh yeah let me do a little self reflection and I'll get right back to you, while meanwhile you will continue to deny that racism exists, police treat black people differently, Joe Biden actually won the election, and voter suppression is wrong. Just carry on over there denying reality while telling liberals who care about the country that they are taking things too far.

A black man DARED TO KNEEL during the anthem at a football game and white conservatives cancelled him and his career and told black athletes to shut up because they should stick to sports. Meanwhile police are shooting or killing black people left and right while gun carrying anarchists at the Capitol don't get arrested, but prove to me that systemic racism still exists because my eyes can't seem to see any? Open your eyes, you are the problem in this country.

I actually don’t deny any of the things you said above. I just try to hear both sides of any situation and I read both liberal and conservative press so I can form my own opinions because both sides are extremely bias. I doubt you do the same.

So what is the "other side" of slavery or the holocaust?

[Anonymous]

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The only true systemic racism today is the DOJ ruling that colleges are allowed to discriminate against Asian applicants despite being more qualified. Everything else is just individual bias that is not consistent with the law. Systemic racism is Jim Crow laws, Japanese internment, Nazi laws against Jews, educational exclusion of Jews, Chinese Exclusionary Act...all pre-1960's. In America today, anyone with the determination to get ahead can do so without a law getting in the way. Even so, in my opinion, although not true systemic racism, the closest thing to it today is the dumbing down of American public education and the welfare system that encourages single-parent households. While these two things affect both Blacks and Whites, it disproportionately affects Blacks and makes it very difficult to get ahead. However, with enough determination, ability and luck, it's possible for these people to get ahead because there are no laws prohibiting it. This cannot be said for many other countries. That is why immigrants come to America and tend to do better here than their American-born counterparts because they don't internalize the hurt caused by individual bias and allow it to make them a victim. Victim mentality is a sort of internal prison.

This is a common tactic by the right against the left: to attack the words. Defund the police. Black lives matter. Systemic racism. You poke holes in the words. Fine. Words matter, and the left is picky about language, too. But what lefties (like me) often hear is that those on the right dismiss the words and reject the conversation in whole.

So how do we have this conversation about what many call systemic racism and you and many others call a collection of individual biases? This bias plays out against people of color in multiple venues. In schools. When dealing with police. In courts. In housing. In the professional world. While walking. While birdwatching.

So it's not codified in law, but it sure is pervasive. How do we talk about it and how do we make our society more just?

I know how! Let’s teach only one viewpoint and political ideology to kids age 5-18 while they’re at school each day!

We don't teach the "other side" of the holocaust or other atrocities. If something is wrong, it's wrong. Racism is wrong. Allowing people like you to persist under the illusion that you simply posses a different viewpoint, than the reality that you do not believe in doing what is necessary to make the equality of races possible.

Terrible analogy. This is like teaching all German schoolchildren today that they should feel guilty about the holocaust and all German Jews to hate the German gentiles. This is ridiculous, its child abuse.

Uh, the Germans actually do this. How ignorant.

Just like Americans perpetuated slavery. We all believe there is only one side to a Holocaust discussion. Perhaps slavery and racism could be framed in similar terms.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Also wanted to add that education on how our country was formed-the truth-makes sense. The ongoing narrative of every White person is entitled is not accurate or positive for moving our country in an include manner.

Is that the narrative? I thought the narrative was to understand how our country was formed- the truth as you say- and understand how that history continues to shape the world we live in today and speak up about it. That’s it. It’s not personal. It’s not about you. No one says every white person is entitled.[i][u][b] This is classic white defensiveness and centering yourself. It’s asking white people to recognize we continue to benefit from the systems that were intentionally put in place for white people to benefit, even if the laws are no longer explicitly racist.

Further, this part of the letter kills me - systemic racism is over. You’re going to rig the system for 350 years and then say whoops never mind, our bad, sorry...and then it’s just a level playing field and everyone should shut up about it and go do their best because now it’s all fixed? It might be more complicated than that. Just a thought.

lol