Will DC metro be a good fit for us ideologically?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Move outside the beltway then.

You are going to tell me that all DC republicans, half of the Congress and Senate and their aides, etc all live outside of Beltway?

They don’t live here, period. (The members themselves, that is.) They keep their house and family in their home district/state, and travel back and forth. The days of Congressional families growing up here are long gone. These days, it’s the member keeping a tiny apartment or sharing a group house that serves as a crash pad Tuesday through Thursday.

OP, you seem to have a very Hollywood notion of what life in the Washington area is like. You also seem to be spoiling for a fight. Our neighborhoods here are likely very much like the ones you have at home: the higher the price tag, the more homogeneous and conservative the residents. But I’m sure if you look hard, you can find a neighborhood that proves or disproves whatever notions you’ve cultivated based on your determinedly anti-woke, anti-liberal “only I know the real story” media consumption. The rest of us are just gonna sit over here with our Post or FT or Hill or ASAE member bulletin and use the back of it to make our grocery list, same as always.

Agree, OP seems to be very fixated on this and it is just plain weird. I don't know where you live right now that this is such a problem, and I can't help but wonder if the problem might be you?

People who can only learn about a place through media and social media are never going to have a real picture of what life is really like, so some slack is warranted. Then again, everyone today should understand that you need to take everything "reported" with a giant lost shaker of salt. I had a friend back home who believed you couldn't go out to eat in DC without having protesters yelling in your face because apparently that happened to one person one day, but it went viral on social media and lead people to believe that is a common, all day long, everywhere occurrence, lol.

Anyway, OP, in my neighborhood in NW DC you will find very few political signs at all. People sometimes discuss politics more than in other places because it tends to be related to their jobs and national news is somewhat local news too. As such, the conversations are not emotionally heated, but intellectual and based on what they are actually doing and working on in real life. But, people are basically normal, living their lives.

[Anonymous]

+1. The piece of the GOP that’s gone full QAnon/ Big Lie, as opposed to the traditional conservative wing.

Traditional conservatives are outnumbered in Fairfax County, but it’s fine. Agree to disagree and move on. Plenty of old school GOP I like and respect. Kids are friends, don’t talk politics, it’s fine.

After 1/6, Trump supporters aren’t welcome. Full stop. Really, after C-vile I had a friend in the Capitol. Many of us had connections. The National Guard taking over the city has been awful. These people are dangerous and violent and crazy. They are white super sits who threaten my Asian neighbors. So, no I can’t peacefully co-exist with them. I’m woke. They are cancelled. Whatever. They have done so much damage. So many people have died. The fact OP is looking for Trump and Biden supporters to just get along tells he doesn’t belong in Fairfax Co.

Strong co-sign. The fact that OP is looking for someplace wehre Trump signs are welcome, rather than literally any other GOP figure, suggests he's much further to the right than he admits. You won't find many Trump supporters in DC (other than GOP Congressional Reps riding that gravy train) in part because a defining feature of seeking government service is believing that institutions matter. That's as true for a Senate aide as it is for an NIH scientist. If you believe that America is already great, and that our institutions are valuable, you can't line up behind Trump so most folks here don't.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are considering moving from a very large liberal city where our kids attend a very diverse school. We are looking for a place that would be politically diverse and where people are generally open minded and not up in arms if you are not woke enough or don't uniformly recite CNN and/or liberal outlets or vice versa, we don't discriminate. We are likely to live in the residential or suburban area as we want more space and outdoors. I really dislike wokeness in general, so a woke neighborhood would not be a good fit, neither would be predominantly hard core republican or religious area. I am hoping DC metro is a mix due to it being the seat of power and variety of political views represented. Is this true?

If you use the word "woke" and you're not being sarcastic, you won't be welcome in any community of educated people.

DC Metro is basically: highly educated smart people, people who want to make the world a better place, nonprofit types, minorities. This means: the Democratic party of the US.

DC is highly Democratic because smart people in America are highly Democratic. (The GOP is basically 2-400 billionaires who run the party, a bunch of craven, lying apparatchiks who staff the party, and many millions of white, lied-to base voters that don't realize the billionaires are deceiving them. For example, CNN is a corporate outlet which Jeff Zucker used to help get Trump elected. Many people in DC realize this.)

Also DC has some parachuted-in conservative ideologues, who come in paid by Charles Koch and the rest of the billionaires. These people, to the endless amusement of DC residents, have severe trouble dating in the DC area, except amongst other conservative extremists. Twice a year there is an article in a local news outlet describing how surprised conservatives are when they get here and realize everyone in DC laughs at them for being conservative-funded affirmative action hacks and looks down on them. Quite amazing.

You should come here. You might learn a lot from the diverse smart people here.

First and foremost the magnificently hilarious alloy of arrogance+ignorance their bubbles are crafted out of!

So you think there aren't smart people in this town?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: Trust me, if you disagree with the CNN narrative, you will feel the weight of politics everywhere here. Other parts of the country get on with life and only pay attention to politics during elections, etc., here... politics is life.

Which CNN narrative, the one that Jeff Zucker pushed to make himself and his investors lots of money that got Trump elected?
The one that involved him hiring inveterate liars Jeff Lord, Corey Lewandowski, and Rick Santorum?

This CNN narrative?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/04/magazine/cnn-had-a-problem-donald-trump-solved-it.html

As Tapper cross-examined Conway — “the White House is waging war on people who are providing information” — Zucker paced behind the show’s production team like a coach on the sidelines, his hands alternately stuffed into his pockets, pressed up against the sides of his bald head, then squeezing the shoulder of one of the producers seated in front of him.

CNN’s Washington bureau chief, Sam Feist, told Zucker that the interview had been going for six minutes, the length they agreed to with the White House.

The director was again preparing to cut away from Tapper to focus on Conway, this time as she explained that the administration had “a very high respect for the truth.”

“Hey, doubles!” Zucker said. “Doubles.”

Zucker prodded a producer to pass along a question to Tapper through his earpiece: “Have you guys ever made any mistakes?”

Tapper obliged, with a slight rephrase: “Have you or President Trump ever said anything incorrect?”

Feist, meanwhile, was staring at his phone, looking agitated. He was receiving unhappy texts from a CNN producer at the White House.

“The White House wants her to stop,” he said.

“She wants to talk,” Zucker answered. “Let him finish.”

CNN’s communications director, Lauren Pratapas, who happened to be in the control room, had an idea. She fed it to Zucker, who instantly repeated it to the producer: “Does she consider us fake news?”

“Are we fake news, Kellyanne?” Tapper asked seconds later. “Is CNN fake news?”

“I don’t think CNN is fake news,” Conway replied.

A new chyron soon appeared on-screen: “CONWAY: I DON’T THINK CNN IS FAKE NEWS.”

The CNN narrative that's all about chasing profits, not truth?

Jake Tapper is often literally told what to said by corporate suits that are chasing profits.

Other parts of the country get on with life and only pay attention to politics during elections, etc., here... politics is life.

Politics is people's lives, and there's a reason why conservatives in America tell people not to talk about politics -- while rightwing donors are using politics to reach into the pockets of other parts of the country and steal their tax dollars.
Politics is peoples' lives. We should all be talking about it more often.

(CNN is not politics. CNN is entertainment. There's a big difference.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Trust me, if you disagree with the CNN narrative, you will feel the weight of politics everywhere here. Other parts of the country get on with life and only pay attention to politics during elections, etc., here... politics is life.

Which CNN narrative, the one that Jeff Zucker pushed to make himself and his investors lots of money that got Trump elected?
The one that involved him hiring inveterate liars Jeff Lord, Corey Lewandowski, and Rick Santorum?

This CNN narrative?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/04/magazine/cnn-had-a-problem-donald-trump-solved-it.html

As Tapper cross-examined Conway — “the White House is waging war on people who are providing information” — Zucker paced behind the show’s production team like a coach on the sidelines, his hands alternately stuffed into his pockets, pressed up against the sides of his bald head, then squeezing the shoulder of one of the producers seated in front of him.

CNN’s Washington bureau chief, Sam Feist, told Zucker that the interview had been going for six minutes, the length they agreed to with the White House.

The director was again preparing to cut away from Tapper to focus on Conway, this time as she explained that the administration had “a very high respect for the truth.”

“Hey, doubles!” Zucker said. “Doubles.”

Zucker prodded a producer to pass along a question to Tapper through his earpiece: “Have you guys ever made any mistakes?”

Tapper obliged, with a slight rephrase: “Have you or President Trump ever said anything incorrect?”

Feist, meanwhile, was staring at his phone, looking agitated. He was receiving unhappy texts from a CNN producer at the White House.

“The White House wants her to stop,” he said.

“She wants to talk,” Zucker answered. “Let him finish.”

CNN’s communications director, Lauren Pratapas, who happened to be in the control room, had an idea. She fed it to Zucker, who instantly repeated it to the producer: “Does she consider us fake news?”

“Are we fake news, Kellyanne?” Tapper asked seconds later. “Is CNN fake news?”

“I don’t think CNN is fake news,” Conway replied.

A new chyron soon appeared on-screen: “CONWAY: I DON’T THINK CNN IS FAKE NEWS.”

The CNN narrative that's all about chasing profits, not truth?

Jake Tapper is often literally told what to said by corporate suits that are chasing profits.

Other parts of the country get on with life and only pay attention to politics during elections, etc., here... politics is life.

Politics is people's lives, and there's a reason why conservatives in America tell people not to talk about politics -- while rightwing donors are using politics to reach into the pockets of other parts of the country and steal their tax dollars.
Politics is peoples' lives. We should all be talking about it more often.

(CNN is not politics. CNN is entertainment. There's a big difference.)

Anyone who takes cable news too seriously probably isn't a good fit here.

Turn off the TV, bro.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are considering moving from a very large liberal city where our kids attend a very diverse school. We are looking for a place that would be politically diverse and where people are generally open minded and not up in arms if you are not woke enough or don't uniformly recite CNN and/or liberal outlets or vice versa, we don't discriminate. We are likely to live in the residential or suburban area as we want more space and outdoors. I really dislike wokeness in general, so a woke neighborhood would not be a good fit, neither would be predominantly hard core republican or religious area. I am hoping DC metro is a mix due to it being the seat of power and variety of political views represented. Is this true?

If you use the word "woke" and you're not being sarcastic, you won't be welcome in any community of educated people.

DC Metro is basically: highly educated smart people, people who want to make the world a better place, nonprofit types, minorities. This means: the Democratic party of the US.

DC is highly Democratic because smart people in America are highly Democratic. (The GOP is basically 2-400 billionaires who run the party, a bunch of craven, lying apparatchiks who staff the party, and many millions of white, lied-to base voters that don't realize the billionaires are deceiving them. For example, CNN is a corporate outlet which Jeff Zucker used to help get Trump elected. Many people in DC realize this.)

Also DC has some parachuted-in conservative ideologues, who come in paid by Charles Koch and the rest of the billionaires. These people, to the endless amusement of DC residents, have severe trouble dating in the DC area, except amongst other conservative extremists. Twice a year there is an article in a local news outlet describing how surprised conservatives are when they get here and realize everyone in DC laughs at them for being conservative-funded affirmative action hacks and looks down on them. Quite amazing.

You should come here. You might learn a lot from the diverse smart people here.

Truth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Trust me, if you disagree with the CNN narrative, you will feel the weight of politics everywhere here. Other parts of the country get on with life and only pay attention to politics during elections, etc., here... politics is life.

Which CNN narrative, the one that Jeff Zucker pushed to make himself and his investors lots of money that got Trump elected?
The one that involved him hiring inveterate liars Jeff Lord, Corey Lewandowski, and Rick Santorum?

This CNN narrative?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/04/magazine/cnn-had-a-problem-donald-trump-solved-it.html

As Tapper cross-examined Conway — “the White House is waging war on people who are providing information” — Zucker paced behind the show’s production team like a coach on the sidelines, his hands alternately stuffed into his pockets, pressed up against the sides of his bald head, then squeezing the shoulder of one of the producers seated in front of him.

CNN’s Washington bureau chief, Sam Feist, told Zucker that the interview had been going for six minutes, the length they agreed to with the White House.

The director was again preparing to cut away from Tapper to focus on Conway, this time as she explained that the administration had “a very high respect for the truth.”

“Hey, doubles!” Zucker said. “Doubles.”

Zucker prodded a producer to pass along a question to Tapper through his earpiece: “Have you guys ever made any mistakes?”

Tapper obliged, with a slight rephrase: “Have you or President Trump ever said anything incorrect?”

Feist, meanwhile, was staring at his phone, looking agitated. He was receiving unhappy texts from a CNN producer at the White House.

“The White House wants her to stop,” he said.

“She wants to talk,” Zucker answered. “Let him finish.”

CNN’s communications director, Lauren Pratapas, who happened to be in the control room, had an idea. She fed it to Zucker, who instantly repeated it to the producer: “Does she consider us fake news?”

“Are we fake news, Kellyanne?” Tapper asked seconds later. “Is CNN fake news?”

“I don’t think CNN is fake news,” Conway replied.

A new chyron soon appeared on-screen: “CONWAY: I DON’T THINK CNN IS FAKE NEWS.”

The CNN narrative that's all about chasing profits, not truth?

Jake Tapper is often literally told what to said by corporate suits that are chasing profits.

Other parts of the country get on with life and only pay attention to politics during elections, etc., here... politics is life.

Politics is people's lives, and there's a reason why conservatives in America tell people not to talk about politics -- while rightwing donors are using politics to reach into the pockets of other parts of the country and steal their tax dollars.
Politics is peoples' lives. We should all be talking about it more often.

(CNN is not politics. CNN is entertainment. There's a big difference.)

Like the CNN narrative on Charlottesville... Debunked a million times, but cited in this thread by multiple PPs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Trust me, if you disagree with the CNN narrative, you will feel the weight of politics everywhere here. Other parts of the country get on with life and only pay attention to politics during elections, etc., here... politics is life.

Which CNN narrative, the one that Jeff Zucker pushed to make himself and his investors lots of money that got Trump elected?
The one that involved him hiring inveterate liars Jeff Lord, Corey Lewandowski, and Rick Santorum?

This CNN narrative?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/04/magazine/cnn-had-a-problem-donald-trump-solved-it.html

As Tapper cross-examined Conway — “the White House is waging war on people who are providing information” — Zucker paced behind the show’s production team like a coach on the sidelines, his hands alternately stuffed into his pockets, pressed up against the sides of his bald head, then squeezing the shoulder of one of the producers seated in front of him.

CNN’s Washington bureau chief, Sam Feist, told Zucker that the interview had been going for six minutes, the length they agreed to with the White House.

The director was again preparing to cut away from Tapper to focus on Conway, this time as she explained that the administration had “a very high respect for the truth.”

“Hey, doubles!” Zucker said. “Doubles.”

Zucker prodded a producer to pass along a question to Tapper through his earpiece: “Have you guys ever made any mistakes?”

Tapper obliged, with a slight rephrase: “Have you or President Trump ever said anything incorrect?”

Feist, meanwhile, was staring at his phone, looking agitated. He was receiving unhappy texts from a CNN producer at the White House.

“The White House wants her to stop,” he said.

“She wants to talk,” Zucker answered. “Let him finish.”

CNN’s communications director, Lauren Pratapas, who happened to be in the control room, had an idea. She fed it to Zucker, who instantly repeated it to the producer: “Does she consider us fake news?”

“Are we fake news, Kellyanne?” Tapper asked seconds later. “Is CNN fake news?”

“I don’t think CNN is fake news,” Conway replied.

A new chyron soon appeared on-screen: “CONWAY: I DON’T THINK CNN IS FAKE NEWS.”

The CNN narrative that's all about chasing profits, not truth?

Jake Tapper is often literally told what to said by corporate suits that are chasing profits.

Other parts of the country get on with life and only pay attention to politics during elections, etc., here... politics is life.

Politics is people's lives, and there's a reason why conservatives in America tell people not to talk about politics -- while rightwing donors are using politics to reach into the pockets of other parts of the country and steal their tax dollars.
Politics is peoples' lives. We should all be talking about it more often.

(CNN is not politics. CNN is entertainment. There's a big difference.)

Exactly what I mean about skewed values and priorities. Lots of us think family and hard work and leisure and religion and cultural heritage are peoples' lives. Government can only interfere with those things, so no politics is not peoples' lives unless they are lacking in all of the above.

[Anonymous]

Exactly what I mean about skewed values and priorities. Lots of us think family and hard work and leisure and religion and cultural heritage are peoples' lives. Government can only interfere with those things, so no politics is not peoples' lives unless they are lacking in all of the above.

Yes, this is indeed what Rupert Murdoch and Charles Koch tell you to think, while they get richer and richer and richer at your expense, siphoning all the profits out of the economy to the top. While your kids and friends are left behind by opiods and terrible unfunded healthcare.

Politics is people's lives because government is how we accomplish societal goals. The Founders knew that. Much of America knows that. Conservatives have been told not to believe that so the very weathy can screw average people.

People in DC see through the falsehoods and know the truth. This is why conservatives hate DC people. And it's why OP should move here - it's a great place to live with good people who have good values.

[Anonymous]

Dunno. I don’t talk politics with my neighbors. I live in Arlington and although some of the politicians and the school board can lean towards “woke” I don’t feel that’s the case with my neighbors. I lean left myself but more so when it comes to economic issues. As a POC, I do think race and racial issues are important. But I feel like the current brand of woke Ras that is all about white fragility just creates discord and doesn’t resolve much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dunno. I don’t talk politics with my neighbors. I live in Arlington and although some of the politicians and the school board can lean towards “woke” I don’t feel that’s the case with my neighbors. I lean left myself but more so when it comes to economic issues. As a POC, I do think race and racial issues are important. But I feel like the current brand of woke Ras that is all about white fragility just creates discord and doesn’t resolve much.

Oh and I hate cnn and msnbc. Like I said I lean left

[Anonymous]

Like the CNN narrative on Charlottesville... Debunked a million times, but cited in this thread by multiple PPs.

What is the “CNN narrative on C-ville that was debunked”? I don’t watch CNN so not sure what this is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are considering moving from a very large liberal city where our kids attend a very diverse school. We are looking for a place that would be politically diverse and where people are generally open minded and not up in arms if you are not woke enough or don't uniformly recite CNN and/or liberal outlets or vice versa, we don't discriminate. We are likely to live in the residential or suburban area as we want more space and outdoors. I really dislike wokeness in general, so a woke neighborhood would not be a good fit, neither would be predominantly hard core republican or religious area. I am hoping DC metro is a mix due to it being the seat of power and variety of political views represented. Is this true?

I already live in Montgomery County, but I am moving to a different town here -- Derwood. Which is more laid back politically. It's not "all" anyone talks about, which seems to be the case in other areas of MoCo. Derwood is still mostly liberal. Just not rabid. However, overall, the political discussions in Montgomery County are extremely liberal. Very liberal Council, County Executive, etc.

Derwood is also near a bunch of parks, and right on the metro. I love it, of course, since I'm moving there. But check it out if it seems appealing.

[Anonymous]

This thread is so weird. I don’t get together with my neighbors and talk politics all the time. It’s much more likely we are talking about the usual that everyone does. That’s not to say politics have never entered a conversation but it’s rare. We live in neighborhoods, not on politics forums or Fox News comment sections. It’s actually the hard right Republicans in my life that can’t seem to help bringing politics into literally every single conversation. I avoid them. I don’t mind politics talk but I don’t want a talk about the rain we just had to turn into a rant about how liberals are making up global warming. Most neighbors are good to each other, help out, and have friendly chats. I saw a couple Trump signs in my neighborhood but it was predominately Biden. Scratch that, predominately no signs but Biden signs far outnumbered Trump. The 270 widening is a lot bigger deal around here than yard signs. I’m in Rockville.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dunno. I don’t talk politics with my neighbors. I live in Arlington and although some of the politicians and the school board can lean towards “woke” I don’t feel that’s the case with my neighbors. I lean left myself but more so when it comes to economic issues. As a POC, I do think race and racial issues are important. But I feel like the current brand of woke Ras that is all about white fragility just creates discord and doesn’t resolve much.

Oh and I hate cnn and msnbc. Like I said I lean left

Because they are corporate-biased and they help the rich and powerful screw average Americans?

That is correct, but it's typically not held by "lean left"ers - it's normally people who analyze structural problems with American media who hold that opinion.