With teachers vaccinated, why are we still talking about hybrid, and not a full return to school?

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Anonymous wrote:I was surprised it was a hybrid/ concurrent model and not just a concurrent one. Couldn’t we have just bought some extra trailers or rented space with the CARES money? Who knows? Unfortunately, leadership just charges ahead with a plan without soliciting feedback from stakeholders, first.

And how to you multiply teachers to put in those extra trailers/ rented spaces?

DP, but what about using the hired classroom monitors? Ask those teachers who put in ADA requests to accept the vaccine as their reasonable accommodation (I understand that not all teachers can take this, but I imagine many can). Yes, you'll still be projecting the teacher to the kids in the trailers half time or something, but you'd at least have them in the building. Or you space the bigger classes way out in the gym, use microphones and the monitors make sure the kids in the back aren't goofing off. Basically this model, which was working even BEFORE vaccines in a public school district:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/10/school-openings-covid-19.html

Vaccines do not and will not change ADAs already granted for the school year. No one with an already granted ADA will be compelled to come back n person until the fall, regardless of vaccine status.

ADA is invalid now a vaccine is available, you need to prove you can't take the vaccine moron

ADA’s are in place for rest of school year unless a teacher rescinds it.

The ADA is only in place with the status of no vaccine, now that a vaccine is available the ADA is not valid.

That is incorrect. The health factors for the teacher haven't disappeared. Even with the vaccine the health factors are still present. The vaccines are not 100%, and they are not even above 20% for the new mutations so.... Teachers with ADA accommodations because of health factors will still have an ADA accommodation.

It is pretty despicable that you are telling outright lies and spreading misinformation. I hope other people call you out on it, PP, like I did. Troll.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The CDC is supposed to issue new guidance on Wednesday regarding the opening of schools, hopefully addressing the 6 ft distance thing. You can eat in a restaurant without 6 ft between people.

You CAN do anything you want if you don’t give a sh*t about getting or spreading the virus

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[Anonymous]

Funny, I told my mom who lives in a different state in the southeast that kids maybe back in hybrid last week, and then we talked again yesterday and when I clarified hybrid meant 2 days a week for APS she started laughing. She then said teachers in her state have been back since August doing 2 days a week with extended winter break, and since last week 5 days a week. She thinks it could be done as their schools used summer to make space in schools including use of unused space like gyms and cafeterias for classrooms. They do bag lunches and set up cannaopies in outdoor areas with heat for lunch etc. Installed sanitation stations throughout the schools with air purifiers, and isolation room in each school for sick children or staff in portable classroom not in main buildings. Currently working on getting a face recognition app up and running statewide to have parents check and enter temps checked prior to getting on buses.Yes, schools will supply thermometers. So they truly used and are using the money given to make safe space.And I thought Arlington was was progressive......I knew it was far behind New England states we previously lived in,but for the southeast to be figuring out leaves one to ponder.
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Anonymous wrote:I was surprised it was a hybrid/ concurrent model and not just a concurrent one. Couldn’t we have just bought some extra trailers or rented space with the CARES money? Who knows? Unfortunately, leadership just charges ahead with a plan without soliciting feedback from stakeholders, first.

And how to you multiply teachers to put in those extra trailers/ rented spaces?

DP, but what about using the hired classroom monitors? Ask those teachers who put in ADA requests to accept the vaccine as their reasonable accommodation (I understand that not all teachers can take this, but I imagine many can). Yes, you'll still be projecting the teacher to the kids in the trailers half time or something, but you'd at least have them in the building. Or you space the bigger classes way out in the gym, use microphones and the monitors make sure the kids in the back aren't goofing off. Basically this model, which was working even BEFORE vaccines in a public school district:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/10/school-openings-covid-19.html

Vaccines do not and will not change ADAs already granted for the school year. No one with an already granted ADA will be compelled to come back n person until the fall, regardless of vaccine status.

ADA is invalid now a vaccine is available, you need to prove you can't take the vaccine moron

ADA’s are in place for rest of school year unless a teacher rescinds it.

The ADA is only in place with the status of no vaccine, now that a vaccine is available the ADA is not valid.

That is incorrect. The health factors for the teacher haven't disappeared. Even with the vaccine the health factors are still present. The vaccines are not 100%, and they are not even above 20% for the new mutations so.... Teachers with ADA accommodations because of health factors will still have an ADA accommodation.

It is pretty despicable that you are telling outright lies and spreading misinformation. I hope other people call you out on it, PP, like I did. Troll.

People keep saying this because they want it to be true. It is not. The ableism on this forum is very obvious and despicable. People openly angry at those with disabilities who are using the law designed to protect them from discrimination due to the disability. People say things like “you must have reading comprehension issues.” It’s a bad look.

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Anonymous wrote:I was surprised it was a hybrid/ concurrent model and not just a concurrent one. Couldn’t we have just bought some extra trailers or rented space with the CARES money? Who knows? Unfortunately, leadership just charges ahead with a plan without soliciting feedback from stakeholders, first.

And how to you multiply teachers to put in those extra trailers/ rented spaces?

DP, but what about using the hired classroom monitors? Ask those teachers who put in ADA requests to accept the vaccine as their reasonable accommodation (I understand that not all teachers can take this, but I imagine many can). Yes, you'll still be projecting the teacher to the kids in the trailers half time or something, but you'd at least have them in the building. Or you space the bigger classes way out in the gym, use microphones and the monitors make sure the kids in the back aren't goofing off. Basically this model, which was working even BEFORE vaccines in a public school district:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/10/school-openings-covid-19.html

Vaccines do not and will not change ADAs already granted for the school year. No one with an already granted ADA will be compelled to come back n person until the fall, regardless of vaccine status.

ADA is invalid now a vaccine is available, you need to prove you can't take the vaccine moron

ADA’s are in place for rest of school year unless a teacher rescinds it.

The ADA is only in place with the status of no vaccine, now that a vaccine is available the ADA is not valid.

That is incorrect. The health factors for the teacher haven't disappeared. Even with the vaccine the health factors are still present. The vaccines are not 100%, and they are not even above 20% for the new mutations so.... Teachers with ADA accommodations because of health factors will still have an ADA accommodation.

It is pretty despicable that you are telling outright lies and spreading misinformation. I hope other people call you out on it, PP, like I did. Troll.

People keep saying this because they want it to be true. It is not. The ableism on this forum is very obvious and despicable. People openly angry at those with disabilities who are using the law designed to protect them from discrimination due to the disability. People say things like “you must have reading comprehension issues.” It’s a bad look.

Unless you disability prevents you from getting the vaccine like your skin is metal

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was surprised it was a hybrid/ concurrent model and not just a concurrent one. Couldn’t we have just bought some extra trailers or rented space with the CARES money? Who knows? Unfortunately, leadership just charges ahead with a plan without soliciting feedback from stakeholders, first.

And how to you multiply teachers to put in those extra trailers/ rented spaces?

DP, but what about using the hired classroom monitors? Ask those teachers who put in ADA requests to accept the vaccine as their reasonable accommodation (I understand that not all teachers can take this, but I imagine many can). Yes, you'll still be projecting the teacher to the kids in the trailers half time or something, but you'd at least have them in the building. Or you space the bigger classes way out in the gym, use microphones and the monitors make sure the kids in the back aren't goofing off. Basically this model, which was working even BEFORE vaccines in a public school district:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/10/school-openings-covid-19.html

Vaccines do not and will not change ADAs already granted for the school year. No one with an already granted ADA will be compelled to come back n person until the fall, regardless of vaccine status.

ADA is invalid now a vaccine is available, you need to prove you can't take the vaccine moron

ADA’s are in place for rest of school year unless a teacher rescinds it.

The ADA is only in place with the status of no vaccine, now that a vaccine is available the ADA is not valid.

That is incorrect. The health factors for the teacher haven't disappeared. Even with the vaccine the health factors are still present. The vaccines are not 100%, and they are not even above 20% for the new mutations so.... Teachers with ADA accommodations because of health factors will still have an ADA accommodation.

It is pretty despicable that you are telling outright lies and spreading misinformation. I hope other people call you out on it, PP, like I did. Troll.

Agree. PP, you are correct that the ADA accommodations are not being taken away for this year. Those of us with kids who will be with a monitor struggle with that a little bit but I am not opposed to it being done this way. However, please don't spread lies about the vaccines' effectiveness.

[Anonymous]

We need to get hybrid going in it's current terrible state. That way, we will all be advocating for 3 feet or less NEXT year when young kids (under 12) still won't have access to a vaccine. They can offer virtual for those still not ready to send their kids, but hopefully next year we'll be able to get back in school more than 2 days a week.

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Anonymous wrote:We need to get hybrid going in it's current terrible state. That way, we will all be advocating for 3 feet or less NEXT year when young kids (under 12) still won't have access to a vaccine. They can offer virtual for those still not ready to send their kids, but hopefully next year we'll be able to get back in school more than 2 days a week.

You exemplify what’s wrong with society. Advocating for lunacy and deaths no matter what to satisfy your ego and irrelevant needs. Your kind needs to be locked up and have they molted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need to get hybrid going in it's current terrible state. That way, we will all be advocating for 3 feet or less NEXT year when young kids (under 12) still won't have access to a vaccine. They can offer virtual for those still not ready to send their kids, but hopefully next year we'll be able to get back in school more than 2 days a week.

You exemplify what’s wrong with society. Advocating for lunacy and deaths no matter what to satisfy your ego and irrelevant needs. Your kind needs to be locked up and have they molted.

DP here. Your post makes absolutely no sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The CDC is supposed to issue new guidance on Wednesday regarding the opening of schools, hopefully addressing the 6 ft distance thing. You can eat in a restaurant without 6 ft between people.

Indoor dining is one of the most dangerous things you can do right now, so yeah, sure, let’s emulate that.

You people are bonkers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The CDC is supposed to issue new guidance on Wednesday regarding the opening of schools, hopefully addressing the 6 ft distance thing. You can eat in a restaurant without 6 ft between people.

Indoor dining is one of the most dangerous things you can do right now, so yeah, sure, let’s emulate that.

You people are bonkers.

Well if the CDC says that schools can have less than 6 feet distancing, are you going to say that they are incorrect?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Funny, I told my mom who lives in a different state in the southeast that kids maybe back in hybrid last week, and then we talked again yesterday and when I clarified hybrid meant 2 days a week for APS she started laughing. She then said teachers in her state have been back since August doing 2 days a week with extended winter break, and since last week 5 days a week. She thinks it could be done as their schools used summer to make space in schools including use of unused space like gyms and cafeterias for classrooms. They do bag lunches and set up cannaopies in outdoor areas with heat for lunch etc. Installed sanitation stations throughout the schools with air purifiers, and isolation room in each school for sick children or staff in portable classroom not in main buildings. Currently working on getting a face recognition app up and running statewide to have parents check and enter temps checked prior to getting on buses.Yes, schools will supply thermometers. So they truly used and are using the money given to make safe space.And I thought Arlington was was progressive......I knew it was far behind New England states we previously lived in,but for the southeast to be figuring out leaves one to ponder.
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Sweet, your kid can go eat outside on Thursday when it’s going to be snowing and 29 degrees.

[Anonymous]

If it is so impossible to re-open schools safely, how come the plurality of schools in the US are open for full-time in person instruction? It's almost a majority for K-5.
https://info.burbio.com/school-tracker-update-feb-8/

UNICEF mapped out back in fall where things were open:
https://specials-images.forbesimg.com/imageserve/5f89a8d700c7756971847605/960x0.jpg?fit=scale

There are districts here in the Commonwealth of Virginia that are fully in-person for 4 days:
https://www.doe.virginia.gov/support/health_medical/office/reopen-status.shtml

I've said it before and I'll say it again - given the number of families choosing to remain fully remote, it should be possible to get all kids in school who want to be in-person at a 3' spacing (the spacing recommended by the WHO and used in Europe). You don't have to jettison distancing entirely.

VDOE has a layout on it's site for a 3' spacing for classrooms:
https://www.doe.virginia.gov/support/health_medical/covid-19/classroom-3-feet-distancing.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The CDC is supposed to issue new guidance on Wednesday regarding the opening of schools, hopefully addressing the 6 ft distance thing. You can eat in a restaurant without 6 ft between people.

Indoor dining is one of the most dangerous things you can do right now, so yeah, sure, let’s emulate that.

You people are bonkers.

Well if the CDC says that schools can have less than 6 feet distancing, are you going to say that they are incorrect?

If a frog had wings it wouldn’t bump its ass when it hops. We can “if” all day long, but it doesn’t change the fact that indoor dining is one of the main causes of spread. Y’all are slowly trying to take every mitigation factor away and won’t stop until it’s 5 days, unspaced with no/optional masks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The CDC is supposed to issue new guidance on Wednesday regarding the opening of schools, hopefully addressing the 6 ft distance thing. You can eat in a restaurant without 6 ft between people.

Indoor dining is one of the most dangerous things you can do right now, so yeah, sure, let’s emulate that.

You people are bonkers.

Well if the CDC says that schools can have less than 6 feet distancing, are you going to say that they are incorrect?

If a frog had wings it wouldn’t bump its ass when it hops. We can “if” all day long, but it doesn’t change the fact that indoor dining is one of the main causes of spread. Y’all are slowly trying to take every mitigation factor away and won’t stop until it’s 5 days, unspaced with no/optional masks.

Just stop it with the broad generalizations and straw men. They don't help make a coherent discussion.