MCPS New Math Pathway, No AIM6 in MS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:AIM was previously not listed as an option at our home MS, but I see that it’s offered in the course request now. So I think I may have posted earlier in this thread that it wasn’t offered but it appears that it is in fact offered. Fair enough as DC did not get selected for any magnet program.

They are changing the name for the new curriculum. It’s pre algebra.

[Anonymous]

Do schools require a minimum number of students before they offer a class? What I mean is, if only a few 6th graders are qualified to take the advanced class, does the MS need to offer it to them? Or do they only offer it if they can fill a full class (25+ students)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do schools require a minimum number of students before they offer a class? What I mean is, if only a few 6th graders are qualified to take the advanced class, does the MS need to offer it to them? Or do they only offer it if they can fill a full class (25+ students)?

That would make sense but in reality there's this tiger parent thing where they complain that their kid should be in the gifted class and before you know it you every kid in the school is in the advanced class. Basically, it's really the regular class but they call it AIM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do schools require a minimum number of students before they offer a class? What I mean is, if only a few 6th graders are qualified to take the advanced class, does the MS need to offer it to them? Or do they only offer it if they can fill a full class (25+ students)?

We were told that they need 16 kids to hold a class, but I don’t have it in writing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AIM was previously not listed as an option at our home MS, but I see that it’s offered in the course request now. So I think I may have posted earlier in this thread that it wasn’t offered but it appears that it is in fact offered. Fair enough as DC did not get selected for any magnet program.

They are changing the name for the new curriculum. It’s pre algebra.

Can you verify this? Because the new curriculum classes I've seen are Math 6+ and Math 7+, which then lead to Algebra in 8th grade. I haven't seen a new name for a sixth grade math class that would follow compacted math and then lead to Algebra in 7th, like AIM does.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:AIM was previously not listed as an option at our home MS, but I see that it’s offered in the course request now. So I think I may have posted earlier in this thread that it wasn’t offered but it appears that it is in fact offered. Fair enough as DC did not get selected for any magnet program.

They are changing the name for the new curriculum. It’s pre algebra.

Can you verify this? Because the new curriculum classes I've seen are Math 6+ and Math 7+, which then lead to Algebra in 8th grade. I haven't seen a new name for a sixth grade math class that would follow compacted math and then lead to Algebra in 7th, like AIM does.

I looked under course request. It has all the classes that DC is supposed to take next year. It lists AIM (and HIGH for that matter)

[Anonymous]

AIM6 has been a scam since the beginning. Good riddance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:AIM6 has been a scam since the beginning. Good riddance.

How is it a scam? Its pre-algebra.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do schools require a minimum number of students before they offer a class? What I mean is, if only a few 6th graders are qualified to take the advanced class, does the MS need to offer it to them? Or do they only offer it if they can fill a full class (25+ students)?

We were told that they need 16 kids to hold a class, but I don’t have it in writing.

It varies by school. Our school just puts the 6th graders in with the 7th grade Algebra students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do schools require a minimum number of students before they offer a class? What I mean is, if only a few 6th graders are qualified to take the advanced class, does the MS need to offer it to them? Or do they only offer it if they can fill a full class (25+ students)?

We were told that they need 16 kids to hold a class, but I don’t have it in writing.

It varies by school. Our school just puts the 6th graders in with the 7th grade Algebra students.

That’s because Algebra is Algebra. There’s no such thing as 6th grade Algebra or 7th grade Algebra. But a school won’t offer a course if there aren’t enough students to take it. Think ahead to Algebra 2. I assume the PP was asking about AIM (if it differed from IM and wasn’t offered to everyone.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:AIM6 has been a scam since the beginning. Good riddance.

The Troll is strong in this one.

[Anonymous]

8 pages and the truth our home MS has AIM this year and their info states it will be there next year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do schools require a minimum number of students before they offer a class? What I mean is, if only a few 6th graders are qualified to take the advanced class, does the MS need to offer it to them? Or do they only offer it if they can fill a full class (25+ students)?

We were told that they need 16 kids to hold a class, but I don’t have it in writing.

It varies by school. Our school just puts the 6th graders in with the 7th grade Algebra students.

That’s because Algebra is Algebra. There’s no such thing as 6th grade Algebra or 7th grade Algebra. But a school won’t offer a course if there aren’t enough students to take it. Think ahead to Algebra 2. I assume the PP was asking about AIM (if it differed from IM and wasn’t offered to everyone.)

Your post makes zero sense. They will be offering a pre-algebra but it will probably called something different. There isn't a huge difference between AIM and IM and it leads you to the same place of Algebra the next year. A good portion of the kids take IM/AIM so it will be offered. Algebra will also be offered as once you hit Algebra its options vs. grade kids are in. Some schools allow 6th graders in Algebra and some don't. However, many kids now take it in 7th so it will be offered.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do schools require a minimum number of students before they offer a class? What I mean is, if only a few 6th graders are qualified to take the advanced class, does the MS need to offer it to them? Or do they only offer it if they can fill a full class (25+ students)?

We were told that they need 16 kids to hold a class, but I don’t have it in writing.

It varies by school. Our school just puts the 6th graders in with the 7th grade Algebra students.

That’s because Algebra is Algebra. There’s no such thing as 6th grade Algebra or 7th grade Algebra. But a school won’t offer a course if there aren’t enough students to take it. Think ahead to Algebra 2. I assume the PP was asking about AIM (if it differed from IM and wasn’t offered to everyone.)

Your post makes zero sense. They will be offering a pre-algebra but it will probably called something different. There isn't a huge difference between AIM and IM and it leads you to the same place of Algebra the next year. A good portion of the kids take IM/AIM so it will be offered. Algebra will also be offered as once you hit Algebra its options vs. grade kids are in. Some schools allow 6th graders in Algebra and some don't. However, many kids now take it in 7th so it will be offered.

The original PP asked if schools require a minimum number of enrolled students to offer a class. The answer to that question is "yes, the school won't offer a class if too few students would be enrolled." The question arose as part of a discussion about whether all schools were able to offer advanced classes, independent of what constitutes an advanced class. So, for the few years that many schools put some students in AIM and some in IM, a school could have theoretically chosen not to offer a section of AIM if there were not enough AIM-ready students to fill a class.

The PP who said "it varies by school" and brought up Algebra 1 is incorrect because they were framing the question in a very limited way - does it matter if there are enough 6th graders taking Algebra 1 to fill a whole class? The answer to that particular question is "no." A school doesn't need to have a minimum number of 6th graders enrolled in Algebra because there will be enough 7th and 8th graders taking Algebra 1 that Algebra 1 will be offered at every middle school. A more relevant question in that scenario is whether there would be enough 8th graders enrolled in Algebra 2 two years later for the school to offer an Algebra 2 class. The answer to that is likely "no," but in this case, the kids can be shipped to the nearest high school to take Algebra 2 there. That doesn't apply to the AIM/IM/advanced 6th grade math scenario, though, because the only kids taking AIM would be 6th graders.

The details might not be relevant any more, since the distinction between AIM and IM has disappeared and/or the curriculum has changed such that AIM/IM is no longer the advanced 6th grade class. But conceptually, the answer remains the same - there is a minimum number of students required to offer a class.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do schools require a minimum number of students before they offer a class? What I mean is, if only a few 6th graders are qualified to take the advanced class, does the MS need to offer it to them? Or do they only offer it if they can fill a full class (25+ students)?

We were told that they need 16 kids to hold a class, but I don’t have it in writing.

It varies by school. Our school just puts the 6th graders in with the 7th grade Algebra students.

That’s because Algebra is Algebra. There’s no such thing as 6th grade Algebra or 7th grade Algebra. But a school won’t offer a course if there aren’t enough students to take it. Think ahead to Algebra 2. I assume the PP was asking about AIM (if it differed from IM and wasn’t offered to everyone.)

Your post makes zero sense. They will be offering a pre-algebra but it will probably called something different. There isn't a huge difference between AIM and IM and it leads you to the same place of Algebra the next year. A good portion of the kids take IM/AIM so it will be offered. Algebra will also be offered as once you hit Algebra its options vs. grade kids are in. Some schools allow 6th graders in Algebra and some don't. However, many kids now take it in 7th so it will be offered.

The original PP asked if schools require a minimum number of enrolled students to offer a class. The answer to that question is "yes, the school won't offer a class if too few students would be enrolled." The question arose as part of a discussion about whether all schools were able to offer advanced classes, independent of what constitutes an advanced class. So, for the few years that many schools put some students in AIM and some in IM, a school could have theoretically chosen not to offer a section of AIM if there were not enough AIM-ready students to fill a class.

The PP who said "it varies by school" and brought up Algebra 1 is incorrect because they were framing the question in a very limited way - does it matter if there are enough 6th graders taking Algebra 1 to fill a whole class? The answer to that particular question is "no." A school doesn't need to have a minimum number of 6th graders enrolled in Algebra because there will be enough 7th and 8th graders taking Algebra 1 that Algebra 1 will be offered at every middle school. A more relevant question in that scenario is whether there would be enough 8th graders enrolled in Algebra 2 two years later for the school to offer an Algebra 2 class. The answer to that is likely "no," but in this case, the kids can be shipped to the nearest high school to take Algebra 2 there. That doesn't apply to the AIM/IM/advanced 6th grade math scenario, though, because the only kids taking AIM would be 6th graders.

The details might not be relevant any more, since the distinction between AIM and IM has disappeared and/or the curriculum has changed such that AIM/IM is no longer the advanced 6th grade class. But conceptually, the answer remains the same - there is a minimum number of students required to offer a class.

Do you have kids in MCPS? Clearly not. Every school will have enough kids to run AIM/IM in 6th grade. Most MS have 350+ students per grade. And, no, they don't need a minimum number as if a child needs the next up class and they offer it at the school, they place the child in that class. So, they do a mixed class of 6th and 7th graders. And, kids can take IM/AIM in 7th.