Will fall 2021 mean full IP classes?

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Anonymous wrote:The coronavirus numbers in DC are already very low right now, and hardly anyone has been vaccinated. By the summer, a large percentage of people will be vaccinated, and the number of coronavirus cases in the city will be extremely low.

Fantasy

You can just look at the numbers. The infection rate is now below 1.0, which means the outbreak is shrinking.

The positivity rate is 3.4 percent, which is very low (it's supposed to be under 5 percent if you want to reopen schools).

And barely three percent of DC residents have been vaccinated.

If we'd stayed virtual through June, maybe. With si many kids sharing air aince last week, community transmission is bound to rise again and jeopardize what OP is hoping for.

people have been wrongly predicting such things for almost a year now.

remember when memorial day was supposedly going to lead to a huge outbreak? (didnt happen)

remember when the george floyd protests were going to lead to a huge outbreak? (didnt happen)

remember when celebrating july 4 was going to lead to a huge outbreak? (didnt happen)

remember when all the people going to the beach in august was going to lead to a huge outbreak? (didnt happen)

remember when labor day cookouts were going to lead to a huge outbreak? (didnt happen)

remember how people said a combination of the flu and coronavirus was going to devastate washington this winter (didnt happen -- the number of flu cases is microscopic, and the coronavirus numbers are pretty good).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The coronavirus numbers in DC are already very low right now, and hardly anyone has been vaccinated. By the summer, a large percentage of people will be vaccinated, and the number of coronavirus cases in the city will be extremely low.

Fantasy

You can just look at the numbers. The infection rate is now below 1.0, which means the outbreak is shrinking.

The positivity rate is 3.4 percent, which is very low (it's supposed to be under 5 percent if you want to reopen schools).

And barely three percent of DC residents have been vaccinated.

If we'd stayed virtual through June, maybe. With si many kids sharing air aince last week, community transmission is bound to rise again and jeopardize what OP is hoping for.

Stop the disinformation. You have no evidence to show that schools are significant drivers of community spread.

CDC says the opposite. They say rates are lower in schools than in the surrounding areas.

[Anonymous]

Do you think rates are going down because people simply aren’t getting tested as much since they aren’t getting together with family for holidays, etc? Deaths are still high. Cases will go down if you don’t test as many people... but deaths will remain high if the actual case count remains high

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you think rates are going down because people simply aren’t getting tested as much since they aren’t getting together with family for holidays, etc? Deaths are still high. Cases will go down if you don’t test as many people... but deaths will remain high if the actual case count remains high

Well then look at the test positivity rate. If it truly is just people doing less proactive testing and it is more testing of people with symptoms, then we would see positivity rate increase. We haven't. It keeps dropping.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you think rates are going down because people simply aren’t getting tested as much since they aren’t getting together with family for holidays, etc? Deaths are still high. Cases will go down if you don’t test as many people... but deaths will remain high if the actual case count remains high

Deaths lag diagnoses by several weeks. Let's see if the death rates start dropping in another couple weeks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The coronavirus numbers in DC are already very low right now, and hardly anyone has been vaccinated. By the summer, a large percentage of people will be vaccinated, and the number of coronavirus cases in the city will be extremely low.

Fantasy

You can just look at the numbers. The infection rate is now below 1.0, which means the outbreak is shrinking.

The positivity rate is 3.4 percent, which is very low (it's supposed to be under 5 percent if you want to reopen schools).

And barely three percent of DC residents have been vaccinated.

If we'd stayed virtual through June, maybe. With si many kids sharing air aince last week, community transmission is bound to rise again and jeopardize what OP is hoping for.

Stop the disinformation. You have no evidence to show that schools are significant drivers of community spread.

CDC says the opposite. They say rates are lower in schools than in the surrounding areas.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/01/04/school-reopening-risk-virus/

PP, the disinformation is the false claim bordering on fantasy that schools would contribute to community spread. Of course they do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The coronavirus numbers in DC are already very low right now, and hardly anyone has been vaccinated. By the summer, a large percentage of people will be vaccinated, and the number of coronavirus cases in the city will be extremely low.

Fantasy

You can just look at the numbers. The infection rate is now below 1.0, which means the outbreak is shrinking.

The positivity rate is 3.4 percent, which is very low (it's supposed to be under 5 percent if you want to reopen schools).

And barely three percent of DC residents have been vaccinated.

If we'd stayed virtual through June, maybe. With si many kids sharing air aince last week, community transmission is bound to rise again and jeopardize what OP is hoping for.

Stop the disinformation. You have no evidence to show that schools are significant drivers of community spread.

CDC says the opposite. They say rates are lower in schools than in the surrounding areas.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/01/04/school-reopening-risk-virus/

PP, the disinformation is the false claim bordering on fantasy that schools would contribute to community spread. Of course they do.

wouldn't LOL. Got confused rearranging my sentence too many times.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The coronavirus numbers in DC are already very low right now, and hardly anyone has been vaccinated. By the summer, a large percentage of people will be vaccinated, and the number of coronavirus cases in the city will be extremely low.

Fantasy

You can just look at the numbers. The infection rate is now below 1.0, which means the outbreak is shrinking.

The positivity rate is 3.4 percent, which is very low (it's supposed to be under 5 percent if you want to reopen schools).

And barely three percent of DC residents have been vaccinated.

If we'd stayed virtual through June, maybe. With si many kids sharing air aince last week, community transmission is bound to rise again and jeopardize what OP is hoping for.

Stop the disinformation. You have no evidence to show that schools are significant drivers of community spread.

CDC says the opposite. They say rates are lower in schools than in the surrounding areas.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/01/04/school-reopening-risk-virus/

PP, the disinformation is the false claim bordering on fantasy that schools would contribute to community spread. Of course they do.

You can read the CDC report yourself. It's here: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2775875

It says, in part: "There has been little evidence that schools have contributed meaningfully to increased community transmission."

Roughly two-thirds of all schools in the United States are currently open in some fashion. Almost 40 percent of all schools are currently in-person, every day. If there was a health problem with opening schools, we'd know it. The CDC says it ain't happening. I'm sure that's very disappointing to you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The coronavirus numbers in DC are already very low right now, and hardly anyone has been vaccinated. By the summer, a large percentage of people will be vaccinated, and the number of coronavirus cases in the city will be extremely low.

Fantasy

You can just look at the numbers. The infection rate is now below 1.0, which means the outbreak is shrinking.

The positivity rate is 3.4 percent, which is very low (it's supposed to be under 5 percent if you want to reopen schools).

And barely three percent of DC residents have been vaccinated.

If we'd stayed virtual through June, maybe. With si many kids sharing air aince last week, community transmission is bound to rise again and jeopardize what OP is hoping for.

people have been wrongly predicting such things for almost a year now.

remember when memorial day was supposedly going to lead to a huge outbreak? (didnt happen)

remember when the george floyd protests were going to lead to a huge outbreak? (didnt happen)

remember when celebrating july 4 was going to lead to a huge outbreak? (didnt happen)

remember when all the people going to the beach in august was going to lead to a huge outbreak? (didnt happen)

remember when labor day cookouts were going to lead to a huge outbreak? (didnt happen)

remember how people said a combination of the flu and coronavirus was going to devastate washington this winter (didnt happen -- the number of flu cases is microscopic, and the coronavirus numbers are pretty good).

What are you talking about? Cases did rise substantially after many of those dates- including the most recent peak due to holidays.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The coronavirus numbers in DC are already very low right now, and hardly anyone has been vaccinated. By the summer, a large percentage of people will be vaccinated, and the number of coronavirus cases in the city will be extremely low.

Fantasy

You can just look at the numbers. The infection rate is now below 1.0, which means the outbreak is shrinking.

The positivity rate is 3.4 percent, which is very low (it's supposed to be under 5 percent if you want to reopen schools).

And barely three percent of DC residents have been vaccinated.

If we'd stayed virtual through June, maybe. With si many kids sharing air aince last week, community transmission is bound to rise again and jeopardize what OP is hoping for.

people have been wrongly predicting such things for almost a year now.

remember when memorial day was supposedly going to lead to a huge outbreak? (didnt happen)

remember when the george floyd protests were going to lead to a huge outbreak? (didnt happen)

remember when celebrating july 4 was going to lead to a huge outbreak? (didnt happen)

remember when all the people going to the beach in august was going to lead to a huge outbreak? (didnt happen)

remember when labor day cookouts were going to lead to a huge outbreak? (didnt happen)

remember how people said a combination of the flu and coronavirus was going to devastate washington this winter (didnt happen -- the number of flu cases is microscopic, and the coronavirus numbers are pretty good).

What are you talking about? Cases did rise substantially after many of those dates- including the most recent peak due to holidays.

Look at a graph of cases in DC. They peaked last May and then fell fairly steadily throughout the summer and fall before climbing again this winter. They spiked in early December before falling again before Christmas and then spiked back up again in early January. They've fallen dramatically in the past month.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The coronavirus numbers in DC are already very low right now, and hardly anyone has been vaccinated. By the summer, a large percentage of people will be vaccinated, and the number of coronavirus cases in the city will be extremely low.

Fantasy

You can just look at the numbers. The infection rate is now below 1.0, which means the outbreak is shrinking.

The positivity rate is 3.4 percent, which is very low (it's supposed to be under 5 percent if you want to reopen schools).

And barely three percent of DC residents have been vaccinated.

If we'd stayed virtual through June, maybe. With si many kids sharing air aince last week, community transmission is bound to rise again and jeopardize what OP is hoping for.

Stop the disinformation. You have no evidence to show that schools are significant drivers of community spread.

CDC says the opposite. They say rates are lower in schools than in the surrounding areas.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/01/04/school-reopening-risk-virus/

PP, the disinformation is the false claim bordering on fantasy that schools wouldn't contribute to community spread. Of course they do.

You can read the CDC report yourself. It's here: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2775875

It says, in part: "There has been little evidence that schools have contributed meaningfully to increased community transmission."

Roughly two-thirds of all schools in the United States are currently open in some fashion. Almost 40 percent of all schools are currently in-person, every day. If there was a health problem with opening schools, we'd know it. The CDC says it ain't happening. I'm sure that's very disappointing to you.

First of all, see the disclaimer of that 'viewpoint' article, "The findings and conclusions in this report are those of the authors and do not necessarily represent the official position of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."A viewpoint is numerous rungs below a meta-analysis, and it's basically an editorial. Last time we gave too much weight to a viewpoint in a medical journal, we created the opioid crisis.

Second, take a listen of this podcast for a reasonable view of this problem.
https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/episodes/why-press-gets-school-transmission-so-wrong-on-the-media

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The coronavirus numbers in DC are already very low right now, and hardly anyone has been vaccinated. By the summer, a large percentage of people will be vaccinated, and the number of coronavirus cases in the city will be extremely low.

Fantasy

You can just look at the numbers. The infection rate is now below 1.0, which means the outbreak is shrinking.

The positivity rate is 3.4 percent, which is very low (it's supposed to be under 5 percent if you want to reopen schools).

And barely three percent of DC residents have been vaccinated.

If we'd stayed virtual through June, maybe. With si many kids sharing air aince last week, community transmission is bound to rise again and jeopardize what OP is hoping for.

Stop the disinformation. You have no evidence to show that schools are significant drivers of community spread.

CDC says the opposite. They say rates are lower in schools than in the surrounding areas.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/01/04/school-reopening-risk-virus/

PP, the disinformation is the false claim bordering on fantasy that schools wouldn't contribute to community spread. Of course they do.

You can read the CDC report yourself. It's here: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2775875

It says, in part: "There has been little evidence that schools have contributed meaningfully to increased community transmission."

Roughly two-thirds of all schools in the United States are currently open in some fashion. Almost 40 percent of all schools are currently in-person, every day. If there was a health problem with opening schools, we'd know it. The CDC says it ain't happening. I'm sure that's very disappointing to you.

First of all, see the disclaimer of that 'viewpoint' article, "The findings and conclusions in this report are those of the authors and do not necessarily represent the official position of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."A viewpoint is numerous rungs below a meta-analysis, and it's basically an editorial. Last time we gave too much weight to a viewpoint in a medical journal, we created the opioid crisis.

Second, take a listen of this podcast for a reasonable view of this problem.
https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/episodes/why-press-gets-school-transmission-so-wrong-on-the-media

Gotta love these teachers who are suddenly anti-science when the medical profession tells them it's time to go to work.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The coronavirus numbers in DC are already very low right now, and hardly anyone has been vaccinated. By the summer, a large percentage of people will be vaccinated, and the number of coronavirus cases in the city will be extremely low.

Fantasy

You can just look at the numbers. The infection rate is now below 1.0, which means the outbreak is shrinking.

The positivity rate is 3.4 percent, which is very low (it's supposed to be under 5 percent if you want to reopen schools).

And barely three percent of DC residents have been vaccinated.

If we'd stayed virtual through June, maybe. With si many kids sharing air aince last week, community transmission is bound to rise again and jeopardize what OP is hoping for.

Stop the disinformation. You have no evidence to show that schools are significant drivers of community spread.

CDC says the opposite. They say rates are lower in schools than in the surrounding areas.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/01/04/school-reopening-risk-virus/

PP, the disinformation is the false claim bordering on fantasy that schools wouldn't contribute to community spread. Of course they do.

You can read the CDC report yourself. It's here: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2775875

It says, in part: "There has been little evidence that schools have contributed meaningfully to increased community transmission."

Roughly two-thirds of all schools in the United States are currently open in some fashion. Almost 40 percent of all schools are currently in-person, every day. If there was a health problem with opening schools, we'd know it. The CDC says it ain't happening. I'm sure that's very disappointing to you.

First of all, see the disclaimer of that 'viewpoint' article, "The findings and conclusions in this report are those of the authors and do not necessarily represent the official position of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."A viewpoint is numerous rungs below a meta-analysis, and it's basically an editorial. Last time we gave too much weight to a viewpoint in a medical journal, we created the opioid crisis.

Second, take a listen of this podcast for a reasonable view of this problem.
https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/episodes/why-press-gets-school-transmission-so-wrong-on-the-media

DP. It might just be a "viewpoint" article, but it's hardly a lone voice in the wilderness. There is an international consensus that schools do not *significantly* contribute to community spread and therefore the benefits of opening them outweigh the risks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The coronavirus numbers in DC are already very low right now, and hardly anyone has been vaccinated. By the summer, a large percentage of people will be vaccinated, and the number of coronavirus cases in the city will be extremely low.

Fantasy

You can just look at the numbers. The infection rate is now below 1.0, which means the outbreak is shrinking.

The positivity rate is 3.4 percent, which is very low (it's supposed to be under 5 percent if you want to reopen schools).

And barely three percent of DC residents have been vaccinated.

If we'd stayed virtual through June, maybe. With si many kids sharing air aince last week, community transmission is bound to rise again and jeopardize what OP is hoping for.

Stop the disinformation. You have no evidence to show that schools are significant drivers of community spread.

CDC says the opposite. They say rates are lower in schools than in the surrounding areas.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/01/04/school-reopening-risk-virus/

PP, the disinformation is the false claim bordering on fantasy that schools wouldn't contribute to community spread. Of course they do.

You can read the CDC report yourself. It's here: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2775875

It says, in part: "There has been little evidence that schools have contributed meaningfully to increased community transmission."

Roughly two-thirds of all schools in the United States are currently open in some fashion. Almost 40 percent of all schools are currently in-person, every day. If there was a health problem with opening schools, we'd know it. The CDC says it ain't happening. I'm sure that's very disappointing to you.

First of all, see the disclaimer of that 'viewpoint' article, "The findings and conclusions in this report are those of the authors and do not necessarily represent the official position of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."A viewpoint is numerous rungs below a meta-analysis, and it's basically an editorial. Last time we gave too much weight to a viewpoint in a medical journal, we created the opioid crisis.

Second, take a listen of this podcast for a reasonable view of this problem.
https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/episodes/why-press-gets-school-transmission-so-wrong-on-the-media

Gotta love these teachers who are suddenly anti-science when the medical profession tells them it's time to go to work.

Ah FFS, for the second time today on DCUM, I am not a teacher. And the above is not anti-science. It is admittedly a bored half-assed rebuttal of your non-science. Because trodding out the same wishful dumb editorial is ridiculous. And that editorial, even though it went to JAMA, is not science either. It's a silly opinion piece dangerously camouflaged as science by being in JAMA. At least the podcast, which also discusses the exact same scientific studies as the JAMA viewpoint piece does, is honest about what it is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The coronavirus numbers in DC are already very low right now, and hardly anyone has been vaccinated. By the summer, a large percentage of people will be vaccinated, and the number of coronavirus cases in the city will be extremely low.

Fantasy

You can just look at the numbers. The infection rate is now below 1.0, which means the outbreak is shrinking.

The positivity rate is 3.4 percent, which is very low (it's supposed to be under 5 percent if you want to reopen schools).

And barely three percent of DC residents have been vaccinated.

If we'd stayed virtual through June, maybe. With si many kids sharing air aince last week, community transmission is bound to rise again and jeopardize what OP is hoping for.

Stop the disinformation. You have no evidence to show that schools are significant drivers of community spread.

CDC says the opposite. They say rates are lower in schools than in the surrounding areas.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/01/04/school-reopening-risk-virus/

PP, the disinformation is the false claim bordering on fantasy that schools wouldn't contribute to community spread. Of course they do.

You can read the CDC report yourself. It's here: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2775875

It says, in part: "There has been little evidence that schools have contributed meaningfully to increased community transmission."

Roughly two-thirds of all schools in the United States are currently open in some fashion. Almost 40 percent of all schools are currently in-person, every day. If there was a health problem with opening schools, we'd know it. The CDC says it ain't happening. I'm sure that's very disappointing to you.

First of all, see the disclaimer of that 'viewpoint' article, "The findings and conclusions in this report are those of the authors and do not necessarily represent the official position of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."A viewpoint is numerous rungs below a meta-analysis, and it's basically an editorial. Last time we gave too much weight to a viewpoint in a medical journal, we created the opioid crisis.

Second, take a listen of this podcast for a reasonable view of this problem.
https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/episodes/why-press-gets-school-transmission-so-wrong-on-the-media

DP. It might just be a "viewpoint" article, but it's hardly a lone voice in the wilderness. There is an international consensus that schools do not *significantly* contribute to community spread and therefore the benefits of opening them outweigh the risks.

Almost 40 percent of schools in the US are open -- kids go to school every day, in person. Another 20 percent of schools are open part time, i.e. hybrid. All the CDC did was look at what happened in schools that have been open. It's not an editorial saying people should do one thing or another. It's an analysis of what actually happened in schools that have been open.