WTU/DCPS reach agreement

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Anonymous wrote:20th year teaching. Yes, I’ve crossed over the $100,000 mark. I live in DC, and given the cost of living here, I am far from wealthy. Comparing the salaries of teachers in cities with very different costs of living makes zero sense. Of course their salaries are lower. Their apartments also cost $600 a month lol.

I am not remotely suggesting that teachers are overpaid; they aren't. But all of the posts acting like teachers are badly paid are just inaccurate. Head teachers in DCPS make more than the average total income of a kid in a DC public classroom. So if we're feeling really bad for the economic pressure being exerted on teachers to return, think about their students' families.

So you all know teachers are important now right? Has this pandemic taught you that?

Are they as important as a doctor?
A lawyer?

An engineer?

Marketing managers?


The average wage in DC I think is like 69k. Is being a teacher an average job? Is someone who spends the majority of the regular school day with the city's children average?
Is having to have multiple titles in one (that you are not trained for average?)

Even before Covid-19, I think teachers should be paid more. I don't think the pay is bad, but it's not excellent either.
So I imagine most teachers who respond are not talking about hardships due to covid-19.


Regardless I hope we can get back on topic, the agreement has been officially signed and every school will decide the model.

GW and Georgetown and WHC are paying new nurses a starting salary of $58K to work in the ICU with Covid patients. No hazard pay.
Nurses with 10 years of experience at these hospitals are around $80K.

Some professions are just underpaid.

Nurses are the equivalent of paraprofessionals, unless you're a nurse practitioner. Who are paid 80k- 200k. Stop.

Even if they were underpaid, 2 wrongs don't make a what..? :-/

Sorry, what? NURSES are the same as paras? Our para has no college at all, just passed an exam. That is NOT like being a nurse. This is a ridiculous comparison.

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Anonymous wrote:20th year teaching. Yes, I’ve crossed over the $100,000 mark. I live in DC, and given the cost of living here, I am far from wealthy. Comparing the salaries of teachers in cities with very different costs of living makes zero sense. Of course their salaries are lower. Their apartments also cost $600 a month lol.

I am not remotely suggesting that teachers are overpaid; they aren't. But all of the posts acting like teachers are badly paid are just inaccurate. Head teachers in DCPS make more than the average total income of a kid in a DC public classroom. So if we're feeling really bad for the economic pressure being exerted on teachers to return, think about their students' families.

So you all know teachers are important now right? Has this pandemic taught you that?

Are they as important as a doctor?
A lawyer?

An engineer?

Marketing managers?


The average wage in DC I think is like 69k. Is being a teacher an average job? Is someone who spends the majority of the regular school day with the city's children average?
Is having to have multiple titles in one (that you are not trained for average?)

Even before Covid-19, I think teachers should be paid more. I don't think the pay is bad, but it's not excellent either.
So I imagine most teachers who respond are not talking about hardships due to covid-19.


Regardless I hope we can get back on topic, the agreement has been officially signed and every school will decide the model.

GW and Georgetown and WHC are paying new nurses a starting salary of $58K to work in the ICU with Covid patients. No hazard pay.
Nurses with 10 years of experience at these hospitals are around $80K.

Some professions are just underpaid.

Nurses are the equivalent of paraprofessionals, unless you're a nurse practitioner. Who are paid 80k- 200k. Stop.

Even if they were underpaid, 2 wrongs don't make a what..? :-/

On no planet are nurse practitioners paid $200K.

People on DCUM vastly overestimate what nurses and nurse practitioners make.

(Maybe it's the case that they overestimate regarding other salaries on here too, but I only know the reality for RNs and NPs)

My older sister is a CNRA and is paid 250k. But sure, no way can they make 200k. Get that phd level worth of skill. She was in schooling for 11 years...

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Anonymous wrote:20th year teaching. Yes, I’ve crossed over the $100,000 mark. I live in DC, and given the cost of living here, I am far from wealthy. Comparing the salaries of teachers in cities with very different costs of living makes zero sense. Of course their salaries are lower. Their apartments also cost $600 a month lol.

I am not remotely suggesting that teachers are overpaid; they aren't. But all of the posts acting like teachers are badly paid are just inaccurate. Head teachers in DCPS make more than the average total income of a kid in a DC public classroom. So if we're feeling really bad for the economic pressure being exerted on teachers to return, think about their students' families.

So you all know teachers are important now right? Has this pandemic taught you that?

Are they as important as a doctor?
A lawyer?

An engineer?

Marketing managers?


The average wage in DC I think is like 69k. Is being a teacher an average job? Is someone who spends the majority of the regular school day with the city's children average?
Is having to have multiple titles in one (that you are not trained for average?)

Even before Covid-19, I think teachers should be paid more. I don't think the pay is bad, but it's not excellent either.
So I imagine most teachers who respond are not talking about hardships due to covid-19.


Regardless I hope we can get back on topic, the agreement has been officially signed and every school will decide the model.

GW and Georgetown and WHC are paying new nurses a starting salary of $58K to work in the ICU with Covid patients. No hazard pay.
Nurses with 10 years of experience at these hospitals are around $80K.

Some professions are just underpaid.

Nurses are the equivalent of paraprofessionals, unless you're a nurse practitioner. Who are paid 80k- 200k. Stop.

Even if they were underpaid, 2 wrongs don't make a what..? :-/

Sorry, what? NURSES are the same as paras? Our para has no college at all, just passed an exam. That is NOT like being a nurse. This is a ridiculous comparison.

I'm sorry your school is poor. All the paras at my school have degrees, some a retired teachers. Just like their are poor LVNs there are poor paras.

So yes nurses are the equivalent. They are important but follow the lead of the doctor. Why is this insulting?

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Anonymous wrote:20th year teaching. Yes, I’ve crossed over the $100,000 mark. I live in DC, and given the cost of living here, I am far from wealthy. Comparing the salaries of teachers in cities with very different costs of living makes zero sense. Of course their salaries are lower. Their apartments also cost $600 a month lol.

I am not remotely suggesting that teachers are overpaid; they aren't. But all of the posts acting like teachers are badly paid are just inaccurate. Head teachers in DCPS make more than the average total income of a kid in a DC public classroom. So if we're feeling really bad for the economic pressure being exerted on teachers to return, think about their students' families.

So you all know teachers are important now right? Has this pandemic taught you that?

Are they as important as a doctor?
A lawyer?

An engineer?

Marketing managers?


The average wage in DC I think is like 69k. Is being a teacher an average job? Is someone who spends the majority of the regular school day with the city's children average?
Is having to have multiple titles in one (that you are not trained for average?)

Even before Covid-19, I think teachers should be paid more. I don't think the pay is bad, but it's not excellent either.
So I imagine most teachers who respond are not talking about hardships due to covid-19.


Regardless I hope we can get back on topic, the agreement has been officially signed and every school will decide the model.

GW and Georgetown and WHC are paying new nurses a starting salary of $58K to work in the ICU with Covid patients. No hazard pay.
Nurses with 10 years of experience at these hospitals are around $80K.

Some professions are just underpaid.

Nurses are the equivalent of paraprofessionals, unless you're a nurse practitioner. Who are paid 80k- 200k. Stop.

Even if they were underpaid, 2 wrongs don't make a what..? :-/

Sorry, what? NURSES are the same as paras? Our para has no college at all, just passed an exam. That is NOT like being a nurse. This is a ridiculous comparison.

I'm sorry your school is poor. All the paras at my school have degrees, some a retired teachers. Just like their are poor LVNs there are poor paras.

So yes nurses are the equivalent. They are important but follow the lead of the doctor. Why is this insulting?

Because these people think they are better than that.

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who is arguing an RN is like a classroom para? Come on.

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Anonymous wrote:20th year teaching. Yes, I’ve crossed over the $100,000 mark. I live in DC, and given the cost of living here, I am far from wealthy. Comparing the salaries of teachers in cities with very different costs of living makes zero sense. Of course their salaries are lower. Their apartments also cost $600 a month lol.

I am not remotely suggesting that teachers are overpaid; they aren't. But all of the posts acting like teachers are badly paid are just inaccurate. Head teachers in DCPS make more than the average total income of a kid in a DC public classroom. So if we're feeling really bad for the economic pressure being exerted on teachers to return, think about their students' families.

So you all know teachers are important now right? Has this pandemic taught you that?

Are they as important as a doctor?
A lawyer?

An engineer?

Marketing managers?


The average wage in DC I think is like 69k. Is being a teacher an average job? Is someone who spends the majority of the regular school day with the city's children average?
Is having to have multiple titles in one (that you are not trained for average?)

Even before Covid-19, I think teachers should be paid more. I don't think the pay is bad, but it's not excellent either.
So I imagine most teachers who respond are not talking about hardships due to covid-19.


Regardless I hope we can get back on topic, the agreement has been officially signed and every school will decide the model.

GW and Georgetown and WHC are paying new nurses a starting salary of $58K to work in the ICU with Covid patients. No hazard pay.
Nurses with 10 years of experience at these hospitals are around $80K.

Some professions are just underpaid.

Nurses are the equivalent of paraprofessionals, unless you're a nurse practitioner. Who are paid 80k- 200k. Stop.

Even if they were underpaid, 2 wrongs don't make a what..? :-/

Sorry, what? NURSES are the same as paras? Our para has no college at all, just passed an exam. That is NOT like being a nurse. This is a ridiculous comparison.

I'm sorry your school is poor. All the paras at my school have degrees, some a retired teachers. Just like their are poor LVNs there are poor paras.

So yes nurses are the equivalent. They are important but follow the lead of the doctor. Why is this insulting?

My school isn’t “poor” (wtf?). The point is that any job you can legally do without any post-HS is not the equivalent of a nurse. It’s just not.

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Anonymous wrote:20th year teaching. Yes, I’ve crossed over the $100,000 mark. I live in DC, and given the cost of living here, I am far from wealthy. Comparing the salaries of teachers in cities with very different costs of living makes zero sense. Of course their salaries are lower. Their apartments also cost $600 a month lol.

I am not remotely suggesting that teachers are overpaid; they aren't. But all of the posts acting like teachers are badly paid are just inaccurate. Head teachers in DCPS make more than the average total income of a kid in a DC public classroom. So if we're feeling really bad for the economic pressure being exerted on teachers to return, think about their students' families.

So you all know teachers are important now right? Has this pandemic taught you that?

Are they as important as a doctor?
A lawyer?

An engineer?

Marketing managers?


The average wage in DC I think is like 69k. Is being a teacher an average job? Is someone who spends the majority of the regular school day with the city's children average?
Is having to have multiple titles in one (that you are not trained for average?)

Even before Covid-19, I think teachers should be paid more. I don't think the pay is bad, but it's not excellent either.
So I imagine most teachers who respond are not talking about hardships due to covid-19.


Regardless I hope we can get back on topic, the agreement has been officially signed and every school will decide the model.

GW and Georgetown and WHC are paying new nurses a starting salary of $58K to work in the ICU with Covid patients. No hazard pay.
Nurses with 10 years of experience at these hospitals are around $80K.

Some professions are just underpaid.

Nurses are the equivalent of paraprofessionals, unless you're a nurse practitioner. Who are paid 80k- 200k. Stop.

Even if they were underpaid, 2 wrongs don't make a what..? :-/

Sorry, what? NURSES are the same as paras? Our para has no college at all, just passed an exam. That is NOT like being a nurse. This is a ridiculous comparison.

I'm sorry your school is poor. All the paras at my school have degrees, some a retired teachers. Just like their are poor LVNs there are poor paras.

So yes nurses are the equivalent. They are important but follow the lead of the doctor. Why is this insulting?

My school isn’t “poor” (wtf?). The point is that any job you can legally do without any post-HS is not the equivalent of a nurse. It’s just not.

No you have to have an associates degree OR pass the exam. So yes very similar to an nurse who can become one with simply an associates. Also there are plenty of jobs that pay well right out of high school, it's just they require skill instead or entrepreneurship.

And 'poor' not like SES, poor as in quality. No school in their right mind would hire someone who is simply a high school graduate, unless they had multiple years of experience and excellent references.

Again why is this a big deal? Paraprofessionals serve as great support in classrooms, they are essential. Just like nurses are essential to doctors.

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Anonymous wrote:20th year teaching. Yes, I’ve crossed over the $100,000 mark. I live in DC, and given the cost of living here, I am far from wealthy. Comparing the salaries of teachers in cities with very different costs of living makes zero sense. Of course their salaries are lower. Their apartments also cost $600 a month lol.

I am not remotely suggesting that teachers are overpaid; they aren't. But all of the posts acting like teachers are badly paid are just inaccurate. Head teachers in DCPS make more than the average total income of a kid in a DC public classroom. So if we're feeling really bad for the economic pressure being exerted on teachers to return, think about their students' families.

So you all know teachers are important now right? Has this pandemic taught you that?

Are they as important as a doctor?
A lawyer?

An engineer?

Marketing managers?


The average wage in DC I think is like 69k. Is being a teacher an average job? Is someone who spends the majority of the regular school day with the city's children average?
Is having to have multiple titles in one (that you are not trained for average?)

Even before Covid-19, I think teachers should be paid more. I don't think the pay is bad, but it's not excellent either.
So I imagine most teachers who respond are not talking about hardships due to covid-19.


Regardless I hope we can get back on topic, the agreement has been officially signed and every school will decide the model.

GW and Georgetown and WHC are paying new nurses a starting salary of $58K to work in the ICU with Covid patients. No hazard pay.
Nurses with 10 years of experience at these hospitals are around $80K.

Some professions are just underpaid.

Nurses are the equivalent of paraprofessionals, unless you're a nurse practitioner. Who are paid 80k- 200k. Stop.

Even if they were underpaid, 2 wrongs don't make a what..? :-/

Sorry, what? NURSES are the same as paras? Our para has no college at all, just passed an exam. That is NOT like being a nurse. This is a ridiculous comparison.

I'm sorry your school is poor. All the paras at my school have degrees, some a retired teachers. Just like their are poor LVNs there are poor paras.

So yes nurses are the equivalent. They are important but follow the lead of the doctor. Why is this insulting?

My school isn’t “poor” (wtf?). The point is that any job you can legally do without any post-HS is not the equivalent of a nurse. It’s just not.

No you have to have an associates degree OR pass the exam. So yes very similar to an nurse who can become one with simply an associates. Also there are plenty of jobs that pay well right out of high school, it's just they require skill instead or entrepreneurship.

And 'poor' not like SES, poor as in quality. No school in their right mind would hire someone who is simply a high school graduate, unless they had multiple years of experience and excellent references.

Again why is this a big deal? Paraprofessionals serve as great support in classrooms, they are essential. Just like nurses are essential to doctors.

Do you not know the difference between and LPN and an RN?

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Anonymous wrote:20th year teaching. Yes, I’ve crossed over the $100,000 mark. I live in DC, and given the cost of living here, I am far from wealthy. Comparing the salaries of teachers in cities with very different costs of living makes zero sense. Of course their salaries are lower. Their apartments also cost $600 a month lol.

I am not remotely suggesting that teachers are overpaid; they aren't. But all of the posts acting like teachers are badly paid are just inaccurate. Head teachers in DCPS make more than the average total income of a kid in a DC public classroom. So if we're feeling really bad for the economic pressure being exerted on teachers to return, think about their students' families.

So you all know teachers are important now right? Has this pandemic taught you that?

Are they as important as a doctor?
A lawyer?

An engineer?

Marketing managers?


The average wage in DC I think is like 69k. Is being a teacher an average job? Is someone who spends the majority of the regular school day with the city's children average?
Is having to have multiple titles in one (that you are not trained for average?)

Even before Covid-19, I think teachers should be paid more. I don't think the pay is bad, but it's not excellent either.
So I imagine most teachers who respond are not talking about hardships due to covid-19.


Regardless I hope we can get back on topic, the agreement has been officially signed and every school will decide the model.

GW and Georgetown and WHC are paying new nurses a starting salary of $58K to work in the ICU with Covid patients. No hazard pay.
Nurses with 10 years of experience at these hospitals are around $80K.

Some professions are just underpaid.

Nurses are the equivalent of paraprofessionals, unless you're a nurse practitioner. Who are paid 80k- 200k. Stop.

Even if they were underpaid, 2 wrongs don't make a what..? :-/

Sorry, what? NURSES are the same as paras? Our para has no college at all, just passed an exam. That is NOT like being a nurse. This is a ridiculous comparison.

I'm sorry your school is poor. All the paras at my school have degrees, some a retired teachers. Just like their are poor LVNs there are poor paras.

So yes nurses are the equivalent. They are important but follow the lead of the doctor. Why is this insulting?

My school isn’t “poor” (wtf?). The point is that any job you can legally do without any post-HS is not the equivalent of a nurse. It’s just not.

No you have to have an associates degree OR pass the exam. So yes very similar to an nurse who can become one with simply an associates. Also there are plenty of jobs that pay well right out of high school, it's just they require skill instead or entrepreneurship.

And 'poor' not like SES, poor as in quality. No school in their right mind would hire someone who is simply a high school graduate, unless they had multiple years of experience and excellent references.

Again why is this a big deal? Paraprofessionals serve as great support in classrooms, they are essential. Just like nurses are essential to doctors.

Do you not know the difference between and LPN and an RN?

I do but it doesn't matter, in their respective field nurses (most not all) are the equivalent to a paraprofessional or assistant teacher. The point is they are not the lead on patients.

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Anonymous wrote:20th year teaching. Yes, I’ve crossed over the $100,000 mark. I live in DC, and given the cost of living here, I am far from wealthy. Comparing the salaries of teachers in cities with very different costs of living makes zero sense. Of course their salaries are lower. Their apartments also cost $600 a month lol.

I am not remotely suggesting that teachers are overpaid; they aren't. But all of the posts acting like teachers are badly paid are just inaccurate. Head teachers in DCPS make more than the average total income of a kid in a DC public classroom. So if we're feeling really bad for the economic pressure being exerted on teachers to return, think about their students' families.

So you all know teachers are important now right? Has this pandemic taught you that?

Are they as important as a doctor?
A lawyer?

An engineer?

Marketing managers?


The average wage in DC I think is like 69k. Is being a teacher an average job? Is someone who spends the majority of the regular school day with the city's children average?
Is having to have multiple titles in one (that you are not trained for average?)

Even before Covid-19, I think teachers should be paid more. I don't think the pay is bad, but it's not excellent either.
So I imagine most teachers who respond are not talking about hardships due to covid-19.


Regardless I hope we can get back on topic, the agreement has been officially signed and every school will decide the model.

GW and Georgetown and WHC are paying new nurses a starting salary of $58K to work in the ICU with Covid patients. No hazard pay.
Nurses with 10 years of experience at these hospitals are around $80K.

Some professions are just underpaid.

Nurses are the equivalent of paraprofessionals, unless you're a nurse practitioner. Who are paid 80k- 200k. Stop.

Even if they were underpaid, 2 wrongs don't make a what..? :-/

Sorry, what? NURSES are the same as paras? Our para has no college at all, just passed an exam. That is NOT like being a nurse. This is a ridiculous comparison.

I'm sorry your school is poor. All the paras at my school have degrees, some a retired teachers. Just like their are poor LVNs there are poor paras.

So yes nurses are the equivalent. They are important but follow the lead of the doctor. Why is this insulting?

My school isn’t “poor” (wtf?). The point is that any job you can legally do without any post-HS is not the equivalent of a nurse. It’s just not.

No you have to have an associates degree OR pass the exam. So yes very similar to an nurse who can become one with simply an associates. Also there are plenty of jobs that pay well right out of high school, it's just they require skill instead or entrepreneurship.

And 'poor' not like SES, poor as in quality. No school in their right mind would hire someone who is simply a high school graduate, unless they had multiple years of experience and excellent references.

Again why is this a big deal? Paraprofessionals serve as great support in classrooms, they are essential. Just like nurses are essential to doctors.

Do you not know the difference between and LPN and an RN?

I do but it doesn't matter, in their respective field nurses (most not all) are the equivalent to a paraprofessional or assistant teacher. The point is they are not the lead on patients.

you’re a real idiot if you think rn:dr = para:teacher.

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Anonymous wrote:20th year teaching. Yes, I’ve crossed over the $100,000 mark. I live in DC, and given the cost of living here, I am far from wealthy. Comparing the salaries of teachers in cities with very different costs of living makes zero sense. Of course their salaries are lower. Their apartments also cost $600 a month lol.

I am not remotely suggesting that teachers are overpaid; they aren't. But all of the posts acting like teachers are badly paid are just inaccurate. Head teachers in DCPS make more than the average total income of a kid in a DC public classroom. So if we're feeling really bad for the economic pressure being exerted on teachers to return, think about their students' families.

So you all know teachers are important now right? Has this pandemic taught you that?

Are they as important as a doctor?
A lawyer?

An engineer?

Marketing managers?


The average wage in DC I think is like 69k. Is being a teacher an average job? Is someone who spends the majority of the regular school day with the city's children average?
Is having to have multiple titles in one (that you are not trained for average?)

Even before Covid-19, I think teachers should be paid more. I don't think the pay is bad, but it's not excellent either.
So I imagine most teachers who respond are not talking about hardships due to covid-19.


Regardless I hope we can get back on topic, the agreement has been officially signed and every school will decide the model.

GW and Georgetown and WHC are paying new nurses a starting salary of $58K to work in the ICU with Covid patients. No hazard pay.
Nurses with 10 years of experience at these hospitals are around $80K.

Some professions are just underpaid.

Nurses are the equivalent of paraprofessionals, unless you're a nurse practitioner. Who are paid 80k- 200k. Stop.

Even if they were underpaid, 2 wrongs don't make a what..? :-/

Sorry, what? NURSES are the same as paras? Our para has no college at all, just passed an exam. That is NOT like being a nurse. This is a ridiculous comparison.

I'm sorry your school is poor. All the paras at my school have degrees, some a retired teachers. Just like their are poor LVNs there are poor paras.

So yes nurses are the equivalent. They are important but follow the lead of the doctor. Why is this insulting?

My school isn’t “poor” (wtf?). The point is that any job you can legally do without any post-HS is not the equivalent of a nurse. It’s just not.

No you have to have an associates degree OR pass the exam. So yes very similar to an nurse who can become one with simply an associates. Also there are plenty of jobs that pay well right out of high school, it's just they require skill instead or entrepreneurship.

And 'poor' not like SES, poor as in quality. No school in their right mind would hire someone who is simply a high school graduate, unless they had multiple years of experience and excellent references.

Again why is this a big deal? Paraprofessionals serve as great support in classrooms, they are essential. Just like nurses are essential to doctors.

Do you not know the difference between and LPN and an RN?

I do but it doesn't matter, in their respective field nurses (most not all) are the equivalent to a paraprofessional or assistant teacher. The point is they are not the lead on patients.

Yes, and both are like being the assistant store greeter at Walmart; after all, you operate under the guidance of the main greeter! A nurse is not the equivalent of a para in terms of how educated they are or how compensated they should be. Yea, there are some paras as educated as the least educated nurses, but a small overlap in credentials doesn’t make them equivalent. Our nanny has a masters degree, that doesn’t make her the same as an NP.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread just shows how dependent even the wealthy are on public education, which is usually a good thing, but this year has worked against DC kids. Ask yourselves why we’ve had so little momentum to reopen from parents? Other places opened because there was pressure. Why not here?

I think most wealthy parents can MacGuiver some options. They assessed the situation and don't want their children in unsafe settings with salty, unsupported teachers. In suburban school system. probably more trust around safe and transparent implementation?

I don’t know where you are getting that from. Janney has probably one of the highest percentage of wealthier families in DCPS and our survey from this month showed that over 70% of parents from every want and will send their kids back in person if they open up. The school was clear though that when they open they cannot accommodate all of the families who have indicated they want to go back in person.

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Anonymous wrote:Ya'll are funny. Agreement or not there is still no plan to reopen - no date; no plan on how it will work; etc.

BTW I'm struggling but was big in the no go back camp. But now with the vaccine role out I will feel good if we do if all teachers are vaccinated.

Also as DC is a unique city - the Hill will begin vaccinating staff which makes me feel better to getting more people vaccinated quicker.

I am a teacher and I would love to get the vaccine so I can go back to the classroom.

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Anonymous wrote:20th year teaching. Yes, I’ve crossed over the $100,000 mark. I live in DC, and given the cost of living here, I am far from wealthy. Comparing the salaries of teachers in cities with very different costs of living makes zero sense. Of course their salaries are lower. Their apartments also cost $600 a month lol.

I am not remotely suggesting that teachers are overpaid; they aren't. But all of the posts acting like teachers are badly paid are just inaccurate. Head teachers in DCPS make more than the average total income of a kid in a DC public classroom. So if we're feeling really bad for the economic pressure being exerted on teachers to return, think about their students' families.

So you all know teachers are important now right? Has this pandemic taught you that?

Are they as important as a doctor?
A lawyer?

An engineer?

Marketing managers?


The average wage in DC I think is like 69k. Is being a teacher an average job? Is someone who spends the majority of the regular school day with the city's children average?
Is having to have multiple titles in one (that you are not trained for average?)

Even before Covid-19, I think teachers should be paid more. I don't think the pay is bad, but it's not excellent either.
So I imagine most teachers who respond are not talking about hardships due to covid-19.


Regardless I hope we can get back on topic, the agreement has been officially signed and every school will decide the model.

GW and Georgetown and WHC are paying new nurses a starting salary of $58K to work in the ICU with Covid patients. No hazard pay.
Nurses with 10 years of experience at these hospitals are around $80K.

Some professions are just underpaid.

Nurses are the equivalent of paraprofessionals, unless you're a nurse practitioner. Who are paid 80k- 200k. Stop.

Even if they were underpaid, 2 wrongs don't make a what..? :-/

Sorry, what? NURSES are the same as paras? Our para has no college at all, just passed an exam. That is NOT like being a nurse. This is a ridiculous comparison.

I'm sorry your school is poor. All the paras at my school have degrees, some a retired teachers. Just like their are poor LVNs there are poor paras.

So yes nurses are the equivalent. They are important but follow the lead of the doctor. Why is this insulting?

My school isn’t “poor” (wtf?). The point is that any job you can legally do without any post-HS is not the equivalent of a nurse. It’s just not.

No you have to have an associates degree OR pass the exam. So yes very similar to an nurse who can become one with simply an associates. Also there are plenty of jobs that pay well right out of high school, it's just they require skill instead or entrepreneurship.

And 'poor' not like SES, poor as in quality. No school in their right mind would hire someone who is simply a high school graduate, unless they had multiple years of experience and excellent references.

Again why is this a big deal? Paraprofessionals serve as great support in classrooms, they are essential. Just like nurses are essential to doctors.

Do you not know the difference between and LPN and an RN?

I do but it doesn't matter, in their respective field nurses (most not all) are the equivalent to a paraprofessional or assistant teacher. The point is they are not the lead on patients.

you’re a real idiot if you think rn:dr = para:teacher.

Your comment says more about you than me.

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Anonymous wrote:20th year teaching. Yes, I’ve crossed over the $100,000 mark. I live in DC, and given the cost of living here, I am far from wealthy. Comparing the salaries of teachers in cities with very different costs of living makes zero sense. Of course their salaries are lower. Their apartments also cost $600 a month lol.

I am not remotely suggesting that teachers are overpaid; they aren't. But all of the posts acting like teachers are badly paid are just inaccurate. Head teachers in DCPS make more than the average total income of a kid in a DC public classroom. So if we're feeling really bad for the economic pressure being exerted on teachers to return, think about their students' families.

So you all know teachers are important now right? Has this pandemic taught you that?

Are they as important as a doctor?
A lawyer?

An engineer?

Marketing managers?


The average wage in DC I think is like 69k. Is being a teacher an average job? Is someone who spends the majority of the regular school day with the city's children average?
Is having to have multiple titles in one (that you are not trained for average?)

Even before Covid-19, I think teachers should be paid more. I don't think the pay is bad, but it's not excellent either.
So I imagine most teachers who respond are not talking about hardships due to covid-19.


Regardless I hope we can get back on topic, the agreement has been officially signed and every school will decide the model.

GW and Georgetown and WHC are paying new nurses a starting salary of $58K to work in the ICU with Covid patients. No hazard pay.
Nurses with 10 years of experience at these hospitals are around $80K.

Some professions are just underpaid.

Nurses are the equivalent of paraprofessionals, unless you're a nurse practitioner. Who are paid 80k- 200k. Stop.

Even if they were underpaid, 2 wrongs don't make a what..? :-/

Sorry, what? NURSES are the same as paras? Our para has no college at all, just passed an exam. That is NOT like being a nurse. This is a ridiculous comparison.

I'm sorry your school is poor. All the paras at my school have degrees, some a retired teachers. Just like their are poor LVNs there are poor paras.

So yes nurses are the equivalent. They are important but follow the lead of the doctor. Why is this insulting?

My school isn’t “poor” (wtf?). The point is that any job you can legally do without any post-HS is not the equivalent of a nurse. It’s just not.

No you have to have an associates degree OR pass the exam. So yes very similar to an nurse who can become one with simply an associates. Also there are plenty of jobs that pay well right out of high school, it's just they require skill instead or entrepreneurship.

And 'poor' not like SES, poor as in quality. No school in their right mind would hire someone who is simply a high school graduate, unless they had multiple years of experience and excellent references.

Again why is this a big deal? Paraprofessionals serve as great support in classrooms, they are essential. Just like nurses are essential to doctors.

Do you not know the difference between and LPN and an RN?

I do but it doesn't matter, in their respective field nurses (most not all) are the equivalent to a paraprofessional or assistant teacher. The point is they are not the lead on patients.

Yes, and both are like being the assistant store greeter at Walmart; after all, you operate under the guidance of the main greeter! A nurse is not the equivalent of a para in terms of how educated they are or how compensated they should be. Yea, there are some paras as educated as the least educated nurses, but a small overlap in credentials doesn’t make them equivalent. Our nanny has a masters degree, that doesn’t make her the same as an NP.

Is that the best you could come up with? There's no such thing. Also nothing wrong with that, my little sister's classmate works as a Walmart greeter.

I could be a PHD on women's studies but I won't be paid much now will I? Stop using education like it's the main reason someone gets paid. In their respective fields the nurse is very much like a para. This tells me a lot of you really don't know what a para does. No wonder they are paid poorly, you have no respect for their profession.