WTU/DCPS reach agreement

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Anonymous wrote:20th year teaching. Yes, I’ve crossed over the $100,000 mark. I live in DC, and given the cost of living here, I am far from wealthy. Comparing the salaries of teachers in cities with very different costs of living makes zero sense. Of course their salaries are lower. Their apartments also cost $600 a month lol.

I am not remotely suggesting that teachers are overpaid; they aren't. But all of the posts acting like teachers are badly paid are just inaccurate. Head teachers in DCPS make more than the average total income of a kid in a DC public classroom. So if we're feeling really bad for the economic pressure being exerted on teachers to return, think about their students' families.

So you all know teachers are important now right? Has this pandemic taught you that?

Are they as important as a doctor?
A lawyer?

An engineer?

Marketing managers?


The average wage in DC I think is like 69k. Is being a teacher an average job? Is someone who spends the majority of the regular school day with the city's children average?
Is having to have multiple titles in one (that you are not trained for average?)

Even before Covid-19, I think teachers should be paid more. I don't think the pay is bad, but it's not excellent either.
So I imagine most teachers who respond are not talking about hardships due to covid-19.


Regardless I hope we can get back on topic, the agreement has been officially signed and every school will decide the model.

GW and Georgetown and WHC are paying new nurses a starting salary of $58K to work in the ICU with Covid patients. No hazard pay.
Nurses with 10 years of experience at these hospitals are around $80K.

Some professions are just underpaid.

Nurses are the equivalent of paraprofessionals, unless you're a nurse practitioner. Who are paid 80k- 200k. Stop.

Even if they were underpaid, 2 wrongs don't make a what..? :-/

Sorry, what? NURSES are the same as paras? Our para has no college at all, just passed an exam. That is NOT like being a nurse. This is a ridiculous comparison.

I'm sorry your school is poor. All the paras at my school have degrees, some a retired teachers. Just like their are poor LVNs there are poor paras.

So yes nurses are the equivalent. They are important but follow the lead of the doctor. Why is this insulting?

My school isn’t “poor” (wtf?). The point is that any job you can legally do without any post-HS is not the equivalent of a nurse. It’s just not.

No you have to have an associates degree OR pass the exam. So yes very similar to an nurse who can become one with simply an associates. Also there are plenty of jobs that pay well right out of high school, it's just they require skill instead or entrepreneurship.

And 'poor' not like SES, poor as in quality. No school in their right mind would hire someone who is simply a high school graduate, unless they had multiple years of experience and excellent references.

Again why is this a big deal? Paraprofessionals serve as great support in classrooms, they are essential. Just like nurses are essential to doctors.

Do you not know the difference between and LPN and an RN?

I do but it doesn't matter, in their respective field nurses (most not all) are the equivalent to a paraprofessional or assistant teacher. The point is they are not the lead on patients.

Yes, and both are like being the assistant store greeter at Walmart; after all, you operate under the guidance of the main greeter! A nurse is not the equivalent of a para in terms of how educated they are or how compensated they should be. Yea, there are some paras as educated as the least educated nurses, but a small overlap in credentials doesn’t make them equivalent. Our nanny has a masters degree, that doesn’t make her the same as an NP.

Is that the best you could come up with? There's no such thing. Also nothing wrong with that, my little sister's classmate works as a Walmart greeter.

I could be a PHD on women's studies but I won't be paid much now will I? Stop using education like it's the main reason someone gets paid. In their respective fields the nurse is very much like a para. This tells me a lot of you really don't know what a para does. No wonder they are paid poorly, you have no respect for their profession.

this has to be the stupidest detour of the entire discourse. somehow manages to insult both paras and nurses.

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Someone please remind me what the dispute about this analogy has to do with whether teachers should go back to work or not.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone please remind me what the dispute about this analogy has to do with whether teachers should go back to work or not.

The general idea is that nurses have been heroes of the pandemic and teachers have been the opposite of heroes during the pandemic.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone please remind me what the dispute about this analogy has to do with whether teachers should go back to work or not.

The general idea is that nurses have been heroes of the pandemic and teachers have been the opposite of heroes during the pandemic.

Well, that much is true.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone please remind me what the dispute about this analogy has to do with whether teachers should go back to work or not.

The general idea is that nurses have been heroes of the pandemic and teachers have been the opposite of heroes during the pandemic.

Teacher here, I didn’t sign up to be a “hero”.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone please remind me what the dispute about this analogy has to do with whether teachers should go back to work or not.

The general idea is that nurses have been heroes of the pandemic and teachers have been the opposite of heroes during the pandemic.

Teacher here, I didn’t sign up to be a “hero”.

I know right? Where were these parents when parents were paying out of pocket for classroom materials?

We all pull our weight. I just want to be able to live...

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Anonymous wrote:20th year teaching. Yes, I’ve crossed over the $100,000 mark. I live in DC, and given the cost of living here, I am far from wealthy. Comparing the salaries of teachers in cities with very different costs of living makes zero sense. Of course their salaries are lower. Their apartments also cost $600 a month lol.

I am not remotely suggesting that teachers are overpaid; they aren't. But all of the posts acting like teachers are badly paid are just inaccurate. Head teachers in DCPS make more than the average total income of a kid in a DC public classroom. So if we're feeling really bad for the economic pressure being exerted on teachers to return, think about their students' families.

So you all know teachers are important now right? Has this pandemic taught you that?

Are they as important as a doctor?
A lawyer?

An engineer?

Marketing managers?


The average wage in DC I think is like 69k. Is being a teacher an average job? Is someone who spends the majority of the regular school day with the city's children average?
Is having to have multiple titles in one (that you are not trained for average?)

Even before Covid-19, I think teachers should be paid more. I don't think the pay is bad, but it's not excellent either.
So I imagine most teachers who respond are not talking about hardships due to covid-19.


Regardless I hope we can get back on topic, the agreement has been officially signed and every school will decide the model.

GW and Georgetown and WHC are paying new nurses a starting salary of $58K to work in the ICU with Covid patients. No hazard pay.
Nurses with 10 years of experience at these hospitals are around $80K.

Some professions are just underpaid.

Nurses are the equivalent of paraprofessionals, unless you're a nurse practitioner. Who are paid 80k- 200k. Stop.

Even if they were underpaid, 2 wrongs don't make a what..? :-/

Sorry, what? NURSES are the same as paras? Our para has no college at all, just passed an exam. That is NOT like being a nurse. This is a ridiculous comparison.

I'm sorry your school is poor. All the paras at my school have degrees, some a retired teachers. Just like their are poor LVNs there are poor paras.

So yes nurses are the equivalent. They are important but follow the lead of the doctor. Why is this insulting?

My school isn’t “poor” (wtf?). The point is that any job you can legally do without any post-HS is not the equivalent of a nurse. It’s just not.

No you have to have an associates degree OR pass the exam. So yes very similar to an nurse who can become one with simply an associates. Also there are plenty of jobs that pay well right out of high school, it's just they require skill instead or entrepreneurship.

And 'poor' not like SES, poor as in quality. No school in their right mind would hire someone who is simply a high school graduate, unless they had multiple years of experience and excellent references.

Again why is this a big deal? Paraprofessionals serve as great support in classrooms, they are essential. Just like nurses are essential to doctors.

Do you not know the difference between and LPN and an RN?

I do but it doesn't matter, in their respective field nurses (most not all) are the equivalent to a paraprofessional or assistant teacher. The point is they are not the lead on patients.

Yes, and both are like being the assistant store greeter at Walmart; after all, you operate under the guidance of the main greeter! A nurse is not the equivalent of a para in terms of how educated they are or how compensated they should be. Yea, there are some paras as educated as the least educated nurses, but a small overlap in credentials doesn’t make them equivalent. Our nanny has a masters degree, that doesn’t make her the same as an NP.

Is that the best you could come up with? There's no such thing. Also nothing wrong with that, my little sister's classmate works as a Walmart greeter.

I could be a PHD on women's studies but I won't be paid much now will I? Stop using education like it's the main reason someone gets paid. In their respective fields the nurse is very much like a para. This tells me a lot of you really don't know what a para does. No wonder they are paid poorly, you have no respect for their profession.

this has to be the stupidest detour of the entire discourse. somehow manages to insult both paras and nurses.

This whole thread is stupid. Like 70% of the people who post.

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Anonymous wrote:20th year teaching. Yes, I’ve crossed over the $100,000 mark. I live in DC, and given the cost of living here, I am far from wealthy. Comparing the salaries of teachers in cities with very different costs of living makes zero sense. Of course their salaries are lower. Their apartments also cost $600 a month lol.

I am not remotely suggesting that teachers are overpaid; they aren't. But all of the posts acting like teachers are badly paid are just inaccurate. Head teachers in DCPS make more than the average total income of a kid in a DC public classroom. So if we're feeling really bad for the economic pressure being exerted on teachers to return, think about their students' families.

So you all know teachers are important now right? Has this pandemic taught you that?

Are they as important as a doctor?
A lawyer?

An engineer?

Marketing managers?


The average wage in DC I think is like 69k. Is being a teacher an average job? Is someone who spends the majority of the regular school day with the city's children average?
Is having to have multiple titles in one (that you are not trained for average?)

Even before Covid-19, I think teachers should be paid more. I don't think the pay is bad, but it's not excellent either.
So I imagine most teachers who respond are not talking about hardships due to covid-19.


Regardless I hope we can get back on topic, the agreement has been officially signed and every school will decide the model.

GW and Georgetown and WHC are paying new nurses a starting salary of $58K to work in the ICU with Covid patients. No hazard pay.
Nurses with 10 years of experience at these hospitals are around $80K.

Some professions are just underpaid.

Nurses are the equivalent of paraprofessionals, unless you're a nurse practitioner. Who are paid 80k- 200k. Stop.

Even if they were underpaid, 2 wrongs don't make a what..? :-/

Sorry, what? NURSES are the same as paras? Our para has no college at all, just passed an exam. That is NOT like being a nurse. This is a ridiculous comparison.

I'm sorry your school is poor. All the paras at my school have degrees, some a retired teachers. Just like their are poor LVNs there are poor paras.

So yes nurses are the equivalent. They are important but follow the lead of the doctor. Why is this insulting?

My school isn’t “poor” (wtf?). The point is that any job you can legally do without any post-HS is not the equivalent of a nurse. It’s just not.

No you have to have an associates degree OR pass the exam. So yes very similar to an nurse who can become one with simply an associates. Also there are plenty of jobs that pay well right out of high school, it's just they require skill instead or entrepreneurship.

And 'poor' not like SES, poor as in quality. No school in their right mind would hire someone who is simply a high school graduate, unless they had multiple years of experience and excellent references.

Again why is this a big deal? Paraprofessionals serve as great support in classrooms, they are essential. Just like nurses are essential to doctors.

Do you not know the difference between and LPN and an RN?

I do but it doesn't matter, in their respective field nurses (most not all) are the equivalent to a paraprofessional or assistant teacher. The point is they are not the lead on patients.

Yes, and both are like being the assistant store greeter at Walmart; after all, you operate under the guidance of the main greeter! A nurse is not the equivalent of a para in terms of how educated they are or how compensated they should be. Yea, there are some paras as educated as the least educated nurses, but a small overlap in credentials doesn’t make them equivalent. Our nanny has a masters degree, that doesn’t make her the same as an NP.

Is that the best you could come up with? There's no such thing. Also nothing wrong with that, my little sister's classmate works as a Walmart greeter.

I could be a PHD on women's studies but I won't be paid much now will I? Stop using education like it's the main reason someone gets paid. In their respective fields the nurse is very much like a para. This tells me a lot of you really don't know what a para does. No wonder they are paid poorly, you have no respect for their profession.

this has to be the stupidest detour of the entire discourse. somehow manages to insult both paras and nurses.

This whole thread is stupid. Like 70% of the people who post.

YES, and it’s a rehash of like 50 other threads.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone please remind me what the dispute about this analogy has to do with whether teachers should go back to work or not.

The general idea is that nurses have been heroes of the pandemic and teachers have been the opposite of heroes during the pandemic.

Teacher here, I didn’t sign up to be a “hero”.

Clearly. You’re the villain in this story. Thanks for screwing over my kids, even when the coronavirus levels in DC were so low they were practically nonexistent.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone please remind me what the dispute about this analogy has to do with whether teachers should go back to work or not.

The general idea is that nurses have been heroes of the pandemic and teachers have been the opposite of heroes during the pandemic.

Teacher here, I didn’t sign up to be a “hero”.

Clearly. You’re the villain in this story. Thanks for screwing over my kids, even when the coronavirus levels in DC were so low they were practically nonexistent.

You are so very welcome.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone please remind me what the dispute about this analogy has to do with whether teachers should go back to work or not.

The general idea is that nurses have been heroes of the pandemic and teachers have been the opposite of heroes during the pandemic.

Teacher here, I didn’t sign up to be a “hero”.

Clearly. You’re the villain in this story. Thanks for screwing over my kids, even when the coronavirus levels in DC were so low they were practically nonexistent.

And you are are a special kind of sh((y entitled brat. Your kids won't do well in this world because they are probably suffering at home being with you.

https://dccovid.com/#schools-data

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Got to love these last comments. The above link is the best part. Thanks for sharing. I like looking at pretty pictures. Pity the data says cases are on the rise. 8 current DCPS are closed due to COVID cases. This is disturbing to say the least.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone please remind me what the dispute about this analogy has to do with whether teachers should go back to work or not.

The general idea is that nurses have been heroes of the pandemic and teachers have been the opposite of heroes during the pandemic.

Teacher here, I didn’t sign up to be a “hero”.

Clearly. You’re the villain in this story. Thanks for screwing over my kids, even when the coronavirus levels in DC were so low they were practically nonexistent.

And you are are a special kind of sh((y entitled brat. Your kids won't do well in this world because they are probably suffering at home being with you.

https://dccovid.com/#schools-data

The behavior of WTU and the DCPS teachers that sustain them has been deplorable over the past few months. Even Fauci has called you guys out.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone please remind me what the dispute about this analogy has to do with whether teachers should go back to work or not.

The general idea is that nurses have been heroes of the pandemic and teachers have been the opposite of heroes during the pandemic.

Teacher here, I didn’t sign up to be a “hero”.

Clearly. You’re the villain in this story. Thanks for screwing over my kids, even when the coronavirus levels in DC were so low they were practically nonexistent.

And you are are a special kind of sh((y entitled brat. Your kids won't do well in this world because they are probably suffering at home being with you.

https://dccovid.com/#schools-data

The behavior of WTU and the DCPS teachers that sustain them has been deplorable over the past few months. Even Fauci has called you guys out.

It’s awesome isn’t it? We just revel in the fact that everyone hates us. It gives us strength and we feed off of it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone please remind me what the dispute about this analogy has to do with whether teachers should go back to work or not.

The general idea is that nurses have been heroes of the pandemic and teachers have been the opposite of heroes during the pandemic.

Teacher here, I didn’t sign up to be a “hero”.

Clearly. You’re the villain in this story. Thanks for screwing over my kids, even when the coronavirus levels in DC were so low they were practically nonexistent.

And you are are a special kind of sh((y entitled brat. Your kids won't do well in this world because they are probably suffering at home being with you.

https://dccovid.com/#schools-data

The behavior of WTU and the DCPS teachers that sustain them has been deplorable over the past few months. Even Fauci has called you guys out.

It’s awesome isn’t it? We just revel in the fact that everyone hates us. It gives us strength and we feed off of it.

Just like the Trumpers.