Please don't talk to me about equity in schools ever again

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They will fix the equity problems in a couple of years when they adjust the school boundaries.

The equity issues are not going anywhere. They are parents that are able to pay for private tutors during a normal school year. Parents that pay for cogat courses and iq testing so their child gets into gifted programs. Parents who send their child to take a math course during the summer so they get As in it during the school year (yes parents do this) .

Probably do many more tricks that i am not aware of- feel free to add what you know people do to give their child that extra edge (not knocking, ive done some of it).

Boundaries will never change this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They will fix the equity problems in a couple of years when they adjust the school boundaries.

The equity issues are not going anywhere. They are parents that are able to pay for private tutors during a normal school year. Parents that pay for cogat courses and iq testing so their child gets into gifted programs. Parents who send their child to take a math course during the summer so they get As in it during the school year (yes parents do this) .

Probably do many more tricks that i am not aware of- feel free to add what you know people do to give their child that extra edge (not knocking, ive done some of it).

Boundaries will never change this.

I agree 100%. Equity would not go away with F2F schooling or boundary changes. Programs like C2 Education are not cheap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They will fix the equity problems in a couple of years when they adjust the school boundaries.

The equity issues are not going anywhere. They are parents that are able to pay for private tutors during a normal school year. Parents that pay for cogat courses and iq testing so their child gets into gifted programs. Parents who send their child to take a math course during the summer so they get As in it during the school year (yes parents do this) .

Probably do many more tricks that i am not aware of- feel free to add what you know people do to give their child that extra edge (not knocking, ive done some of it).

Boundaries will never change this.

I agree 100%. Equity would not go away with F2F schooling or boundary changes. Programs like C2 Education are not cheap.

Boundary changes could reduce the illegal segregation that’s been going on in the western part of the county for decades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no reason for kids to be left behind academically.

- MCPS provided chrome books to all students who did not have access to computers at home.
- Khan Academy is free and available to learn
- Many curriculum resources are available online.

If kids are alive and disease-free, they will learn.

There are lots of reasons, actually.

No reason for most kids. Special Ed is a different category and their needs are different. FARMS is a nutritional program and ESOL can be taught through DL. I would rather have MCPS community alive and well first. This means kids, teachers and staff - and their families. We have to adapt and we can absolutely do DL with the support of MCPS and families. The problem is that MCPS is doing what it can do and it is giving everyone the same service. It is the parents who are unwilling to do their part and make sure that kids are learning.

Unless you taught ESOL last quarter and had 100 percent participation, you have no idea what you are talking about. Average participation was 25 percent and that’s being generous. DL ESOL was a flop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no reason for kids to be left behind academically.

- MCPS provided chrome books to all students who did not have access to computers at home.
- Khan Academy is free and available to learn
- Many curriculum resources are available online.

If kids are alive and disease-free, they will learn.

There are lots of reasons, actually.

No reason for most kids. Special Ed is a different category and their needs are different. FARMS is a nutritional program and ESOL can be taught through DL. I would rather have MCPS community alive and well first. This means kids, teachers and staff - and their families. We have to adapt and we can absolutely do DL with the support of MCPS and families. The problem is that MCPS is doing what it can do and it is giving everyone the same service. It is the parents who are unwilling to do their part and make sure that kids are learning.

Unless you taught ESOL last quarter and had 100 percent participation, you have no idea what you are talking about. Average participation was 25 percent and that’s being generous. DL ESOL was a flop.

Kids not attending school is the same as kids not attending DL. It’s the responsibility of the parents. You people love to blame everything on teachers don’t you? Prior to COVID-19, if a kid doesn’t show up to the bus stop or go to school, did you also blame the teachers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They will fix the equity problems in a couple of years when they adjust the school boundaries.

The equity issues are not going anywhere. They are parents that are able to pay for private tutors during a normal school year. Parents that pay for cogat courses and iq testing so their child gets into gifted programs. Parents who send their child to take a math course during the summer so they get As in it during the school year (yes parents do this) .

Probably do many more tricks that i am not aware of- feel free to add what you know people do to give their child that extra edge (not knocking, ive done some of it).

Boundaries will never change this.

I agree 100%. Equity would not go away with F2F schooling or boundary changes. Programs like C2 Education are not cheap.

Boundary changes could reduce the illegal segregation that’s been going on in the western part of the county for decades.

Maybe temporary. People with money will start to move. A neighborhood that belongs to a good school cluster has a higher home value. People will move before it decreases too much and will move into the new better cluster neighborhoods.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Clearly it is of no concern to anyone. The kids whose parents can afford private school tuition or to hire a MCPS teacher on LOA for their POD can get education this year. The kids whose parents are educated and SAH/can work from home will get somewhat of an education. The rest will get nothing and noone cares.

Yes. You are right.

Equity can happen in schools but society and individual households are not equitable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clearly it is of no concern to anyone. The kids whose parents can afford private school tuition or to hire a MCPS teacher on LOA for their POD can get education this year. The kids whose parents are educated and SAH/can work from home will get somewhat of an education. The rest will get nothing and noone cares.

Yes. You are right.

Equity can happen in schools but society and individual households are not equitable.

Equitability means that all kids are taught the same but it doesn’t mean they all learn the same.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
Saving lives > education.

Always and for ever.

That's a foolish statement, PP. How many lives saved, compared to how many people's education affected (and affected how much)? For example, would you be willing to close all schools in the US for a year, if doing so saved one life? How about saving two lives by closing all high schools in the US for half a year? Etc. etc. etc.

Because that is what this amounts to. It's insane.

[Anonymous]

I don’t know.
There are plenty of low income individuals or Individuals of disadvantaged populations Who figure out how to provide extra educational opportunities and supplementation to their children. We all went to college with their kids.

They aren’t the rule, but they can be held up as an example of what works.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no reason for kids to be left behind academically.

- MCPS provided chrome books to all students who did not have access to computers at home.
- Khan Academy is free and available to learn
- Many curriculum resources are available online.

If kids are alive and disease-free, they will learn.

There are lots of reasons, actually.

No reason for most kids. Special Ed is a different category and their needs are different. FARMS is a nutritional program and ESOL can be taught through DL. I would rather have MCPS community alive and well first. This means kids, teachers and staff - and their families. We have to adapt and we can absolutely do DL with the support of MCPS and families. The problem is that MCPS is doing what it can do and it is giving everyone the same service. It is the parents who are unwilling to do their part and make sure that kids are learning.

Neighbor is a teacher in a Title 1 school. She mentioned that one issue that people seemed to forget about was that grandma or grandpa is staying home to supervise DL while the parents are at work. GMA/GPA don't speak English, are not tech savvy, and she mentioned in some cases are unable to read in their native language. The kids were being supervised but there was no one to assist with learning at home. An upper elem kid may not need help but a K-2 certainly needed help logging into zoom.
Unless you taught ESOL last quarter and had 100 percent participation, you have no idea what you are talking about. Average participation was 25 percent and that’s being generous. DL ESOL was a flop.

Kids not attending school is the same as kids not attending DL. It’s the responsibility of the parents. You people love to blame everything on teachers don’t you? Prior to COVID-19, if a kid doesn’t show up to the bus stop or go to school, did you also blame the teachers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know.
There are plenty of low income individuals or Individuals of disadvantaged populations Who figure out how to provide extra educational opportunities and supplementation to their children. We all went to college with their kids.

They aren’t the rule, but they can be held up as an example of what works.

Neither was Michael Jordan, and we don't hold him up as an example of how everybody could play basketball if they only put their minds to it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know.
There are plenty of low income individuals or Individuals of disadvantaged populations Who figure out how to provide extra educational opportunities and supplementation to their children. We all went to college with their kids.

They aren’t the rule, but they can be held up as an example of what works.

I went through grade school with many poor kids. I know cause I was one of them. We all had free lunches cause we couldn’t afford it, but we all studied. I didn’t have a choice because my single mother would whip me if I didn’t.

We all went to U of Maryland on financial aid and student loans while working as well. We all graduated. You just can’t believe how proud we were of each other. We were not tops of our school so none of us got scholarships.

I can’t describe the feeling I had after taking home my pay.....but it was such an incredible feeling of accomplishment.

[Anonymous]

What’s the point, even if education is equal... Thad gets the job over Lamar

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no reason for kids to be left behind academically.

- MCPS provided chrome books to all students who did not have access to computers at home.
- Khan Academy is free and available to learn
- Many curriculum resources are available online.

If kids are alive and disease-free, they will learn.

There are lots of reasons, actually.

No reason for most kids. Special Ed is a different category and their needs are different. FARMS is a nutritional program and ESOL can be taught through DL. I would rather have MCPS community alive and well first. This means kids, teachers and staff - and their families. We have to adapt and we can absolutely do DL with the support of MCPS and families. The problem is that MCPS is doing what it can do and it is giving everyone the same service. It is the parents who are unwilling to do their part and make sure that kids are learning.

Unless you taught ESOL last quarter and had 100 percent participation, you have no idea what you are talking about. Average participation was 25 percent and that’s being generous. DL ESOL was a flop.

Kids not attending school is the same as kids not attending DL. It’s the responsibility of the parents. You people love to blame everything on teachers don’t you? Prior to COVID-19, if a kid doesn’t show up to the bus stop or go to school, did you also blame the teachers?

Would you say the same about inner city kids? I didn’t think so! Again, you have NO idea what you are talking about.