Is GAL just letting anyone in? What ECNL should have done

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Anonymous wrote:And lastly, I described a free market. As in you are free to choose the product to purchase at your own free will and the producer is free to produce the product. The consumer will decide. The winners will win and the loser will lose

The consumer’s choices are artificially limited by private agreements among clubs and teams that might otherwise compete. Of course these clubs want to limit competition. Many of the parents enjoy the artificial barriers to entry - they are essentially buying exclusivity and exclusion. Put aside whether this is a free market. It might even be competitive in the sense of recruitment. But the final product is crap. So if the final product is crap, the system might not be producing good outcomes or welfare enhancement even though you are describing a free market. I think the inability to do better (and simply give in to the club v club format) is a classic collective action problem. We will never solve it because there are too many parents too dumb or lazy or smug to do something different or better. Thanks bozos!

Come off your "smarter than thou" pedestal for one second and talk in layman's terms.

Give us all a real life example of a team that you think should be promoted.

Let me simplify his post for you. I'm still angry that you won't let my GAL club into ECNL, but I think it's too hard to fix, so I'm just going to throw shade on your intelligence and the quality of your product, and use my high falutin writing style to obscure my real point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And lastly, I described a free market. As in you are free to choose the product to purchase at your own free will and the producer is free to produce the product. The consumer will decide. The winners will win and the loser will lose

The consumer’s choices are artificially limited by private agreements among clubs and teams that might otherwise compete. Of course these clubs want to limit competition. Many of the parents enjoy the artificial barriers to entry - they are essentially buying exclusivity and exclusion. Put aside whether this is a free market. It might even be competitive in the sense of recruitment. But the final product is crap. So if the final product is crap, the system might not be producing good outcomes or welfare enhancement even though you are describing a free market. I think the inability to do better (and simply give in to the club v club format) is a classic collective action problem. We will never solve it because there are too many parents too dumb or lazy or smug to do something different or better. Thanks bozos!

Come off your "smarter than thou" pedestal for one second and talk in layman's terms.

Give us all a real life example of a team that you think should be promoted.

Let me simplify his post for you. I'm still angry that you won't let my GAL club into ECNL, but I think it's too hard to fix, so I'm just going to throw shade on your intelligence and the quality of your product, and use my high falutin writing style to obscure my real point.

You are actually pretty dumb if you believe the PP has a kid on a GA team. This is a parent who believes their DD’s team can compete with and beat a GA/ECNL team. And if we are talking 06 and younger he is probably right.

And there certainly some ECNL/GA teams older than 05 who are quite average.

Frankly, it isn’t particularly hard to make many of these teams which is laughable considering the posturing and flaunting the parents do here. So much arrogance for such a diluted area.

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Anonymous wrote:And lastly, I described a free market. As in you are free to choose the product to purchase at your own free will and the producer is free to produce the product. The consumer will decide. The winners will win and the loser will lose

The consumer’s choices are artificially limited by private agreements among clubs and teams that might otherwise compete. Of course these clubs want to limit competition. Many of the parents enjoy the artificial barriers to entry - they are essentially buying exclusivity and exclusion. Put aside whether this is a free market. It might even be competitive in the sense of recruitment. But the final product is crap. So if the final product is crap, the system might not be producing good outcomes or welfare enhancement even though you are describing a free market. I think the inability to do better (and simply give in to the club v club format) is a classic collective action problem. We will never solve it because there are too many parents too dumb or lazy or smug to do something different or better. Thanks bozos!

Come off your "smarter than thou" pedestal for one second and talk in layman's terms.

Give us all a real life example of a team that you think should be promoted.

Let me simplify his post for you. I'm still angry that you won't let my GAL club into ECNL, but I think it's too hard to fix, so I'm just going to throw shade on your intelligence and the quality of your product, and use my high falutin writing style to obscure my real point.

You are actually pretty dumb if you believe the PP has a kid on a GA team. This is a parent who believes their DD’s team can compete with and beat a GA/ECNL team. And if we are talking 06 and younger he is probably right.

And there certainly some ECNL/GA teams older than 05 who are quite average.

Frankly, it isn’t particularly hard to make many of these teams which is laughable considering the posturing and flaunting the parents do here. So much arrogance for such a diluted area.

And you daughter plays on one of the average teams and you pay thousands for it because you think she's the exception. Who's dumb now, Champ?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And lastly, I described a free market. As in you are free to choose the product to purchase at your own free will and the producer is free to produce the product. The consumer will decide. The winners will win and the loser will lose

The consumer’s choices are artificially limited by private agreements among clubs and teams that might otherwise compete. Of course these clubs want to limit competition. Many of the parents enjoy the artificial barriers to entry - they are essentially buying exclusivity and exclusion. Put aside whether this is a free market. It might even be competitive in the sense of recruitment. But the final product is crap. So if the final product is crap, the system might not be producing good outcomes or welfare enhancement even though you are describing a free market. I think the inability to do better (and simply give in to the club v club format) is a classic collective action problem. We will never solve it because there are too many parents too dumb or lazy or smug to do something different or better. Thanks bozos!

Come off your "smarter than thou" pedestal for one second and talk in layman's terms.

Give us all a real life example of a team that you think should be promoted.

Let me simplify his post for you. I'm still angry that you won't let my GAL club into ECNL, but I think it's too hard to fix, so I'm just going to throw shade on your intelligence and the quality of your product, and use my high falutin writing style to obscure my real point.

You are actually pretty dumb if you believe the PP has a kid on a GA team. This is a parent who believes their DD’s team can compete with and beat a GA/ECNL team. And if we are talking 06 and younger he is probably right.

And there certainly some ECNL/GA teams older than 05 who are quite average.

Frankly, it isn’t particularly hard to make many of these teams which is laughable considering the posturing and flaunting the parents do here. So much arrogance for such a diluted area.

And you daughter plays on one of the average teams and you pay thousands for it because you think she's the exception. Who's dumb now, Champ?

All our DDs play on average teams. There is nothing special about the patch any of the kids wear.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And lastly, I described a free market. As in you are free to choose the product to purchase at your own free will and the producer is free to produce the product. The consumer will decide. The winners will win and the loser will lose

The consumer’s choices are artificially limited by private agreements among clubs and teams that might otherwise compete. Of course these clubs want to limit competition. Many of the parents enjoy the artificial barriers to entry - they are essentially buying exclusivity and exclusion. Put aside whether this is a free market. It might even be competitive in the sense of recruitment. But the final product is crap. So if the final product is crap, the system might not be producing good outcomes or welfare enhancement even though you are describing a free market. I think the inability to do better (and simply give in to the club v club format) is a classic collective action problem. We will never solve it because there are too many parents too dumb or lazy or smug to do something different or better. Thanks bozos!

Come off your "smarter than thou" pedestal for one second and talk in layman's terms.

Give us all a real life example of a team that you think should be promoted.

Let me simplify his post for you. I'm still angry that you won't let my GAL club into ECNL, but I think it's too hard to fix, so I'm just going to throw shade on your intelligence and the quality of your product, and use my high falutin writing style to obscure my real point.

You are actually pretty dumb if you believe the PP has a kid on a GA team. This is a parent who believes their DD’s team can compete with and beat a GA/ECNL team. And if we are talking 06 and younger he is probably right.

And there certainly some ECNL/GA teams older than 05 who are quite average.

Frankly, it isn’t particularly hard to make many of these teams which is laughable considering the posturing and flaunting the parents do here. So much arrogance for such a diluted area.

And you daughter plays on one of the average teams and you pay thousands for it because you think she's the exception. Who's dumb now, Champ?

All our DDs play on average teams. There is nothing special about the patch any of the kids wear.

You have obviously lost sense of what is average.

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Anonymous wrote:And lastly, I described a free market. As in you are free to choose the product to purchase at your own free will and the producer is free to produce the product. The consumer will decide. The winners will win and the loser will lose

The consumer’s choices are artificially limited by private agreements among clubs and teams that might otherwise compete. Of course these clubs want to limit competition. Many of the parents enjoy the artificial barriers to entry - they are essentially buying exclusivity and exclusion. Put aside whether this is a free market. It might even be competitive in the sense of recruitment. But the final product is crap. So if the final product is crap, the system might not be producing good outcomes or welfare enhancement even though you are describing a free market. I think the inability to do better (and simply give in to the club v club format) is a classic collective action problem. We will never solve it because there are too many parents too dumb or lazy or smug to do something different or better. Thanks bozos!

Come off your "smarter than thou" pedestal for one second and talk in layman's terms.

Give us all a real life example of a team that you think should be promoted.

Let me simplify his post for you. I'm still angry that you won't let my GAL club into ECNL, but I think it's too hard to fix, so I'm just going to throw shade on your intelligence and the quality of your product, and use my high falutin writing style to obscure my real point.

You are actually pretty dumb if you believe the PP has a kid on a GA team. This is a parent who believes their DD’s team can compete with and beat a GA/ECNL team. And if we are talking 06 and younger he is probably right.

And there certainly some ECNL/GA teams older than 05 who are quite average.

Frankly, it isn’t particularly hard to make many of these teams which is laughable considering the posturing and flaunting the parents do here. So much arrogance for such a diluted area.

And you daughter plays on one of the average teams and you pay thousands for it because you think she's the exception. Who's dumb now, Champ?

All our DDs play on average teams. There is nothing special about the patch any of the kids wear.

Name us a not so average team.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And lastly, I described a free market. As in you are free to choose the product to purchase at your own free will and the producer is free to produce the product. The consumer will decide. The winners will win and the loser will lose

The consumer’s choices are artificially limited by private agreements among clubs and teams that might otherwise compete. Of course these clubs want to limit competition. Many of the parents enjoy the artificial barriers to entry - they are essentially buying exclusivity and exclusion. Put aside whether this is a free market. It might even be competitive in the sense of recruitment. But the final product is crap. So if the final product is crap, the system might not be producing good outcomes or welfare enhancement even though you are describing a free market. I think the inability to do better (and simply give in to the club v club format) is a classic collective action problem. We will never solve it because there are too many parents too dumb or lazy or smug to do something different or better. Thanks bozos!

Come off your "smarter than thou" pedestal for one second and talk in layman's terms.

Give us all a real life example of a team that you think should be promoted.

Let me simplify his post for you. I'm still angry that you won't let my GAL club into ECNL, but I think it's too hard to fix, so I'm just going to throw shade on your intelligence and the quality of your product, and use my high falutin writing style to obscure my real point.

You are actually pretty dumb if you believe the PP has a kid on a GA team. This is a parent who believes their DD’s team can compete with and beat a GA/ECNL team. And if we are talking 06 and younger he is probably right.

And there certainly some ECNL/GA teams older than 05 who are quite average.

Frankly, it isn’t particularly hard to make many of these teams which is laughable considering the posturing and flaunting the parents do here. So much arrogance for such a diluted area.

That’s a pretty foolish parent then.

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Anonymous wrote:And lastly, I described a free market. As in you are free to choose the product to purchase at your own free will and the producer is free to produce the product. The consumer will decide. The winners will win and the loser will lose

The consumer’s choices are artificially limited by private agreements among clubs and teams that might otherwise compete. Of course these clubs want to limit competition. Many of the parents enjoy the artificial barriers to entry - they are essentially buying exclusivity and exclusion. Put aside whether this is a free market. It might even be competitive in the sense of recruitment. But the final product is crap. So if the final product is crap, the system might not be producing good outcomes or welfare enhancement even though you are describing a free market. I think the inability to do better (and simply give in to the club v club format) is a classic collective action problem. We will never solve it because there are too many parents too dumb or lazy or smug to do something different or better. Thanks bozos!

Come off your "smarter than thou" pedestal for one second and talk in layman's terms.

Give us all a real life example of a team that you think should be promoted.

Let me simplify his post for you. I'm still angry that you won't let my GAL club into ECNL, but I think it's too hard to fix, so I'm just going to throw shade on your intelligence and the quality of your product, and use my high falutin writing style to obscure my real point.

You are actually pretty dumb if you believe the PP has a kid on a GA team. This is a parent who believes their DD’s team can compete with and beat a GA/ECNL team. And if we are talking 06 and younger he is probably right.

And there certainly some ECNL/GA teams older than 05 who are quite average.

Frankly, it isn’t particularly hard to make many of these teams which is laughable considering the posturing and flaunting the parents do here. So much arrogance for such a diluted area.

And you daughter plays on one of the average teams and you pay thousands for it because you think she's the exception. Who's dumb now, Champ?

All our DDs play on average teams. There is nothing special about the patch any of the kids wear.

You have obviously lost sense of what is average.

No, you believe your DD’s patch makes her exceptional. Our ECNL teams are not even the best in their own conference and you think they are exceptional?

Each GA and ECNL team may have 3-4 exceptional players but the rest are average. And next year, when showcase after showcase is cancelled and the only way to be seen is league agnostic ID Camps you’ll find out.

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Anonymous wrote:And lastly, I described a free market. As in you are free to choose the product to purchase at your own free will and the producer is free to produce the product. The consumer will decide. The winners will win and the loser will lose

The consumer’s choices are artificially limited by private agreements among clubs and teams that might otherwise compete. Of course these clubs want to limit competition. Many of the parents enjoy the artificial barriers to entry - they are essentially buying exclusivity and exclusion. Put aside whether this is a free market. It might even be competitive in the sense of recruitment. But the final product is crap. So if the final product is crap, the system might not be producing good outcomes or welfare enhancement even though you are describing a free market. I think the inability to do better (and simply give in to the club v club format) is a classic collective action problem. We will never solve it because there are too many parents too dumb or lazy or smug to do something different or better. Thanks bozos!

Come off your "smarter than thou" pedestal for one second and talk in layman's terms.

Give us all a real life example of a team that you think should be promoted.

Let me simplify his post for you. I'm still angry that you won't let my GAL club into ECNL, but I think it's too hard to fix, so I'm just going to throw shade on your intelligence and the quality of your product, and use my high falutin writing style to obscure my real point.

You are actually pretty dumb if you believe the PP has a kid on a GA team. This is a parent who believes their DD’s team can compete with and beat a GA/ECNL team. And if we are talking 06 and younger he is probably right.

And there certainly some ECNL/GA teams older than 05 who are quite average.

Frankly, it isn’t particularly hard to make many of these teams which is laughable considering the posturing and flaunting the parents do here. So much arrogance for such a diluted area.

And you daughter plays on one of the average teams and you pay thousands for it because you think she's the exception. Who's dumb now, Champ?

All our DDs play on average teams. There is nothing special about the patch any of the kids wear.

You have obviously lost sense of what is average.

No, you believe your DD’s patch makes her exceptional. Our ECNL teams are not even the best in their own conference and you think they are exceptional?

Each GA and ECNL team may have 3-4 exceptional players but the rest are average. And next year, when showcase after showcase is cancelled and the only way to be seen is league agnostic ID Camps you’ll find out.

I'm a parent that's been around for a long time. I can tell, you haven't. You're easy to spot. Loudest one at the table. A previous poster was right....your not a parent of an ECNL parent.

And, you have no concept of what average is. An average player in the ECNL would dominate a lower league. A exceptional player in a lower league would be average in the ECNL. Again, average is relative.

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Anonymous wrote:And lastly, I described a free market. As in you are free to choose the product to purchase at your own free will and the producer is free to produce the product. The consumer will decide. The winners will win and the loser will lose

The consumer’s choices are artificially limited by private agreements among clubs and teams that might otherwise compete. Of course these clubs want to limit competition. Many of the parents enjoy the artificial barriers to entry - they are essentially buying exclusivity and exclusion. Put aside whether this is a free market. It might even be competitive in the sense of recruitment. But the final product is crap. So if the final product is crap, the system might not be producing good outcomes or welfare enhancement even though you are describing a free market. I think the inability to do better (and simply give in to the club v club format) is a classic collective action problem. We will never solve it because there are too many parents too dumb or lazy or smug to do something different or better. Thanks bozos!

Come off your "smarter than thou" pedestal for one second and talk in layman's terms.

Give us all a real life example of a team that you think should be promoted.

Let me simplify his post for you. I'm still angry that you won't let my GAL club into ECNL, but I think it's too hard to fix, so I'm just going to throw shade on your intelligence and the quality of your product, and use my high falutin writing style to obscure my real point.

You are actually pretty dumb if you believe the PP has a kid on a GA team. This is a parent who believes their DD’s team can compete with and beat a GA/ECNL team. And if we are talking 06 and younger he is probably right.

And there certainly some ECNL/GA teams older than 05 who are quite average.

Frankly, it isn’t particularly hard to make many of these teams which is laughable considering the posturing and flaunting the parents do here. So much arrogance for such a diluted area.

And you daughter plays on one of the average teams and you pay thousands for it because you think she's the exception. Who's dumb now, Champ?

All our DDs play on average teams. There is nothing special about the patch any of the kids wear.

You have obviously lost sense of what is average.

No, you believe your DD’s patch makes her exceptional. Our ECNL teams are not even the best in their own conference and you think they are exceptional?

Each GA and ECNL team may have 3-4 exceptional players but the rest are average. And next year, when showcase after showcase is cancelled and the only way to be seen is league agnostic ID Camps you’ll find out.

What makes you so sure ID camps will go on if tournaments and showcases are cancelled?

Moreover, why is a non-ECNL/GA parent so involved in a thread that has nothing to do with them?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And lastly, I described a free market. As in you are free to choose the product to purchase at your own free will and the producer is free to produce the product. The consumer will decide. The winners will win and the loser will lose

The consumer’s choices are artificially limited by private agreements among clubs and teams that might otherwise compete. Of course these clubs want to limit competition. Many of the parents enjoy the artificial barriers to entry - they are essentially buying exclusivity and exclusion. Put aside whether this is a free market. It might even be competitive in the sense of recruitment. But the final product is crap. So if the final product is crap, the system might not be producing good outcomes or welfare enhancement even though you are describing a free market. I think the inability to do better (and simply give in to the club v club format) is a classic collective action problem. We will never solve it because there are too many parents too dumb or lazy or smug to do something different or better. Thanks bozos!

Come off your "smarter than thou" pedestal for one second and talk in layman's terms.

Give us all a real life example of a team that you think should be promoted.

Huh? I think my pedestal is justified if that is the question you think follows.

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Anonymous wrote:And lastly, I described a free market. As in you are free to choose the product to purchase at your own free will and the producer is free to produce the product. The consumer will decide. The winners will win and the loser will lose

The consumer’s choices are artificially limited by private agreements among clubs and teams that might otherwise compete. Of course these clubs want to limit competition. Many of the parents enjoy the artificial barriers to entry - they are essentially buying exclusivity and exclusion. Put aside whether this is a free market. It might even be competitive in the sense of recruitment. But the final product is crap. So if the final product is crap, the system might not be producing good outcomes or welfare enhancement even though you are describing a free market. I think the inability to do better (and simply give in to the club v club format) is a classic collective action problem. We will never solve it because there are too many parents too dumb or lazy or smug to do something different or better. Thanks bozos!

Come off your "smarter than thou" pedestal for one second and talk in layman's terms.

Give us all a real life example of a team that you think should be promoted.

Let me simplify his post for you. I'm still angry that you won't let my GAL club into ECNL, but I think it's too hard to fix, so I'm just going to throw shade on your intelligence and the quality of your product, and use my high falutin writing style to obscure my real point.

You are actually pretty dumb if you believe the PP has a kid on a GA team. This is a parent who believes their DD’s team can compete with and beat a GA/ECNL team. And if we are talking 06 and younger he is probably right.

And there certainly some ECNL/GA teams older than 05 who are quite average.

Frankly, it isn’t particularly hard to make many of these teams which is laughable considering the posturing and flaunting the parents do here. So much arrogance for such a diluted area.

And you daughter plays on one of the average teams and you pay thousands for it because you think she's the exception. Who's dumb now, Champ?

All our DDs play on average teams. There is nothing special about the patch any of the kids wear.

You have obviously lost sense of what is average.

No, you believe your DD’s patch makes her exceptional. Our ECNL teams are not even the best in their own conference and you think they are exceptional?

Each GA and ECNL team may have 3-4 exceptional players but the rest are average. And next year, when showcase after showcase is cancelled and the only way to be seen is league agnostic ID Camps you’ll find out.

I'm a parent that's been around for a long time. I can tell, you haven't. You're easy to spot. Loudest one at the table. A previous poster was right....your not a parent of an ECNL parent.

And, you have no concept of what average is. An average player in the ECNL would dominate a lower league. A exceptional player in a lower league would be average in the ECNL. Again, average is relative.

So you have been around a long time in travel soccer? The DA teams in SoCal would have a tough time against an ECNL team from the DMV...lol I doubt any of the players in this area would make one of those teams. Vanderbilt is in the SEC much like the clubs in the DMV are in the ECNL

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Anonymous wrote:And lastly, I described a free market. As in you are free to choose the product to purchase at your own free will and the producer is free to produce the product. The consumer will decide. The winners will win and the loser will lose

The consumer’s choices are artificially limited by private agreements among clubs and teams that might otherwise compete. Of course these clubs want to limit competition. Many of the parents enjoy the artificial barriers to entry - they are essentially buying exclusivity and exclusion. Put aside whether this is a free market. It might even be competitive in the sense of recruitment. But the final product is crap. So if the final product is crap, the system might not be producing good outcomes or welfare enhancement even though you are describing a free market. I think the inability to do better (and simply give in to the club v club format) is a classic collective action problem. We will never solve it because there are too many parents too dumb or lazy or smug to do something different or better. Thanks bozos!

Come off your "smarter than thou" pedestal for one second and talk in layman's terms.

Give us all a real life example of a team that you think should be promoted.

Let me simplify his post for you. I'm still angry that you won't let my GAL club into ECNL, but I think it's too hard to fix, so I'm just going to throw shade on your intelligence and the quality of your product, and use my high falutin writing style to obscure my real point.

You are actually pretty dumb if you believe the PP has a kid on a GA team. This is a parent who believes their DD’s team can compete with and beat a GA/ECNL team. And if we are talking 06 and younger he is probably right.

And there certainly some ECNL/GA teams older than 05 who are quite average.

Frankly, it isn’t particularly hard to make many of these teams which is laughable considering the posturing and flaunting the parents do here. So much arrogance for such a diluted area.

And you daughter plays on one of the average teams and you pay thousands for it because you think she's the exception. Who's dumb now, Champ?

All our DDs play on average teams. There is nothing special about the patch any of the kids wear.

You have obviously lost sense of what is average.

No, you believe your DD’s patch makes her exceptional. Our ECNL teams are not even the best in their own conference and you think they are exceptional?

Each GA and ECNL team may have 3-4 exceptional players but the rest are average. And next year, when showcase after showcase is cancelled and the only way to be seen is league agnostic ID Camps you’ll find out.

What makes you so sure ID camps will go on if tournaments and showcases are cancelled?

Moreover, why is a non-ECNL/GA parent so involved in a thread that has nothing to do with them?

Because ID camps can control the number of participants

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Anonymous wrote:And lastly, I described a free market. As in you are free to choose the product to purchase at your own free will and the producer is free to produce the product. The consumer will decide. The winners will win and the loser will lose

The consumer’s choices are artificially limited by private agreements among clubs and teams that might otherwise compete. Of course these clubs want to limit competition. Many of the parents enjoy the artificial barriers to entry - they are essentially buying exclusivity and exclusion. Put aside whether this is a free market. It might even be competitive in the sense of recruitment. But the final product is crap. So if the final product is crap, the system might not be producing good outcomes or welfare enhancement even though you are describing a free market. I think the inability to do better (and simply give in to the club v club format) is a classic collective action problem. We will never solve it because there are too many parents too dumb or lazy or smug to do something different or better. Thanks bozos!

Come off your "smarter than thou" pedestal for one second and talk in layman's terms.

Give us all a real life example of a team that you think should be promoted.

Let me simplify his post for you. I'm still angry that you won't let my GAL club into ECNL, but I think it's too hard to fix, so I'm just going to throw shade on your intelligence and the quality of your product, and use my high falutin writing style to obscure my real point.

You are actually pretty dumb if you believe the PP has a kid on a GA team. This is a parent who believes their DD’s team can compete with and beat a GA/ECNL team. And if we are talking 06 and younger he is probably right.

And there certainly some ECNL/GA teams older than 05 who are quite average.

Frankly, it isn’t particularly hard to make many of these teams which is laughable considering the posturing and flaunting the parents do here. So much arrogance for such a diluted area.

And you daughter plays on one of the average teams and you pay thousands for it because you think she's the exception. Who's dumb now, Champ?

All our DDs play on average teams. There is nothing special about the patch any of the kids wear.

You have obviously lost sense of what is average.

No, you believe your DD’s patch makes her exceptional. Our ECNL teams are not even the best in their own conference and you think they are exceptional?

Each GA and ECNL team may have 3-4 exceptional players but the rest are average. And next year, when showcase after showcase is cancelled and the only way to be seen is league agnostic ID Camps you’ll find out.

I'm a parent that's been around for a long time. I can tell, you haven't. You're easy to spot. Loudest one at the table. A previous poster was right....your not a parent of an ECNL parent.

And, you have no concept of what average is. An average player in the ECNL would dominate a lower league. A exceptional player in a lower league would be average in the ECNL. Again, average is relative.

Three/four years ago roughly 40 kids per age group in NoVA could play in ECNL. Now ECNL has 80 kids per age group. Keep in mind that 05 and older only McLean has teams built when there were only two ECNL clubs. That means up to 60 kids currently in ECNL per age group did not make either FCV or McLean and you are going to tell me they are NOW exceptional?