Based on what you know, would you let your son or daughter play in a lacrosse game?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When economic viability is on the table, schools can and will waive Title IX. Also, you will likely have D3 schools just outreach cancel sports that we'd all assume should be protected by Title IX and just figure the penalty for a warning is much less than the risk of losses to their revenue sports.

You can't just waive Title IX.

[Anonymous]

No you can't officially waive it, but you have to remember its about far more than athletics. Also, the priority is on compliance not punishment, and the focus is on access to academic opportunities and not athletic opportunities at institutions recieving federal funding. In athletics it doesn't require a numerical one-for-one relative to male sports or even a dollar figure one-for-one. So there is definitely some flexiblity in interpretations, and while the law requires a Title IX coordinator, it doesn't require the massive staff that schools have built up defensively on this issue that will likely see the ax in light of all this.

[Anonymous]

Are you just making this up? It absolutely applies to athletics, compliance and punishment. It does rquire a one-to-one and there is no flexibility. And it does require a massive staff because that's how broad and far reaching the law is. This is just a portion of it relating to athletics.

Athletics programs are considered educational programs and activities. There are three basic parts of Title IX as it applies to athletics:

Participation: Title IX requires that women and men be provided equitable opportunities to participate in sports.
Title IX does not require institutions to offer identical sports but an equal opportunity to play;
Scholarships: Title IX requires that female and male student-athletes receive athletics scholarship dollars proportional to their participation; and
Other benefits:

Title IX requires the equal treatment of female and male student-athletes in the provisions of: (a) equipment and supplies; (b) scheduling of games and practice times; (c) travel and daily allowance/per diem; (d) access to tutoring; (e) coaching, (f) locker rooms, practice and competitive facilities; (g) medical and training facilities and services; (h) housing and dining facilities and services; (i) publicity and promotions; (j) support services and (k) recruitment of student-athletes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are you just making this up? It absolutely applies to athletics, compliance and punishment. It does rquire a one-to-one and there is no flexibility. And it does require a massive staff because that's how broad and far reaching the law is. This is just a portion of it relating to athletics.

Athletics programs are considered educational programs and activities. There are three basic parts of Title IX as it applies to athletics:

Participation: Title IX requires that women and men be provided equitable opportunities to participate in sports.
Title IX does not require institutions to offer identical sports but an equal opportunity to play;
Scholarships: Title IX requires that female and male student-athletes receive athletics scholarship dollars proportional to their participation; and
Other benefits:

Title IX requires the equal treatment of female and male student-athletes in the provisions of: (a) equipment and supplies; (b) scheduling of games and practice times; (c) travel and daily allowance/per diem; (d) access to tutoring; (e) coaching, (f) locker rooms, practice and competitive facilities; (g) medical and training facilities and services; (h) housing and dining facilities and services; (i) publicity and promotions; (j) support services and (k) recruitment of student-athletes.

If you had posted this in January you would be justified in stating that title IX cannot simply be waived. However, the NCAA has on the table the idea of allowing schools to cancel any and all non revenue sports. This is just so that the schools can survive. It is all about public opinion. Pre Corona Virus, the political wind was already starting to shift on college athletics. Now they are allowing star athletes to profit off of endorsements. Parents are not thrilled about higher tuition and seeing the funding of non revenue sports both mens and womens. It will vary school to school and sport to sport. But I would not be so sure to assume this cannot be waived.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you just making this up? It absolutely applies to athletics, compliance and punishment. It does rquire a one-to-one and there is no flexibility. And it does require a massive staff because that's how broad and far reaching the law is. This is just a portion of it relating to athletics.

Athletics programs are considered educational programs and activities. There are three basic parts of Title IX as it applies to athletics:

Participation: Title IX requires that women and men be provided equitable opportunities to participate in sports.
Title IX does not require institutions to offer identical sports but an equal opportunity to play;
Scholarships: Title IX requires that female and male student-athletes receive athletics scholarship dollars proportional to their participation; and
Other benefits:

Title IX requires the equal treatment of female and male student-athletes in the provisions of: (a) equipment and supplies; (b) scheduling of games and practice times; (c) travel and daily allowance/per diem; (d) access to tutoring; (e) coaching, (f) locker rooms, practice and competitive facilities; (g) medical and training facilities and services; (h) housing and dining facilities and services; (i) publicity and promotions; (j) support services and (k) recruitment of student-athletes.

If you had posted this in January you would be justified in stating that title IX cannot simply be waived. However, the NCAA has on the table the idea of allowing schools to cancel any and all non revenue sports. This is just so that the schools can survive. It is all about public opinion. Pre Corona Virus, the political wind was already starting to shift on college athletics. Now they are allowing star athletes to profit off of endorsements. Parents are not thrilled about higher tuition and seeing the funding of non revenue sports both mens and womens. It will vary school to school and sport to sport. But I would not be so sure to assume this cannot be waived.

NP who fully admits ignorance here. Title IX is federal law. How does the NCAA have the ability to waive federal law?

[Anonymous]

By providing the private sector the ability to pay for the revenue sports through sponsorships. Why did the just propose this rule change. This way no need for school funded scholarships. This would avoid conflicts with title IX. Schools only really need football and basketball and not at all schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:By providing the private sector the ability to pay for the revenue sports through sponsorships. Why did the just propose this rule change. This way no need for school funded scholarships. This would avoid conflicts with title IX. Schools only really need football and basketball and not at all schools.

Please stop. You don't avoid Title IX. Any school receiving any federal funds (meaning all) is subject to it.

Title IX applies to all educational institutions, both public and private, that receive federal funds. Almost all private colleges and universities must abide by Title IX regulations because they receive federal funding through federal financial aid programs used by their students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:By providing the private sector the ability to pay for the revenue sports through sponsorships. Why did the just propose this rule change. This way no need for school funded scholarships. This would avoid conflicts with title IX. Schools only really need football and basketball and not at all schools.

Please stop. You don't avoid Title IX. Any school receiving any federal funds (meaning all) is subject to it.

Title IX applies to all educational institutions, both public and private, that receive federal funds. Almost all private colleges and universities must abide by Title IX regulations because they receive federal funding through federal financial aid programs used by their students.

If athletes are paid by third parties college scholarships may not be needed. It would not be ignoring title IX it would be a legal workaround which would allow a school to cut expenses. This is what the schools want.
https://www.npr.org/2020/04/29/847781624/college-players-are-now-closer-to-getting-paid-after-ncaa-board-oks-plan

Why else would the NCAA push for this now?

[Anonymous]

There is a pending resolution out to NCAA schools - D1 and D3 - to cancel non-revenue sports in the event of institutional economic concerns, but they have to abide by Title IX. Voting closes end of June, with a decision some time in early July.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:By providing the private sector the ability to pay for the revenue sports through sponsorships. Why did the just propose this rule change. This way no need for school funded scholarships. This would avoid conflicts with title IX. Schools only really need football and basketball and not at all schools.

Please stop. You don't avoid Title IX. Any school receiving any federal funds (meaning all) is subject to it.

Title IX applies to all educational institutions, both public and private, that receive federal funds. Almost all private colleges and universities must abide by Title IX regulations because they receive federal funding through federal financial aid programs used by their students.

If athletes are paid by third parties college scholarships may not be needed. It would not be ignoring title IX it would be a legal workaround which would allow a school to cut expenses. This is what the schools want.
https://www.npr.org/2020/04/29/847781624/college-players-are-now-closer-to-getting-paid-after-ncaa-board-oks-plan

Why else would the NCAA push for this now?

They are pursuing it because the NCAA is losing all of the pre-court battles regarding control of images and likeness.

The paying of players is on top of the scholarships. This means a college player can go out and sell their autographs plus get a scholarship. The player won't have to forgo the scholarship.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is a pending resolution out to NCAA schools - D1 and D3 - to cancel non-revenue sports in the event of institutional economic concerns, but they have to abide by Title IX. Voting closes end of June, with a decision some time in early July.

Correct. Get rid of men's track and get rid of women's volleyball and so on until you are down to men's and women's basketball, men's football, women's soccer plus 3 other women's sports. That might be it if the stupidity continues. But good news for the women is their sports will be fully funded.

[Anonymous]

Well when it comes to lacrosse, there are big donor alums who want both men and women’s lacrosse to continue at schools like Duke, Hopkins, all the Ivys, Georgetown, Syracuse, Northwestern, and several big state schools like UVA, UNC, and UMD. Lacrosse is not going to disappear from college sports. Title XI is not going to be “waived.” The idiot writing that crap is just trying to get people on here upset. It’s ludicrous. Lacrosse has a long, entwined history with many of the best colleges and universities in this country and the alums who care about lacrosse are some of the wealthiest benefactors. It’s not going anywhere. Selling tickets and tv rights is not the only way for a sport to bring in money. This entire line of discussion is a joke, written by a clueless jerk.

[Anonymous]

Our club has a privatly owned field. We have been practicing when it's not a swamp, which clearly isn't that often. Only one kid hasn't been showing up.

Yes, our team would play a game and yes, we are ready for summer tournaments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our club has a privatly owned field. We have been practicing when it's not a swamp, which clearly isn't that often. Only one kid hasn't been showing up.

Yes, our team would play a game and yes, we are ready for summer tournaments.

That's great. How do we get in touch with the club? We will change teams and join the club.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our club has a privatly owned field. We have been practicing when it's not a swamp, which clearly isn't that often. Only one kid hasn't been showing up.

Yes, our team would play a game and yes, we are ready for summer tournaments.

That's great. How do we get in touch with the club? We will change teams and join the club.

Play for Cavalier lax or wait it out? Hmmm. I wait