Joe Biden denied communion

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Catholics believe that faith has a personal and a public dimension. Whatever Biden's interior state may be, he is objectively and publicly denying a fundamental tenet of the faith, and doing so as a public figure. Whether he and others in a similar position should be permitted to receive the Eucharist has been debated at length in canon law circles. The better argument clearly is that the priest actually has a duty to deny Biden the Eucharist because of the public nature of his dissent, his longstanding persistence in his positions despite numerous private and public admonitions, and his contumacious refusal voluntarily to refrain from coming forward at communion time. Biden's assertion that he privately holds beliefs different than his public positions but does not want to "impose" them on others is entirely specious. He regularly imposes his own beliefs via legislation on other subjects. His attempted dodge is nothing more than a "Nuremburg defense," and equally ineffectual.

Same thing with Gingrich, on his third wife. Why are they allowed communion when they're clearly in a state of sin?

[Anonymous]

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That's all fine from a Church legalese perspective. Doesn't change that it was un-christ like and hypocritical and inappropriate for the Priest to inject the Church into politics. But as long as some theologians worked out the legal pretzels, you can rest self-satisfied.

This is why the Church is losing members, you know.

Christ welcomed sinners but called them to repent. Biden is unrepentant and in a public forum. It was not the priest who politicized anything. Biden politicized his religious observance himself. As for the Church being "injected" into politics, once again it was Biden who knowingly approached the Eucharist while objectively indisposed to receive it.

As for losing members, parishes, dioceses and denominations that are faithful to tradition seem to be growing. Others, not so much. The Church is charged to announce the Gospel, not pander to those not interested in hearing it. The collapse of mainline Protestantism is an object lesson in the consequences of a religious observance driven by secular concerns.

Cool beans. Can we report sinners who are not repenting so that they can be denied communion? If a priest doesn't know that someone is fornicating how will he know not to give them the wafer?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre ( the founder of the SS0X) warned that Vatican 2 and the New Mass would give Catholics a Protestant mentality. Boy does this thread prove him right. Most “Catholics” on here agree with Luther and don’t even know it

Funny, you know what? The Catholic Church later agreed with Luther too on some things. Zounds!

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Anonymous wrote:The Pope is apparently as mired in sin as Joe Biden, because he also supports LGBTQ:
pope-francis-alter-catholic-doctrine-on-homosexuality-887839ea84bf


...the pope told him “God made you like that and he loves you like that and I do not care.”

So what's the difference? According to the article, it comes down to sexual activity. Has Joe Biden endorsed sodomy or other sexual acts outside of marriage? Please provide a link.

Exactly. You are born gay....I know some folks have a hard time with this because that also means that God made them that way. It messes up there fragile brains. I always find people who get upset over what goes on in someone else's bedroom generally have A LOT of skeletons in their own closet, esp. when they hide behind religion.

Good news is that people that think like this and act like an utter A%%holes are in the minority now.

That’s BS
http://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/number-50-fall-2016

What's BS....that you are born gay? Cause if you are denying that then you are not worth evening having a conversation with....you are less than the scum on the bottom of my shoe. I can't wait till you reach those pearly gates and get your denied sticker.

Lol. I just linked to a study where several doctors argue that there is no scientific evidence that people are born gay.( from Johns Hopkins) Read it and grow up
SSPX poster

Oh hon, are you repressed? Sure sounds like it, sugar lips.

[Anonymous]

Communion shouldn't have to be denied. Those not suitable to receive should use their own self-awareness to sit out. However most either refuse to see that they are making a mockery of the sacrament or maybe they just need the show of letting everyone see them in the communion line. Humans are not a very honest lot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Communion shouldn't have to be denied. Those not suitable to receive should use their own self-awareness to sit out. However most either refuse to see that they are making a mockery of the sacrament or maybe they just need the show of letting everyone see them in the communion line. Humans are not a very honest lot.

especially priests

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Anonymous wrote:The Pope is apparently as mired in sin as Joe Biden, because he also supports LGBTQ:
pope-francis-alter-catholic-doctrine-on-homosexuality-887839ea84bf


...the pope told him “God made you like that and he loves you like that and I do not care.”

So what's the difference? According to the article, it comes down to sexual activity. Has Joe Biden endorsed sodomy or other sexual acts outside of marriage? Please provide a link.

Exactly. You are born gay....I know some folks have a hard time with this because that also means that God made them that way. It messes up there fragile brains. I always find people who get upset over what goes on in someone else's bedroom generally have A LOT of skeletons in their own closet, esp. when they hide behind religion.

Good news is that people that think like this and act like an utter A%%holes are in the minority now.

That’s BS
http://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/number-50-fall-2016

What's BS....that you are born gay? Cause if you are denying that then you are not worth evening having a conversation with....you are less than the scum on the bottom of my shoe. I can't wait till you reach those pearly gates and get your denied sticker.

Lol. I just linked to a study where several doctors argue that there is no scientific evidence that people are born gay.( from Johns Hopkins) Read it and grow up
SSPX poster

SSPX denies the holocaust happened so I am not sure why anybody is even indulging you.

Utter BS. Archbishop Lefebvre( founder of SSPX) lost his father in a Nazi concentration camp

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Catholics believe that faith has a personal and a public dimension. Whatever Biden's interior state may be, he is objectively and publicly denying a fundamental tenet of the faith, and doing so as a public figure. Whether he and others in a similar position should be permitted to receive the Eucharist has been debated at length in canon law circles. The better argument clearly is that the priest actually has a duty to deny Biden the Eucharist because of the public nature of his dissent, his longstanding persistence in his positions despite numerous private and public admonitions, and his contumacious refusal voluntarily to refrain from coming forward at communion time. Biden's assertion that he privately holds beliefs different than his public positions but does not want to "impose" them on others is entirely specious. He regularly imposes his own beliefs via legislation on other subjects. His attempted dodge is nothing more than a "Nuremburg defense," and equally ineffectual.

Same thing with Gingrich, on his third wife. Why are they allowed communion when they're clearly in a state of sin?

Great question.

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Anonymous wrote:https://wdtprs.com/2019/10/communion-denied-to-pro-abortion-candidate-biden-good/

Finally a priest stands up to this pseudo-Catholic

Well, then nobody should get communion. Are you divorced? Practice birth control? Had sex before marriage? Lived with your spouse before marriage? If you have done all the above than you too should be denied.

So, if you molest children than you are allowed communion?

This is way I do not believe in religion.

I'm trying to think if I know ANY Catholics who should get communion. Very short list, if anyone at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Catholics believe that faith has a personal and a public dimension. Whatever Biden's interior state may be, he is objectively and publicly denying a fundamental tenet of the faith, and doing so as a public figure. Whether he and others in a similar position should be permitted to receive the Eucharist has been debated at length in canon law circles. The better argument clearly is that the priest actually has a duty to deny Biden the Eucharist because of the public nature of his dissent, his longstanding persistence in his positions despite numerous private and public admonitions, and his contumacious refusal voluntarily to refrain from coming forward at communion time. Biden's assertion that he privately holds beliefs different than his public positions but does not want to "impose" them on others is entirely specious. He regularly imposes his own beliefs via legislation on other subjects. His attempted dodge is nothing more than a "Nuremburg defense," and equally ineffectual.

But why is it just abortion? When's the last time a priest refused for say, war mongering?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Catholics believe that faith has a personal and a public dimension. Whatever Biden's interior state may be, he is objectively and publicly denying a fundamental tenet of the faith, and doing so as a public figure. Whether he and others in a similar position should be permitted to receive the Eucharist has been debated at length in canon law circles. The better argument clearly is that the priest actually has a duty to deny Biden the Eucharist because of the public nature of his dissent, his longstanding persistence in his positions despite numerous private and public admonitions, and his contumacious refusal voluntarily to refrain from coming forward at communion time. Biden's assertion that he privately holds beliefs different than his public positions but does not want to "impose" them on others is entirely specious. He regularly imposes his own beliefs via legislation on other subjects. His attempted dodge is nothing more than a "Nuremburg defense," and equally ineffectual.

But why is it just abortion? When's the last time a priest refused for say, war mongering?

Because a man who ALLOWS a woman make her own decisions like she's some sort of independent and sovereign individual is a gender-triter to the Cult of Men (by men only, and for men only).

[Anonymous]

*traitor

[Anonymous]

Sounds like the Catholic Church has their priorities straight...I mean, why focus on the thousands of sex abuse allegations and the related cover-ups that are still plaguing the Church when they can pull a stunt like this that will no doubt appeal to the next generation of Catholics and get them interested in the Church again.

[Anonymous]

The obsession with the sex abuse in the Church on here is hilarious.

Let’s focus on the rampant sex abuse in public schools and other organizations run by the state

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like the Catholic Church has their priorities straight...I mean, why focus on the thousands of sex abuse allegations and the related cover-ups that are still plaguing the Church when they can pull a stunt like this that will no doubt appeal to the next generation of Catholics and get them interested in the Church again.

+1000