Police are searching for two active shooters in Odessa, Texas

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And yet we have people posting here day in and day out arguing that guns are not the problem! Getting out of the car and shooting people. This is not normal, this is because of the guns, nothing to do with the 2nd amendment. I am so sick of this government! There needs to be immediate ban of all weapons and a confiscation of those already in possession.

Well, there are more guns than ever in the US and the violent crime rate is about half of what it used to be. Doesn't that make you happy?

No. No shootings are acceptable, no guns are acceptable. Thai is stupid excuse and you know it. Until there is a ban on carry, buying, possession, I will not be happy. I want a full ban like Australia did. This is like saying, "dad used to beat me every day but he now beats me only every other day, so now I have a good childhood!"

Why don't you just go and move to Australia? It's not going to happen in your lifetime, ok. There are like 300 million guns in circulation and very few people will willingly give them up.

Maybe you should try a different strategy? Why don't you join the police force and then you can take guns off of bad guys!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:jesus, a 17 month old baby was among today’s victims

https://www.newswest9.com/article/news/crime//513-17dbe2e0-4b2b-487e-91a8-281a4e6aa3b8

Holy, holy shit. No more guns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And yet we have people posting here day in and day out arguing that guns are not the problem! Getting out of the car and shooting people. This is not normal, this is because of the guns, nothing to do with the 2nd amendment. I am so sick of this government! There needs to be immediate ban of all weapons and a confiscation of those already in possession.

Well, there are more guns than ever in the US and the violent crime rate is about half of what it used to be. Doesn't that make you happy?

No. No shootings are acceptable, no guns are acceptable. Thai is stupid excuse and you know it. Until there is a ban on carry, buying, possession, I will not be happy. I want a full ban like Australia did. This is like saying, "dad used to beat me every day but he now beats me only every other day, so now I have a good childhood!"

Why don't you just go and move to Australia? It's not going to happen in your lifetime, ok. There are like 300 million guns in circulation and very few people will willingly give them up.

Maybe you should try a different strategy? Why don't you join the police force and then you can take guns off of bad guys!

And why don’t you move to some completely lawless, flailed state where you can revel in your ability to kill other humans? At some point you have to admit that this constant gun violence gives you a little reprieve from the sad boredom’ of your everyday life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: I agree with the PP that we need to take steps to reduce childhood trauma and neglect. We can see in our own city that when children raise children, they are unable to provide a safe nurturing environment for their children. These scared hurt children, who are laughed at if they show care and concern or interest in anything, grow up and become furious and full of rage, and the cycle continues. I also believe we need to do something about guns right now. It is not either or. We need to reduce childhood trauma and control guns.

Can you quote your source? Or is this just something you hope is true so you can co tiniest to cuddle with your guns?

[Anonymous]

What is it about this generation of 20-30 something year olds who don't choose a better way to express their rage?

Didn't they learn to work productively for the good of humankind?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:oh FFS - let’s argue about half or part of a face. Let’s all forget that a child was hit in the face with a bullet and had her teeth blown out. Yeah, no biggie /s

FYI, Children are killed every day of the year.

Yet ZERO outrage here about the massive ABUSE and NEGLECT of the children who often become RAGING adults.

Crickets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The 17 month old is recovering

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/amberjamieson/baby-shot-face-odessa-shooting

Thank gd

With half her face blown out. Her life is completely altered in one second

The child did not get half her face “blown out.” The mother texted the Gov with an update to her injuries.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/videos/us/2019/09/01/governor-greg-abbott-text-mom-victim-child-odessa-texas-midland-vpx.cnn

The mother asks for prayer for her child. Thank G-d this child is up playing and running around!

Um, lip, teeth and tongue damage is pretty significant damage to your face. I get that they are trying to be hopeful and all that, but it is NOT a pretty picture right now. It can be repaired, but she still will probably not be the same.

Are you actually wishing for permanent disfigurement so that your narrative will be supported?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And yet we have people posting here day in and day out arguing that guns are not the problem! Getting out of the car and shooting people. This is not normal, this is because of the guns, nothing to do with the 2nd amendment. I am so sick of this government! There needs to be immediate ban of all weapons and a confiscation of those already in possession.

Well, there are more guns than ever in the US and the violent crime rate is about half of what it used to be. Doesn't that make you happy?

No. No shootings are acceptable, no guns are acceptable. Thai is stupid excuse and you know it. Until there is a ban on carry, buying, possession, I will not be happy. I want a full ban like Australia did. This is like saying, "dad used to beat me every day but he now beats me only every other day, so now I have a good childhood!"

Why don't you just go and move to Australia? It's not going to happen in your lifetime, ok. There are like 300 million guns in circulation and very few people will willingly give them up.

Maybe you should try a different strategy? Why don't you join the police force and then you can take guns off of bad guys!

And why don’t you move to some completely lawless, flailed state where you can revel in your ability to kill other humans? At some point you have to admit that this constant gun violence gives you a little reprieve from the sad boredom’ of your everyday life.

PP lives in that place - it's the United States

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do we have a larger percentage of divorced families than every other nation on earth?

divorce is a red herring. one pp who doesn't want gun laws tossed it out as the causal element in order to be a troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s not about political points, it’s about babies not getting shot. I am so glad her injuries are not as bad as they could’ve been. And what is your point? Her eye sockets are OK so we should continue with no universal background checks and unfettered access to assault weapons?

So yes, you are trying to use babies being shot as a political tool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: I agree with the PP that we need to take steps to reduce childhood trauma and neglect. We can see in our own city that when children raise children, they are unable to provide a safe nurturing environment for their children. These scared hurt children, who are laughed at if they show care and concern or interest in anything, grow up and become furious and full of rage, and the cycle continues. I also believe we need to do something about guns right now. It is not either or. We need to reduce childhood trauma and control guns.

Can you quote your source? Or is this just something you hope is true so you can co tiniest to cuddle with your guns?

An elderly Ohio man is alive today because he held a thief at gunpoint in his home until the police arrived. A family in Oklahoma is alive today because a teenager had to kill a home invader to protect his mother and sister. A whole bunch of people are alive today because an elderly retired Marine with his own weapon was among the patrons when an armed robber came in. There are many many more instances like this but you seem to only want to count the dead, but not those that were saved. Any real conversation on gun control must look at both sides of the coin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do we have a larger percentage of divorced families than every other nation on earth?

Why do you keep bringing this up?

Because someone is going on about broken families and neglected children?

Do they have access to guns?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://hollywoodlife.com/feature/who-is-seth-ator-suspect-odessa-texas-deadly-shooting-spree/
Seth Ator: 5 Things To Know About Suspect In Odessa, TX Shooting That Killed 7 & Injured 22

1. Seth was a truck driver who had reportedly just been fired.

According to his Linkedin profile, he was a truck driver for a living, based out of Midland, TX. The New York Times reported that he had just been fired from his job a few hours before the shooting spree took place.

Let me bring this back to the shooter.
https://nypost.com/2019/09/01/texas-mass-shooter-threatened-neighbor-shot-animals-from-roof-report/
Texas mass shooter threatened neighbor, shot animals from roof: report

A neighbor of the Odessa, Texas, mass shooter says she reported him to police last month — after he threatened her with a rifle for leaving trash near his property — but cops couldn’t find his house on account of it having no GPS address or electricity.

[Anonymous]

"See something - Say something!"

Duh. Open your eyes, people.

Your neighbor IS your business!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
"See something - Say something!"

Duh. Open your eyes, people.

Your neighbor IS your business!

I sort of agree. In theory I do, but when you deal with reality, you deal with risk. This shooter, Ator, was a nut job. As a neighbor, I'd be concerned about his actions - especially if he's shooting at animals - but certainly he'd know if you were the one who turned him in. That's a scary thought.

It's not as though you ratted out some weird on the metro b/c you knew you'd never cross paths again. But this is your neighbor.

It's tricky.