How many freshman at Wilson this fall?

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DCPS Fail. Right?? Is it possible they knew this fiasco would occur?

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Anonymous wrote:I also heard 700 freshman today.....

What are the other class sizes? (Sophomores, Juniors, and Seniors?) Isnt that number going skyrocket in Fall 2021? I have always hear that 2007 was a huge bible of kids.

For the last few years its been 400-450. That's why the 700 number makes no sense. I still don't believe it.

Some data to add to the discussion.

In 2017-18 the Wilson feeders had a combined 631 students enrolled in 8th grade (Adams 66/Hardy 112/Deal 453) and in 2018 there were 478 9th graders at Wilson (so ~153 rising 8th graders chose some other option for 9th grade -- and yes there were probably new to DCPS students registering for 9th grade).

In 2018-19 the Wilson feeders had a combined 733 students enrolled in 8th grade (Adams 69/Hardy 139/Deal 525).

And this is just the tip of the iceburg. The classes hitting Deal and Hardy in a few years are doing to dwarf the ones currently there.

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Anonymous wrote:DCPS Fail. Right?? Is it possible they knew this fiasco would occur?

This is a feature, not a bug.

The Mayor and Paul Kihn want in-boundary Wilson students to flee to other options: private’s, charters, or magnets in the far flung parts of the District. They know poor kids from Wards 6-8 will continue to make the trek to Wilson regardless of over-crowding, so no need to worry about them - their families are grateful for a Wilson seat.

The over-crowding is a desired effect. This Mayor wants to break geography based by-right attendance. It will be her legacy.

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Anonymous wrote:I also heard 700 freshman today.....

What are the other class sizes? (Sophomores, Juniors, and Seniors?) Isnt that number going skyrocket in Fall 2021? I have always hear that 2007 was a huge bible of kids.

For the last few years its been 400-450. That's why the 700 number makes no sense. I still don't believe it.

Some data to add to the discussion.

In 2017-18 the Wilson feeders had a combined 631 students enrolled in 8th grade (Adams 66/Hardy 112/Deal 453) and in 2018 there were 478 9th graders at Wilson (so ~153 rising 8th graders chose some other option for 9th grade -- and yes there were probably new to DCPS students registering for 9th grade).

In 2018-19 the Wilson feeders had a combined 733 students enrolled in 8th grade (Adams 69/Hardy 139/Deal 525).

And this is just the tip of the iceburg. The classes hitting Deal and Hardy in a few years are doing to dwarf the ones currently there.

Maybe. Probably? Or the same rate of attrition from 8th to 9th may continue. Last year (18-19) fully 25% of students who could have gone to Wilson did not.

So before we get hysterical about this year's freshman class, perhaps we should wait to see the actual number. I recall people freaking out this time last year declaring that the 9th grade would have 600 kids ... and it did not materialize.

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Anonymous wrote:I also heard 700 freshman today.....

What are the other class sizes? (Sophomores, Juniors, and Seniors?) Isnt that number going skyrocket in Fall 2021? I have always hear that 2007 was a huge bible of kids.

For the last few years its been 400-450. That's why the 700 number makes no sense. I still don't believe it.

Some data to add to the discussion.

In 2017-18 the Wilson feeders had a combined 631 students enrolled in 8th grade (Adams 66/Hardy 112/Deal 453) and in 2018 there were 478 9th graders at Wilson (so ~153 rising 8th graders chose some other option for 9th grade -- and yes there were probably new to DCPS students registering for 9th grade).

In 2018-19 the Wilson feeders had a combined 733 students enrolled in 8th grade (Adams 69/Hardy 139/Deal 525).

And this is just the tip of the iceburg. The classes hitting Deal and Hardy in a few years are doing to dwarf the ones currently there.

Maybe. Probably? Or the same rate of attrition from 8th to 9th may continue. Last year (18-19) fully 25% of students who could have gone to Wilson did not.

So before we get hysterical about this year's freshman class, perhaps we should wait to see the actual number. I recall people freaking out this time last year declaring that the 9th grade would have 600 kids ... and it did not materialize.

Totally agree that their is a definite desire to drive the white, high SES kids out. We will see if they succeed. Really low peel off this year - anecdotally that is. This grades incoming Deal class is smaller then the last few so we will also see there.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow --- tennis court poster really WAS right about hypocrisy. Gross.

Huh?

Deal/Janney parents mocking the idea of dealing with Wilson overcrowding by something other than getting rid of the brown kids while simultaneously mocking suburban posters for not being "urban" (as if NWDC were urban) is hypocritical and gross, more so when it includes a slight racist dog whistle.

Pretty simple really.

Do you think every conversation is about race?

Sorry -- that's a side effect of knowing a lot about American history and political economy.

I am a Deal/Janney parent. I don't think they should cut out OOB kids. I think they should plan for the school size they have and provide the resources to teach all the kids they have well, maybe provide a well resrouced path for brining in more OOB at risk kids with academic promise that did not make it into the application schools. If "Honors for All" is working for 9th and 10th graders, give Wilson the resoruces to do that AND keep class sizes reasonable across all grades, including APs. It will serve more students well. Increasing the size and cutting the budget is what is causing chaos, not the number of 9th grade students. There are lots of examples of bigger schools providing a solid education.

Ditto...I'm a Murch/Deal parent. If you promised the kids they could go through - they should. Change it for those coming in but don't pull the rug. That said..redistrict for the future. And fund the school!!!!

This. Redistrict Janney and Murch to a new high school (with WMATA bus line of course) and keep the others in as well as OOB with at risk preference.

Really dumb suggestion given that Murch and Janney are the closest in proximity to Wilson.

Seriously. Redistrict Shepard, Bancroft first...followed by Lafayette. Oyster. Yikes.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow --- tennis court poster really WAS right about hypocrisy. Gross.

Huh?

Deal/Janney parents mocking the idea of dealing with Wilson overcrowding by something other than getting rid of the brown kids while simultaneously mocking suburban posters for not being "urban" (as if NWDC were urban) is hypocritical and gross, more so when it includes a slight racist dog whistle.

Pretty simple really.

Do you think every conversation is about race?

Sorry -- that's a side effect of knowing a lot about American history and political economy.

I am a Deal/Janney parent. I don't think they should cut out OOB kids. I think they should plan for the school size they have and provide the resources to teach all the kids they have well, maybe provide a well resrouced path for brining in more OOB at risk kids with academic promise that did not make it into the application schools. If "Honors for All" is working for 9th and 10th graders, give Wilson the resoruces to do that AND keep class sizes reasonable across all grades, including APs. It will serve more students well. Increasing the size and cutting the budget is what is causing chaos, not the number of 9th grade students. There are lots of examples of bigger schools providing a solid education.

Is it possible to do this (teach the current growing numbers and even consider adding more) in the physical space they have? Isn't the school out of room? Or not?

They recently increased the per-student sq footage requirement for Deal and Wilson. It isn’t overcrowded.

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Anonymous wrote:DCPS Fail. Right?? Is it possible they knew this fiasco would occur?

This is a feature, not a bug.

The Mayor and Paul Kihn want in-boundary Wilson students to flee to other options: private’s, charters, or magnets in the far flung parts of the District. They know poor kids from Wards 6-8 will continue to make the trek to Wilson regardless of over-crowding, so no need to worry about them - their families are grateful for a Wilson seat.

The over-crowding is a desired effect. This Mayor wants to break geography based by-right attendance. It will be her legacy.

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Anonymous wrote:DCPS Fail. Right?? Is it possible they knew this fiasco would occur?

This is a feature, not a bug.

The Mayor and Paul Kihn want in-boundary Wilson students to flee to other options: private’s, charters, or magnets in the far flung parts of the District. They know poor kids from Wards 6-8 will continue to make the trek to Wilson regardless of over-crowding, so no need to worry about them - their families are grateful for a Wilson seat.

The over-crowding is a desired effect. This Mayor wants to break geography based by-right attendance. It will be her legacy.

So basically the city has no plan. Has the mayor and the DCPS leadership just given up on the rest of the comprehensive high schools? They are fine with stuffing more and more kids into Wilson which frankly is only a decent school because it has a small cohort of highly competitive academic kids. It is sad how badly run the school is.

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Anonymous wrote:DCPS Fail. Right?? Is it possible they knew this fiasco would occur?

This is a feature, not a bug.

The Mayor and Paul Kihn want in-boundary Wilson students to flee to other options: private’s, charters, or magnets in the far flung parts of the District. They know poor kids from Wards 6-8 will continue to make the trek to Wilson regardless of over-crowding, so no need to worry about them - their families are grateful for a Wilson seat.

The over-crowding is a desired effect. This Mayor wants to break geography based by-right attendance. It will be her legacy.

So basically the city has no plan. Has the mayor and the DCPS leadership just given up on the rest of the comprehensive high schools? They are fine with stuffing more and more kids into Wilson which frankly is only a decent school because it has a small cohort of highly competitive academic kids. It is sad how badly run the school is.

1-Carrot strategy of offering desirable application and city-wide high schools (Bard, expanded Banneker, Early College at Coolidge, significantly rising test scores at McKinley)
2- Boundary review approaching

I really don't think the Mayor and the DME are giving up on comprehensive high schools as much as families of school-aged children are.

Only 25% of public school students city-wide attend their IB DCPS. Choice -- OOB, city-wide DCPS (application and non-application), charter -- is carrying the day and DCPS is offering more of those options to respond to parental demand.

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Anonymous wrote:DCPS Fail. Right?? Is it possible they knew this fiasco would occur?

This is a feature, not a bug.

The Mayor and Paul Kihn want in-boundary Wilson students to flee to other options: private’s, charters, or magnets in the far flung parts of the District. They know poor kids from Wards 6-8 will continue to make the trek to Wilson regardless of over-crowding, so no need to worry about them - their families are grateful for a Wilson seat.

The over-crowding is a desired effect. This Mayor wants to break geography based by-right attendance. It will be her legacy.

As a parent with children in-boundary for Wilson, I would rather see the availability of self-study and virtual classrooms, and have them show up in person after school for sports and art clubs. Heck, that should be available as an option at most high schools, and for us would be a much better option than getting up an hour early to be shipped off to some half-baked souffle across town.

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Anonymous wrote:DCPS Fail. Right?? Is it possible they knew this fiasco would occur?

This is a feature, not a bug.

The Mayor and Paul Kihn want in-boundary Wilson students to flee to other options: private’s, charters, or magnets in the far flung parts of the District. They know poor kids from Wards 6-8 will continue to make the trek to Wilson regardless of over-crowding, so no need to worry about them - their families are grateful for a Wilson seat.

The over-crowding is a desired effect. This Mayor wants to break geography based by-right attendance. It will be her legacy.

So basically the city has no plan. Has the mayor and the DCPS leadership just given up on the rest of the comprehensive high schools? They are fine with stuffing more and more kids into Wilson which frankly is only a decent school because it has a small cohort of highly competitive academic kids. It is sad how badly run the school is.

Why hasn't the school already been declared a fire hazard? My apologies for framing the question so harshly, but governments are supposed to be concerned about whether there's a risk.

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Anonymous wrote:DCPS Fail. Right?? Is it possible they knew this fiasco would occur?

This is a feature, not a bug.

The Mayor and Paul Kihn want in-boundary Wilson students to flee to other options: private’s, charters, or magnets in the far flung parts of the District. They know poor kids from Wards 6-8 will continue to make the trek to Wilson regardless of over-crowding, so no need to worry about them - their families are grateful for a Wilson seat.

The over-crowding is a desired effect. This Mayor wants to break geography based by-right attendance. It will be her legacy.

So basically the city has no plan. Has the mayor and the DCPS leadership just given up on the rest of the comprehensive high schools? They are fine with stuffing more and more kids into Wilson which frankly is only a decent school because it has a small cohort of highly competitive academic kids. It is sad how badly run the school is.

Why hasn't the school already been declared a fire hazard? My apologies for framing the question so harshly, but governments are supposed to be concerned about whether there's a risk.

Because occupancy size is a shifting definition.

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Anonymous wrote:Across the park, you have brand new modernized schools that are sitting half empty

Wells is already at capacity. Are people suggesting to transport Shepherd and Lafayette kids to Brookland? If so, might as well bus Janney kids and create more diversity across the city.

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Anonymous wrote:Across the park, you have brand new modernized schools that are sitting half empty

Wells is already at capacity. Are people suggesting to transport Shepherd and Lafayette kids to Brookland? If so, might as well bus Janney kids and create more diversity across the city.

Jeebs, just do a proper boundary review so that nobody must go by car/bus/bike more than 5 minutes to their local school, and everything's fine. Seriously, it's that simple (politics aside).