How many freshman at Wilson this fall?

[Anonymous]

I've heard that 700 figure from multiple sources. I believe it as I don't know anyone from Deal who isn't attending Wilson and I know a good number of kids in this cohort.

[Anonymous]

My kid (10th grader) came home from Wilson today and said he heard the 9th grade class was 700 kids. Apparently 100 kids showed up today to register and most were 9th graders. I have not verified this info though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow --- tennis court poster really WAS right about hypocrisy. Gross.

Huh?

Deal/Janney parents mocking the idea of dealing with Wilson overcrowding by something other than getting rid of the brown kids while simultaneously mocking suburban posters for not being "urban" (as if NWDC were urban) is hypocritical and gross, more so when it includes a slight racist dog whistle.

Pretty simple really.

Do you think every conversation is about race?

Sorry -- that's a side effect of knowing a lot about American history and political economy.

I am a Deal/Janney parent. I don't think they should cut out OOB kids. I think they should plan for the school size they have and provide the resources to teach all the kids they have well, maybe provide a well resrouced path for brining in more OOB at risk kids with academic promise that did not make it into the application schools. If "Honors for All" is working for 9th and 10th graders, give Wilson the resoruces to do that AND keep class sizes reasonable across all grades, including APs. It will serve more students well. Increasing the size and cutting the budget is what is causing chaos, not the number of 9th grade students. There are lots of examples of bigger schools providing a solid education.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow --- tennis court poster really WAS right about hypocrisy. Gross.

Huh?

Deal/Janney parents mocking the idea of dealing with Wilson overcrowding by something other than getting rid of the brown kids while simultaneously mocking suburban posters for not being "urban" (as if NWDC were urban) is hypocritical and gross, more so when it includes a slight racist dog whistle.

Pretty simple really.

Do you think every conversation is about race?

Sorry -- that's a side effect of knowing a lot about American history and political economy.

I am a Deal/Janney parent. I don't think they should cut out OOB kids. I think they should plan for the school size they have and provide the resources to teach all the kids they have well, maybe provide a well resrouced path for brining in more OOB at risk kids with academic promise that did not make it into the application schools. If "Honors for All" is working for 9th and 10th graders, give Wilson the resoruces to do that AND keep class sizes reasonable across all grades, including APs. It will serve more students well. Increasing the size and cutting the budget is what is causing chaos, not the number of 9th grade students. There are lots of examples of bigger schools providing a solid education.

Ditto...I'm a Murch/Deal parent. If you promised the kids they could go through - they should. Change it for those coming in but don't pull the rug. That said..redistrict for the future. And fund the school!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow --- tennis court poster really WAS right about hypocrisy. Gross.

Huh?

Deal/Janney parents mocking the idea of dealing with Wilson overcrowding by something other than getting rid of the brown kids while simultaneously mocking suburban posters for not being "urban" (as if NWDC were urban) is hypocritical and gross, more so when it includes a slight racist dog whistle.

Pretty simple really.

Do you think every conversation is about race?

Sorry -- that's a side effect of knowing a lot about American history and political economy.

I am a Deal/Janney parent. I don't think they should cut out OOB kids. I think they should plan for the school size they have and provide the resources to teach all the kids they have well, maybe provide a well resrouced path for brining in more OOB at risk kids with academic promise that did not make it into the application schools. If "Honors for All" is working for 9th and 10th graders, give Wilson the resoruces to do that AND keep class sizes reasonable across all grades, including APs. It will serve more students well. Increasing the size and cutting the budget is what is causing chaos, not the number of 9th grade students. There are lots of examples of bigger schools providing a solid education.

Is it possible to do this (teach the current growing numbers and even consider adding more) in the physical space they have? Isn't the school out of room? Or not?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow --- tennis court poster really WAS right about hypocrisy. Gross.

Huh?

Deal/Janney parents mocking the idea of dealing with Wilson overcrowding by something other than getting rid of the brown kids while simultaneously mocking suburban posters for not being "urban" (as if NWDC were urban) is hypocritical and gross, more so when it includes a slight racist dog whistle.

Pretty simple really.

Do you think every conversation is about race?

Sorry -- that's a side effect of knowing a lot about American history and political economy.

I am a Deal/Janney parent. I don't think they should cut out OOB kids. I think they should plan for the school size they have and provide the resources to teach all the kids they have well, maybe provide a well resrouced path for brining in more OOB at risk kids with academic promise that did not make it into the application schools. If "Honors for All" is working for 9th and 10th graders, give Wilson the resoruces to do that AND keep class sizes reasonable across all grades, including APs. It will serve more students well. Increasing the size and cutting the budget is what is causing chaos, not the number of 9th grade students. There are lots of examples of bigger schools providing a solid education.

Ditto...I'm a Murch/Deal parent. If you promised the kids they could go through - they should. Change it for those coming in but don't pull the rug. That said..redistrict for the future. And fund the school!!!!

This. Redistrict Janney and Murch to a new high school (with WMATA bus line of course) and keep the others in as well as OOB with at risk preference.

[Anonymous]

I think that DCPS should offer free transportation to a less crowded option for any kid zoned to Wilson, whose parents feel that Wilson is the "crisis" that needs to be fixed in DCPS. Seems as though parents would be flocking to that option.

Except that DCPS already does offer this, through the OOB process, and Wilson parents don't take the opportunity. Why not? Because there is no "crisis" and Wilson's students are some of the best served in the city.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think that DCPS should offer free transportation to a less crowded option for any kid zoned to Wilson, whose parents feel that Wilson is the "crisis" that needs to be fixed in DCPS. Seems as though parents would be flocking to that option.

Except that DCPS already does offer this, through the OOB process, and Wilson parents don't take the opportunity. Why not? Because there is no "crisis" and Wilson's students are some of the best served in the city.

DCPS offers free transportation (via Metro) for all students already.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think that DCPS should offer free transportation to a less crowded option for any kid zoned to Wilson, whose parents feel that Wilson is the "crisis" that needs to be fixed in DCPS. Seems as though parents would be flocking to that option.

Except that DCPS already does offer this, through the OOB process, and Wilson parents don't take the opportunity. Why not? Because there is no "crisis" and Wilson's students are some of the best served in the city.

DCPS offers free transportation (via Metro) for all students already.

Which is why I said that DC alreadybdoes offer it?

My point is that any parent who thinks Wilson’s enrollment is the biggest “crisis” DCPS faces and worthy of resources is a hypocrite if they don’t take advantage of the free transportation to underenrolled options.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think that DCPS should offer free transportation to a less crowded option for any kid zoned to Wilson, whose parents feel that Wilson is the "crisis" that needs to be fixed in DCPS. Seems as though parents would be flocking to that option.

Except that DCPS already does offer this, through the OOB process, and Wilson parents don't take the opportunity. Why not? Because there is no "crisis" and Wilson's students are some of the best served in the city.

DCPS offers free transportation (via Metro) for all students already.

Which is why I said that DC alreadybdoes offer it?

My point is that any parent who thinks Wilson’s enrollment is the biggest “crisis” DCPS faces and worthy of resources is a hypocrite if they don’t take advantage of the free transportation to underenrolled options.

Because the kids who are left behind at under enrolled schools lose critical resources due to low head count. Because adding a daily two hour commute to a students life is two hours less they could be studying, working or volunteering. Because shuttling thousands of kids across the city is bad for the environment. Because continuing to expand Deal and Wilson is fiscally irresponsible when the city has 20,000 excess seats elsewhere in the city.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think that DCPS should offer free transportation to a less crowded option for any kid zoned to Wilson, whose parents feel that Wilson is the "crisis" that needs to be fixed in DCPS. Seems as though parents would be flocking to that option.

Except that DCPS already does offer this, through the OOB process, and Wilson parents don't take the opportunity. Why not? Because there is no "crisis" and Wilson's students are some of the best served in the city.

DCPS offers free transportation (via Metro) for all students already.

Which is why I said that DC alreadybdoes offer it?

My point is that any parent who thinks Wilson’s enrollment is the biggest “crisis” DCPS faces and worthy of resources is a hypocrite if they don’t take advantage of the free transportation to underenrolled options.

Because the kids who are left behind at under enrolled schools lose critical resources due to low head count. Because adding a daily two hour commute to a students life is two hours less they could be studying, working or volunteering. Because shuttling thousands of kids across the city is bad for the environment. Because continuing to expand Deal and Wilson is fiscally irresponsible when the city has 20,000 excess seats elsewhere in the city.

Here is the problem. It is not just about available seats, it is about the available seats, the quality of the programming and teachers AND ALSO the preparedness of the student cohort. Wilson has the cohort that no other non application DCPS high school in the city has. That is why parents want to send their kids there. That is the piece that cannot be replicated by construction or teacher hiring. That is the resource that needs to be shared in a single school. The problem is no one in a position to make decisions can say that.

[Anonymous]

Folks saying to just keep expanding Wilson don’t seem to realize that the building is way over capacity. Some of the class sizes are already 38-40 and there is no room to add teachers and classrooms. Athletic fields are inadequate. Wilson was not built for so many kids. Perhaps instead of the community pool, they should have just made Wilson bigger but now there is no more room left.

[Anonymous]

Across the park, you have brand new modernized schools that are sitting half empty

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow --- tennis court poster really WAS right about hypocrisy. Gross.

Huh?

Deal/Janney parents mocking the idea of dealing with Wilson overcrowding by something other than getting rid of the brown kids while simultaneously mocking suburban posters for not being "urban" (as if NWDC were urban) is hypocritical and gross, more so when it includes a slight racist dog whistle.

Pretty simple really.

Do you think every conversation is about race?

Sorry -- that's a side effect of knowing a lot about American history and political economy.

I am a Deal/Janney parent. I don't think they should cut out OOB kids. I think they should plan for the school size they have and provide the resources to teach all the kids they have well, maybe provide a well resrouced path for brining in more OOB at risk kids with academic promise that did not make it into the application schools. If "Honors for All" is working for 9th and 10th graders, give Wilson the resoruces to do that AND keep class sizes reasonable across all grades, including APs. It will serve more students well. Increasing the size and cutting the budget is what is causing chaos, not the number of 9th grade students. There are lots of examples of bigger schools providing a solid education.

Ditto...I'm a Murch/Deal parent. If you promised the kids they could go through - they should. Change it for those coming in but don't pull the rug. That said..redistrict for the future. And fund the school!!!!

This. Redistrict Janney and Murch to a new high school (with WMATA bus line of course) and keep the others in as well as OOB with at risk preference.

Really dumb suggestion given that Murch and Janney are the closest in proximity to Wilson.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I also heard 700 freshman today.....

What are the other class sizes? (Sophomores, Juniors, and Seniors?) Isnt that number going skyrocket in Fall 2021? I have always hear that 2007 was a huge bible of kids.

For the last few years its been 400-450. That's why the 700 number makes no sense. I still don't believe it.

Some data to add to the discussion.

In 2017-18 the Wilson feeders had a combined 631 students enrolled in 8th grade (Adams 66/Hardy 112/Deal 453) and in 2018 there were 478 9th graders at Wilson (so ~153 rising 8th graders chose some other option for 9th grade -- and yes there were probably new to DCPS students registering for 9th grade).

In 2018-19 the Wilson feeders had a combined 733 students enrolled in 8th grade (Adams 69/Hardy 139/Deal 525).