Not gifted, but wants to learn

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Anonymous wrote:Pp, you would be better off spending time prepping your younger child to do well on the 3rd grade cogat so you don’t need to spend money on a wisc. Especially if your child will probably get an unhelpful sub-130 wisc.

You may be right, and I will probably request a CogAt retake. I'm not sure I'll prep--my kid was diagnosed with ADHD late in 2nd grade and is now doing a lot better with medication. I suspect that alone will make a big difference.

Buy the workbook someone posted upthread. It can't hurt.

[Anonymous]

The workbook has one page of explanation for each section, a page of the problems written out in words, and an example of the problem in picture form. Then there are two practice exams. It is not that challenging. When my son made mistakes it was because he was going to fast.

[Anonymous]

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Except that the teachers will do practice tests with the kids so they are not going in blind. Are all of those kids prepped?

Which teachers are doing full practice tests with the kids? My kids were only shown by the teacher a couple really trivial practice questions put out by the CogAT and intended for that purpose. That's hardly the same as having a teacher run through full comprehensive practice tests.

I would argue that anyone looking at any CogAT materials other than the official ones included with the CogAT and intended as pre-testing materials is prepping and is invalidating the CogAT score. At this point, though, so many kids are prepping that it seems foolish for anyone who wants their kids in AAP to refrain from prepping.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Except that the teachers will do practice tests with the kids so they are not going in blind. Are all of those kids prepped?

Which teachers are doing full practice tests with the kids? My kids were only shown by the teacher a couple really trivial practice questions put out by the CogAT and intended for that purpose. That's hardly the same as having a teacher run through full comprehensive practice tests.

I would argue that anyone looking at any CogAT materials other than the official ones included with the CogAT and intended as pre-testing materials is prepping and is invalidating the CogAT score. At this point, though, so many kids are prepping that it seems foolish for anyone who wants their kids in AAP to refrain from prepping.

I don't think this is true except in some pockets of FCPS. I know for a fact my two AAP kids weren't prepped. And given that only a handful of kids from their school go to AAP I can't imagine many others were either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Except that the teachers will do practice tests with the kids so they are not going in blind. Are all of those kids prepped?

Which teachers are doing full practice tests with the kids? My kids were only shown by the teacher a couple really trivial practice questions put out by the CogAT and intended for that purpose. That's hardly the same as having a teacher run through full comprehensive practice tests.

I would argue that anyone looking at any CogAT materials other than the official ones included with the CogAT and intended as pre-testing materials is prepping and is invalidating the CogAT score. At this point, though, so many kids are prepping that it seems foolish for anyone who wants their kids in AAP to refrain from prepping.

I don't think this is true except in some pockets of FCPS. I know for a fact my two AAP kids weren't prepped. And given that only a handful of kids from their school go to AAP I can't imagine many others were either.

DP. This is our experience too, and my AAP kids weren't prepped at all (beyond the one or two practice questions that the teacher used). Since these experiences differ so much in different parts of the county, I do wonder how much the centers differ. I've been happy with my kids' school experience, don't feel that it's watered down or too slow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The workbook has one page of explanation for each section, a page of the problems written out in words, and an example of the problem in picture form. Then there are two practice exams. It is not that challenging. When my son made mistakes it was because he was going to fast.

Can anyone recommend a prep/ practice book for kids who are taking the 3rd grade CogAt?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The workbook has one page of explanation for each section, a page of the problems written out in words, and an example of the problem in picture form. Then there are two practice exams. It is not that challenging. When my son made mistakes it was because he was going to fast.

Can anyone recommend a prep/ practice book for kids who are taking the 3rd grade CogAt?

Amazon has them

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I suggest ordering a practice Cogat test on amazon to just get familiar with test. Sounds like your child is borderline.

I have 2 kids in AAP. Both scored high on Cogat and thriving In AAP. I’m sure I will get blasted for prepping or cheating. I think preparing your child for a test is the responsible thing to do, especially if he is borderline. Other parents do it as well although not all would admit it.

We have 2 friends whose kids scored 120ish and not in AAP. They are bright hard workers. I couldn’t help wonder why they didn’t get a damn book beforehand. It would have taken a weekend to go over the book.

Unfathomable? Really?

And, this is why AAP is not a gifted program. The Cogat was intended to test kids with unfamiliar material. It is not supposed to be an achievement test. And, this is why they need to get rid of AAP.

Former teacher