"Adult Swim" is a Violation of the Federal Fair Housing Act- discriminates against families???

[Anonymous]

Our lifeguards also use that time to test pool chemical levels.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm so glad about it. It's about time.
You don't decide whether my kid is tired or not. I decide that. Do I get 25% discount on my kids since pool is not available to them 15 minutes in an hour?
If lifeguards need a break, then all need to come out of the water. Nobody should decide who gets to be in it and how long based on gender, age,race or what have you.
If you decide that my kid needs a break, maybe your grandma needs a break and you. The sun can make anybody need a break.
If my kid needs to use a bathroom, maybe your grandma should use a bathroom and change her swim-diaper.
We don't decide who takes a break and who doesn't based somebody's age. Same goes for swimming ability-you don't decide that my 8-year old who can swim, can't swim but your grandma who never learned to swim can, or she woudln't be in the pool. Grandma can't swim but nobody would suspect her because why is grandma at the pool. So, while you are too busy getting the kids out who have guardians more likely than not, you don't see grandma drowning because grandma adult and you expect grandma to know better. Grandma lost her top long ago and wondered to the pool.
Even when experience tells you that kids need saving more often than grandmas, you don't decide to keep them out at some point. And if you do, the same break applies to all. What's the big deal if breaks are so important?
They are not important. They are there to give grown-ups the time and many have come to love that time. Even if you love that time and have convinced yourself that this is the best for the kids, it's against FHA.
You don't want kids at your pool, you go to grown-ups only pool. You want kids out, you also take the grown-ups out for the same amount. Problem solved and all happy. Don't argue with the law. Go change it if you don't like it, but don't act like it isn't there. In fact, it's time to apply it.
You want grown-up only time, match it with children only time. All happy, all get a break at some point. except grown-ups don't want the break. Well, neither do kids.

Actually, yes you do!

At every pool I e ever been to a kids membership is substantially less expensive than adults. You’re getting a better deal than you think because you get upwards of 50% discount compared to an adult membership!!!! Think of the value!

Exactly! For the price of her membership, she has to sacrifice 15 minutes per hour, while the other people, to get the swim experience they want, have to sacrifice 45 minutes. Meaning they get a 3 fold discount for their entitlement!

[Anonymous]

Even if the kids pay less, it doesn't mean "adult swim" is not against FHA at HOA pools. So, how far is the case now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Even if the kids pay less, it doesn't mean "adult swim" is not against FHA at HOA pools. So, how far is the case now?

I think the ruling was against the HOA and as a result we're seeing these changes across the board.

My opinion: the HOA needed a better attorney for this and has established a ridiculous precedence for this country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even if the kids pay less, it doesn't mean "adult swim" is not against FHA at HOA pools. So, how far is the case now?

I think the ruling was against the HOA and as a result we're seeing these changes across the board.

My opinion: the HOA needed a better attorney for this and has established a ridiculous precedence for this country.

No, people are completely making things up. There was no lawsuit in OP's post, it was just a news story about this:

"The Homeowner’s Association cleared up the confusion Tuesday afternoon in an email to residents of Quince Orchard Park. It explains that one man who lives in the neighborhood is an attorney and pointed out that Adult Swim is discriminatory. So, they’ve changed the rules."

The kind of "adult swim" that was litigated in one community in a different jurisdiction was a restriction of whole parts of the day when families could not go to the pool at all. This neighborhood attorney has pulled a fast one on Quince Orchard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bizarre. Most families love adult swim because its far more efficient to get all the kids with you out of the pool for adult swim to eat or leave. Without adult swim, it would take 30 minutes to round everyone up.

This. I remember when we finally got into our private club which had a separate lap pool for adults so no adult swim. I had to be much more forceful about rounding up the kids when it was time to leave. Adult swim was a great excuse to get the kids out.

I have also heard it refer to a safety break at other places which is probably more accurate for all the reasons mentioned above.

[Anonymous]

This is somehow bleeding into other HOAs because mine has instituted a ridiculous “calm time” period that is the last 15 minutes of the hour. Nobody has to get out. You just have to be “calm.”This is completely arbitrary based on who is guarding. One guard told a kid he couldn’t have an inner tube during calm time, but the next hour kids were slapping pool noodles and nobody cared. It’s ridiculous and pointless! Honestly that 10 minute everybody out was nice. Kids would use the bathroom, reapply sunscreen, eat. now it’s just a weird timeless free for all.

[Anonymous]

Unless the plaintiffs live in a swimming pool, it can't be a violation of the Fair Housing Act. Or it shouldn't be. Congress was hardly thinking of swim clubs when it passed the law.

Another stupid, frivolous lawsuit that gives the legal profession a bad name.

[Anonymous]

This attorney should get a nice long "adult swim" at the bottom of the deep end of the pool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even if the kids pay less, it doesn't mean "adult swim" is not against FHA at HOA pools. So, how far is the case now?

I think the ruling was against the HOA and as a result we're seeing these changes across the board.

My opinion: the HOA needed a better attorney for this and has established a ridiculous precedence for this country.

No, people are completely making things up. There was no lawsuit in OP's post, it was just a news story about this:

"The Homeowner’s Association cleared up the confusion Tuesday afternoon in an email to residents of Quince Orchard Park. It explains that one man who lives in the neighborhood is an attorney and pointed out that Adult Swim is discriminatory. So, they’ve changed the rules."

The kind of "adult swim" that was litigated in one community in a different jurisdiction was a restriction of whole parts of the day when families could not go to the pool at all. This neighborhood attorney has pulled a fast one on Quince Orchard.

So, it was Quince Orchard's call in the end. Why don't you all upset with the change find somewhere else to swim or open you own and have 50 minutes of adult swim. I'm sure QO has their own attorney and they'd rather not get in trouble with the law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even if the kids pay less, it doesn't mean "adult swim" is not against FHA at HOA pools. So, how far is the case now?

I think the ruling was against the HOA and as a result we're seeing these changes across the board.

My opinion: the HOA needed a better attorney for this and has established a ridiculous precedence for this country.

No, people are completely making things up. There was no lawsuit in OP's post, it was just a news story about this:

"The Homeowner’s Association cleared up the confusion Tuesday afternoon in an email to residents of Quince Orchard Park. It explains that one man who lives in the neighborhood is an attorney and pointed out that Adult Swim is discriminatory. So, they’ve changed the rules."

The kind of "adult swim" that was litigated in one community in a different jurisdiction was a restriction of whole parts of the day when families could not go to the pool at all. This neighborhood attorney has pulled a fast one on Quince Orchard.

So, it was Quince Orchard's call in the end. Why don't you all upset with the change find somewhere else to swim or open you own and have 50 minutes of adult swim. I'm sure QO has their own attorney and they'd rather not get in trouble with the law.

You kidding? Most of this thread can't even handle that one thing in their sad little worlds does not go all out catering to children for 15 min/hour. It's never enough. They'd riot in the streets over what you suggested.

[Anonymous]

They need to just call adult swim time:

“Lap time.” Pool is only open to a range of amateur to serious lap swimmers (meaning no one, adults or children, just playing in the lanes).

Voila.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My HOA pool still has the rule, how one goes about changing it legally?

Send your HOA a certified letter pointing out Fair Housing ACT. If they are not responsive, file a claim with HUD on their website.

You people suck. This is a ridiculous over legalization of something that works very well for the vast majority and is of virtually no penalty to those that do not like it. Our HOA changed to this last year and everyone hates that they got rid of the break.

[Anonymous]

“Lap time.” Pool is only open to a range of amateur to serious lap swimmers (meaning no one, adults or children, just playing in the lanes). “

Our pool did this for one season. Then people who cannot do laps but just want to relax in the pool complained. Now you can do laps or walk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They need to just call adult swim time:

“Lap time.” Pool is only open to a range of amateur to serious lap swimmers (meaning no one, adults or children, just playing in the lanes).

Voila.

How does this solve the problem of getting children out of the pool so that the lifeguards can take a break or rotate or get down and check the PH? If anything you're going to now need to be more vigilant, because you're forcing people to go into the deep end.

Also, realistically, how do you put lap lanes up and down every hour?

Also, what about adults who want to relax in the water without being splashed or surrounded by yelling kids?

I'm entirely unclear what problem you think this is solving.