I lived in DC for 25 years, I have family buried at Mt. Olivet, so I visit only to take my mom there now. But welcome to our city. No, the "vast" majority work in the in burbs. The large percentage... still not the majority of people that have little to no experience ... young people, will go to the city to get a job.. get experience then get the f out. |
There has been a recent influx of suburban tumbleweeds like PP who visit this site because they live in "DC" (Rockville). Large overlap with the conservatives on here who moan being oppressed on a privately-run internet message board. |
PP is pulling stuff out of his nether region. From posts, it's evident that tons of people on this site work in DC, and only Jeff has data on the composition of posters. But why waste time on someone who traffics in idiotic stereotypes of city dwellers. |
Many but not most.... not by a long shot. |
Yup. There are statistics on this. This is an old article but I'd be shocked if the trend has reversed in six years: https://wamu.org/story/13/05/31/dcs_population_grows_79_percent_every_workday_outpacing_other_cities/ |
The unearned "our city" arrogance is only funnier when it's coming from someone who no longer lives here. You couldn't afford to raise a family here and moved to the burbs. Tale as old as time. Sorry bud. |
The bureau of labor statistics will give you the number of jobs in DC. Yes, your article shows tons of people commute to the city but not more than stay out of the city. You do know the 79% number is not the number the percentage of workers that work in DC ... correct. It's just how many would rather slit their wrist than live in DC and prefer a commute to DC to living there. You can then look at the census bureau for number of people in MD/VA/WV. Do the math yourself. It's clear that most people don't work in DC. You can look at baby births by year and predict the increase in DC by how many young people think city life would be cool until they realize it's not. |
I would not be so sure. In Holland the cycling infrastructure is great, and as a consequence one-quarter of the Dutch population cycles every single day. And 87 percent of the population own a bike. |
I am a man. But I would say around one-third of the cyclists in my building are women. We have showers at work to take care of hair etc. As for childcare, my daughter walks to school now, but when she was younger I was in charge of that as the daycare was in my building. I cycled with her in a child seat on the back of my bike. |
That argument makes no sense at all. Just because you build a road doesn't necessarily mean development and cars will follow, especially if you have a strict land use policy which MoCo has. You can't build mega suburbia development because of the Agricultural Reserve. So you couldn't just connect Route 28 in NoVa (which is a limited access highway now) to the ICC/MD200 which is also a limited access highway? If you are concerned about traffic on the rural roads limit the number of exits or dont build any. It is simple as that. |
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Suburbanites fall into 3 categories, in terms of commute (I am over simplifying but think this will still add some clarity)
1. Some commute into DC (or, almost the same from far suburns into DC adjacent places like Crystal City) 2. Some have short suburb to suburb commutes - Germantown to Gaithersburg, or Oakton to Tysons, for example. 3. Some have pretty long suburb to suburb commutes - Gaithersburg to Reston, Largo to Tysons, Stafford to Alexandria. Even if most suburbanites are not doing 1 (varies) it does not mean most are doing 2. A lot are doing three, and THOSE are the people creating backups on the beltway, for the most part. They are also people who very hard to accommodate with any mode other than the auto (with exceptions where commuter rail works) The average commute time in FFX, Loudoun and I think MoCo is about 30 minutes. Thats not a 5 mile drive. And the average commute times from the suburbs south and southeast of DC are longer. |
What is up with the suburban obsession with class and old vs new money? |
You are the poster child for poor mental health. How many times have you crapped on people on DCUM in the last 24 hours? Feel any better? Didn’t think so. Go see a therapist instead of spewing the byproduct of your self-hatred here on others. |
Oh yes, Rockville is teaming with conservatives. Notable Tea Party representative Jamie Raskin ably represents such die hard right wingers. |
The bus I use occasionally is not very full, even in rush. Increased frequency would help some, but I believe far less than you think. Even if you triple the current capacity, going from every 30 to every 10 minutes, people's commute times would increase significantly, more so for people not going directly home or those returning post rush when frequency would presumably be reduced. We hear right and left on this board how an extra 20-30 minute commute is a killer, but in this context people assume folks would be willing to add that time to take the bus. Not that many would. And if someone was proposing you increase your commute by that length for the greater good, I doubt you would be too keen either. |