If God had an issue with homosexuality, where is divine intervention?

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Anonymous wrote:If God thinks homosexual sex is a sin, why did he create people who are born gay?

Why did God create Satan if he knew what Satan was going to do? This is the $60K question, imo. It all stems from this one question.

There is actually some debate about whether there is a “Satan,” that is, a being of pure evil that exists to torment humans and bring their downfall. There are some Bible verses, like in the book of Job, where it seems that Satan is there more to test people than be actively evil.

There are NT bible passages about casting out demons, as in evil spirits, as in the followers of Satan. Even Jesus casted out demons.

Regardless, the question remains.. "why did God create Satan if he knew that Satan was going to fall"? If this question can be answered, I think so too will a multitude of other questions.

Why did God create people with hot tempers, greed, lust, etc... ?

My understanding is that anything God created with consciousness had to have free will- i.e. the ability to make choices, else they would be robots.

Could a conflict free universe have been created? Perhaps. It's not really something I worry about.

I don't worry about it either. I'm just trying to address the thread.

Why did God create people to be gay if He has an issue with it? Why did God create some people to have hot tempers, be greedy and selfish... etc. Yes, we are all born with innate sinful desires, and we have freewill to succumb to it.

Well I’m not sure how much of one’s temperament is nature versus nurture but the way I think of it is that all of us have weaknesses but with those weaknesses often comes a corresponding strength. Hot-tempered, highly emotional people are often loving and show passion for what they care about in a way that cool tempered people oftentimes cannot. Competitive people can become greedy, yes, but often they are competitive with themselves and have great accomplishments in science and the arts.

Many of the world’s greatest artists are homosexuals. Is this related to their sexuality? Does their brain work in a different way? I don’t know. But God loves them and created them for a purpose, and we all come with a choice: we can grow in love and compassion and become the best that we can be, or we can fall into the worst versions of ourselves. Growing as a person, changing and learning, is one of the greatest parts of the human experience. I guess we could be born perfect, knowing everything, but then we would not be humans. We would be something else.

And as far as the question of why God would create people with a sexual attraction that they cannot fulfill... Christianity is pretty strict on limiting sexual fulfillment for everyone. As Christians you are only supposed to have sexual relations with a person of the opposite sex whom you marry and cannot divorce unless the person dies or goes off the rails. Does this sound like a recipe for sexual fulfillment to you? If you go on the relationship forum how many long married couples seem sexually satisfied to you? Sexual fulfillment is not a Christian concept, it’s a modern secular concept that does not mesh with Christianity at all. Yeah, it’s not awesome to our modern ideas but that’s what it is.

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Anonymous wrote:If God thinks homosexual sex is a sin, why did he create people who are born gay?

Why did God create Satan if he knew what Satan was going to do? This is the $60K question, imo. It all stems from this one question.

There is actually some debate about whether there is a “Satan,” that is, a being of pure evil that exists to torment humans and bring their downfall. There are some Bible verses, like in the book of Job, where it seems that Satan is there more to test people than be actively evil.

There are NT bible passages about casting out demons, as in evil spirits, as in the followers of Satan. Even Jesus casted out demons.

Regardless, the question remains.. "why did God create Satan if he knew that Satan was going to fall"? If this question can be answered, I think so too will a multitude of other questions.

Why did God create people with hot tempers, greed, lust, etc... ?

My understanding is that anything God created with consciousness had to have free will- i.e. the ability to make choices, else they would be robots.

Could a conflict free universe have been created? Perhaps. It's not really something I worry about.

I don't worry about it either. I'm just trying to address the thread.

Why did God create people to be gay if He has an issue with it? Why did God create some people to have hot tempers, be greedy and selfish... etc. Yes, we are all born with innate sinful desires, and we have freewill to succumb to it.

Well I’m not sure how much of one’s temperament is nature versus nurture but the way I think of it is that all of us have weaknesses but with those weaknesses often comes a corresponding strength. Hot-tempered, highly emotional people are often loving and show passion for what they care about in a way that cool tempered people oftentimes cannot. Competitive people can become greedy, yes, but often they are competitive with themselves and have great accomplishments in science and the arts.

Many of the world’s greatest artists are homosexuals. Is this related to their sexuality? Does their brain work in a different way? I don’t know. But God loves them and created them for a purpose, and we all come with a choice: we can grow in love and compassion and become the best that we can be, or we can fall into the worst versions of ourselves. Growing as a person, changing and learning, is one of the greatest parts of the human experience. I guess we could be born perfect, knowing everything, but then we would not be humans. We would be something else.

And as far as the question of why God would create people with a sexual attraction that they cannot fulfill... Christianity is pretty strict on limiting sexual fulfillment for everyone. As Christians you are only supposed to have sexual relations with a person of the opposite sex whom you marry and cannot divorce unless the person dies or goes off the rails. Does this sound like a recipe for sexual fulfillment to you? If you go on the relationship forum how many long married couples seem sexually satisfied to you? Sexual fulfillment is not a Christian concept, it’s a modern secular concept that does not mesh with Christianity at all. Yeah, it’s not awesome to our modern ideas but that’s what it is.

This made me laugh so hard.

Ever read about ancient Rome? They definitely had a LOT of sexual fulfillment well outside the confines of marriage or reproduction. So actually sexual fulfillment is a pre-Christian concept that Christianity decided to vilify.

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This made me laugh so hard.

Ever read about ancient Rome? They definitely had a LOT of sexual fulfillment well outside the confines of marriage or reproduction. So actually sexual fulfillment is a pre-Christian concept that Christianity decided to vilify.

How so? How is the Roman concept of sexuality similar to the modern ideal of finding a partner who fills all your physical and emotional needs? Posters are arguing that Paul never saw a monogamous homosexual relationship and therefore could not have anticipated such a thing existed. Which is it?