It's now easier to perform an abortion in the state of New York than to legally apply a tattoo.

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Anonymous wrote:Have you heard of pre-eclampsia? Pre-eclampsia and other hypertensive disorders of pregnancy account for 6.8% of maternal pregnancy-related deaths. The primary treatment if it is rapidly progressing to fatal crisis is delivery of the fetus, even if it has not reached viability.

But maybe it doesn't exist, if you haven't heard of it. That would be news to the CDC and a major relief to a heck of a lot of women.

Np. Yes, and in those cases the answer was delivery.

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Anonymous wrote:If OP is so concerned about full term abortions, then OP really really needs to focus on WV, MS and AK -- states that allow for full term abortions regardless of the mother's health. NY only allows for it when the mother's health is in danger.

NY used to allow for it when the mother's life was at risk. Now it is simply when her health is endangered.

I wonder how often a woman's mental health will be what is said to be endangered going forward. My mental health is endangered when my kids leave their crap all over the house or an asshole cuts me off in traffic.

People like you are fomenting a problem where it doesn't exist.

Women don't get late-term abortions willy-nilly. They are heartbreaking events for the women who seek them out for very painful reasons, and FU for making light of them.

Most women don’t. Don’t tell me you know what happens in every situation because you don’t.

Why do you think a woman should be forced to go to 40 weeks with a non-viable fetus? Why do you think a woman whose health is endangered by her pregnancy should be forced to go through it until she delivers, if it might kill her?

Why do you think it's only non-viable babies that would be aborted in a late term abortion? Why are you suggesting late term abortion is only an option if it might kill her? That was the prior law. The current law says it only has to be endangering her health, including her mental health.

Answer my question and then I’ll answer yours.

Or are you afraid to answer mine?

I see you never came back to answer my question. What are you anfrsid of? You don’t have an answer, that’s what.

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Anonymous wrote:OP please give us statistics for how many abortions occur after viability and please tell us the reasons women seek out such abortions at that stage. Real life cases please, not just something you made up.

Until you can discuss these things there is no use taking with you about anything.

If it happens ONCE, that's enough.

Nope not until you tell us the reasons why women seek out abortions after about 20 weeks. Are you afraid to discuss them?

The child lacks organs that make that child viable... like a heart.

Or, the fetus has been diagnosed with a disease like the lethal form of Osteogenesis Imperfecta. The lethal form of OI means that the fetus breaks its bones simply from moving in the amniotic fluid (multiple fractures are evident on ultrasound), its lungs cannot develop, and its skull will be crushed in the birth canal. If born alive, the fetus will likely die shortly after birth.

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Anonymous wrote:Have you heard of pre-eclampsia? Pre-eclampsia and other hypertensive disorders of pregnancy account for 6.8% of maternal pregnancy-related deaths. The primary treatment if it is rapidly progressing to fatal crisis is delivery of the fetus, even if it has not reached viability.

But maybe it doesn't exist, if you haven't heard of it. That would be news to the CDC and a major relief to a heck of a lot of women.

Np. Yes, and in those cases the answer was delivery.

What happens when the crisis is at 20 weeks?

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Anonymous wrote:OP please give us statistics for how many abortions occur after viability and please tell us the reasons women seek out such abortions at that stage. Real life cases please, not just something you made up.

Until you can discuss these things there is no use taking with you about anything.

If it happens ONCE, that's enough.

Nope not until you tell us the reasons why women seek out abortions after about 20 weeks. Are you afraid to discuss them?

The child lacks organs that make that child viable... like a heart.

Or, the fetus has been diagnosed with a disease like the lethal form of Osteogenesis Imperfecta. The lethal form of OI means that the fetus breaks its bones simply from moving in the amniotic fluid (multiple fractures are evident on ultrasound), its lungs cannot develop, and its skull will be crushed in the birth canal. If born alive, the fetus will likely die shortly after birth.

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Shall we deprive Grammy sustanance because she's "likely" to die next year? Besides, you all know she'd want to be taken out of her misery if she could tell you.

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Hint: if the fetus is not viable, and the problem is a skyrocketing blood pressure that is putting the woman at risk for seizure and worse, putting her though induction, labor, and delivery of a nonviable fetus is not the medically best option.

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Anonymous wrote:OP please give us statistics for how many abortions occur after viability and please tell us the reasons women seek out such abortions at that stage. Real life cases please, not just something you made up.

Until you can discuss these things there is no use taking with you about anything.

If it happens ONCE, that's enough.

Nope not until you tell us the reasons why women seek out abortions after about 20 weeks. Are you afraid to discuss them?

The child lacks organs that make that child viable... like a heart.

Or, the fetus has been diagnosed with a disease like the lethal form of Osteogenesis Imperfecta. The lethal form of OI means that the fetus breaks its bones simply from moving in the amniotic fluid (multiple fractures are evident on ultrasound), its lungs cannot develop, and its skull will be crushed in the birth canal. If born alive, the fetus will likely die shortly after birth.

Shall we deprive Grammy sustanance because she's "likely" to die next year? Besides, you all know she'd want to be taken out of her misery if she could tell you.

Is Grammy going to kill me if we don’t pull the plug? Doubtful.

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Anonymous wrote:Wild. Let's see what happens when the first pregnant woman is murdered. Democrats rejected the Republicans attempt to strengthen the rights of the unborn in crimes.

It truly is playing God.

The pregnant woman and only the pregnant woman gets to decide whether to have an abortion.

If anyone else decides for her and harms her embryo/fetus, it’s a crime.

I don’t see the problem.

Yep. this.

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Anonymous wrote:Have you heard of pre-eclampsia? Pre-eclampsia and other hypertensive disorders of pregnancy account for 6.8% of maternal pregnancy-related deaths. The primary treatment if it is rapidly progressing to fatal crisis is delivery of the fetus, even if it has not reached viability.

But maybe it doesn't exist, if you haven't heard of it. That would be news to the CDC and a major relief to a heck of a lot of women.

Np. Yes, and in those cases the answer was delivery.

What happens when the crisis is at 20 weeks?

Or if a woman suffered near-fatal HELLP in a previous pregnancy and doesn't want to go through a second unintended pregnancy due to the possibility of it recurring?

There's also something called "mirror syndrome," where a fetus with hydrops (a condition that may result from any number of fetal abnormalities) gives the mother life-threatening pre-eclampsia. Here's one case study. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4659014/

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Anonymous wrote:Wild. Let's see what happens when the first pregnant woman is murdered. Democrats rejected the Republicans attempt to strengthen the rights of the unborn in crimes.

It truly is playing God.

The pregnant woman and only the pregnant woman gets to decide whether to have an abortion.

If anyone else decides for her and harms her embryo/fetus, it’s a crime.

I don’t see the problem.

Nope.

Can't eat your cake and have it, too. Sorry.

Actually you can.

Having sex with a woman isn't a crime. Unless of course, she declines your advances and you do it against her will. Then it's rape.

See how that works? The person who has the uterus or vagina or what have you gets to decide what does or does not happen to it (or whatever goes inside or stays inside).

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Anonymous wrote:OP please give us statistics for how many abortions occur after viability and please tell us the reasons women seek out such abortions at that stage. Real life cases please, not just something you made up.

Until you can discuss these things there is no use taking with you about anything.

If it happens ONCE, that's enough.

Do you feel similar anger and outrage about immigrant kids who die in government custody? Because if it happens ONCE, that's enough, right?

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Anonymous wrote:OP please give us statistics for how many abortions occur after viability and please tell us the reasons women seek out such abortions at that stage. Real life cases please, not just something you made up.

Until you can discuss these things there is no use taking with you about anything.

If it happens ONCE, that's enough.

Nope not until you tell us the reasons why women seek out abortions after about 20 weeks. Are you afraid to discuss them?

The child lacks organs that make that child viable... like a heart.

Or, the fetus has been diagnosed with a disease like the lethal form of Osteogenesis Imperfecta. The lethal form of OI means that the fetus breaks its bones simply from moving in the amniotic fluid (multiple fractures are evident on ultrasound), its lungs cannot develop, and its skull will be crushed in the birth canal. If born alive, the fetus will likely die shortly after birth.

Shall we deprive Grammy sustanance because she's "likely" to die next year? Besides, you all know she'd want to be taken out of her misery if she could tell you.

Is Grammy going to kill me if we don’t pull the plug? Doubtful.

At any rate, stopping hydration and nutrition is actually a common step towards the end of life.

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And yes, these cases aren't common. Neither is very late stage abortion -- but these problems exist, whether or not you have heard of them, unfortunately, ad that means they need to be accounted for in the law.

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Anonymous wrote:OP please give us statistics for how many abortions occur after viability and please tell us the reasons women seek out such abortions at that stage. Real life cases please, not just something you made up.

Until you can discuss these things there is no use taking with you about anything.

If it happens ONCE, that's enough.

Nope not until you tell us the reasons why women seek out abortions after about 20 weeks. Are you afraid to discuss them?

The child lacks organs that make that child viable... like a heart.

Or, the fetus has been diagnosed with a disease like the lethal form of Osteogenesis Imperfecta. The lethal form of OI means that the fetus breaks its bones simply from moving in the amniotic fluid (multiple fractures are evident on ultrasound), its lungs cannot develop, and its skull will be crushed in the birth canal. If born alive, the fetus will likely die shortly after birth.

Shall we deprive Grammy sustanance because she's "likely" to die next year? Besides, you all know she'd want to be taken out of her misery if she could tell you.

Is Grammy going to kill me if we don’t pull the plug? Doubtful.

If the cost of her care is drying up your savings, you might find yourself penniless. Who will support you then?

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Anonymous wrote:OP please give us statistics for how many abortions occur after viability and please tell us the reasons women seek out such abortions at that stage. Real life cases please, not just something you made up.

Until you can discuss these things there is no use taking with you about anything.

If it happens ONCE, that's enough.

Nope not until you tell us the reasons why women seek out abortions after about 20 weeks. Are you afraid to discuss them?

The child lacks organs that make that child viable... like a heart.

Or, the fetus has been diagnosed with a disease like the lethal form of Osteogenesis Imperfecta. The lethal form of OI means that the fetus breaks its bones simply from moving in the amniotic fluid (multiple fractures are evident on ultrasound), its lungs cannot develop, and its skull will be crushed in the birth canal. If born alive, the fetus will likely die shortly after birth.

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Shall we deprive Grammy sustanance because she's "likely" to die next year? Besides, you all know she'd want to be taken out of her misery if she could tell you.

So you're good with a fetus suffering breaking its bones over and over again and then, if born alive, not being able to breathe and dying shortly thereafter?