BOE Memer is proposing to study school boundary in MCPS

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MoCo doesn’t even keep up with the parks and community centers for older established neighborhoods, never mind for the new builds. Bethesda is just a paved over high rise mess with more high rises being built every day with features like ‘parking lots’ and ‘still more shopping’.


Virginia gets amazon and job growth, educational growth , and good public transportation. MoCo gets more housing and shopping, no tech jobs or tech community but lots of new laborers, high taxes, traffic and special interest groups all with their hands out - but no economy except higher and higher taxes.

It's so crowded, nobody goes there anymore.

Bethesda is BORING. The parking is terrible and you’re likely to get a ticket and it’s modtly about high end shopping and restaurants that turn over every few months because they can’t afford to stay.
MoCo keeps putting in more and more high rises because they think that that’s their meal ticket but there is no infrastructure - no place to walk the dog, where are the ball fields for social kickball or a soccer game for the young adults?, the ice rink is gone. They’ve pretty well Crystal City-ized it you might as well put a Costco and a Wal Mart in now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can MCPS not put a go$da$mned school on the SCHOOL PROPERTY on Brickyard road? That would alleviate a lot of crowding and busing kids everywhere. Do Lotomac kids HAVE to go to Pyle and Whitman in Bethesda? Can’t you name a new Potomac school Lil Whitman or Whitman II and just get on with life?
Talk about people being ready to spontaneously combust..

Because the schools near the Brickyard site are not the schools that are overcrowded....

Those kids are bused to Bethesda schools - which could be used for Kensington residents or an over crowding of BCC kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

MoCo doesn’t even keep up with the parks and community centers for older established neighborhoods, never mind for the new builds. Bethesda is just a paved over high rise mess with more high rises being built every day with features like ‘parking lots’ and ‘still more shopping’.


Virginia gets amazon and job growth, educational growth , and good public transportation. MoCo gets more housing and shopping, no tech jobs or tech community but lots of new laborers, high taxes, traffic and special interest groups all with their hands out - but no economy except higher and higher taxes.

It's so crowded, nobody goes there anymore.

Bethesda is BORING. The parking is terrible and you’re likely to get a ticket and it’s modtly about high end shopping and restaurants that turn over every few months because they can’t afford to stay.
MoCo keeps putting in more and more high rises because they think that that’s their meal ticket but there is no infrastructure - no place to walk the dog, where are the ball fields for social kickball or a soccer game for the young adults?, the ice rink is gone. They’ve pretty well Crystal City-ized it you might as well put a Costco and a Wal Mart in now.

Have you been to Bethesda recently? With the new garage, parking is easy. As for a ticket, you will only get one if you don't feed the meter. That's no different than a garage in Wheaton or anywhere else in the county.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"Then I guess the same would apply to any under capacity school. But as it is, BCC is under capacity while other HSs are waaaay over capacity."

You are being short-sighted. BCC is under capacity today, but is expected to be over capacity within the six-year CIP.

Not according to their projections. And sure, MCPS has been wrong in the past, but you yourself are using MCPS six year CIP projection so...

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/cipmasterpdfs/CIP20_Chap4_BCC.pdf

Given B-CC's northern boundary proximity to Woodward, it seems likely many of its students from that area would end up at Woodard. B-CC is adjacent to the boundaries of other overcrowded schools which will likely be folded into it. I know parents hate change, but this needs to happen.

The new capacity at Woodward is for WJ and the DCC.

That’s not accurate. Woodward will be populated by students living near it. That will be some combination is schools like WJ, Einstein, Wheaton and BCC. Since BCC is the only high-school inside the beltway it is by definition downcounty and it was originally part of the DCC so sure

Whitman is inside the beltway as well. Are you also adding them to the DCC?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can MCPS not put a go$da$mned school on the SCHOOL PROPERTY on Brickyard road? That would alleviate a lot of crowding and busing kids everywhere. Do Lotomac kids HAVE to go to Pyle and Whitman in Bethesda? Can’t you name a new Potomac school Lil Whitman or Whitman II and just get on with life?
Talk about people being ready to spontaneously combust..

Because the schools near the Brickyard site are not the schools that are overcrowded....

Those kids are bused to Bethesda schools - which could be used for Kensington residents or an over crowding of BCC kids.

No, they're not. The Brickyard site is within the Potomac ES / Hoover / Churchill zone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Then I guess the same would apply to any under capacity school. But as it is, BCC is under capacity while other HSs are waaaay over capacity."

You are being short-sighted. BCC is under capacity today, but is expected to be over capacity within the six-year CIP.

Not according to their projections. And sure, MCPS has been wrong in the past, but you yourself are using MCPS six year CIP projection so...

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/cipmasterpdfs/CIP20_Chap4_BCC.pdf

Given B-CC's northern boundary proximity to Woodward, it seems likely many of its students from that area would end up at Woodard. B-CC is adjacent to the boundaries of other overcrowded schools which will likely be folded into it. I know parents hate change, but this needs to happen.

The new capacity at Woodward is for WJ and the DCC.

That’s not accurate. Woodward will be populated by students living near it. That will be some combination is schools like WJ, Einstein, Wheaton and BCC. Since BCC is the only high-school inside the beltway it is by definition downcounty and it was originally part of the DCC so sure

The CIP makes no mention of Woodward in the B-CC chapter. Where is it mentioned? In the WJ and DCC chapters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Then I guess the same would apply to any under capacity school. But as it is, BCC is under capacity while other HSs are waaaay over capacity."

You are being short-sighted. BCC is under capacity today, but is expected to be over capacity within the six-year CIP.

Not according to their projections. And sure, MCPS has been wrong in the past, but you yourself are using MCPS six year CIP projection so...

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/cipmasterpdfs/CIP20_Chap4_BCC.pdf

Given B-CC's northern boundary proximity to Woodward, it seems likely many of its students from that area would end up at Woodard. B-CC is adjacent to the boundaries of other overcrowded schools which will likely be folded into it. I know parents hate change, but this needs to happen.

The new capacity at Woodward is for WJ and the DCC.

That’s not accurate. Woodward will be populated by students living near it. That will be some combination is schools like WJ, Einstein, Wheaton and BCC. Since BCC is the only high-school inside the beltway it is by definition downcounty and it was originally part of the DCC so sure

I know. I remember the 40+ page thread that discussed this extensively a few months ago.

[Anonymous]

When boe initiates a study, it already has policy change ideas in mind. The study will be used as the excuse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly -- I think they need to at least consider this option. Some schools are massively overcrowded while other are under-utilized. Why build new schools when they could potentially solve the problem with redistricting. Isn't that a more cost effective solution?

Where is MCPS building a new school where they could solve the problem with boundary changes? Could you provide one specific example, please?

I didn't mean just a brand new school building but all the additions, etc. New building in general.

Ok, where?

Look at the long range planning document -- many schools over the years have gotten additions including ours. (Diamond ES)

New high school in Crown, complete destruction of SVHS to make way for a new SVHS which will increase capacity by over 1,000 students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

MoCo doesn’t even keep up with the parks and community centers for older established neighborhoods, never mind for the new builds. Bethesda is just a paved over high rise mess with more high rises being built every day with features like ‘parking lots’ and ‘still more shopping’.


Virginia gets amazon and job growth, educational growth , and good public transportation. MoCo gets more housing and shopping, no tech jobs or tech community but lots of new laborers, high taxes, traffic and special interest groups all with their hands out - but no economy except higher and higher taxes.

It's so crowded, nobody goes there anymore.

Bethesda is BORING. The parking is terrible and you’re likely to get a ticket and it’s modtly about high end shopping and restaurants that turn over every few months because they can’t afford to stay.
MoCo keeps putting in more and more high rises because they think that that’s their meal ticket but there is no infrastructure - no place to walk the dog, where are the ball fields for social kickball or a soccer game for the young adults?, the ice rink is gone. They’ve pretty well Crystal City-ized it you might as well put a Costco and a Wal Mart in now.

Agree completely. It's depressing. And, it's what they are trying to do/doing to Rockville Town Center. And, at Pike and Rose (blech!) and at Twinbrook.

Like it or not, people move to the suburbs so they can have some SPACE and green areas. The urbanization of Montgomery County is going to make it a much less appealing place for families.

[Anonymous]

Some urban(ish) areas along Rockville Pike/Wisconsin Ave don't really change the character of the whole county. There are still many parks and green, open spaces all over MoCo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some urban(ish) areas along Rockville Pike/Wisconsin Ave don't really change the character of the whole county. There are still many parks and green, open spaces all over MoCo.

Potomac ? 20878 ? Onley ? Or is that “too far out”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly -- I think they need to at least consider this option. Some schools are massively overcrowded while other are under-utilized. Why build new schools when they could potentially solve the problem with redistricting. Isn't that a more cost effective solution?

Where is MCPS building a new school where they could solve the problem with boundary changes? Could you provide one specific example, please?

I didn't mean just a brand new school building but all the additions, etc. New building in general.

Ok, where?

Look at the long range planning document -- many schools over the years have gotten additions including ours. (Diamond ES)

New high school in Crown, complete destruction of SVHS to make way for a new SVHS which will increase capacity by over 1,000 students.

And what boundary changes would you have proposed, that would have provided the capacity without building a new high school at Crown and a bigger building at Seneca Valley High School?

Keeping in mind that both the high school at Crown and the bigger building at Seneca Valley High School are themselves based on boundary changes to provide capacity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

MoCo doesn’t even keep up with the parks and community centers for older established neighborhoods, never mind for the new builds. Bethesda is just a paved over high rise mess with more high rises being built every day with features like ‘parking lots’ and ‘still more shopping’.


Virginia gets amazon and job growth, educational growth , and good public transportation. MoCo gets more housing and shopping, no tech jobs or tech community but lots of new laborers, high taxes, traffic and special interest groups all with their hands out - but no economy except higher and higher taxes.

It's so crowded, nobody goes there anymore.

Bethesda is BORING. The parking is terrible and you’re likely to get a ticket and it’s modtly about high end shopping and restaurants that turn over every few months because they can’t afford to stay.
MoCo keeps putting in more and more high rises because they think that that’s their meal ticket but there is no infrastructure - no place to walk the dog, where are the ball fields for social kickball or a soccer game for the young adults?, the ice rink is gone. They’ve pretty well Crystal City-ized it you might as well put a Costco and a Wal Mart in now.

Agree completely. It's depressing. And, it's what they are trying to do/doing to Rockville Town Center. And, at Pike and Rose (blech!) and at Twinbrook.

Like it or not, people move to the suburbs so they can have some SPACE and green areas. The urbanization of Montgomery County is going to make it a much less appealing place for families.

Nobody wants to live in Potomac or Olney. I know this because I don't want to live in Potomac or Olney (blech!).

That's basically what you're saying, except that instead of Potomac, you're saying downtown Bethesda.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Some urban(ish) areas along Rockville Pike/Wisconsin Ave don't really change the character of the whole county. There are still many parks and green, open spaces all over MoCo.

Potomac ? 20878 ? Onley ? Or is that “too far out”

https://www.montgomeryparks.org/parks-trails/parks/

(Don't forget the urban(ish) areas in downtown Silver Spring, top PP!)