APS/SA boundary redrawing - meeting tonight
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Anonymous
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I think APS staff have a larger plan in mind that they're not revealing. The proposed boundaries tip their hand.
Adding Columbia Forest helps balance (obviously not completely) the addition of Barcroft Apts to Drew. Abingdon loses the Columbia Forest PUs, but is slated to have boundaries changed again in the next round. Barcroft loses Barcroft Apts, but will gain Gilliam Place. Barcroft is also slated to have boundaries changed in the second round. On net, Abingdon and Barcroft are losing PUs. Both schools are also, conveniently, adjacent to Carlin Springs' boundaries. All of this is setting up Carlin Springs to become the new Spanish Immersion. Barcroft and Abingdon, and likely Ashlawn, will pick up the Carlin Springs PUs in the next round. Carlin Springs becomes the second Immersion school. (Claremont stays immersion.) Drew's demographics are abysmal, but this process is setting up Ashlawn, Abingdon, Barcroft, and Carlin Springs for a better balance (potentially). (And Key and ASFS both become neighborhood schools.) |
Anonymous
How do you then explain the announced swap of Key and ASFS? |
Anonymous
DP here. They proposed it to piss everyone off and make them throw tantrums (see multiple threads) so they could then back away and move immersion away from both. |
Anonymous
Gotcha. FWIW, I’m 3 blocks from Fleet, so rezoning wouldn’t have personally affected me. Just supporting keeping my community together when we feel that that was promised to us. Although I see how your view that differently. |
Anonymous
I wouldn’t put it past them. When do they back away? During the next boundary process in Fall 2020? Isn’t one option to do the swap during the summer of 202? |
Anonymous
Is there some kind of schism is Nauck? Because I understood that the civic assn wanted Drew to be neighborhood and did NOT want Oakridge to take over, which is what everyone thought would happen a year or so ago. |
Anonymous
Yep, you all got what you felt you were promised (even though you weren’t), to keep yourselves together away from Drew. I dont live in the middle of any of this and even I could see straight through your rhetoric. If Drew had been some prize, it would have been like when they did the boundaries for Discovery and sure, the Nottingham people were bummed about splitting up the community, but none of the folks going to Discovery fought too hard because look where they were going. Some of you would have coped with Drew if it had a slide and was a little more white. And the whole claim of a promise is so ridiculous. What school gets a promise that none of its planning units will be moved in a full boundary redrawing? What is the precedent for that? It’s kind of embarrassing that you all kept waiving that out there as if the rest of us were stupid enough to believe anyone in a position to make those decisions would actually promise that. |
Anonymous
Swap planning is set for this spring. Part of the planning will be to decide if it happens in summer 2020 (before they redraw the rest of the boundaries) or summer 2021. If they don’t raise the possibility of both schools becoming neighborhood this spring, it won’t happen. |
Anonymous
Yes, I’m such a bad person for wanting to keep the planning units that give about 30% of Henry’s farms rate with Henry. Since you don’t live anywhere near here, consider going to a Nauck civic assn meeting and hearing what that community wanted. Not all communities want rich, white influx (not that they would have got that with those Henry planning units). I certainly don’t want rich NA planning units at fleet. |
Anonymous
Everyone knows that the parents and homeowners in the PUs south of the pike zoned to Henry were scared and angry about the possibility of going to Drew because of its demographics. "Keep Henry together" is just messaging because the truth is unpalatable and embarassing. Other schools are going to lose a chunk of students that have been going there for years, why should Henry be different? |
Anonymous
Henry's 30 percent farms rate comes from Arlington village and other multifamily housing north of the pike, in penrose. The PUs south of the pike are nearly entirely owned occupied, and SFH there go for over 600. I go through that neighborhood every day. I know exactly what I'm talking about. |
Anonymous
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Can someone explain how they arrived at their fr/l calculations for the presentation? Because maybe this isn't so bad for Drew after all. If the calculated fr/l numbers are much higher than the current actual numbers, what can Drew expect? For instance, here are the actual 2017 fr/l percentages by school vs. the calculated % in the presentation:
Abingdon: 47.16% vs. 52% Barcroft: 59.67% vs. 62% Henry: 31.59% vs. 29% Hoffman Boston: 49.16% vs. 70% Oakridge: 25.28% vs. 28% Randolph: 73.67% vs. 92% Do if Drew is calculated to be 85%, what is the actual? Seems like it, too, would be significantly lower? Maybe more like 65%? |
Anonymous
| 65% doesn’t get umc parents on board. Look at Barcroft. 50% and below. You have to go under 50 for ( some) parents to even consider it. |
Anonymous
Hard to say, but I doubt it'll drop more han 10 points if it does. Hoffman's rate is being cut in half because it's sending a lot of poor kids in Nauck back to Drew, for example, not because of the vagaries of resident vs enrolled students. Randolph appears to be a distinct case; the difference there may be because it sends Spanish speaking kids who are disadvantaged to claremont. The other schools on your list barely change. So I'd say Drew probably won't change much. |
Anonymous
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Randolph zone definitely sends kids to immersion. That’s why they are typically down 20 points. So that school is 70% instead of 90%. APS might consider that a job well done, but families in Douglas Park have never been convinced to send their kids in meaningful numbers.
Besides... that 92% tells you it’s a complete lost cost. So maybe that’s the south Arlington answer. Just have 2-3 completely poor schools and allow transfer out. |