MCPS curriculum RFP-Second Attempt

[Anonymous]

DP. How science and social studies are taught under 2.0 isn't really relevant. What's much more important is how MCPS will handle these subjects when they transition to a new curriculum. These subjects were folded into 2.0 and the RFP makes no mention of them, so how MCPS will teach them moving forward really remains an open question.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Please share this with any good curriculum providers
http://procurement.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/home/Bid_Record/1638

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thx, I read the RFP file (last one listed) and am familiar with legal docs.
no mention of science or social studies in either ELA or math requirements or preferences. Guess MCPS will whip that up?
mentioned 45-60 minutes of daily ELA and of daily Math so that frees up 60 minutes versus current C2.0. Wonder what MCSP will do with that time? More gym, A day for science, B day for social studies?
no mention of physical textbooks or work books, just digital stuff for teachers, parents, students.

Yeah. I wonder if that’s an attempt to stack the decks for Discovery Education which has a lot of online content, as opposed to a Singapore math type curriculum which is traditional materials. Also, there’s a section there where the curriculum provided has to describe how their curriculum matches up to MCPS’s framework that seems tailor made for an ex-McPS employee to write

This is Discovery's team, which hasn't been updated with ELA.
https://www.discoveryeducation.com/who-we-are/meet-the-curriculum-team/

Remember, however, that they did snatch Jim Fliakas, who was the ELA supervisor for MCPS. So they have their bases covered.

not sure if they'd work with MCPS again after what happened - or if they'd move on to another larger system

But they do have all the core contents covered.

They'd be smart to focus on the arts next.

[Anonymous]

Even if they went with Discovery, they’re only replacing ELA and Math. Nothing else. So there’s no indication they’d utilize science or social studies materials from Discovery.

[Anonymous]

I don't care about Discovery Ed's nonexistent product they might be whipping together.

MCPS has BTDT and failed in a spectacular fashion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please share this with any good curriculum providers
http://procurement.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/home/Bid_Record/1638

+1

thx, I read the RFP file (last one listed) and am familiar with legal docs.
no mention of science or social studies in either ELA or math requirements or preferences. Guess MCPS will whip that up?
mentioned 45-60 minutes of daily ELA and of daily Math so that frees up 60 minutes versus current C2.0. Wonder what MCSP will do with that time? More gym, A day for science, B day for social studies?
no mention of physical textbooks or work books, just digital stuff for teachers, parents, students.

Yeah. I wonder if that’s an attempt to stack the decks for Discovery Education which has a lot of online content, as opposed to a Singapore math type curriculum which is traditional materials. Also, there’s a section there where the curriculum provided has to describe how their curriculum matches up to MCPS’s framework that seems tailor made for an ex-McPS employee to write

This is Discovery's team, which hasn't been updated with ELA.
https://www.discoveryeducation.com/who-we-are/meet-the-curriculum-team/

Remember, however, that they did snatch Jim Fliakas, who was the ELA supervisor for MCPS. So they have their bases covered.

not sure if they'd work with MCPS again after what happened - or if they'd move on to another larger system

But they do have all the core contents covered.

They'd be smart to focus on the arts next.

Huh? MCPS is the 8th largest system in the country. There aren't many larger systems and most of them have selected their curricula.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please share this with any good curriculum providers
http://procurement.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/home/Bid_Record/1638

+1

thx, I read the RFP file (last one listed) and am familiar with legal docs.
no mention of science or social studies in either ELA or math requirements or preferences. Guess MCPS will whip that up?
mentioned 45-60 minutes of daily ELA and of daily Math so that frees up 60 minutes versus current C2.0. Wonder what MCSP will do with that time? More gym, A day for science, B day for social studies?
no mention of physical textbooks or work books, just digital stuff for teachers, parents, students.

science and social studies were never in scope of the RFP. It has always been ELA and math..

Science is not in the scope because MCPS adopted a new science curriculum this year. We now follow the NGSS standards same as VA publics. I wish all the mass hysteria would stop about science not being taught or being weak in MCPS. The new science curriculum is by National Geographic and does come with student textbooks, although students cannot write in them or take them home. Students, however, will have an electronic copy of the textbook. While I would prefer a hard copy textbook I also realize that MCPS would rather save money to hire aides and additional teachers rather than spend each year re-purchasing student workbooks which are not cheap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please share this with any good curriculum providers
http://procurement.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/home/Bid_Record/1638

+1

thx, I read the RFP file (last one listed) and am familiar with legal docs.
no mention of science or social studies in either ELA or math requirements or preferences. Guess MCPS will whip that up?
mentioned 45-60 minutes of daily ELA and of daily Math so that frees up 60 minutes versus current C2.0. Wonder what MCSP will do with that time? More gym, A day for science, B day for social studies?
no mention of physical textbooks or work books, just digital stuff for teachers, parents, students.

science and social studies were never in scope of the RFP. It has always been ELA and math..

Science is not in the scope because MCPS adopted a new science curriculum this year. We now follow the NGSS standards same as VA publics. I wish all the mass hysteria would stop about science not being taught or being weak in MCPS. The new science curriculum is by National Geographic and does come with student textbooks, although students cannot write in them or take them home. Students, however, will have an electronic copy of the textbook. While I would prefer a hard copy textbook I also realize that MCPS would rather save money to hire aides and additional teachers rather than spend each year re-purchasing student workbooks which are not cheap.

Forgot to mention that MCPS has not yet updated its website to reflect the new science curriculum

[Anonymous]

What about social studies?

[Anonymous]

MCPS is going to roll that out after the new curriculum for math and ELA. One has to remember that teachers can’t plan adequately or teache adequately with too many new materials. Science is new this year, next year will be new curriculum for ELA/Math and the following year we will follow the NCSS (which by the way many companies and states are still processing)

For example, Wisconsin public schools just adopted a curriculum to fit the new push for NCSS this year. https://dpi.wi.gov/social-studies/standards

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MCPS is going to roll that out after the new curriculum for math and ELA. One has to remember that teachers can’t plan adequately or teache adequately with too many new materials. Science is new this year, next year will be new curriculum for ELA/Math and the following year we will follow the NCSS (which by the way many companies and states are still processing)

For example, Wisconsin public schools just adopted a curriculum to fit the new push for NCSS this year. https://dpi.wi.gov/social-studies/standards

How do you know this? I’m not doubting you, just curious.

Also, how will kids learn social studies until the new curriculum comes out? Will it be via 2.0 materials?

[Anonymous]

I am a current MCPS employee, the 2.0 social studies will remain in effect until the changes happen as mentioned above.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a current MCPS employee, the 2.0 social studies will remain in effect until the changes happen as mentioned above.

And why is none of this explained on the MCPS website? It says nothing about science or social studies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a current MCPS employee, the 2.0 social studies will remain in effect until the changes happen as mentioned above.

And why is none of this explained on the MCPS website? It says nothing about science or social studies.

Here is the link to the science curriculum on the MCPS website:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/science/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a current MCPS employee, the 2.0 social studies will remain in effect until the changes happen as mentioned above.

And why is none of this explained on the MCPS website? It says nothing about science or social studies.

Here is the link to the science curriculum on the MCPS website:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/science/

All that does is eventually link back to the 2.0 site if you try to find specifics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please share this with any good curriculum providers
http://procurement.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/home/Bid_Record/1638

+1

thx, I read the RFP file (last one listed) and am familiar with legal docs.
no mention of science or social studies in either ELA or math requirements or preferences. Guess MCPS will whip that up?
mentioned 45-60 minutes of daily ELA and of daily Math so that frees up 60 minutes versus current C2.0. Wonder what MCSP will do with that time? More gym, A day for science, B day for social studies?
no mention of physical textbooks or work books, just digital stuff for teachers, parents, students.

Yeah. I wonder if that’s an attempt to stack the decks for Discovery Education which has a lot of online content, as opposed to a Singapore math type curriculum which is traditional materials. Also, there’s a section there where the curriculum provided has to describe how their curriculum matches up to MCPS’s framework that seems tailor made for an ex-McPS employee to write

This is Discovery's team, which hasn't been updated with ELA.
https://www.discoveryeducation.com/who-we-are/meet-the-curriculum-team/

Remember, however, that they did snatch Jim Fliakas, who was the ELA supervisor for MCPS. So they have their bases covered.

not sure if they'd work with MCPS again after what happened - or if they'd move on to another larger system

But they do have all the core contents covered.

They'd be smart to focus on the arts next.

Huh? MCPS is the 8th largest system in the country. There aren't many larger systems and most of them have selected their curricula.

oh no, novice

How long do you think systems - under our "newest" accountability mandates - actually stick to a curriculum framework?

I recently left MCPS for a smaller system. In my 20+ years, I've seen . . .
- complete autonomy (minus any standards) to
- Core Learning Goals (CLGs - anyone remember those?) with partially standardized guides to
- CCSS and standardized guides.

Courses, particularly in science, changed all the time to reflect the latest benchmarks.

There's ALWAYS a larger system making changes. MCPS is NOT the end all in terms of educational companies profiting off children. There are plenty of other larger systems that highlight the achievement gap.